Jelani Eddington & Rob Richards at Pasadena Civic Auditorium

[Mattegsels]

Saugeil!

[DLLMWL]

Magnificent playing by both organists. Although you can hear much more power from the Moller, the idea of having two separate instruments on the same stage is great. They compliment each other beautifully. Are there more pieces by this duo?

[TwoTigers04]

Take me out to the ball game, take me out to the .... whoops...sorry....

[theonejrs]

I guess I'm among the 1% that can tell these two organs apart then. The walker lacks the secondary harmonics of the Moller. These are defined as the mix in timbres of the different pipes that are being played, and the beat frequencies they create. Perfect tune is all but impossible for any Theater organ, and the tuning can and does change depending on Temperature, Humidity and barometric Pressure. It's what gives a true theater organ a unique sound that electronics just can't match!

[steamrocks]

@theonejrs It's not just secondary harmonics, and those HAVE to be tough to pick out on a Youtube video! The massing and trem effects are different on the windblown Moller. A closer to reality sound could be created with sampled trems. One thing I noticed on the Moller that had to be a throwback from its British days was the fast trem on the solo Tuba. Brits love their trems fast. I understand there was a WurliTzer Tibia transplant into the Moller. It sure shows.

[3dwurli]

@steamrocks Brits love there trems useable, and not to sound miserable! Theres a limit on how fast, they arent all that fast!

[kingjames8283]

Wow Carl, your right. You can't tell the different between the Mollers air driven pipes and the Walkers digital speaker system array. It sounds like one instrument. Thanks for asking me to watch this as I'm impressed with Walkers digital technology, it's incredibly accurate.

[bigsilverdaddy58]

Two incredible organists displaying incredible music!!!!

Fantastic!!! Lets do it again!!!!

[dmcoles88]

Six minutes and forty eight seconds of absolute perfection !

[EstateManor]

We have a Moller theatre organ here in Oklahoma at Oklahoma U. Hope great things for it and the artform of theatre pipe organ. So many classical organists are afraid to admit their appreciation of the theatre organ. Such attitudes are passe indeed! The theatre organ is of the highest calibre and has always been so. Music is political like all things...but it is just ignorant not to be impressed with such excellence as above!

[carlosroberto366]

2:00 up to 3:05 best part for me, got no words to describe how these wonderful chords match

[VinnieSutra]

Outstanding

[DeserTBoB93535]

I was there for the premier of the Moller. A less than optimal installation at first, but things improved as time went on. The Foort Moller has NO equal...not the SF or Atlanta Foxes (been there, done that). I heard Lyn Larsen do "Slaughter" back then and it almost blew me out of the balcony! Just don't get on the tuning crew for this one...yoikes!

[TexasJim1956]

I love this video. I watch often. These two artist are amazing individuals but when paired together they become an awesome team.

[wa1ufo]

Jelani is awesome!!

[9fq6z]

ny1news........ what rot you talk.........stupidly immature competitive crap............ you have missed the point of what you have watched ...... we all know what CC can technically do .........but totally without heart!

[Alleghenymike]

Whoa Fun!

[bombarde1701]

They did a recording together called, "American Classics-Pipe Organ Extravaganza VIII" at the Rialto Square Theatre. A great 2CD set! The Barton and the Walker Organ sound great!

[blainegale]

Proof positive that the 5-manual Walker Unit Orchestra Rob Richards is playing matches the true pipes Jelani Eddington is playing. The Walker's Concert Flute has an excellent pipe-like chiff that is heard here in a quiet solo passage. Both these men need to make a CD on the 3m23r Wurlitzer in Peery's Egyptian Theater in Ogden. They both say it's among the top 10 they have ever played. Jelani and Chris were at the Egyptian with Jelani's Grieg's Piano Concerto last Feb 7th. WOW!

[KE5RHD]

I'm trying to decide if it would be feasible to bring in a digital theatre organ to our new Warren Theater in Moore, Ok for a silent movie night. If you are not familiar with Warren they built a multiscreen megaplex designed on an Egyptian 1920's movie palace. Its complete with ushers wearing suits and caps. The foyer to the bathrooms has a working fireplace. The curtains go up in all 14 theatres. The middle theatres have a balcony. You walk in and believe you have been time transported.

[CRACKintheMOON]

REALLY? WOW! That's worth visiting Moore, OK. That would make a fortune in the right areas. Are you an organist?

[acoustics101]

Wow!! This blows me away!! Great performance guys!

[klavier1us]

As someone who has heard high quality electronic & Pipe Organs played live by people like George Wright, Virgil Fox and most between, for decades- don't sell Electronics short the best of the bunch have always been top drawer. These days the Digitals are better than ever. Check CD's of the Allen Theatre vs identical Pipe works made by George Wright, listen to the same cuts side by side. At least 99% of people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Excellent work by Jelani & Rob!

[ny1news]

nice

but if it was cameron carpenter he would play all those parts by himself

[daithom14]

The USA has been much better at preserving these instruments than the UK. Sod Cool Britannia would like to join the culturally/nostalgically sophisticated!

[Marshall7302]

are both of these consoles digital? Or is one one a real organ? And i like Jonas Nordwalls version of this by himself on the Wurlitzer at the Mesa Arizona "Organ Stop Pizza" organ. Wich is a digital console to a elaborate collection of new and old pipes. Good tune. PS im guessing that Rob is on the black console, cuz i know hes a Walker organ rep. Im just wondering about the moller.

[Gillyyorkie]

This is Awesome Theatre organ ROCKS! Always will , and Jelani Eddington is a wizz he's one of the best organists I ever heard

[itswagon]

The Moller is a Pipe Organ, the Walker is a digital Theatre Organ. Both Magnificent instruments in anyone's book.

[Gillyyorkie]

I would welcome either in my lounge lol I wish I could have one like  it

[TroiBaccaCsi96]

Oh that was great. I would have loved to seen both of those organs being played. The only time I have heard "Slaughter On Tenth Avenue" is a record recording of George Wright performing it on a Wurlitzer Organ. I hope one day to see and hear a Wurlitzer Pipe Organ performance. Nice video. Thanks for sharing. Laura

[jonspark]

This Moller was installed in the Grand theatre in llandudno between 1938 & 1941.

great to see it still going. fantastic instrument

[acchos]

it wasnt that Moller, that was foorts touring organ, it wasnt installed anywhere in the U.S till the 1970`s

[jonspark]

LLandudno in north wales! It was lent to the BBC in 1938 and they installed it in the Grand theatre for broadcasting during the war. BBC purchased it in 1941 and was installed in Studios in London. It was then sold in the early 60's to NRU dutch Radio Union. It finally went to america in 1971, first to San Diego then in 1979 here at Pasadena

[acchos]

AAAAH,now i see.

[bigcity233]

Truly amazing organists!!  This is an awesome selection of music for theater organ!!

[octave4]

Did any of you folks know about the big Moller in the Shriners Tampple in Los Angeles? It went through a "Rebuild" in the early 1990's. Quite an organ.

[kinura4]

Easy, Rob Richards owns the Walker. It is his touring organ.

[Fozzymaple]

How did they decide who got to play the Moeller and who was to play the Walker?

[SuperElBorba]

The Foort Moller was the first instrument that I got to both play regularly, and work on.(I worked as an apprentice tech for Organ Power Productions when I was 16-18) It always makes me a bit teary to hear how great she sounds in her new home.

[JonasClark]

@SuperElBorba I'm hunting for details on all former pipe organ pizza parlors. Could you possibly send me a PM, and perhaps you'd know some concrete details on the Organ Power Pizza restaurants?

[masterwitchphd]

GOT ANYMORE LIKE THIS?

[diaphone32]

Such a great tonal quality of both these organs plus 2 very talented organists can only equal something like this.Thanks Orgelmonster this is a truly amazing organ video.one of the best

[etbuk]

The mMoller is black?

[orgelmonster]

The Moller is the white console. The Walker digital organ is the black console.

[allexi07]

by far an excellent upload, these two Meastro's have done much in the preservation and education of the theatre organ. If I am not mistaken the Walker is a 5manual 104 rank, supposedly the largest digital TO in the world today. Thanks for sharing

[octave4]

Allex - Electronic organs cannot have "Ranks" they have no pipes at all. Ranks are a somplete set of pipes 61 for manuals and 32 for Pedals. You might say this organ has 104 "Rows" (Of chips lined up on PC boards) but certainly ot ranks.

An electronic can bnot have the sympathetic vibration of pipes - nver sound same.

[kinura4]

You are soooo right. There is a "presense" that simply cannot be reproduced electronicaly.

[octave4]

Kinura - After the Pasadena show I was curious about Rogers and went to their site. Having gone through their "Time Line" one would imagine that they had invented the pipe organ as well.

I suppose the real objection to their system is the stop knob system that never moves -Instead ON or OFF is indicated by lighted heads. Of for a computer for the movies but quite distracting for the audience.

[kinura4]

Octave. I have no objection to electronic organs. I have one. The only drawback to pipe organs is the initial cost, and then the upkeep. I have been part of reconstruction of two pipe organs. One, a 3/19 that our club recently installed in the Mckinney performing Arts Center in Mckinney, Texas.

[octave4]

3-19 I have to ake some assumptions. It is a Theater style organ and you are having a ball with it. Good Luck, Well done. I build them and have built the largest organ in Asia 4M, 104S, 5 division. 100 Registers, 119 Ranks 6820 pipes. They are expensice and do require tuning regularly. But they do last for years if cared for. Yes Releather every 50 or so. That is Shrine Auditorium in LA 4M 80+ stops.

[kinura4]

Octave4. My mistake on the organ in Texas. I was thinking of the organ I used to play in the Akron Civic Theatre. It was a 319 Wurlitzer. The one in McKinney Texas is a 317, also a Wurlitzer. The one in Akron was only a 313 back in the "50,s) when I played on it.

[steamrocks]

@kinura4 Having owned (and built) Pipe organs, Electronic (analog) organs and VirTual Theater Organs, in my opinion there is one more drawback to pipes..for some of us. Theater pipe organs need space for tone to mix and develop. Listen to the best sounding theater organs in the chambers, and they sound awful. In most homes, it is like listening to the organ right outside the chamber, cuz that's where you are. VirTuals take away the need for all that mixing space, though they still need some.

[sina4]

Hmm Are you implying that pipes exhibit sympathetic vibration which -can be heard- by humans? OK. I believe the sound differences you hear in a pipe organ are due to the size of the resonators, vs the size of wee speakers in an electronic instruments.

[octave4]

Surely you have "Hummed" at a piano with dampers off. Sstrings will reply. Organ pipes are resonating vessels & respond to vibrations in it's harmonic series. You can Humm & you will hear it. Organs have many pipes each makes a sound. Speakers are in one place. Pipes are from 16' to 3/8" Only Reeds have resonators. Pitch of pipe is based on contained volume of air.

[danthemadhatter]

Walker Digital is not bound by the acoustic limitations of pipes and sounds better than real pipes. Real pipes, although are cleaner in sound than most digital instruments, still have comb filtering, phase canceling and distortions. It's a myth to think that since they are real that they are above the laws of acoustic science. It is still a matter of tone coming from one spot, activating the room, then hitting your ears. Walker can get closer to perfect then pipes.

[octave4]

INTERESTING - tONE COMING FROM ONE SPOT. oNLY ONE PIPE IS IN ONE SPOT. wHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER 60. PIPES OBEY ACOUSTIC LAWS. THAT IS WHAT MAKES THEM SOUND AS THEY DO. PIPES CANNOT HAVE DISTORTIONS NOR PHASE CANCELING. SPEAKERS COME FROM 1 SPOT ACTIVATE THE ROOM & HIT THE EARS. SPEAKERS ARE A SOUND SOURCE, YOU CANNOT GET CLOSER TO THE SOUND OF A PIPE THAN THE SOUND OF A PIPE. THAT IS "PERFECT" WITHOUT ANYTHING IN BETWEEN. A WALKER INTERPRETS THE SOUND OF A REAL PIPE & INTRODUCES DISTORTION.

[danthemadhatter]

No need to shout. By one spot, I mean the chamber. And as soon as the sound come out of a pipe, speaker, or anything else that oscillates, the waves begin coupling, cancelling, reflecting, standing waves, etc.(distortion), that is fact. That is what gives the pipe organ the chorusing effect. With digital, you can compensate for some of the deconstructive interference before the tone is even produced. Your Comments?

[octave4]

caplock. What about free standing organs? Chambers have wide fronts. Yes waves couple, the reason for mutations & Mixtures. So by this analogy we should replace orchestras with Walkers, definitely pianos, harps and stringed instruments. You don't seem to understand that the "Faults" are what make the organ sound. It is the sound in the room that counts not what is in the chambers or what comes out. Not all organs are in chambers. Digitals are still imitations that cannot be better than original

[danthemadhatter]

I totally agree that the imperfections are what makes it sound like it does, the same reason a piano sounds like a piece of wood. But we learn to enjoy that sound since birth as listeners to 12 tone music. I stand my ground is because Organs Like Rodgers have little more than bass and treble as their voicing pallete. Walker has over 30 parameters to adjust the sound and can get into the cracks to make adjustments that can compensate for some of the unwanted imperfections, making a super organ.

[octave4]

A Pipe Organ makes sound by blowing wind through windways in flue pipes and through oscillating valves in Reed pipes. All electronic roagn are mere imitations of a real pipe organ. they cannot improve on the original any more than they can replace an orchestra.

If you want to Super Organ go to Wanamakers or First Congregationalor Crystal Cathedral. If you want canned music play a walker. Those parameters are to more closely imitate the real thing, not correct for natural sound. End discussion.

[ReapearingDoubleChin]

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[HammondB200]

caps

[ny1news]

wtf who cares

[solartron]

@octave4: you're so right... but they can't understand you...

[sheepfokker1]

I heard Jelani at Casa Loma, Toronto on the Wurlitzer pipe organ. This organ is a bunch bigger!

[acoustics101]

Wow!! Were both of these consoles controlling the same instrument? Reginald Foort's touring Moller sounds outstanding! You don't see something like this everyday!

[orgelmonster]

Thanks.  The Moller is the pipe organ. The black console is a Walker digital theatre organ, so there are actually two consoles playing two different instruments.

[acoustics101]

The Walker digital is quite impressive then, along with the Moller. I once heard Virgil Fox at the Ohio Theatre alternate between the Mighty Morton and his Rodgers Royal V. Both were quite impressive.

[hopeyjo]

A great arrangement for two organs! Such duets are often just thrown together...this was obviously arranged and practised. Thanks for the video!

[Organgrinder010]

Outstanding.

[ampicob]

Extraordinary performances - Richard Rodgers would be very pleased I think.

[jjonasjonas]

Superb quality video, plus two outstanding organists playing the King of instruments. Great entertainment!

[Gillyyorkie]

you can say that again I'm in UK and have yet to visit USA But there are some wonderful instruments there I see andsome even more wonderfup performers . If you get any new videos I'd be glad to recieve them regards Gilly Plymouth

England x

[acchos]

It was in our local theatre here in Scotland for a coupel of days, long before my time though.

[acchos]

Was this reginald Foorts touring Moller?

[orgelmonster]

Yes it was. Now permanently installed at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium.

[Kiddman32]

Unbelievable!!

[Dojora4]

Very dissapointed that I missed this!