yes. keep in mind that the conversion to CMYK will occur when you export your indesign document to PDF. this will preserve your indesign document, with RGB images, for other forms of media such as digital magazines and other interactive apps. the CMYK images will be inside your PDF that is ready for prepress. does this answer your concern?
My photos are in RGB, should I finish everything in indesign (100 pages) then go back and do this at the end? thank you.. Converting to cmyk in photoshot loses a bit of color so I look forward to trying this
If any one can answer this please do: I do a lot of artwork and printing in CS4 and I do all my work in RGB for vividness... here is my question: When I mode shift to CMYK in Adobe it always looks like crap and prints like crap... BUT when I leave it in RGB and take it to the printing company, (and it is obviously a CMYK printer) the PRINTED result looks very close to my RGB!!! So they obviously have a more sophisticated converter...where can I find this because adobe's is obviously inferior!
@bbodish Never use 'Mode' change to convert your images to CMYK. You will obtain the best color re-mapping by using 'Convert to Profile'. There is no generic CMYK color space and CMYK is a device dependent color space - meaning each paper/ink/device will have its own unique CMYK color gamut. Your printer is converting to CMYK based on their profiles that they have built using a specific paper/ink/press configuration. It is best practice to work in RGB and convert to the proper CMYK profile last.
@bbodish Depending on your print job specs, your printer will either use SWOP or GRACoL print specifications. If you're printing on a sheetfed press, hopefully your printer will print to the GRACoL specification as SWOP is geared toward heatset web printing.
@hidefcolor - Where can I find "convert to profile"? I followed this video and my pics looks a bit blurry and dull, so I'm planning to print on my home computer which uses 4 inks to see if it looks dull if so.. I need to convert 200 images to CMYK and attempt to keep the quality. The printer who will be making the book is sheet fed. Any advice? should I just leave it in RGB to the printer rather than send crap CMYK and hope their printer fixes it? I will be getting a sample before final
@pjbialas 'convert to profile' is near the bottom of the 'edit' menu in Photoshop. consult with your printer on what CMYK color profile they print to. if they do not have their own CMYK profile, you might want to reconsider them. most printers will print to the SWOP CMYK color profile. however, SWOP is a small gamut compared to other profiles. it can be quite tricky dealing with profiles, but it is a science and good science is repeatable and expectations are met. does this help you?
@hidefcolor ... My (US)printer does not have a CMYK profile, they said to check the dpi after conversion then if over 300 send them a few pics and they will review them. Any reasonably priced printers you can recommend? photography book 150 pages hardcover 500-1000 copies? My mom has connections in China so I am getting a quote from a reliable source there as well, but as you can imagine there is a bit of guesswork with translation and the middleman is not a printer...
@pjbialas i hope they didn't use the term 'dpi'! yes, i can help you. please email me directly rick(at)hidefcolor(dot)com with complete specs for your book. are you looking for hardcover smyth-sewn book?
@BigBPublishing You must not have selected "preserve numbers'" under color conversion menu. See 2:42 into video. Preserve numbers will not separate 'native' colors that were created in InDesign, such as black type. Write me back if you have any other challenges with this color workflow...
@hidefcolor Thanks for your quick reply but I did select "preserve numbers" and all your other steps. I then tried convert to destination without preserving numbers with US Web Coat and it succeeded in isolating most of the black on to one plate. I'm checking w/ the printer now to see if it worked. If it did this is one heck of a great solution.
@BigBPublishing Each CMYK color profile is compiled with different values of gray component replacement (GCR). GCR will determine how much black is used in neutral/gray areas of your page, including type. Not seeing your PDF file it's hard for me to determine what the problem is that you have. Make sure you look in color picker to determine what the 'source' color is of these objects that you can't get onto the black plate by themselves. It seems as if these objects are in RGB possibly...
@marizmendi1656 Thanks for the nice comment on the RGB to CMYK video. Share it with your friends and save them some time! Are there any other topics you would like to see discussed? Thanks!
@hidefcolor Yes, with this method you can not have much control on how the RGB to CMYK conversion was made on a photo, (in this case, the ballon) I mean, may be you need the photo with no black at all, or less Cyan, or less magenta, etc, so how to handle with this situation? Thanks for any response
@marizmendi1656 i'm not exactly sure I understand your question. The takeaway is that if you run a color managed workflow (calibrated monitor, tagged RGB images) you can truly rely on a WYSIWYG workflow. Keep in mind that when setting 'conversion' tab in PDF, you are converting all color - placed RGB, spot colors, etc - into the printing condition that is selected by the output profile. Most designers I've spoken to do not care about how the images are converted to CMYK as long as color matches.
The magazine complain that my ad is in RGB collor. Then I found your video. It is very helpful but I can't check the option "All Spots to Process" . It is in light gray. I just can check "Use Standard Lab Value for Spot" (Ink Manage option). Do you know why can't I do it? Thank you so much!
This was a great saver. I had to output a 1000 image catalog and most images where RGB. doing them one by one in photoshop was my last option. you've saved me quite a few hours (or days)
@Evolveweb thanks for the comment. i'm very pleased i was happy to save you so much time in not having to convert your images to cmyk. let me know what types of video tutorials you would like to see in the future...thanks!
This has helped me so much! I've just started working as a graphic designer but don't have any formal qualifications. I have a deadline in an hour for a newspaper and this has helped me make the deadline. =)
This is a great tip...but for some reason when I follow the instructions I get a grayed out Ink Manager Button so it kind of dead ends me from following your protocol.
thank u for sharing this information. it is a realy important issue and most people are not aware to that.
shayherstyler 1 week ago
really usefull!Thank you!
Tigermask75 2 months ago
@Tigermask75 thanks for the comment. don't forget to share the video with your friends!
hidefcolor 2 months ago
yes. keep in mind that the conversion to CMYK will occur when you export your indesign document to PDF. this will preserve your indesign document, with RGB images, for other forms of media such as digital magazines and other interactive apps. the CMYK images will be inside your PDF that is ready for prepress. does this answer your concern?
hidefcolor 2 months ago
My photos are in RGB, should I finish everything in indesign (100 pages) then go back and do this at the end? thank you.. Converting to cmyk in photoshot loses a bit of color so I look forward to trying this
pjbialas 2 months ago
If any one can answer this please do: I do a lot of artwork and printing in CS4 and I do all my work in RGB for vividness... here is my question: When I mode shift to CMYK in Adobe it always looks like crap and prints like crap... BUT when I leave it in RGB and take it to the printing company, (and it is obviously a CMYK printer) the PRINTED result looks very close to my RGB!!! So they obviously have a more sophisticated converter...where can I find this because adobe's is obviously inferior!
bbodish 3 months ago
@bbodish Never use 'Mode' change to convert your images to CMYK. You will obtain the best color re-mapping by using 'Convert to Profile'. There is no generic CMYK color space and CMYK is a device dependent color space - meaning each paper/ink/device will have its own unique CMYK color gamut. Your printer is converting to CMYK based on their profiles that they have built using a specific paper/ink/press configuration. It is best practice to work in RGB and convert to the proper CMYK profile last.
hidefcolor 3 months ago
@bbodish Depending on your print job specs, your printer will either use SWOP or GRACoL print specifications. If you're printing on a sheetfed press, hopefully your printer will print to the GRACoL specification as SWOP is geared toward heatset web printing.
Let me know if you need further information....
hidefcolor 3 months ago
@hidefcolor - Where can I find "convert to profile"? I followed this video and my pics looks a bit blurry and dull, so I'm planning to print on my home computer which uses 4 inks to see if it looks dull if so.. I need to convert 200 images to CMYK and attempt to keep the quality. The printer who will be making the book is sheet fed. Any advice? should I just leave it in RGB to the printer rather than send crap CMYK and hope their printer fixes it? I will be getting a sample before final
pjbialas 2 months ago
@pjbialas 'convert to profile' is near the bottom of the 'edit' menu in Photoshop. consult with your printer on what CMYK color profile they print to. if they do not have their own CMYK profile, you might want to reconsider them. most printers will print to the SWOP CMYK color profile. however, SWOP is a small gamut compared to other profiles. it can be quite tricky dealing with profiles, but it is a science and good science is repeatable and expectations are met. does this help you?
hidefcolor 2 months ago
@hidefcolor ... My (US)printer does not have a CMYK profile, they said to check the dpi after conversion then if over 300 send them a few pics and they will review them. Any reasonably priced printers you can recommend? photography book 150 pages hardcover 500-1000 copies? My mom has connections in China so I am getting a quote from a reliable source there as well, but as you can imagine there is a bit of guesswork with translation and the middleman is not a printer...
pjbialas 2 months ago
@pjbialas i hope they didn't use the term 'dpi'! yes, i can help you. please email me directly rick(at)hidefcolor(dot)com with complete specs for your book. are you looking for hardcover smyth-sewn book?
hidefcolor 2 months ago
This process seems to be converting my text as well? any ideas?
BigBPublishing 5 months ago
@BigBPublishing You must not have selected "preserve numbers'" under color conversion menu. See 2:42 into video. Preserve numbers will not separate 'native' colors that were created in InDesign, such as black type. Write me back if you have any other challenges with this color workflow...
hidefcolor 5 months ago
@hidefcolor Thanks for your quick reply but I did select "preserve numbers" and all your other steps. I then tried convert to destination without preserving numbers with US Web Coat and it succeeded in isolating most of the black on to one plate. I'm checking w/ the printer now to see if it worked. If it did this is one heck of a great solution.
It's for a newspaper if that makes a diff.
BigBPublishing 5 months ago
@BigBPublishing I didn't work entirely. :( How do I get all the black on to one plate???
BigBPublishing 5 months ago
@BigBPublishing Each CMYK color profile is compiled with different values of gray component replacement (GCR). GCR will determine how much black is used in neutral/gray areas of your page, including type. Not seeing your PDF file it's hard for me to determine what the problem is that you have. Make sure you look in color picker to determine what the 'source' color is of these objects that you can't get onto the black plate by themselves. It seems as if these objects are in RGB possibly...
hidefcolor 5 months ago
Si pongo esta opción ya puedo imprimir en rgb???
karatekai01 6 months ago
Excelente, muy bien explicado, gracias por compartirlo
Excellent, very well explained, thanks for sharing
marizmendi1656 7 months ago
@marizmendi1656 Thanks for the nice comment on the RGB to CMYK video. Share it with your friends and save them some time! Are there any other topics you would like to see discussed? Thanks!
hidefcolor 7 months ago
@hidefcolor Yes, with this method you can not have much control on how the RGB to CMYK conversion was made on a photo, (in this case, the ballon) I mean, may be you need the photo with no black at all, or less Cyan, or less magenta, etc, so how to handle with this situation? Thanks for any response
marizmendi1656 7 months ago
@marizmendi1656 i'm not exactly sure I understand your question. The takeaway is that if you run a color managed workflow (calibrated monitor, tagged RGB images) you can truly rely on a WYSIWYG workflow. Keep in mind that when setting 'conversion' tab in PDF, you are converting all color - placed RGB, spot colors, etc - into the printing condition that is selected by the output profile. Most designers I've spoken to do not care about how the images are converted to CMYK as long as color matches.
hidefcolor 7 months ago
The magazine complain that my ad is in RGB collor. Then I found your video. It is very helpful but I can't check the option "All Spots to Process" . It is in light gray. I just can check "Use Standard Lab Value for Spot" (Ink Manage option). Do you know why can't I do it? Thank you so much!
reginalice 7 months ago
This was a great saver. I had to output a 1000 image catalog and most images where RGB. doing them one by one in photoshop was my last option. you've saved me quite a few hours (or days)
Evolveweb 9 months ago
@Evolveweb thanks for the comment. i'm very pleased i was happy to save you so much time in not having to convert your images to cmyk. let me know what types of video tutorials you would like to see in the future...thanks!
hidefcolor 9 months ago
Thanks man, this helps a lot!
oriontrail 11 months ago
thanks for the nice comment. please share with your friends and help each other...
hidefcolor 1 year ago
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aleaha82 1 year ago
This has helped me so much! I've just started working as a graphic designer but don't have any formal qualifications. I have a deadline in an hour for a newspaper and this has helped me make the deadline. =)
aleaha82 1 year ago
thanks for the comment...i will look into your question and post an answer tomorrow for you. thank you
hidefcolor 1 year ago
This is a great tip...but for some reason when I follow the instructions I get a grayed out Ink Manager Button so it kind of dead ends me from following your protocol.
Any Ideas why this is happening?
Thanks
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hidefcolor 1 year ago
This is great, thanks for posting.
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