I love how "pro-lifers" like Rick Perry want to control abortion rights while the majority of women who abort are probably doing so because of low income, no healthcare, quality of life issues...but on the other hand want to reduce education spending, cut social welfare programs the very things these women would benefit from. Ironic. I've never seen a pro-lifer outside of planned parenthood offer to help pay for childcare and four years of college...right. But they are all soooo concerned...
There is nothing sadder or more pathetic than for adults to punish a child for their mistakes and abortion is the worse kind of punishment because it takes away their entire lives. Any woman who has an abortion except in a life or death situation is selfish and heartless. Unless one of the twos life is at risk, why should anyone have to die?? Is 9 mos not worth a life of 80+ yrs?!? What a sad world!
"Do you think that jamming a pair of scissors through the skull of a baby and sucking its brains out with a vacuum an ethical practice?" WTF are you taking about!
That Bill Clinton has such strong personal convictions & right to moral outrage. PLEASE!!! That guy would've approved ANYTHING, in a minute, if he believed it'd advance his career & perceived legacy. The guy's spent his adult life, even IN OFFICE, treating women like sex objects & trying to rip their clothes off, in addition to MANY other known/suspected examples of misconduct. He'd lock women naked in kitchens with a room full of whip-brandishing rapists if it served his purposes. He's no hero.
Bill Clinton's ignorance astounds me. Ever heard of "Ex Post Facto," Mr. EX-president? It would be IMPOSSIBLE for the doctors to be charged as accessories to murder because this morally-repugnant practice of abortion is currently legal. Therefore, even if a law was passed today that outlawed abortion, and designated it as murder, these doctors could not be charged with such a crime. Furthermore, Clinton committed a logical fallacy known as "Straw Man" becasue he misrepresented views of pro-life.
"only an idiot would buy the public persona of bill clinton" "he is and always has been an angry man who enjoys inflicting as much pain on his enemies as possible"
@ZzRvXzZ "are you willing to help the children living in misery THAT could have being aborted?" You seem to argue that abortion is preferable to living in misery. Death before pain/sadness. If you truly believe this logic, then you must support killing homeless people to end their suffering? For ending their suffering is clearly better than allowing them to continue living in misry, right? Additionally, taking care of the babies that could have been aborted is a Red herring, a logical fallacy.
@ZzRvXzZ My name has nothing to do with this subject, and thank you. I love cats. You are so rude. You have no idea what it is like to be a child in the womb. Would you like to be killed? I seriously doubt it! Killing them is NO SOLUTION. There are plenty of people who would LOVE to adopt a child that can't have one themselves.
@ZzRvXzZ adopt... are you dum.... there are to many kids in orphanages and foster homes in America... just to prove my point, what do you think us other countries think about America... and that hole irak situation!
@jakethewhale it is preferable. I'm going to have 2 kids in my life that are mine. I'm going to have them when i leave college so that I know I can provide all that I can for them when the timing is right for them, and your kids in turn will live in a world not overcrowded.
@ZzRvXzZ Your use of ad hominmem, fallacies, labeling, & hate add nothing to this debate. In modern nations, birth control is cheap & readily available, the female condom gives a woman complete control over the birth control decision, and modern medicine has provided multiple birth control options. With these things in place, there should be little "need" for abortion. The irresponsibilty, selfishness & ignorance of the couple chosing to having sex is the real problem.
I am pro choice and anyone who is not is ignorant or devoted to a figment of there imagination called god, conservatives piss me off because its more important to protest abortion that save actual living people from war or hunger? how many times did jesus reference abortion? 2 and it was favorable, how many times did jesus reference charity and peace? 1200000000 times over yet you idiots only here the parts your pastor tells you since i assume you can't read the actual blble, or anything at all
My body, My choice should begin BEFORE pregnancy - NOT after! There's no excuse for murdering the mistake you made - that could have, should have, and would have been prevented BEFORE unwanted pregnancy! Abortion laws give women too much freedom. It's a license to murder life and NOBODY should have that right. Suppose every woman chose to abort their baby. Human existence would cease to exist. Women have the power to end the world. But I bet the government would step in THEN!
@NautyKnight For every person who thinks abortion is murder, better be volunteering their own time to single mothers to help them raise their children for the choice they encourage them to make. You have a strong opinion about this, is it the same once these children make it into the world? How much emotion for them do you have then? Just as much zeal for the living as the hypothetical? Put your faith and actions where your mouth is then.
@Bigbird5553 - Nope. Single mothers made THEIR OWN decision to have the child. They made that choice when they spread their legs for some man without protecting themselves from unwanted pregnancy in the first place. And obviously the pregnancy wasn't unwanted if the woman CHOSE to have the baby, considering the current abortion laws. You're a deadbeat that expects men to pay for the choices of women regardless. Women have no self-integrity at all! That's why they need abortion rights! Pathetic!
@NautyKnight and you made the decision to intervene in their behavior and attempt to alter it rather then leave them to their own fate. Which you feel they will be judged for.You too will be judged just as harshly by that logic. This is just lazy criticism where you want your cake and can eat it too. It's easy to just say "you should do this" but hard to back up and actually stand for something then words. Unless you volunteer for the cause, then your just words and ego. nothing else
We determine death when the heart stops. Therefore, life begins when the heart starts (about 6 to 7 weeks into pregnancy). If something has a heartbeat - IT"S ALIVE! Doesn't matter that it's not a fully grown baby. Should we abort all children since they are not fully grown adults? Nope. Uncle Sam might give you a pass to kill but Uncle Sam isn't God! You WILL BE judged. Bottom line ladies - if you ride a cock and don't want to get pregnant, make sure he's wearing a rubber or use the pill.
@NautyKnight you will also be judged if you don't help those women raise their children when you insist they have them. You tell them your OPINION on what you think is correct and what isn't, so it's your duty to do so if your altering someones normal behavior.
@Bigbird5553 - Her body, her choice - so ain't no man insisting she have them. Her body, HER CHOICE! Not mine, not his, HERS! And HERS only! So if a woman CHOOSES to have the child then that's on her.
@staum 607 3 of 3: a blood transfusion (0.02%-0.3% of cases).5,10
Death occurs in 0.0006% of all legal surgical abortions (one in 160,000 cases). These rare deaths are usually the result of such things as adverse reactions to anesthesia, embolism, infection, or uncontrollable bleeding.9 In comparison, a woman's risk of death during pregnancy and childbirth is ten times greater.5
@mandi18181818 I appreciate the info - though I think you didn't count the numbers of women killed as a result of abortion (hundreds of thousands each year). However, in the interest of a fair and reasonable discussion, may I have your source?
@staum607 it is on the abortion federations website and yes I included the number of deaths..0.0006% of all legal abortions performed and they are usually the result of adverse reaction to anesthesia, embolism, infection, or uncontrollable bleeding. And the risk of death during child birth and pregnancy is 10 times greater....The risk is about the same as any surgery so maybe you should stick to the argument of "baby killing" and even then you sound ignorant.
@mandi18181818 I was referring to the dead babies, but regarding the illegal causing more death compared to legal abortion question, according to the data you provided it seems like it is related to surgery. When comparing the numbers you provided to the surgery mortality during the same period of years (pre roe v wade to post roe v wade) there is not a significant difference. This would seem to indicate legalizing it had little (though probably not zero) impact on it's mortality rate.
@staum607 Does it not seem probable that now MORE abortions are performed than when people did them on their own. Also, those are only the statistics of surgical abortion many abortions are performed with mifepristone a pill you take to terminate a pregnancy before up to 20 weeks some places. The risks are even more minimal. Also, are you going to support the hundreds of thousands of fetuses and special needs children if abortion where ever illegal?
@mandi18181818 Death occurs in 100% of successful abortions. The dead baby is then taken to a dumpster and treated with less respect than a dead pit bull is in many cases.
@Nonamearisto Seriously, why do you take it so personally? It is not your fetus, I don't see you personally raising the funds to support abandoned children, foster care is sad and the children are severily damaged,so in my opinion that isn't even the best option if say in "your" version of the world fetuses were no longer aborted but carried to term and given up for adoption.Did you know that before abortions were legal, midwive gave high doses of vitamin C and parsley tea to induce menstration?
Clinton was one of the greatest presidents this country has ever had. As to this video...No one has the right to tell anyone what to do with their body. If it doesnt affect you, then fuck off and mind your own business. Anti-abortion people are bored and have sexless marriages. It's very sad. You're a sad person.
Sueezee1 my mother wanted to abort my baby brother because she already had 3boys . However she changed her mind. This little brother of mine if there was not the 6 year difference of age, we would have been 2 brothers who would have been like 2 peas in a pod. I was in business with him 10 years. We had a garbage&recycleing company. It was a wonderful time&we worked together "excellent". Abortion would have robbed me of this opprotunity. ABORTION ROBS SIBBLINGS OF FAMILY EXPERIENCES, FYI
@RonSafreed ABORTION ROBS SIBBLINGS OF FAMILY EXPERIENCES,
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hahahahahah,,,omg...so does NOT having sex. Women can have some 40 babies in a lifetime... shall we start reproducing to make sure each egg is fertilized to make babies so that kids have a damned "family experience"? I NEVER knew people, who thought like you do, exsisted until I came here. How in the hell do you ignorant people survive in this world??
All women who abort their un-born have the following for their un-born. Hate, rejection, indifference, selfishness,intolerance, greed,hedonism,addictions(alcohol,drugs,ect),no fear of God, no natural affection. One, some or all of these are stronger than"LOVE" for the un-born child they are carrying. However some women have these negative charicteristics&give birth to the baby, but they dont have"murder". Women who want that un-born are the only women who fully love their un-born.FYI.
Sueezee1 these women that abort their "babies" are murderers no different than Charlie Manson, Jeffery Dalhmer&others. They will have to give an account to God on judgement day&be sent to hell like all other ur-repentant murderers. Ohh BTW-there is no God so when these mothers die they will be "totally dead" since there is no after-life "or God" So judgement-day is a farse&hell is a farse so they will get away "scott free". Too bad for Charlie Manson&Jeffery Dalhmer they got justice. hahahaha
@RonSafreed says: They will have to give an account to God
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hahaha oh ya, play the God card when your backed into a corner. Well, sweetie, prove aboriton is a biblical sin and murder. You CANT. YOURE ANOTHER LIAR IN THE NAME OF GOD AND WE LOVE THAT. Youd better be polishing up you pitchfork, you liar.
When the pro-choice people want it, they will call it a "BABY". When the pro-choice people don't want it, they then call it a "FETUS" or something like "A BLOB OF TISSUE OR CELLS". Looks like the pro-choice want their pie&have cake too.The pro-life people are "DIRECT&LINEAR" in their approach to this situation.IT IS A BABY, HUMAN LIFE&COMPLETE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION".Some pro choice want to be able to kill a baby even after the baby is born.Pro-choice has no natural affection. Hmmmm.
@RonSafreed says: When the pro-choice people don't want it, they then call it a "FETUS"
~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahaha, I have NEVER heard a woman say Im aborting my fetus...You dumbass..they refer to it as nothing. They say they are aborting...period. I have never seen so many people come up with so many lies in my life, and you dumbasses dont even know that they dont work..God bless the village idiots
@RonSafreed says: Some pro choice want to be able to kill a baby even after the baby is born.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahahahah, why would they do that when they can abort. More LIEs Ronnie...they make you look like a fool!! Keep up the good work..prochoice thanks you!
@RonSafreed says:Pro-choice has no natural affection. Hmmmm.
~~~~~~~~~~ Do you mean like YOU do in demanding hated baibes be born, or babies being born to starve to death a week later?? Ahhhhhhhh, now THATS affection!!
@Jayc2400 So if you wring out your recently used jizz rag and place its contents inside an ovulating woman, what will eventually come out? Your point is invalid. Im off to commit a bigger genocide than Stalin ever did via xvideos.
@PhilSchlenkerHockey says: In order to support abortion you are taking the "choice" (yeah you read that right) of an unborn child that doesn't have a voice in the matter yet.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ It dosent have a god damned choice either, you fool!! Good god, can people get any dumber???
When every pro-lifer agrees that they will adopt every child that was to be aborted then I'll listen to them. Until then know your role. Shut your mouth.
And as far as an unborn child not having a voice in the matter: they can't talk. they have no clue what's going on.
Does he realy "Loses Temper, Lashes Out"? i meen, if he were to yell "get out! take them away, those crazy loones!" then thatd fit the title. If you were to watch any of his videos on comebacks to hecklers, you would see that the way he speaks to them is almost always the same. So way to blow it all out of proportion.
@atheistram you are no different then an unborn child. Any difference you might try to point out would also exist between you and other "already born" people.
@staum607 says: you are no different then an unborn child. Any difference you might try to point out would also exist between you and other "already born" people.
~~~~~~~~~~~ So, you love your most loved realtive as you love the embryo of a women in Kalamazoo??? LOL You people are twits.
@atheistram there are people who have been born who do not have a fully formed brain - can we kill them? Do sedated infants in the ICU understand and know that they exist? Can we kill them?
@atheistram I pointed out your faulty logic. You see, that is how intelligent people attempt to debate - I cannot ignore poor rebuttals unless I do not want to discuss issues, but merely want to post random unsubstantiated assertions.If your points were valid they would also apply in those cases I mentioned. If there is something else that you believe makes an unborn baby not a human being, then you need to use that as your rebuttal; not the ones you attempted to use earlier.
@atheistram you also are simply a collection of cells. Are you saying because you contain more cells you are a human being, or because you are more developed or...?
Yes, but those blastocysts turn into people, the beginning stages of the development of a human, part of the process of the development of human being. When you plant a seed, is it not a root first? You would not pull the root up before it became a tomatoe HUH?
Blastocysts-God says He know us before we were in the womb....scripture dear!! and therefore these blastocysts already have a soul. Souls go to heaven not the human flesh, and not even the blastocysts.
@staum607 You realize you quoted a book dated in the 1980's, that was 30 years ago. Also, in my opinion people born with half a brain should be put to sleep. I have worked with adults with developmental disabilities and some can't even use the restroom and they have been this way their entire lives. It is devestating and they are miserable...
@mandi18181818 I quoted multiple books, some were old. Darwin's books were written longer ago then the ones I quoted, do you reject them due to their age? A better rebuttal to my book(s) would be to demonstrate the numbers are inaccurate (at least they are inaccurate now) Are you saying we should kill (murder) adults with "half a brain" or only infants?
@staum607 prt 1 of 3:Types of Complications from Surgical Abortion:
Although rare, possible complications from a surgical abortion procedure include:
•blood clots accumulating in the uterus, requiring another suctioning procedure, (less than 0.2% of cases);9
•infections, most of which are easily identified and treated if the woman carefully observes follow-up instructions, (0.1%-2.0% of North American cases);9
•a tear in the cervix, which may be repaired with stitches (0.6%-1.2% of cases);10
@staum607 2 of 3 •perforation (a puncture or tear) of the wall of the uterus and/or other organs (less than 0.4% of cases). This may heal itself or may require surgical repair or, rarely, hysterectomy;
•missed abortion, which does not end the pregnancy and requires the abortion to be repeated (less than 0.3% of cases);
•incomplete abortion, in which tissue from the pregnancy remains in the uterus, and requires a repeat suction procedure, (0.3%-2.0% of cases);
@staum607 2 of 3 •perforation (a puncture or tear) of the wall of the uterus and/or other organs (less than 0.4% of cases). This may heal itself or may require surgical repair or, rarely, hysterectomy;
•missed abortion, which does not end the pregnancy and requires the abortion to be repeated (less than 0.3% of cases);
•incomplete abortion, in which tissue from the pregnancy remains in the uterus, and requires a repeat suction procedure, (0.3%-2.0% of cases);
@staum607 says: are you saying the law makes them no a human being?
~~~~~~~~ yes, " human being' is ONLY a legal (LAW) term. It ONLY means a born individual with rights. Slaves werent called human beings because they didnt have rights, either!!! Did your uneducated ass EVER attempt to open a book ( or computer) & learn about any of this? Why do you CHOOSE to be ignorant? Take alittle pride in yourself,,,if you have ANY.. & get smarter!
@staum607 says: Does that mean Jews were not really human beings in WWII?
~~~~~~~~ Are you frickin telling me that youre comparing a country that, over 60 yrs ago, was run by an insane maniac who decided it was ok to kill living breathing, breathing human beings, to our country that has legal abortion of a NON human being?? get smarter staum, youre boring me!!
@Sueezee1 What I am saying is your logic is the same, you implied that the status of being a human being was somehow linked to the law ("if it were a human being, abortion would be illegal...") Obviously this is circular reasoning, but if it was solid logic, then you would have to admit Jews were also not human. If you do not hold to this view you need to try some other line of thought - BTW check out the 180 movie here on youtube for a reasoned defense of pro-life
@staum607 says: says: hat I am saying is your logic is the same, you implied that the status of being a human being was somehow linked to the law ("if it were a human being, abortion would be illegal...") Obviously this is circular reasoning, but if it was solid logic, then you would have to admit Jews
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahahahahah. OMG .forget it. We won, You dont need to explain why you didnt!!
@Sueezee1 well you got me there, one of the most effective arguments is a non-argument (like yours). They are nearly impssible to reason against - however they also do nothing to back up your opinions, so I am just fine with you using them. Take care!
@atheistram Fetus is simply a term for the stage of growth the child is in, it in no way negates the childs humanity. It continues after birth as well infant, toddler etc.
clinton is the shit...and legalizing abortion stops it from being performed by women who dont know what they are doing and causing infection. It was an epidemic, learn your history. And the moment we decide what types of abortions are legal or illegal is when we lose our rights. It is not the governments business to decide some things and it sure as hell is not my place to judge anyone.
@staum607 says: more women are hurt now due to botched abortions then before roe v wade in "back-alley" abortions
~~~~~~~~ You cant say that untill you tell us all how many abortion were preformed in both eras, botched or not...and you cant do that, so youre a LIAR...AGAIN!
@staum607 D&C's, the procedure known as an "abortion" before 12 weeks gestation is the most widely performed female surgery and the risk is extremely minimal. This procedure is performed for viable pregnancies as well as miscarriages, after birth to remove left over tissue, for heavy periods(to remove the lining of the uterus) and for hemorraging....learn your facts before you bark some ignorant line like that.
@mandi18181818 9. National statistics on abortion show that 10% of women undergoing induced abortion suffer from immediate complications, of which one-fifth (2%) were considered major.
1.2 m abortions per year = 24,000 major complications
Frank, et.al., “Induced Abortion Operations and Their Early Sequelae”, Journal of the Royal College of General Practitioners (April 1985), vol.35,no.73,pp175-180.
Grimes and Cates, “Abortion: Methods and Complications”, Human Reproduction, 2nd ed., 796-813.
@mandi18181818 The mortality rate now for women who have an abortion is twice (or in some studies as high as 7 times greater risk) the rate of women who die from pregnancy related complications
Gissler, M., et. al., “Pregnancy-associated deaths in Finland 1987-1994 — definition problems and benefits of record linkage,” Acta Obsetricia et Gynecolgica Scandinavica 76:651-657 (1997).
it should be illegal to get abortions. if a woman(slut) is stupid enough to get knocked up, she should have to take responsibility for what she did instead of killing the baby and thinking that that makes everything ok.
@2682nscovell SAnger's comment was taken the wrong way . BTW abortion was going on long before sanger was born. Please know your issue is with indiv. not groups. Way back in 138 when my grandmother was pregnant with the 8th child, she drank something to abort. Sanger didnt tell her to do that.
A sign that says Abortion kills children. Good to see you understand what abortion actually is then, we're all proud of you. The spelling isnt bad either! idiot.
We'll see how Pro Life you all are over the next twenty years when peak oil starts hitting home. There was only a billion people on the planet before the oil age, and there will only be a billion people without it.
@moonsugar1 Really? REALLY? I don't know who you are, but you are incredibly evil. Are you insinuating population control????????? Because of oil???!?!!!!!!?!?!?! You are so evil is makes me want to puke!
@ajpreus Let me try and explain. Throughout all of human history up until the discovery of oil, there was a billion people on the planet. With the discovery of oil, human population spikes with the modernization of the world. Please, Google human population and check out a graph. in one century with oil, we've gone from 1 billion to 6/7. Now, beacuse Oil is a Finite resource, there is a Peak to our production of it. After that peak, we start pulling less oil out of the ground daily.... (cont)
@ajpreus Essentially, there are nearly 6 billion people on the planet that are only made possible to be here by oil. If we are past the point of peak and oil production is going into decline, then the demands of human population cant be met. Without a solution or scientific breakthrough to replace oil and all of our everyday uses of it, we face something called 'die off.'
Its kind of natures way of population control. I'm not evil, I certianly wish this wasnt true.
Do you believe it's ethical to chain a baby in a cage and force it to live in a sheltered, immobile prison for it's early life so we can kill it and enjoy it's tender meat?
Of course not, but we do it to make veal and have been for a long time. It's really easy to make things sound horrible and inhuman when we describe them in the most grotesque, visceral way we can imagine. How about you lay out all the facts for people and simply let them decide for themselves?
@note4note You have lost all value for human beings. Seriously people! You are all scaring the shit out of me! You compare a human life to a cattle? Know one thing! We Christians believe that God created every human being in His own image and that He desires all to be saved and live with Him in innocence! If I did not hold to the theological conviction that all humans were made in the image of God, I would have all the reason to believe that you so called pro-choice people don't have souls.
@ajpreus How about you decide to make a rebuttal against abortion without bringing God into it? I didn't bring religion into this. All I asked was instead of everyone of you anti-abortion protestors screaming the same thing about shoving scissors into a fetus that you discuss the issue in full.
The only reason I used the veal metaphor was to show how vile you can make anything sound if you break it down into it's most base actions. You can make brain surgery sound vile in the same way.
@kpgpwi64 Well aren't you a billy badass for saying you don't have a soul. WOW MAN you're such a rebel. Fuck off faggot, you're nothing special. Fuck Bill Clinton by the way.
@Problems123 No I don't think I'm a "billy bad ass rebel". Souls just don't exist, so calm down..You are just making your self look like an idiot if you are getting upset and starting to insult people just because they say souls don't exist..
@Problems123 Did you read my comment? or did that fly over your head along with your entire science class background? No, I don't think I'm a "badass" for stating facts. What next, are you going to mock me and call me a badass retard because I also deny the existence of leprechauns??
@Problems123 The soul hasn't been proven, consciousness has.. You claim you have a soul, where did you get this idea of a soul from? Besides, the burden of proof is on you, the maker of the claim, the claim that you have a magical, unseen force behind your life and it lives on after you die, or whatever nonsense you believe in.. But don't get distracted from the question, where did you get the idea of a soul from? and where is your proof?
@Problems123 "Gothic nerd"?? you are seriously judgemental and quite frankly, a fucking dumbass... You evaded my question still, and then resorted back to name calling for lack of a descent retort. The lack of proof of a soul is the proof it doesn't exist. It's never been proven or observed. It is the product of myths and fairy tales. Apparently you didn't understand "burden of proof" so i'll explain. If I told you I had an invisible unicorn, you would tell me to prove it, because I made the
@Problems123 No, you are just a bad troll. Go back to ridding your girl skate boards and fail at the rest of your life...I'm sorry I couldn't get through to you, apparently the "soul" is blocking off all common sense and logic to your brain.. You give a bad name to christians mate, once reasoning is shown to you, you turn in to a troll, asking silly meme questions like "u mad?" because you can come up with a descent, logical response match any of your silly claims. It's time you grow up...
@Problems123 Yeah, I know I don't have a soul, You don't either, neither does any human for that matter. That was my first comment. That was the only comment I needed.. You need more practise.
Wow! Irrational wicked people who actually think it's ok to kill babies! I can't believe that I live in this generation! How insane! Are you a real person? Because if you are, you need help, because you are seriously screwed up.
@ajpreus lmfao @ you extremists. "it's ok to kill babies" <--- no it's not okay to murder anyone. But if a women chooses not to have a baby - that is HER choice... not yours. It is NOT your choice... at all. It's her body and her right. What you do to your body is your own business. Keep your nose and "beliefs" out of others. And btw go read a fuckin' book.
Abortion is terrible, but so are the effects of chemotherapy drugs. Just because I don't want chemotherapy to be illegal doesn't mean I'm in favour of chemotherapy every instance a tumour shows up.
It is by following the logic of this analogy by which I find that abortion is at times necessary.
Also: Was this video recorded with a calculator or a toaster?
@imfamoussas nah, you're thinking about your mother. You know the one who decided to carry you to term, instead of having a doctor suck your brains out in the womb or take a pair of sicssors to your neck.
What would happen if all Pro-Lifers were aborted?
assaultmek 2 days ago
I love how "pro-lifers" like Rick Perry want to control abortion rights while the majority of women who abort are probably doing so because of low income, no healthcare, quality of life issues...but on the other hand want to reduce education spending, cut social welfare programs the very things these women would benefit from. Ironic. I've never seen a pro-lifer outside of planned parenthood offer to help pay for childcare and four years of college...right. But they are all soooo concerned...
312jahlee 1 week ago 2
@312jahlee Thank you!
MsCunt 5 days ago
"Our foremost and most important right."
An adult's life is always more important than a cluster of cells without autonomous life or identity, you sick misogynistic shits.
DefilerWyrm 1 week ago
There is nothing sadder or more pathetic than for adults to punish a child for their mistakes and abortion is the worse kind of punishment because it takes away their entire lives. Any woman who has an abortion except in a life or death situation is selfish and heartless. Unless one of the twos life is at risk, why should anyone have to die?? Is 9 mos not worth a life of 80+ yrs?!? What a sad world!
loopyloops1985 2 weeks ago
"Do you think that jamming a pair of scissors through the skull of a baby and sucking its brains out with a vacuum an ethical practice?" WTF are you taking about!
rwofcomedy 2 weeks ago
That Bill Clinton has such strong personal convictions & right to moral outrage. PLEASE!!! That guy would've approved ANYTHING, in a minute, if he believed it'd advance his career & perceived legacy. The guy's spent his adult life, even IN OFFICE, treating women like sex objects & trying to rip their clothes off, in addition to MANY other known/suspected examples of misconduct. He'd lock women naked in kitchens with a room full of whip-brandishing rapists if it served his purposes. He's no hero.
FlyUnicornsFly 1 month ago
Bill Clinton's ignorance astounds me. Ever heard of "Ex Post Facto," Mr. EX-president? It would be IMPOSSIBLE for the doctors to be charged as accessories to murder because this morally-repugnant practice of abortion is currently legal. Therefore, even if a law was passed today that outlawed abortion, and designated it as murder, these doctors could not be charged with such a crime. Furthermore, Clinton committed a logical fallacy known as "Straw Man" becasue he misrepresented views of pro-life.
jakethewhale 1 month ago
Fuck Boy Clinton.
cincyblows 1 month ago
Bill Clinton, I think, translates to "stupid idiot"
ConspiracyChannel101 1 month ago
this is on a computer? FAIL!!!
bishop51807 2 months ago
"only an idiot would buy the public persona of bill clinton" "he is and always has been an angry man who enjoys inflicting as much pain on his enemies as possible"
IwontConform 2 months ago
It's funny because most of the pro lifers arguments are: "oh, so you fuck, and now you want to kill the child?"
So, YOU see the birth of the child as a punishment for them? Why don't you take CARE about YOUR business?
I don't see any of you fucking pro-lifers helping starving children around the planet, children that COULD have been aborted...
pro-lifers = people that should be killed with fire.
ZzRvXzZ 2 months ago 2
One question to the pro lifers....
are you willing to help the children living in misery THAT could have being aborted?
if not.
You're a satanic person, you want to see babies being born, but you won't do anything to help them to have a good life...
heres a thing: having a miserable life and having to eat trash is worse than being aborted.
ZzRvXzZ 2 months ago
@ZzRvXzZ "are you willing to help the children living in misery THAT could have being aborted?" You seem to argue that abortion is preferable to living in misery. Death before pain/sadness. If you truly believe this logic, then you must support killing homeless people to end their suffering? For ending their suffering is clearly better than allowing them to continue living in misry, right? Additionally, taking care of the babies that could have been aborted is a Red herring, a logical fallacy.
jakethewhale 1 month ago
@jakethewhale
One question: Are you willing to help babies that could be aborted? Babies that are going to grow up and have a miserable life...
I just want you to answer that question.
ZzRvXzZ 1 month ago
@ZzRvXzZ So just kill them instead. Yeah, that sounds good. #nologicinthatcomment
ilikecats40111 4 weeks ago
@ilikecats40111
"i like cats"
Nice name... little kid.
Now go back to your little imaginary world.
YES... killing them is better than making them live a miserable life.
ZzRvXzZ 3 weeks ago
@ZzRvXzZ My name has nothing to do with this subject, and thank you. I love cats. You are so rude. You have no idea what it is like to be a child in the womb. Would you like to be killed? I seriously doubt it! Killing them is NO SOLUTION. There are plenty of people who would LOVE to adopt a child that can't have one themselves.
ilikecats40111 3 weeks ago
@ilikecats40111
ahahahahahaahahahaahahahaahahahahaha
hahahaha
"i have no idea what is to be a child in the womb"
Hmmm, so you're saying that i'm an allien, i was born in an egg.
hahaha stupid child.
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@ZzRvXzZ adopt... are you dum.... there are to many kids in orphanages and foster homes in America... just to prove my point, what do you think us other countries think about America... and that hole irak situation!
rwofcomedy 2 weeks ago
@jakethewhale it is preferable. I'm going to have 2 kids in my life that are mine. I'm going to have them when i leave college so that I know I can provide all that I can for them when the timing is right for them, and your kids in turn will live in a world not overcrowded.
moondes 1 month ago
@ZzRvXzZ Your use of ad hominmem, fallacies, labeling, & hate add nothing to this debate. In modern nations, birth control is cheap & readily available, the female condom gives a woman complete control over the birth control decision, and modern medicine has provided multiple birth control options. With these things in place, there should be little "need" for abortion. The irresponsibilty, selfishness & ignorance of the couple chosing to having sex is the real problem.
neechee5150 1 month ago
@neechee5150
little virgin.
ZzRvXzZ 1 month ago
Dont fuck if you dont want babies. Killing babies is simply wrong.
JawsJaws 2 months ago
Clinton is right. Listen to what he says, you cunts.
xomiakas 3 months ago
DAMN! Bill Clinton just got MAJOR kudos points from me for this LOL. *pwned
MissIndianaJones83 3 months ago
@MissIndianaJones83
While I don't like Bill Clinton, I agree here.
I am against abortion but these pro-lifers are nothing but hypocrites. What Clinton said here IS right!
ndrussiangerman1 3 months ago
I am pro choice and anyone who is not is ignorant or devoted to a figment of there imagination called god, conservatives piss me off because its more important to protest abortion that save actual living people from war or hunger? how many times did jesus reference abortion? 2 and it was favorable, how many times did jesus reference charity and peace? 1200000000 times over yet you idiots only here the parts your pastor tells you since i assume you can't read the actual blble, or anything at all
comradebashu 3 months ago
Why is it always men that are so against abortion?
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My body, My choice should begin BEFORE pregnancy - NOT after! There's no excuse for murdering the mistake you made - that could have, should have, and would have been prevented BEFORE unwanted pregnancy! Abortion laws give women too much freedom. It's a license to murder life and NOBODY should have that right. Suppose every woman chose to abort their baby. Human existence would cease to exist. Women have the power to end the world. But I bet the government would step in THEN!
NautyKnight 3 months ago
@NautyKnight For every person who thinks abortion is murder, better be volunteering their own time to single mothers to help them raise their children for the choice they encourage them to make. You have a strong opinion about this, is it the same once these children make it into the world? How much emotion for them do you have then? Just as much zeal for the living as the hypothetical? Put your faith and actions where your mouth is then.
Bigbird5553 3 months ago
@Bigbird5553 - Nope. Single mothers made THEIR OWN decision to have the child. They made that choice when they spread their legs for some man without protecting themselves from unwanted pregnancy in the first place. And obviously the pregnancy wasn't unwanted if the woman CHOSE to have the baby, considering the current abortion laws. You're a deadbeat that expects men to pay for the choices of women regardless. Women have no self-integrity at all! That's why they need abortion rights! Pathetic!
NautyKnight 3 months ago
@NautyKnight and you made the decision to intervene in their behavior and attempt to alter it rather then leave them to their own fate. Which you feel they will be judged for.You too will be judged just as harshly by that logic. This is just lazy criticism where you want your cake and can eat it too. It's easy to just say "you should do this" but hard to back up and actually stand for something then words. Unless you volunteer for the cause, then your just words and ego. nothing else
Bigbird5553 3 months ago
We determine death when the heart stops. Therefore, life begins when the heart starts (about 6 to 7 weeks into pregnancy). If something has a heartbeat - IT"S ALIVE! Doesn't matter that it's not a fully grown baby. Should we abort all children since they are not fully grown adults? Nope. Uncle Sam might give you a pass to kill but Uncle Sam isn't God! You WILL BE judged. Bottom line ladies - if you ride a cock and don't want to get pregnant, make sure he's wearing a rubber or use the pill.
NautyKnight 3 months ago
@NautyKnight you will also be judged if you don't help those women raise their children when you insist they have them. You tell them your OPINION on what you think is correct and what isn't, so it's your duty to do so if your altering someones normal behavior.
Bigbird5553 3 months ago
@Bigbird5553 - Her body, her choice - so ain't no man insisting she have them. Her body, HER CHOICE! Not mine, not his, HERS! And HERS only! So if a woman CHOOSES to have the child then that's on her.
My wallet - MY money!
NautyKnight 3 months ago
when did this speech take place?
roaringwaterbay 4 months ago
Nobody is pro-abortion. That's a nonsense label.
icntsywhtiwnt2 4 months ago
fuck abortion. then force it to have an abortion. win win.
stick1984 4 months ago
What an idiot
HeatherandChris7 4 months ago
What chance has an unborn baby got against the powerful abortion industry and their lobbyists and PR
elegantlywasted100 4 months ago
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@elegantlywasted100 says: What chance has an unborn baby got against the powerful abortion industry and their lobbyists and PR
~~~~~~~~~~~ Stop wanting to take "chances" on childrens lives!!
Sueezee1 3 months ago
CLINTON IS A LOSER! A CHEATER! A LIAR! Can't stand the guy!!
VOTE NO OBAMA IN 2012! The guy has no clue how to run a country!
MsCampobasso 4 months ago
I FUCKING LOVE BILL CLINTON.
delightfulcheesecake 4 months ago 2
Mother Teresa was given 3 Prophecies by O.T. God Jesus Exodus 19:
[X] 1. "The USA will elect a Black President!"
[X] 2. "The PERSON (with THE CURE for AIDS) was aborted!"
[ ] 3. "The FRUIT OF ABORTION = IS nuCLEAR war!"
[And I might add: first USA churches and then the ACLU "Supreme" Court
"Justices" making God's 10 Commandments "ILLEGAL" in order to take them off their own walls.]
See Seventh Day Adventist book "TWICE REMOVED"
To live 101+
1.STUDY TV 3ABN
2.Go to Feast Goer org
Godscards 4 months ago
Bill Clinton is the LAST person who should be talking about women and their rights. Lewinsky had rights with Clinton for sure.
Nonamearisto 4 months ago
@staum 607 3 of 3: a blood transfusion (0.02%-0.3% of cases).5,10
Death occurs in 0.0006% of all legal surgical abortions (one in 160,000 cases). These rare deaths are usually the result of such things as adverse reactions to anesthesia, embolism, infection, or uncontrollable bleeding.9 In comparison, a woman's risk of death during pregnancy and childbirth is ten times greater.5
mandi18181818 4 months ago
@mandi18181818 I appreciate the info - though I think you didn't count the numbers of women killed as a result of abortion (hundreds of thousands each year). However, in the interest of a fair and reasonable discussion, may I have your source?
staum607 4 months ago
@staum607 it is on the abortion federations website and yes I included the number of deaths..0.0006% of all legal abortions performed and they are usually the result of adverse reaction to anesthesia, embolism, infection, or uncontrollable bleeding. And the risk of death during child birth and pregnancy is 10 times greater....The risk is about the same as any surgery so maybe you should stick to the argument of "baby killing" and even then you sound ignorant.
mandi18181818 4 months ago
@mandi18181818 I was referring to the dead babies, but regarding the illegal causing more death compared to legal abortion question, according to the data you provided it seems like it is related to surgery. When comparing the numbers you provided to the surgery mortality during the same period of years (pre roe v wade to post roe v wade) there is not a significant difference. This would seem to indicate legalizing it had little (though probably not zero) impact on it's mortality rate.
staum607 4 months ago
@staum607 Does it not seem probable that now MORE abortions are performed than when people did them on their own. Also, those are only the statistics of surgical abortion many abortions are performed with mifepristone a pill you take to terminate a pregnancy before up to 20 weeks some places. The risks are even more minimal. Also, are you going to support the hundreds of thousands of fetuses and special needs children if abortion where ever illegal?
mandi18181818 4 months ago
@staum607 says: in the interest of a fair and reasonable discussion, may I have your source?
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Instead of asking for her source, just find the source that proves her worng. I wonder why none of you do that. (smile)
Sueezee1 3 months ago
@mandi18181818 Death occurs in 100% of successful abortions. The dead baby is then taken to a dumpster and treated with less respect than a dead pit bull is in many cases.
Nonamearisto 4 months ago
@Nonamearisto Seriously, why do you take it so personally? It is not your fetus, I don't see you personally raising the funds to support abandoned children, foster care is sad and the children are severily damaged,so in my opinion that isn't even the best option if say in "your" version of the world fetuses were no longer aborted but carried to term and given up for adoption.Did you know that before abortions were legal, midwive gave high doses of vitamin C and parsley tea to induce menstration?
mandi18181818 4 months ago
@Nonamearisto says: The dead baby is then taken to a dumpster
~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahah, God i love dumb probirthers!!!
Sueezee1 3 months ago
I wish you were aborted.
nickyroose 4 months ago
fuck abortion
trey4439 4 months ago
Sueezee I dont know if you are male or female. If you're female have you had an abortion&how many? Did the man or men all go along with you or not?
RonSafreed 4 months ago
Clinton was one of the greatest presidents this country has ever had. As to this video...No one has the right to tell anyone what to do with their body. If it doesnt affect you, then fuck off and mind your own business. Anti-abortion people are bored and have sexless marriages. It's very sad. You're a sad person.
cuzshesmyruca 4 months ago
Clinton for president!
Why can't we vote for him anymore?
killerboyfoolz 4 months ago
Sueezee1 my mother wanted to abort my baby brother because she already had 3boys . However she changed her mind. This little brother of mine if there was not the 6 year difference of age, we would have been 2 brothers who would have been like 2 peas in a pod. I was in business with him 10 years. We had a garbage&recycleing company. It was a wonderful time&we worked together "excellent". Abortion would have robbed me of this opprotunity. ABORTION ROBS SIBBLINGS OF FAMILY EXPERIENCES, FYI
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@RonSafreed ABORTION ROBS SIBBLINGS OF FAMILY EXPERIENCES,
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hahahahahah,,,omg...so does NOT having sex. Women can have some 40 babies in a lifetime... shall we start reproducing to make sure each egg is fertilized to make babies so that kids have a damned "family experience"? I NEVER knew people, who thought like you do, exsisted until I came here. How in the hell do you ignorant people survive in this world??
Sueezee1 4 months ago
Clinton turned out to be a big disappointment.
JimColyer 4 months ago
All women who abort their un-born have the following for their un-born. Hate, rejection, indifference, selfishness,intolerance, greed,hedonism,addictions(alcohol,drugs,ect),no fear of God, no natural affection. One, some or all of these are stronger than"LOVE" for the un-born child they are carrying. However some women have these negative charicteristics&give birth to the baby, but they dont have"murder". Women who want that un-born are the only women who fully love their un-born.FYI.
RonSafreed 4 months ago
@RonSafreed why didnt you answer my question, chicken shit??? So, you love your most loved realtive as you love the embryo of a women in Kalamazoo???
Sueezee1 4 months ago
Sueezee1 these women that abort their "babies" are murderers no different than Charlie Manson, Jeffery Dalhmer&others. They will have to give an account to God on judgement day&be sent to hell like all other ur-repentant murderers. Ohh BTW-there is no God so when these mothers die they will be "totally dead" since there is no after-life "or God" So judgement-day is a farse&hell is a farse so they will get away "scott free". Too bad for Charlie Manson&Jeffery Dalhmer they got justice. hahahaha
RonSafreed 4 months ago
@RonSafreed says: these women that abort their "babies" are murderers no different than Charlie Manson, Jeffery Dalhmer
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sure they are...thats why all 50 million are in prison. hahahah..
Sueezee1 4 months ago
@RonSafreed says: They will have to give an account to God
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hahaha oh ya, play the God card when your backed into a corner. Well, sweetie, prove aboriton is a biblical sin and murder. You CANT. YOURE ANOTHER LIAR IN THE NAME OF GOD AND WE LOVE THAT. Youd better be polishing up you pitchfork, you liar.
Sueezee1 4 months ago
When the pro-choice people want it, they will call it a "BABY". When the pro-choice people don't want it, they then call it a "FETUS" or something like "A BLOB OF TISSUE OR CELLS". Looks like the pro-choice want their pie&have cake too.The pro-life people are "DIRECT&LINEAR" in their approach to this situation.IT IS A BABY, HUMAN LIFE&COMPLETE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION".Some pro choice want to be able to kill a baby even after the baby is born.Pro-choice has no natural affection. Hmmmm.
RonSafreed 5 months ago
@RonSafreed says: When the pro-choice people don't want it, they then call it a "FETUS"
~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahaha, I have NEVER heard a woman say Im aborting my fetus...You dumbass..they refer to it as nothing. They say they are aborting...period. I have never seen so many people come up with so many lies in my life, and you dumbasses dont even know that they dont work..God bless the village idiots
Sueezee1 4 months ago
@RonSafreed says: Some pro choice want to be able to kill a baby even after the baby is born.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahahahah, why would they do that when they can abort. More LIEs Ronnie...they make you look like a fool!! Keep up the good work..prochoice thanks you!
Sueezee1 4 months ago
@RonSafreed says:Pro-choice has no natural affection. Hmmmm.
~~~~~~~~~~ Do you mean like YOU do in demanding hated baibes be born, or babies being born to starve to death a week later?? Ahhhhhhhh, now THATS affection!!
Sueezee1 4 months ago
@Jayc2400 So if you wring out your recently used jizz rag and place its contents inside an ovulating woman, what will eventually come out? Your point is invalid. Im off to commit a bigger genocide than Stalin ever did via xvideos.
TankAssTanner 5 months ago
i am ceratinly a fan of the new pissed off clinton not taking any shit and not giving a fuck now that hes not president
KIRKMAN91 5 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey says: In order to support abortion you are taking the "choice" (yeah you read that right) of an unborn child that doesn't have a voice in the matter yet.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ It dosent have a god damned choice either, you fool!! Good god, can people get any dumber???
Sueezee1 5 months ago
@Sueezee1 of course it doesn't, just like the Jews didn't have a choice in the concentration camps. You raise a good point. Thanks!!
staum607 4 months ago
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@staum607 says: of course it doesn't, just like the Jews didn't have a choice in the concentration camps.
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LOLOL,I always enjoy the dipshit theroies from probirthers. It makes me realize why you people get NO where in your fight.
Sueezee1 4 months ago
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@staum607 says: just like the Jews didn't have a choice in the concentration camps.
~~~~~~~~~~ Youmust hate Jews to compare them with an unknown entity with the consciousness level of a damned earthworm. You should be ashamed.
Sueezee1 4 months ago
I want Clinton as our president again!!
Sueezee1 5 months ago
@atheistram Look I'm not trying to be mean, but that was one of the least humane things I have ever heard.
FindChristFindLife 5 months ago
When every pro-lifer agrees that they will adopt every child that was to be aborted then I'll listen to them. Until then know your role. Shut your mouth.
And as far as an unborn child not having a voice in the matter: they can't talk. they have no clue what's going on.
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stevespell2 5 months ago
Does he realy "Loses Temper, Lashes Out"? i meen, if he were to yell "get out! take them away, those crazy loones!" then thatd fit the title. If you were to watch any of his videos on comebacks to hecklers, you would see that the way he speaks to them is almost always the same. So way to blow it all out of proportion.
Anarchyisfreedom1 5 months ago 2
Clinton is lucky he wasn't aborted.
His eloquence cannot trump the truth of the sign: Abortion Kills Children.
When the definiton of abortion changes, let me know.
megy82 5 months ago
@megy82 Abortion kills cells and fetuses, not children.
atheistram 5 months ago 15
@atheistram you are a sick, sick person
FindChristFindLife 5 months ago
@FindChristFindLife No you are. For believing in a God who would send me to hell simply for the thoughtcrime of not believing in him.
atheistram 5 months ago
@atheistram So if you leave a fetus alone and let it grow then what will that fetus become?
Jayc2400 5 months ago
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@Jayc2400 says: So if you leave a fetus alone and let it grow then what will that fetus become?
~~~~~~~~~~~ A bigger fetus.
Sueezee1 5 months ago
@atheistram you are no different then an unborn child. Any difference you might try to point out would also exist between you and other "already born" people.
staum607 4 months ago
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@staum607 says: you are no different then an unborn child. Any difference you might try to point out would also exist between you and other "already born" people.
~~~~~~~~~~~ So, you love your most loved realtive as you love the embryo of a women in Kalamazoo??? LOL You people are twits.
Sueezee1 4 months ago
@staum607 I know I exist. There's one difference. I have a fully formed brain. There's another.
Want me to continue?
atheistram 4 months ago
@atheistram there are people who have been born who do not have a fully formed brain - can we kill them? Do sedated infants in the ICU understand and know that they exist? Can we kill them?
staum607 4 months ago
@staum607 You made an assertion. That I am no different from an unborn child. I refuted your point. That was the purpose of my post.
Nice try trying to equate my post with a woman's right to choose.
atheistram 4 months ago
@atheistram I pointed out your faulty logic. You see, that is how intelligent people attempt to debate - I cannot ignore poor rebuttals unless I do not want to discuss issues, but merely want to post random unsubstantiated assertions.If your points were valid they would also apply in those cases I mentioned. If there is something else that you believe makes an unborn baby not a human being, then you need to use that as your rebuttal; not the ones you attempted to use earlier.
staum607 4 months ago
@staum607 Fine, blastocysts are not human beings. They are simply a collection of cells. Refute that, if you can. :P
atheistram 4 months ago
@atheistram you also are simply a collection of cells. Are you saying because you contain more cells you are a human being, or because you are more developed or...?
staum607 4 months ago
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Yes, but those blastocysts turn into people, the beginning stages of the development of a human, part of the process of the development of human being. When you plant a seed, is it not a root first? You would not pull the root up before it became a tomatoe HUH?
Blastocysts-God says He know us before we were in the womb....scripture dear!! and therefore these blastocysts already have a soul. Souls go to heaven not the human flesh, and not even the blastocysts.
rolewi11 4 months ago
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atheistram 4 months ago
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@atheistram
why did you remove your comment? Give your life to Jesus.
rolewi11 4 months ago
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@rolewi11 Evidence that blastocysts have souls, please?? Actual evidence. Not your Bible.
Scripture does not proveGod... that's called circular reasoning, dear. One of the most basic logical fallacies.
atheistram 4 months ago
@staum607 You realize you quoted a book dated in the 1980's, that was 30 years ago. Also, in my opinion people born with half a brain should be put to sleep. I have worked with adults with developmental disabilities and some can't even use the restroom and they have been this way their entire lives. It is devestating and they are miserable...
mandi18181818 4 months ago
@mandi18181818 I quoted multiple books, some were old. Darwin's books were written longer ago then the ones I quoted, do you reject them due to their age? A better rebuttal to my book(s) would be to demonstrate the numbers are inaccurate (at least they are inaccurate now) Are you saying we should kill (murder) adults with "half a brain" or only infants?
staum607 4 months ago
@staum607 prt 1 of 3:Types of Complications from Surgical Abortion:
Although rare, possible complications from a surgical abortion procedure include:
•blood clots accumulating in the uterus, requiring another suctioning procedure, (less than 0.2% of cases);9
•infections, most of which are easily identified and treated if the woman carefully observes follow-up instructions, (0.1%-2.0% of North American cases);9
•a tear in the cervix, which may be repaired with stitches (0.6%-1.2% of cases);10
mandi18181818 4 months ago
@staum607 2 of 3 •perforation (a puncture or tear) of the wall of the uterus and/or other organs (less than 0.4% of cases). This may heal itself or may require surgical repair or, rarely, hysterectomy;
•missed abortion, which does not end the pregnancy and requires the abortion to be repeated (less than 0.3% of cases);
•incomplete abortion, in which tissue from the pregnancy remains in the uterus, and requires a repeat suction procedure, (0.3%-2.0% of cases);
Excessive bleeding requiring
mandi18181818 4 months ago
@staum607 2 of 3 •perforation (a puncture or tear) of the wall of the uterus and/or other organs (less than 0.4% of cases). This may heal itself or may require surgical repair or, rarely, hysterectomy;
•missed abortion, which does not end the pregnancy and requires the abortion to be repeated (less than 0.3% of cases);
•incomplete abortion, in which tissue from the pregnancy remains in the uterus, and requires a repeat suction procedure, (0.3%-2.0% of cases);
Excessive bleeding requiring
mandi18181818 4 months ago
@staum607 says:" If there is something else that you believe makes an unborn baby not a human being, then you need to use that as your rebuttal;
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if it were a human being, abortion would be illegal....
Sueezee1 3 months ago
@Sueezee1 are you saying the law makes them no a human being? Does that mean Jews were not really human beings in WWII?
staum607 3 months ago
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@staum607 says: are you saying the law makes them no a human being?
~~~~~~~~ yes, " human being' is ONLY a legal (LAW) term. It ONLY means a born individual with rights. Slaves werent called human beings because they didnt have rights, either!!! Did your uneducated ass EVER attempt to open a book ( or computer) & learn about any of this? Why do you CHOOSE to be ignorant? Take alittle pride in yourself,,,if you have ANY.. & get smarter!
Sueezee1 3 months ago
@staum607 says: Does that mean Jews were not really human beings in WWII?
~~~~~~~~ Are you frickin telling me that youre comparing a country that, over 60 yrs ago, was run by an insane maniac who decided it was ok to kill living breathing, breathing human beings, to our country that has legal abortion of a NON human being?? get smarter staum, youre boring me!!
Sueezee1 3 months ago
@Sueezee1 What I am saying is your logic is the same, you implied that the status of being a human being was somehow linked to the law ("if it were a human being, abortion would be illegal...") Obviously this is circular reasoning, but if it was solid logic, then you would have to admit Jews were also not human. If you do not hold to this view you need to try some other line of thought - BTW check out the 180 movie here on youtube for a reasoned defense of pro-life
staum607 3 months ago
@staum607 says: says: hat I am saying is your logic is the same, you implied that the status of being a human being was somehow linked to the law ("if it were a human being, abortion would be illegal...") Obviously this is circular reasoning, but if it was solid logic, then you would have to admit Jews
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahahahahah. OMG .forget it. We won, You dont need to explain why you didnt!!
Sueezee1 3 months ago
@Sueezee1 well you got me there, one of the most effective arguments is a non-argument (like yours). They are nearly impssible to reason against - however they also do nothing to back up your opinions, so I am just fine with you using them. Take care!
staum607 3 months ago
@atheistram Fetus is simply a term for the stage of growth the child is in, it in no way negates the childs humanity. It continues after birth as well infant, toddler etc.
mscheesymac 3 months ago
@megy82 lol If only you knew the truth about how our bodies work
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@megy82 says: Clinton is lucky he wasn't aborted.
~~~~~~~~~~~ WHY? ( cant wait to hear this intelligent reponse)LOLOL
Sueezee1 5 months ago
clinton is the shit...and legalizing abortion stops it from being performed by women who dont know what they are doing and causing infection. It was an epidemic, learn your history. And the moment we decide what types of abortions are legal or illegal is when we lose our rights. It is not the governments business to decide some things and it sure as hell is not my place to judge anyone.
mandi18181818 5 months ago 18
@mandi18181818 more women are hurt now due to botched abortions then before roe v wade in "back-alley" abortions - learn your history
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@staum607 says: more women are hurt now due to botched abortions then before roe v wade in "back-alley" abortions - learn your history
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Keep LYING probirther...prochoice counts on it. By the way, show your resource on that comment. (smile)
Sueezee1 4 months ago
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@staum607 says: more women are hurt now due to botched abortions then before roe v wade in "back-alley" abortions
~~~~~~~~ You cant say that untill you tell us all how many abortion were preformed in both eras, botched or not...and you cant do that, so youre a LIAR...AGAIN!
Sueezee1 4 months ago
@staum607 D&C's, the procedure known as an "abortion" before 12 weeks gestation is the most widely performed female surgery and the risk is extremely minimal. This procedure is performed for viable pregnancies as well as miscarriages, after birth to remove left over tissue, for heavy periods(to remove the lining of the uterus) and for hemorraging....learn your facts before you bark some ignorant line like that.
mandi18181818 4 months ago
@mandi18181818 9. National statistics on abortion show that 10% of women undergoing induced abortion suffer from immediate complications, of which one-fifth (2%) were considered major.
1.2 m abortions per year = 24,000 major complications
Frank, et.al., “Induced Abortion Operations and Their Early Sequelae”, Journal of the Royal College of General Practitioners (April 1985), vol.35,no.73,pp175-180.
Grimes and Cates, “Abortion: Methods and Complications”, Human Reproduction, 2nd ed., 796-813.
staum607 4 months ago
@mandi18181818 The mortality rate now for women who have an abortion is twice (or in some studies as high as 7 times greater risk) the rate of women who die from pregnancy related complications
Gissler, M., et. al., “Pregnancy-associated deaths in Finland 1987-1994 — definition problems and benefits of record linkage,” Acta Obsetricia et Gynecolgica Scandinavica 76:651-657 (1997).
read a book sometime :)
staum607 4 months ago
This video does not help your cause, haha.
KillerXCable 5 months ago
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it should be illegal to get abortions. if a woman(slut) is stupid enough to get knocked up, she should have to take responsibility for what she did instead of killing the baby and thinking that that makes everything ok.
thetrollking124 6 months ago
I don't think bringing children into such a HATEFUL world is an ethical practice. So stop being so hateful and mind your own damn bussiness
RozlinTheFallen 6 months ago 3
@2682nscovell Abortion was here long before sanger was born.
kmcl11 6 months ago
@2682nscovell we say that b/c we can read. Her her quote you dummy.
kmcl11 6 months ago
@2682nscovell SAnger's comment was taken the wrong way . BTW abortion was going on long before sanger was born. Please know your issue is with indiv. not groups. Way back in 138 when my grandmother was pregnant with the 8th child, she drank something to abort. Sanger didnt tell her to do that.
kmcl11 6 months ago
@2682nscovell pro choice...do not criminalize women
kmcl11 6 months ago
abortion is capital murder, and an abomination
redpaul79 6 months ago
A sign that says Abortion kills children. Good to see you understand what abortion actually is then, we're all proud of you. The spelling isnt bad either! idiot.
We'll see how Pro Life you all are over the next twenty years when peak oil starts hitting home. There was only a billion people on the planet before the oil age, and there will only be a billion people without it.
moonsugar1 6 months ago
@moonsugar1 Really? REALLY? I don't know who you are, but you are incredibly evil. Are you insinuating population control????????? Because of oil???!?!!!!!!?!?!?! You are so evil is makes me want to puke!
ajpreus 6 months ago
@ajpreus Let me try and explain. Throughout all of human history up until the discovery of oil, there was a billion people on the planet. With the discovery of oil, human population spikes with the modernization of the world. Please, Google human population and check out a graph. in one century with oil, we've gone from 1 billion to 6/7. Now, beacuse Oil is a Finite resource, there is a Peak to our production of it. After that peak, we start pulling less oil out of the ground daily.... (cont)
moonsugar1 6 months ago
@ajpreus Essentially, there are nearly 6 billion people on the planet that are only made possible to be here by oil. If we are past the point of peak and oil production is going into decline, then the demands of human population cant be met. Without a solution or scientific breakthrough to replace oil and all of our everyday uses of it, we face something called 'die off.'
Its kind of natures way of population control. I'm not evil, I certianly wish this wasnt true.
moonsugar1 6 months ago
Do you believe it's ethical to chain a baby in a cage and force it to live in a sheltered, immobile prison for it's early life so we can kill it and enjoy it's tender meat?
Of course not, but we do it to make veal and have been for a long time. It's really easy to make things sound horrible and inhuman when we describe them in the most grotesque, visceral way we can imagine. How about you lay out all the facts for people and simply let them decide for themselves?
note4note 6 months ago
@note4note You have lost all value for human beings. Seriously people! You are all scaring the shit out of me! You compare a human life to a cattle? Know one thing! We Christians believe that God created every human being in His own image and that He desires all to be saved and live with Him in innocence! If I did not hold to the theological conviction that all humans were made in the image of God, I would have all the reason to believe that you so called pro-choice people don't have souls.
ajpreus 6 months ago
@ajpreus How about you decide to make a rebuttal against abortion without bringing God into it? I didn't bring religion into this. All I asked was instead of everyone of you anti-abortion protestors screaming the same thing about shoving scissors into a fetus that you discuss the issue in full.
The only reason I used the veal metaphor was to show how vile you can make anything sound if you break it down into it's most base actions. You can make brain surgery sound vile in the same way.
note4note 6 months ago
@ajpreus I don't have a soul...neither do you, or any other human for that matter...
kpgpwi64 6 months ago 2
@kpgpwi64 Good to see some common sense on an otherwise ideologically brainwashed comments section.
JayJayAbels 6 months ago
@kpgpwi64 Well aren't you a billy badass for saying you don't have a soul. WOW MAN you're such a rebel. Fuck off faggot, you're nothing special. Fuck Bill Clinton by the way.
Problems123 6 months ago
@Problems123 No I don't think I'm a "billy bad ass rebel". Souls just don't exist, so calm down..You are just making your self look like an idiot if you are getting upset and starting to insult people just because they say souls don't exist..
kpgpwi64 6 months ago
@kpgpwi64 That makes you tough because you say you don't have a soul.
Problems123 6 months ago
@Problems123 Are you an idiot or something??
kpgpwi64 6 months ago
@kpgpwi64 Do you think you're a badass for making retarded statements such as "I don't have a soul"?
Problems123 6 months ago
@Problems123 Did you read my comment? or did that fly over your head along with your entire science class background? No, I don't think I'm a "badass" for stating facts. What next, are you going to mock me and call me a badass retard because I also deny the existence of leprechauns??
kpgpwi64 6 months ago
@kpgpwi64 How is you're statement a fact if it hasn't been proven?
Problems123 6 months ago
@Problems123 The soul hasn't been proven, consciousness has.. You claim you have a soul, where did you get this idea of a soul from? Besides, the burden of proof is on you, the maker of the claim, the claim that you have a magical, unseen force behind your life and it lives on after you die, or whatever nonsense you believe in.. But don't get distracted from the question, where did you get the idea of a soul from? and where is your proof?
kpgpwi64 6 months ago
@kpgpwi64 Where's your proof that it doesn't exist, gothic nerd?
Problems123 6 months ago
@Problems123 "Gothic nerd"?? you are seriously judgemental and quite frankly, a fucking dumbass... You evaded my question still, and then resorted back to name calling for lack of a descent retort. The lack of proof of a soul is the proof it doesn't exist. It's never been proven or observed. It is the product of myths and fairy tales. Apparently you didn't understand "burden of proof" so i'll explain. If I told you I had an invisible unicorn, you would tell me to prove it, because I made the
kpgpwi64 6 months ago
@Problems123 (cont.) claim, I wouldn't ask you to disprove my invisible unicorn...get it now? idiot?
kpgpwi64 6 months ago
@kpgpwi64 u mad?
Problems123 6 months ago
@Problems123 No, you are just a bad troll. Go back to ridding your girl skate boards and fail at the rest of your life...I'm sorry I couldn't get through to you, apparently the "soul" is blocking off all common sense and logic to your brain.. You give a bad name to christians mate, once reasoning is shown to you, you turn in to a troll, asking silly meme questions like "u mad?" because you can come up with a descent, logical response match any of your silly claims. It's time you grow up...
kpgpwi64 6 months ago
@kpgpwi64 rage more please, gothic emo nerd who thinks he doesnt have a soul.
Problems123 6 months ago
@Problems123 Yeah, I know I don't have a soul, You don't either, neither does any human for that matter. That was my first comment. That was the only comment I needed.. You need more practise.
kpgpwi64 6 months ago
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@kpgpwi64 Everyone has a soul, umad?
Problems123 6 months ago
@ajpreus No one cares what you believe. Keep your insane beliefs to yourself.
There is no such thing as a "soul". That's superstitious nonsense. Like your "god".
JayJayAbels 6 months ago
Wow! Irrational wicked people who actually think it's ok to kill babies! I can't believe that I live in this generation! How insane! Are you a real person? Because if you are, you need help, because you are seriously screwed up.
ajpreus 6 months ago
@ajpreus so what do you think the punishment should be if a women gets an illegal abortion??
kpgpwi64 6 months ago
@ajpreus lmfao @ you extremists. "it's ok to kill babies" <--- no it's not okay to murder anyone. But if a women chooses not to have a baby - that is HER choice... not yours. It is NOT your choice... at all. It's her body and her right. What you do to your body is your own business. Keep your nose and "beliefs" out of others. And btw go read a fuckin' book.
JayJayAbels 6 months ago 2
How can i be a Pro-Lifer?
HowardSternn 6 months ago
Go Mr Clinton!
jadedrakerider 6 months ago
Pro-abortion? ahahahaha.
Abortion is terrible, but so are the effects of chemotherapy drugs. Just because I don't want chemotherapy to be illegal doesn't mean I'm in favour of chemotherapy every instance a tumour shows up.
It is by following the logic of this analogy by which I find that abortion is at times necessary.
Also: Was this video recorded with a calculator or a toaster?
amitabho123 6 months ago
Bill Clinton was and is a lying scumbag. I think he called Casey Anthony last week to congratulate her on her late term abortion.
michealsoft72 6 months ago
@michealsoft72 you probably have a mullet dont you?
imfamoussas 6 months ago
@imfamoussas nah, you're thinking about your mother. You know the one who decided to carry you to term, instead of having a doctor suck your brains out in the womb or take a pair of sicssors to your neck.
michealsoft72 6 months ago