Sea the Stars is a top 3 horse all time in Europe, and he only ran 9 races. With no real injury problems. Does that mean his 2000 Guineas/Derby/Arc Treble are worth nothing?. No different with Ghostzapper, he won the most important races from 7f up to 10f. Vosburgh, Met Mile, Woodward and Breeders Cup Classic. He is a top 5 North American horse of all time no doubt, behind Secretariat, Dr.Fager, Man O war , and Spectacular Bid. Yes even better then TC winners Seattle Slew, and Affirmed IMO
i feel as if this horse was a 'hairline fracture injury' away from being an automatic mention whenever refering to the 'greatests' of all time... or at least an easy top 5... i just think it's a shame he's he's not in the bloodhorse top 100 probably due to only 11 races... but GEEZ!!.. he won 9 and set multiple records, including stakes records (BCC)
He had the speed of Dr. Fager but not his durability. Had Ghostzapper been able to run twice as many races without loss of form, you're talking about one of the 10 greatest horses of all time.
@DanielSong39 Well there's the rub isn't it? How can you compare Ghostzapper with, say, Damascus who as a 3 year old ran more races in the span of 5 months than Ghostzapper ran in his entire career. Ghostzapper was a superb, but fragile horse whose handlers picked their spots, only running him when he was in top shape. Damascus ran all the time, whether well or ill, & still managed to defeat two of the all time greats & win at virtually every distance from 6F to 2 miles -- as a 3 yr old.
sugarpuppy, there is NO time record..and i mean NONE, standing today, that will be broken by 5 seconds. All of the track/stakes records standing today at all distances are at near-peak time. They will only be broken by small intervals at a time.
What? ... I'm pretty sure he did break a record by five seconds, I've heard it from several sources. That post was a year ago, I've had the time to reasearch it.
If I'm wrong, please show me where you've gotten your information.
A complete freak, and a horse that I wished I had seen run. As brilliant a racehorse as there ever was. My dream race would be between the 'Zapper & Dr. Fager at 1 &1/16th.
@carlykaiser first, THANX for the vids u post. zapp is my favrt. u plan on any other vids for him? LUV how u did this one, music is PERFECT! for the decade some of the film is fuzzy, aware that's often out of your control. any chance u'd do another? cuz i've always enjoyed your style of vids.IMO zapp 3rd best of all time behind S and Man despite just 11 races, imo quiet career cuz in&out due to injuries.
short career = "unnoticed" and "overlooked" but this monster should never be underrated
I really appreciate your videos. Always interesting, with excellent music choices. I don't know anything about this horse. Hope you have more information on him. Cheers.
@melc1949 this horse was on track to S and Man type greatness if not retiring from injury... look at entire Vosburgh Stakes race, it's the race shown from 1:10 - 1:22 in this video... he's in last place apprx 12-15 lengths off lead until stretch cuz he didn't chase... and that BCC he won in 2004 is still the stakes record
@caliwaters88 freak doesn't even begin to describe what this phenom showed! If he only ran eleven times and we dare to suggest that he is the fastest ever, can you imagine if he ran six more races?? His critics can only say he ran few races but the real question is if Secretariat had Zapper's health issues and ran only eleven races would he be absent from bloodhorse top 100 horses and ignored like Zapper or mean that he was any less talented??
His critics like to say he ran only eleven races and needed long periods to recover thus can't be considered great! My question is ...what is the race quota to be considered great? Would Secretariat or Dr. Fager run as often as they did with the injuries Zapper had? I doubt it! Also his critics are yet to indicate which horse would have prevented him from repeating his flawless 2004 campaign!! In my opinion beating the same horses five more times isn't necessary for me to consider him great!!
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Sea the Stars is a top 3 horse all time in Europe, and he only ran 9 races. With no real injury problems. Does that mean his 2000 Guineas/Derby/Arc Treble are worth nothing?. No different with Ghostzapper, he won the most important races from 7f up to 10f. Vosburgh, Met Mile, Woodward and Breeders Cup Classic. He is a top 5 North American horse of all time no doubt, behind Secretariat, Dr.Fager, Man O war , and Spectacular Bid. Yes even better then TC winners Seattle Slew, and Affirmed IMO
TicinoParadise 2 weeks ago
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TicinoParadise 2 weeks ago
I LOVE this horse!
gobabygirlzen 8 months ago
i feel as if this horse was a 'hairline fracture injury' away from being an automatic mention whenever refering to the 'greatests' of all time... or at least an easy top 5... i just think it's a shame he's he's not in the bloodhorse top 100 probably due to only 11 races... but GEEZ!!.. he won 9 and set multiple records, including stakes records (BCC)
caliwaters88 8 months ago
Nice little vid on that speed demon of a horse. The music goes well with the Zapper's demolitions!
liszt1186 11 months ago
He had the speed of Dr. Fager but not his durability. Had Ghostzapper been able to run twice as many races without loss of form, you're talking about one of the 10 greatest horses of all time.
DanielSong39 2 years ago 4
@DanielSong39 Well there's the rub isn't it? How can you compare Ghostzapper with, say, Damascus who as a 3 year old ran more races in the span of 5 months than Ghostzapper ran in his entire career. Ghostzapper was a superb, but fragile horse whose handlers picked their spots, only running him when he was in top shape. Damascus ran all the time, whether well or ill, & still managed to defeat two of the all time greats & win at virtually every distance from 6F to 2 miles -- as a 3 yr old.
sl7293 9 months ago
@DanielSong39 i would go as far as one of the top 5 of all time based on your comment
rsbarrett4991 1 month ago
I heard on TVG that Ghostzapper broke a record by five seconds? Is that true? O.O
sugarpuppy137 3 years ago
sugarpuppy, there is NO time record..and i mean NONE, standing today, that will be broken by 5 seconds. All of the track/stakes records standing today at all distances are at near-peak time. They will only be broken by small intervals at a time.
EtceteraEtceteraa 2 years ago
What? ... I'm pretty sure he did break a record by five seconds, I've heard it from several sources. That post was a year ago, I've had the time to reasearch it.
If I'm wrong, please show me where you've gotten your information.
sugarpuppy137 2 years ago
You know what, my mistake. He broke the 10 furlong record at Lone Star Park by more than 5 seconds in the Breeders Cup Classic. You're right.
" " (dot) bloodhorse (dot) com/horse-racing/articles/25159/breeders-cup-by-the-numbers
(the Ghostzapper paragraph)
EtceteraEtceteraa 2 years ago
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EtceteraEtceteraa 2 years ago
Hey it's no problem, I thought it was pretty unbelieveable too when I first heard about it.
sugarpuppy137 2 years ago
*small increments.
EtceteraEtceteraa 2 years ago
A complete freak, and a horse that I wished I had seen run. As brilliant a racehorse as there ever was. My dream race would be between the 'Zapper & Dr. Fager at 1 &1/16th.
all66books 3 years ago
Awesome! Truely a fast one. I just wish he hadn't gotten hurt. Did you hear about Nashoba's Key? She died in a freak accident :(
Rock8mywork789 3 years ago
One of my favorites, and one of the most talented horses of all time. Thank you!
kentuckyrosesinmay 3 years ago 2
Just like Daddy...lol
on that note, I hope Colonel John does just like daddy in the Kentucky Derby.
ChoKolateNUPE 3 years ago
Tiznow didn't run in the Derby.
carlykaiser 3 years ago
Tiznow won his first of two BC CLASSICs at Churchill
ChoKolateNUPE 3 years ago
He won the second one. And he still didn't run in the Derby
carlykaiser 3 years ago
you are starting to loose me here....
the point is 1) 11/4/2000 Tiznow won the 1st of 2 Back To Back Classics over Churchill Down's surface going 10F.
When I said Colonel John would be just like his sire, I meant he would win at 10F over Churchill surface...
Is that clear now?
ChoKolateNUPE 3 years ago
@carlykaiser first, THANX for the vids u post. zapp is my favrt. u plan on any other vids for him? LUV how u did this one, music is PERFECT! for the decade some of the film is fuzzy, aware that's often out of your control. any chance u'd do another? cuz i've always enjoyed your style of vids.IMO zapp 3rd best of all time behind S and Man despite just 11 races, imo quiet career cuz in&out due to injuries.
short career = "unnoticed" and "overlooked" but this monster should never be underrated
caliwaters88 2 months ago
It was such a shame when he got injured in 2005 because it looked like he was going to stamp himself as one of the greats
Briano696969 3 years ago 2
Great job,he deserves a video this nice!
5\5
horseyaddicted 3 years ago
cool!
beargirl25 3 years ago
Well I just googled him, so I'm catching up.
melc1949 3 years ago
I really appreciate your videos. Always interesting, with excellent music choices. I don't know anything about this horse. Hope you have more information on him. Cheers.
melc1949 3 years ago
Seriously? He only had 4 starts in 2004, but still won the Breeders' Cup Classic, and Horse of the Year honors.
carlykaiser 3 years ago
@melc1949 this horse was on track to S and Man type greatness if not retiring from injury... look at entire Vosburgh Stakes race, it's the race shown from 1:10 - 1:22 in this video... he's in last place apprx 12-15 lengths off lead until stretch cuz he didn't chase... and that BCC he won in 2004 is still the stakes record
caliwaters88 2 months ago
@caliwaters88 freak doesn't even begin to describe what this phenom showed! If he only ran eleven times and we dare to suggest that he is the fastest ever, can you imagine if he ran six more races?? His critics can only say he ran few races but the real question is if Secretariat had Zapper's health issues and ran only eleven races would he be absent from bloodhorse top 100 horses and ignored like Zapper or mean that he was any less talented??
ghostzzapper 1 month ago
His critics like to say he ran only eleven races and needed long periods to recover thus can't be considered great! My question is ...what is the race quota to be considered great? Would Secretariat or Dr. Fager run as often as they did with the injuries Zapper had? I doubt it! Also his critics are yet to indicate which horse would have prevented him from repeating his flawless 2004 campaign!! In my opinion beating the same horses five more times isn't necessary for me to consider him great!!
ghostzzapper 1 month ago