I'm a bit sick of the whole urban legend thing... there was no Seaman Staines, Master Bates and the cabin boy was called TOM if you listen. It was just a stupid rumour which circulated and the makers successfully sued. This is a great children's cartoon
What? No rear-Admiral Analjizz on the poop deck? No Mistress Cocksnot? No Petty officer Uphillgardener? Where's Third officer Spunkytrousers in the captain's mess? And I don't see Deckhand Jobs or Or Pirate captain Buggermyanus.
Or did I just MAKE THOSE NAMES UP and PRETENDED I REMEMBERED THEM..?
seamen stains ,captain pugwash ,master bates(masturbates) ,captain willy get my jist there is something about 3-5 year olds watching this that troubles me
The Captain DID sound like he was saying Master Bate sometimes when I watched the show when I was about eight or nine - I was in my mid-twenties when I first heard of Seamen Staines and Roger the Cabin Boy, although the urban myth probably stems from Master Mate/Bate in conjunction with Willy.
@Joeskint - I agree that his pronounciation sometimes sounded like "Master Bate"...this is most apparent in the ep Fair Exchange, near the end, which can also be found on YT.
Check out the ep "Fair Exchange", which can be found elsewhere on YT...near the end, the Captain says "I certainly did, Master Mate", but his pronounciation def doesn't help shed the urban legend, if you get my drift!
They really took the piss out of the naive censors in those days. Best laugh was at the end when they showed Pugwash along with Seamen Stain & Masterbates w#####g themselves in the pretence of a dance with a rye smile on their faces .
the sperm whale bumbed into the poop deck hard, tossing the seamen over board, foaming at the mouth they paddled in the rough sea. The Rear Admiral was first back on deck, where roger the cabin boy had slipped, bent double on the wet deck. The captain explained; were in for a rough night boys ... what?
One of my favourite TV shows when i was a kid (along with Thunderbirds and The Banana Splits). Classic at the time and no rudeness at all that i remember and as mentioned even if there had been, kids would not have understood the adult 'toilet' humour anyway. Most of us were pretty innocent back in those days.
I'm glad these stories were not true, I loved Captain Pugwash, my parents never let me watch anything rude as a child, (I was the only one in my class who wasn't allowed to see Grease back then). I was allowed to watch captain Pugwash and I never heard any of the rude names some people bandied about for a while, I never believed it anyway and I'm glad it's creator sued the press.
All the kids who read the comics and saw the TV shows would of grown up by the 1991 trial, it was just the newspapers making a joke in bad taste in the end.
The urban myth about this has been going on for years and years ......but thats all it is an urban myth , even when some people see the evidence in front of them they are still too ignorant to accept this , I wish people would look at the facts instead of continuing with this nonsense......its pathetic !!
So many grumpy old men commenting on this video. Congratulations, you found something vaguely offensive! Welcome to the internet! Your complimentary strippers and fruit basket will arrive at your house shortly.
lhollisryan is quite right - I remember having a book about kid's TV with a correction pasted in about "Seaman Staines" etc. Trouble is, it's a good story, and what is it they say - "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes".
It wasn't banned, it was on for over 50 years and in no episode were those characters mentioned, He says "master mate" in this episode, turn your volumes up!
Urban myth or not, (which it is), they're still pirates all the same, and there's no denying that innuendo! lol... To be honest, I despised this cartoon as much as Ivor The Engine, Rhubarb and Custard, and Paddington Bear. Everything else before the BBC News was just either totally spiffing, or enough to get me through until the Crispy Pancakes and Angel Delight were on the table. Hahaha..
Reinforcing the myth that there were "characters" in Captain Pugwash, such as Master Bates, Seaman Stains etc, in my reckoning, has kept the memory of this cartoon alive long after other, and maybe better quality toons have been consigned to the bin.
@fireblade95 um yeah ther is master bater does that sound dodgy and what about seaman staines dosnt that sound like semen stain. nd wat a bout the character called willy after all the other names thats hardly a coinsidence
@annabubbal because you and your mum spoke of it, it's now a fact lol, wonder what i'll talk to my mum about tonight. hmm maybe g w bush was a good president!! look it up, it's urban legend. i've a book on childrens cult classics, and the teens of this era made it into something it wasnt.
...although, after some research it seems he was called MASTER MATES and if you listen when they say it, it does sound a lot like Master BATES, maybe on purpose, but is not written so.
No Master Bates, No Seaman Staines. Not in any episode. Creator John Ryan won a libel case in the early eighties against the Sunday Correspondent newspaper. It is also believed that this Urban Myth originated with Richard Digance who was subject to a 25 year injunction against using references to the good Captain in his act. This expired in 2008. It was used by safe sex campaigners in Portsmouth in the mid 90s for a time until they found out about the libel case.
thats not true! I have episodes on vhs which have Master Bates and Roger The Cabin Boy in! No Seaman Stains though....that one I believe is the urban myth.
you may want to go re-watch those as ihve every episode on vhs, and the cabin boys name was alwasy Tom, i used to be proud of the fact that I had the same name as the ony smart one on the show as a kid.
Total shite. The Cartoon is British, The stories came from a british comic book (the eagle) the producer was british, The cartoons shows were made in Britain and "Pugwash" is a town in Nova Scotia. You are either a compulsive liar or an idiot.
I mean if you have the right ideas in your head could make sports commentary dirty. its all grabbing balls and wrestling people to the ground and shooting one in the bottom corner.
And, perhaps the "granddaughter" can shed some light on why one of the characters would be called "Master Mate"? On a ship, the only "master" is the captain. There is no "master mate".
R.I.P John you gave so many children happiness and i'll never forget the things you did for me you even gave me an original midge used on the tv show mary mungo & midge and so many other things you were a true gentleman
What a great TV series, I saw some of John Ryan's drawings in an art gallery in Rye some years ago but couldn't afford any. Wish I'd bought one now, they were great.
I saw him in person as a child he did a live demo aon how the show was made and even bought the original card puppets i guess you could callthem alogn, and he signed my books.
I am John Ryan's grand-daughter and I can assure you that the names listed below do not appear in anything written by my grandfather. In fact my grandfather won libel damages in 1991 from two newspapers for printing these stories. Please get your facts right and consider the feelings of my family when commenting on my grandfather's work.
Can i speak candidly with you right now? What your grandfather did is etched in my mind as one of the greatest childrens programs ever made, it's up there with Bagpuss, Trumpton, The Clangers, Ivor the Engine et all. I'm so sorry he has died, My own heart shall miss him, but not on the same painful level as you shall. But please, let these guys have their own urban myths please them...It's their way of coping
Please accept my deepest sympathies, i always admired Mr Ryans work, on my channel i have posted some episodes of Mary Mungo and Midge, which was always my favourite. He will always be remembered through his timeless work.
Very sad to hear of your grandfather's passing. I adored his work in the Eagle comic where Pugwash first appeared. But it was his Harris Tweed - Special Agent that really captured me. Each panel frame was a delight to read, it was almost like reading an Ealing comedy in strip form. Loved his work. And boo-hiss to the numbskulls that still fall for this urban myth, more the fool them for not being educated in the real world. Thank you John. RIP
Everyone loves Captain Pugwash and im trying to find a way to download them to mobile phones so we can take Captain Pugwash with around in world. We will stall never forgot Captain Pugwash and also wonderful author who created Captain Pugwash to bring world to entrain.
Firstly, I do not believe for one second that you are who you say you are, however I shall respond as if you are.
How is it offensive to suggest such a thing? I think that it takes a genius to conceal such blatant innuendos within a children's tv show, and go undetected for so many years - i commend him. Secondly - why would he be named 'master' then - the only master on the ship is the captain, so the only reason this title has been assigned is to create this innuendo.
@lhollisryan Well said, I get sick of hearing the urban myths that have grown up around this show. I believe that's mainly what stops the repeats of it now?
@lhollisryan Please correct me if i am wrong but i read somewhere Seaman Stains, Master Bates and Roger the Cabin Boy actually starred in a pilot episode for the show. Because it was a pilot or proof of concept it was never shown on tv. just wondering whether or not this is true. thanks
@lhollisryan You know that this program would be unheard of today without it. It was this urban myth which created enough publicity for it to return in 1997. Also the whole Master Mate thing. Yes his name was MATE but the character was known to misprounce things. If your Grandad didnt consider the innuedo at any point as a possibility, he was a fucking idiot. The rest was of course just a myth.
Not to sound too rude but you are dillusional if you think that "Roger the cabin boy, Master Bate or Seaman Stains" do not have other connotations or some type of sexual innuendo. Although Captain Pugwash isn't the only one, you should seen an episode of Rainbow! It would make your eyes water, haha!
That was done as a one off never for release by the cast.
Every christmas there was a competition at the BBC to see who could come up with the most risqué out take. This was the Rainbow entry - it was never aired.
@frankdertank1984 There was no "Roger the Cabin Boy" (it was Tom the Cabin Boy), there was no Master Bates (it was Master Mate) and no Seaman Stains. You really shouldn't be so gullible. And as for the Rainbow episode, that was done for an ITV staff Christmas party and was never aired.
Oh really? Well i beg to differ. And i don't think the word "gullible" is relevant. You are implying i heard this from someone else or read it somewhere else but you are wrong. I saw this cartoon myself as a child, teenager and adult. You can't tell someone the didn't hear something when they cleary HEARD it now can you. If you want to live in your little sheltered bubble then go ahead. Mater Bates and Roger The Cabinboy are REAL. Live and let live
@frankdertank1984 Ok, I'll change "gullible" to "deluded". I also saw the cartoon as a child and adult. I also have the books from when I was a child. It is TOM the cabin boy, and Master MATE. How do you explain the creator of Captain Pugwash sueing over this and winning?
@frankdertank1984 And why don't you watch the video (the one we're commenting on)? He clearly says Master Mate and calls the cabin boy Tom, not Roger. Yes, it would have been hilarious if they had been using rude names all these years, but it just isn't true. You're just hearing what you want to hear.
For the record i think you're the deluded one, and of course it doesn't say that in the books. You can get away with it on tv with poor accoustics and opinions on 'who heard what' but i doubt anyone is dumb enough to write it in text form. And as for this clip, again the accoustics are terrible and not to mention it's an isolated example.
@frankdertank1984 I'm the one you actually looks at the evidence and you say I'm deluded. Poor acoustics? So Tom sounds like Roger? Yes, very similar words, aren't they? You still haven't explained how the creator John Ryan won his libel case if it really was true. Don't tell me, the tapes have all be retrospectively changed! It's the great Captain Pugwash conspiracy!!
You think what you think, i think what i think, i can live and let live and my opinion isn't the be all and end all just as yours isn't. You don't have the manuscripts, rough copies or original sound booth recordings etc to show and my opinion won't be changed unless i did in fact see/hear those and even then i'd look/listen carefully. And don't even get me started on the history of the justice of lawsuits, i'm not very naive. No more conclusive than a witch hunt IMO
You believe what you want i don't want to sully your childhood memories any more, hahaha. God, get a life and a sense of humour will you. Don't take life too seriously because life doesn't take you seriously.
@skoppeindiepoes It is rather stupid and actually very offensive to equate saying that Captain Pugwash characters didn't have rude names with denying that 6 million jews were murdered.
@lhollisryan .....you must have led a very sheltered life then mrs - it's full of inuendo's, maybe your grandfather should have considered the feelings of young children!
@7in7in7in The feelings of young children you say... Innuendo is only understandable, if you have knowledge in the first place of what the innuendo is implying, so it would go right over a childs head. If it didn't, then the child found out the innuendo's meaning prior to hearing any such material. So the script would have had very little bearing on a childs mind.
Not true the whole thing is urban legend, and despite him getting a thumbs down, that guy is clearly correct, if you have ears, he clearly says Master Mate.
It's not urban legend - officially it was 'master mate' etc. , but it was written such that the actors could mispronounce the names, hoping that it would go unnoticed. There was an article about it somewhere where one of the voice actors admits to it.
Besides, why is everyone so peturbed at this idea? - it's quirky and funny.
his name is master bates and there was a character roger the cabin boy too. Only in britain could you have a kids cartoon with hidden naughty jokes for the adults.
actually I've just checked wikipedia, its actually master mates and tom the cabin boy. Thought I'd better correct myself before someone else does and makes me look more stupid. :-)
Yeah, but at the time they were always called the rude names, as an inside joke from the voice actors. When other people latched onto this, they published them with different names, and claimed it all to be a rumour, but we can clearly hear at 0:34 what he calls him.
I'm a bit sick of the whole urban legend thing... there was no Seaman Staines, Master Bates and the cabin boy was called TOM if you listen. It was just a stupid rumour which circulated and the makers successfully sued. This is a great children's cartoon
Jabberwoxx 1 week ago
Master bates
Ku5hPlays 2 weeks ago
@Ku5hPlays there was also a seamen stains!!!
SweetLeftFoot1971 1 week ago
What? No rear-Admiral Analjizz on the poop deck? No Mistress Cocksnot? No Petty officer Uphillgardener? Where's Third officer Spunkytrousers in the captain's mess? And I don't see Deckhand Jobs or Or Pirate captain Buggermyanus.
Or did I just MAKE THOSE NAMES UP and PRETENDED I REMEMBERED THEM..?
geffel 1 month ago 2
seamen stains ,captain pugwash ,master bates(masturbates) ,captain willy get my jist there is something about 3-5 year olds watching this that troubles me
nathanblindt 1 month ago
@nathanblindt Are you fucking stupid?
raresambo 1 week ago
pugwash is an australian slang name for a BJ and all their names are gay how do u get away wiv puttin that on tv??? THATS SOME FUNNY SHIT!!
shiiiimawastebush 2 months ago
@shiiiimawastebush
Pugwash is NOT an Australian slang name for a blow job. Someone just made that up.
bairen2002 1 month ago
The Captain DID sound like he was saying Master Bate sometimes when I watched the show when I was about eight or nine - I was in my mid-twenties when I first heard of Seamen Staines and Roger the Cabin Boy, although the urban myth probably stems from Master Mate/Bate in conjunction with Willy.
Joeskint 2 months ago
@Joeskint - I agree that his pronounciation sometimes sounded like "Master Bate"...this is most apparent in the ep Fair Exchange, near the end, which can also be found on YT.
WhatsAYak 2 weeks ago
Master Bates :') ...I'm so childish
xharrieteyahx 3 months ago
@xharrieteyahx
lol
iamnotcoolandproud 1 month ago
the original peter griffin
HRHooChicken 3 months ago 2
Was master bates real or not? i always thought so but could have been wrong?
twister643 3 months ago
Check out the ep "Fair Exchange", which can be found elsewhere on YT...near the end, the Captain says "I certainly did, Master Mate", but his pronounciation def doesn't help shed the urban legend, if you get my drift!
WhatsAYak 4 months ago
They really took the piss out of the naive censors in those days. Best laugh was at the end when they showed Pugwash along with Seamen Stain & Masterbates w#####g themselves in the pretence of a dance with a rye smile on their faces .
ALBIONTYKE 4 months ago
PRESS 4 FOR THE MOST UNFORTUNATE NAME EVERRRR
yerdone4 4 months ago
South Park sure has changed a lot since the early years...
:D
Treblaine 4 months ago
0:34 masturbate.
Thingamajigs 4 months ago
this show use to scair me as a kid =(
MrRamsay8 5 months ago
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epoppinbazz 5 months ago
lol Mater Bates..
sammywolfram96 5 months ago
What a complete waste of my precious life.........
gazmagorical 6 months ago
I remember I thought the theme tune was great...ah, such good musical taste, even then ;P
Morthund 6 months ago
the sperm whale bumbed into the poop deck hard, tossing the seamen over board, foaming at the mouth they paddled in the rough sea. The Rear Admiral was first back on deck, where roger the cabin boy had slipped, bent double on the wet deck. The captain explained; were in for a rough night boys ... what?
johnfox3 6 months ago
what's long and hard and full of seamen
a boat.
UnionOfJack 7 months ago
@UnionOfJack a cock?
johnfox3 6 months ago
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JohnJillky 7 months ago
All BS made up by newspaper, got them well sued!
humeyboy 7 months ago 2
I'm wondering where people are getting "Seaman Staines" from, since there was no Seaman character in the show.
WhatsAYak 8 months ago
back when cartoons were good :') R.I.P 70s-90s
Preacherjonson 8 months ago
Very very nice. A lovely short story.
suenjim 8 months ago
its shit anyways
xrejectedxonex 9 months ago
Master Bates and Semen stains is classic
nigelwright7557 9 months ago
I just ike the tune!.
tony13a 9 months ago
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SupaayLoreaa329 10 months ago
I say, I say, I say...Errrrr (Faulters) what do I say-oh yes, RUN FOR IT!
Used to love this a a toddler. ah, the memorys
Giselle76502 10 months ago
Roger was the cabin boy who got a good 'Rogering' ( a euphemism for a gay ac t) ^_^ !
MrLinuxfanatik 10 months ago
lol.. Are people still banging on about the Urban Myth???
next people will be asking where Seaman Staines is...
Tom must surely sound like Roger.. lol
most of the conspiracy sayers arnt old enough to even remember this anyway.. Just Brats posting playground humor as fact..
TerrorTrooperM 11 months ago 18
@TerrorTrooperM well, where IS Seaman Staines?
tsartodd 2 months ago
@tsartodd
Made up by people who thought the show would never be seen again. Evidently this urban myth preceded the internet and youtube...
geffel 1 month ago
@TerrorTrooperM Well said
Jabberwoxx 1 week ago
He says Master Mate
dootsyd 11 months ago 2
Dont forget Seaman Staines
skaterant99 11 months ago
Dont forget Seaman Stain
skaterant99 11 months ago
This was quality childrens' TV when I was a child.
zefer14 11 months ago 2
He talks to Master bate in this clip shown here, at 0.35. Of course it is, there is nothing else it can be.
thatrabbitvideo 11 months ago
so thats why i'm so dirty minded!
andrewcul 11 months ago
I still don't know where people are getting "Roger" from...@ 1:12, the Captain clearly says "what do I say, Tom?".
WhatsAYak 1 year ago 2
That guy is called Master Bate.
I hear it.
leeham991 1 year ago
i swear the writer of this show must be russell brand!
scunnyboybenji 1 year ago
@scunnyboybenji Well before his time.
millertas 1 year ago
@scunnyboybenji No, the writer isn't a cunt.
eldospinks 1 year ago
Pugwash was such a pimp
freshasdida 1 year ago
I like how the jokes in this aren't actually funny but the mistake is
MirrorKillMusic 1 year ago
good awl captain cockwash himself, hes a right awl divil he is...
johnnierotten1 1 year ago
One of my favourite TV shows when i was a kid (along with Thunderbirds and The Banana Splits). Classic at the time and no rudeness at all that i remember and as mentioned even if there had been, kids would not have understood the adult 'toilet' humour anyway. Most of us were pretty innocent back in those days.
nevermore300 1 year ago
I'm glad these stories were not true, I loved Captain Pugwash, my parents never let me watch anything rude as a child, (I was the only one in my class who wasn't allowed to see Grease back then). I was allowed to watch captain Pugwash and I never heard any of the rude names some people bandied about for a while, I never believed it anyway and I'm glad it's creator sued the press.
Jaqshit 1 year ago
so good
SEQUENCEEE 1 year ago
All the kids who read the comics and saw the TV shows would of grown up by the 1991 trial, it was just the newspapers making a joke in bad taste in the end.
dcikaruga 1 year ago
The urban myth about this has been going on for years and years ......but thats all it is an urban myth , even when some people see the evidence in front of them they are still too ignorant to accept this , I wish people would look at the facts instead of continuing with this nonsense......its pathetic !!
Muirton66 1 year ago
Masturbates.
Iwonderwotsfordinner 1 year ago
well its funny beacause all accept 4 pugwash and tom are all rude just a couple of hippies having a laugh at society
jokerclipkid 1 year ago
So many grumpy old men commenting on this video. Congratulations, you found something vaguely offensive! Welcome to the internet! Your complimentary strippers and fruit basket will arrive at your house shortly.
gorgack2000 1 year ago 36
@gorgack2000 Scum!
borgduck 11 months ago
lhollisryan is quite right - I remember having a book about kid's TV with a correction pasted in about "Seaman Staines" etc. Trouble is, it's a good story, and what is it they say - "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes".
danwelch 1 year ago
eeeer! This is the internet. Don't look if you get that easily offended.
sasboothby 1 year ago
this is supose to be rude
hemlei 1 year ago
All urban myth.......
In the same vein - bear a thought on the idea of 'Muffin the mule' now that's illegal
ndmmorgan 1 year ago
Id be scared to watch this... actually i am scared
DeJay323 1 year ago
" I say, stop pushing there!" haha
papersplease 1 year ago
theres also seamen stains
knightyman8000 1 year ago
Why is the grand-daughter getting all upset? Most people over three know it's an urban myth.
hearditman 1 year ago
and there is roger the cabin boy. if your an adult youd understand what it means
TheWarning230 1 year ago
It wasn't banned, it was on for over 50 years and in no episode were those characters mentioned, He says "master mate" in this episode, turn your volumes up!
ThePeterhorse 1 year ago
Good lord, that shitty animation. Thank god for the Koreans.
Hoopermazing 1 year ago
the reason its banned now is because..
Was 2 pirates were called
Captain Seaman
And
Master bator !
RyanRandomRandomRyan 1 year ago
master bate lol
omgimapure1 1 year ago
@omgimapure1 its Master MATE,and this is an old Urban Myth thats been around for YEARS......
Foolishpleazure 1 year ago
Urban myth or not, (which it is), they're still pirates all the same, and there's no denying that innuendo! lol... To be honest, I despised this cartoon as much as Ivor The Engine, Rhubarb and Custard, and Paddington Bear. Everything else before the BBC News was just either totally spiffing, or enough to get me through until the Crispy Pancakes and Angel Delight were on the table. Hahaha..
trikespotter 1 year ago
mmmm semen stains
thekidsatno80 1 year ago
Ihollisryan get over yourself its just a bit o fun
icecatblue 1 year ago
Reinforcing the myth that there were "characters" in Captain Pugwash, such as Master Bates, Seaman Stains etc, in my reckoning, has kept the memory of this cartoon alive long after other, and maybe better quality toons have been consigned to the bin.
laserranger1 1 year ago
does anyone fancy a row over a load of old pointless shit?
bobbylulla 1 year ago
Way to go; I remember no such bollocks in Pugwash, it was all made up by prurient people later.
(oh, yeah, like the press)
IshmaelSkyes 1 year ago
master bates and willy :L
Daryll31 1 year ago
Adult humour in Childrens TV slot..loved it !!
carefulimdangerous 1 year ago 2
and wayanca
YOGIBEARSpicnic 1 year ago
The cabin boy was called Jim.
digiman47 2 years ago
Was it? I thought he was called the fisher men's friend.
thelearner60 2 years ago
He wa called Tom, is said in the episode :p.
tgnrogue 1 year ago
Must be right then if yer Mum says so
digiman47 2 years ago
loved this.......
mignonhenne 2 years ago
how is roger the cabin boy offensive? haha
FeelMyCock 2 years ago
because it suggests "ROGERING" the cabin boy :L
flash9021 2 years ago
roger can mean fuck in the ass, lol!
wikeewoo 1 year ago 2
There was a Seaman staines in the first series,but the name was dropped after complaints.
trelcious 2 years ago
actually ...there is no sexual innuendo at all , its just an urban legend! lol! google it!
fireblade95 2 years ago
they are unlikely to admit it, are they?
mattysavage 2 years ago
@fireblade95 um yeah ther is master bater does that sound dodgy and what about seaman staines dosnt that sound like semen stain. nd wat a bout the character called willy after all the other names thats hardly a coinsidence
oliwalli 2 years ago
rubbish, Master Mates, barnabus, Willy, short form of Wilaim, and Tom was the cabin There was never a seaman anything.
tgnrogue 1 year ago
theres none of that...
bender2o 1 year ago
lol it is Master Bates cuz i was talking about it with my mum last night =P
annabubbal 2 years ago 2
@annabubbal because you and your mum spoke of it, it's now a fact lol, wonder what i'll talk to my mum about tonight. hmm maybe g w bush was a good president!! look it up, it's urban legend. i've a book on childrens cult classics, and the teens of this era made it into something it wasnt.
PMK1002 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
isnt pugwash australian lingo for blowjob
psychotix123 2 years ago
yup, it is psychotix
darkslayer909 2 years ago
Ive asked australians that before and they looked at me funny and asked what the hell i was on about.
tgnrogue 1 year ago
soo many double entengres
BARRICADE10 2 years ago 2
...although, after some research it seems he was called MASTER MATES and if you listen when they say it, it does sound a lot like Master BATES, maybe on purpose, but is not written so.
greghell 2 years ago
No Master Bates, No Seaman Staines. Not in any episode. Creator John Ryan won a libel case in the early eighties against the Sunday Correspondent newspaper. It is also believed that this Urban Myth originated with Richard Digance who was subject to a 25 year injunction against using references to the good Captain in his act. This expired in 2008. It was used by safe sex campaigners in Portsmouth in the mid 90s for a time until they found out about the libel case.
Gilesfly 2 years ago 11
That because Captain Pugwash and Master Mate left Seaman Stains on Tom the cabin boys bed
pigsickasham 2 years ago 21
@pigsickasham i tohught he said Master Bate LOL
VICTORIAvampireMETAL 1 year ago
@pigsickasham lol @ 33-35 seconds in this clip it refares to him as masterbator
MrChrisdon 1 year ago
thats not true! I have episodes on vhs which have Master Bates and Roger The Cabin Boy in! No Seaman Stains though....that one I believe is the urban myth.
greghell 2 years ago 2
you may want to go re-watch those as ihve every episode on vhs, and the cabin boys name was alwasy Tom, i used to be proud of the fact that I had the same name as the ony smart one on the show as a kid.
tgnrogue 1 year ago
haha one episode aptain pugwash read roger the cabinn boy, master baites and seaman stains a story in bed...HAHAHA
Nintendo064 2 years ago
Master mate and WIlly... This could be taken very wrong...
jarv156 2 years ago 3
Master Bate actually. :P
namesRhard1 2 years ago
seaman sam.
master bates.
rodger the cabinboy.
Oh yeah cartoon came from austrailia.
Captain pugwash ( pugwash ) in australia is the sweat from ur bum.
took 23 years before the auzzies would let us know this also lol
THEmuppett 2 years ago
Total shite. The Cartoon is British, The stories came from a british comic book (the eagle) the producer was british, The cartoons shows were made in Britain and "Pugwash" is a town in Nova Scotia. You are either a compulsive liar or an idiot.
Czechmate1967 2 years ago
I agree the thinly disguised innuendos were genius,the oblique references to 'weapons' and 'making cocoa' etc are obviously of a sexual nature.
trelcious 2 years ago
I mean if you have the right ideas in your head could make sports commentary dirty. its all grabbing balls and wrestling people to the ground and shooting one in the bottom corner.
SomeIrishGuy19 2 years ago
actually there was only one voice actor and that was peter hawkins who died a few years ago
mrfosters1 2 years ago
And, perhaps the "granddaughter" can shed some light on why one of the characters would be called "Master Mate"? On a ship, the only "master" is the captain. There is no "master mate".
strewf 2 years ago
Master Mate could mean First Mate, i.e. second in command. And who says pirates need to follow standard naval ranks anyway? :)
darmokthegreen 2 years ago
(0:35) Clearly "masturbator".
strewf 2 years ago 3
R.I.P John you gave so many children happiness and i'll never forget the things you did for me you even gave me an original midge used on the tv show mary mungo & midge and so many other things you were a true gentleman
KELLYSWEBSITE 2 years ago 3
RIP John Ryan! Thank you for giving the world such wonderful humour
RickmalR 2 years ago
What a great TV series, I saw some of John Ryan's drawings in an art gallery in Rye some years ago but couldn't afford any. Wish I'd bought one now, they were great.
ipcress1066 2 years ago
I saw him in person as a child he did a live demo aon how the show was made and even bought the original card puppets i guess you could callthem alogn, and he signed my books.
tgnrogue 1 year ago
I am John Ryan's grand-daughter and I can assure you that the names listed below do not appear in anything written by my grandfather. In fact my grandfather won libel damages in 1991 from two newspapers for printing these stories. Please get your facts right and consider the feelings of my family when commenting on my grandfather's work.
lhollisryan 2 years ago 60
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pogsboo 2 years ago
Can i speak candidly with you right now? What your grandfather did is etched in my mind as one of the greatest childrens programs ever made, it's up there with Bagpuss, Trumpton, The Clangers, Ivor the Engine et all. I'm so sorry he has died, My own heart shall miss him, but not on the same painful level as you shall. But please, let these guys have their own urban myths please them...It's their way of coping
Allishaz 2 years ago
Please accept my deepest sympathies, i always admired Mr Ryans work, on my channel i have posted some episodes of Mary Mungo and Midge, which was always my favourite. He will always be remembered through his timeless work.
JAYROX1969 2 years ago
Very sad to hear of your grandfather's passing. I adored his work in the Eagle comic where Pugwash first appeared. But it was his Harris Tweed - Special Agent that really captured me. Each panel frame was a delight to read, it was almost like reading an Ealing comedy in strip form. Loved his work. And boo-hiss to the numbskulls that still fall for this urban myth, more the fool them for not being educated in the real world. Thank you John. RIP
Mekonta 2 years ago 2
Everyone loves Captain Pugwash and im trying to find a way to download them to mobile phones so we can take Captain Pugwash with around in world. We will stall never forgot Captain Pugwash and also wonderful author who created Captain Pugwash to bring world to entrain.
Thank you author.
CrazyComputerMan1 2 years ago
Firstly, I do not believe for one second that you are who you say you are, however I shall respond as if you are.
How is it offensive to suggest such a thing? I think that it takes a genius to conceal such blatant innuendos within a children's tv show, and go undetected for so many years - i commend him. Secondly - why would he be named 'master' then - the only master on the ship is the captain, so the only reason this title has been assigned is to create this innuendo.
AdRenaLinMMIX 2 years ago 3
@lhollisryan yeah we know its just a piss take.
nerdflanders8710 1 year ago
@lhollisryan Well said, I get sick of hearing the urban myths that have grown up around this show. I believe that's mainly what stops the repeats of it now?
BradBrassman 1 year ago 4
@lhollisryan Please correct me if i am wrong but i read somewhere Seaman Stains, Master Bates and Roger the Cabin Boy actually starred in a pilot episode for the show. Because it was a pilot or proof of concept it was never shown on tv. just wondering whether or not this is true. thanks
mrp175 1 year ago
@mrp175 As mentioned before, no, it's not. The people who started the room got sued and lost.
ClarkeMarek 1 year ago
@lhollisryan Props to your grandad, he made me laugh like a drain all thru my childhood.
JapStrangler 1 year ago
@lhollisryan
hoe
ibanezxiphos700 1 year ago
@lhollisryan You can clearly hear him say Master Bates, not Master Mates...
I know it isn't his actual name, but the cartoon isn't really making it easy to discern that.
RachmaninovDESU 1 year ago
@lhollisryan You know that this program would be unheard of today without it. It was this urban myth which created enough publicity for it to return in 1997. Also the whole Master Mate thing. Yes his name was MATE but the character was known to misprounce things. If your Grandad didnt consider the innuedo at any point as a possibility, he was a fucking idiot. The rest was of course just a myth.
acdcrock93 1 year ago 2
@lhollisryan youre grandfather is a dirty wee perv. LEG-END
Kharoner 1 year ago
@lhollisryan Bullshit.
MrNannerman 1 year ago
@lhollisryan
Not to sound too rude but you are dillusional if you think that "Roger the cabin boy, Master Bate or Seaman Stains" do not have other connotations or some type of sexual innuendo. Although Captain Pugwash isn't the only one, you should seen an episode of Rainbow! It would make your eyes water, haha!
frankdertank1984 1 year ago
@frankdertank1984 are you on about the 'twanger' one.
That was done as a one off never for release by the cast.
Every christmas there was a competition at the BBC to see who could come up with the most risqué out take. This was the Rainbow entry - it was never aired.
ndmmorgan 1 year ago
@frankdertank1984 There was no "Roger the Cabin Boy" (it was Tom the Cabin Boy), there was no Master Bates (it was Master Mate) and no Seaman Stains. You really shouldn't be so gullible. And as for the Rainbow episode, that was done for an ITV staff Christmas party and was never aired.
dominickearney 1 year ago 3
@dominickearney
Oh really? Well i beg to differ. And i don't think the word "gullible" is relevant. You are implying i heard this from someone else or read it somewhere else but you are wrong. I saw this cartoon myself as a child, teenager and adult. You can't tell someone the didn't hear something when they cleary HEARD it now can you. If you want to live in your little sheltered bubble then go ahead. Mater Bates and Roger The Cabinboy are REAL. Live and let live
frankdertank1984 1 year ago
@frankdertank1984 Ok, I'll change "gullible" to "deluded". I also saw the cartoon as a child and adult. I also have the books from when I was a child. It is TOM the cabin boy, and Master MATE. How do you explain the creator of Captain Pugwash sueing over this and winning?
dominickearney 1 year ago 2
@frankdertank1984 And why don't you watch the video (the one we're commenting on)? He clearly says Master Mate and calls the cabin boy Tom, not Roger. Yes, it would have been hilarious if they had been using rude names all these years, but it just isn't true. You're just hearing what you want to hear.
dominickearney 1 year ago 3
@dominickearney
For the record i think you're the deluded one, and of course it doesn't say that in the books. You can get away with it on tv with poor accoustics and opinions on 'who heard what' but i doubt anyone is dumb enough to write it in text form. And as for this clip, again the accoustics are terrible and not to mention it's an isolated example.
frankdertank1984 1 year ago
@frankdertank1984 I'm the one you actually looks at the evidence and you say I'm deluded. Poor acoustics? So Tom sounds like Roger? Yes, very similar words, aren't they? You still haven't explained how the creator John Ryan won his libel case if it really was true. Don't tell me, the tapes have all be retrospectively changed! It's the great Captain Pugwash conspiracy!!
dominickearney 1 year ago
@dominickearney
You think what you think, i think what i think, i can live and let live and my opinion isn't the be all and end all just as yours isn't. You don't have the manuscripts, rough copies or original sound booth recordings etc to show and my opinion won't be changed unless i did in fact see/hear those and even then i'd look/listen carefully. And don't even get me started on the history of the justice of lawsuits, i'm not very naive. No more conclusive than a witch hunt IMO
frankdertank1984 1 year ago
@dominickearney
You believe what you want i don't want to sully your childhood memories any more, hahaha. God, get a life and a sense of humour will you. Don't take life too seriously because life doesn't take you seriously.
Still a fan
Frankdertank1984
frankdertank1984 1 year ago
@dominickearney are you a holocaust denier as well?
skoppeindiepoes 10 months ago
@skoppeindiepoes It is rather stupid and actually very offensive to equate saying that Captain Pugwash characters didn't have rude names with denying that 6 million jews were murdered.
dominickearney 10 months ago
@lhollisryan
I tried to link to some sites backing you up, but you-tube wouldnt let me. The full story is out there, though for people who want to check
sallacia 1 year ago
@lhollisryan .....you must have led a very sheltered life then mrs - it's full of inuendo's, maybe your grandfather should have considered the feelings of young children!
7in7in7in 1 year ago
@7in7in7in The feelings of young children you say... Innuendo is only understandable, if you have knowledge in the first place of what the innuendo is implying, so it would go right over a childs head. If it didn't, then the child found out the innuendo's meaning prior to hearing any such material. So the script would have had very little bearing on a childs mind.
bladrunner6 1 year ago
@bladrunner6 You obviously don't have any children - either that or they don't ask questions!
7in7in7in 1 year ago
@lhollisryan but u have to admit the names are REALLY really funny
DjBl0W 1 year ago
@lhollisryan If I had a £1 for every account who "Claimed" to be related to the subject of discussion I wouldn't need to pay my bills for 10 years
Whilst I agree with your sentiments there's no need to lie about who you are to do it!
badbav33 1 year ago
So farewell then, John Ryan,
Creator of Pugwash, Prancelot and Mary, Mungo and Midge.
Cartoonist for the Catholic Herald
And
Author.
The Jester says
Nothing at all now.
And Tom is
Equally silent.
We are sad.
OriTheEep 2 years ago 3
Just read the news. So sad.
admanphoto 2 years ago 2
Sounds like Masturbater
welshstoner 2 years ago
Yes definately Master Mate.
MrsChunkston 2 years ago
Not true the whole thing is urban legend, and despite him getting a thumbs down, that guy is clearly correct, if you have ears, he clearly says Master Mate.
GrimLCorleone 2 years ago
It's not urban legend - officially it was 'master mate' etc. , but it was written such that the actors could mispronounce the names, hoping that it would go unnoticed. There was an article about it somewhere where one of the voice actors admits to it.
Besides, why is everyone so peturbed at this idea? - it's quirky and funny.
AdRenaLinMMIX 2 years ago
0:35 He definitely calls him "Master Baites"
AdRenaLinMMIX 2 years ago
his name is master bates and there was a character roger the cabin boy too. Only in britain could you have a kids cartoon with hidden naughty jokes for the adults.
lshannon41 2 years ago
actually I've just checked wikipedia, its actually master mates and tom the cabin boy. Thought I'd better correct myself before someone else does and makes me look more stupid. :-)
lshannon41 2 years ago 6
Yeah, but at the time they were always called the rude names, as an inside joke from the voice actors. When other people latched onto this, they published them with different names, and claimed it all to be a rumour, but we can clearly hear at 0:34 what he calls him.
AdRenaLinMMIX 2 years ago
Yeah we can cleary hear Master Mate. Anyone hearing Bates is clearly deaf.
GrimLCorleone 2 years ago 4
your sourse of info then?
Rubbish!
John Ryan NEVER once had these urban myth names, even when it was first published in 1950.
Mekonta 2 years ago
its not true-urban legend
ard9murc 2 years ago