Great 2 hear... the commerce clause is also related 2 much of the problems with credit cards & predatory lending... I have 2 agree. The 1942 decision was bad & it should of been challenged years ago.....
@dwhitmire49 Most Republicans have no interest in this issue or any other Constitutional issue because they are on a power trip just like Democrats. Ron Paul is one of the few Republicans that believes in a Consitutional Republic like the founding fathers. Most of the idiots in Congress love anything that smacks of big government!! We need to replace the idiots with true Constitutional candidates!!
@azbipod More or less correct, glad someone pointed it out. However, are you sure? Living on their land (the state's) is a privilege afforded to you by the state, just as driving on THEIR roads is a privilege granted to you by them.
Ya have the right to use public property for it's intended purpose?
Is not transportation the number one priority for any persuit happy or not? Your not moving your a dependent.
How can anyone think driving is a privilege. When you have a court problem unrelated to driving and they pull your license maybe you'll have a better understanding of the Marxist concept of 'Privilege'. But maybe not.
I have been using "reputable" health food stores for 40 yrs now, but thanks for the advice. There are, unfortunately, still somethings that "health food" cannot completely cure. And, equally unfortunately, I have been exposed to toxins due to a series of negligent landlords as well as having had a spouse who was exposed to AO in VN. I am sure your advice was well meant, but you assume far too much.
And, I have had experience in law suits, class action and individual.
I am a plaintiff on the lawsuit as well, and I am pissed that this administration has the audacity to even attempt to force people to have health care. They have no authority. Period.
Maybe come 2012 we can vote his sorry butt out and get the real american candidate in... RON PAUL!
@scikoolaid more likely Obama will resign very shortly. Obama is just a crooked attorney. Nixon resigned for much less. For me this is personal too. OBAMA AND HIS DHS JANET ARE INVOLVED WITH BANKING FRAUD OF RECORDS OF ME DECEASED. The paper trail on this is linked to the likely funding of Obamacare. See my website link on my channel about Insilco and Bank One in sec docs. My company of Zenadev used fraudulently. I am not dead just defrauded like the rest of us. This is really big. RESIGN OBAMA!
The arrogance of Obow and all dummycraps is beyond belief. They don't care about anyone but themselves and their power, which will likely be removed from them soon so we can start impeachment proceedings. But I have a feeling that these fools will start WWIII before then, and millions couldperish when it all blows up in their faces. Leave it to stupid dums to ruin everything.
I'm proud to say that I am on that list! I truly admire Van for his fortitude in addressing this nightmare shoved down the throat of the America people! I think our message is coming across loud and clear that 'they' will not get our country - we will not lay down and play dead. I truly believe that we will emerge as our Constitutional nation as strong as our Founders intended but a whole lot smarter ...
I am on the list also. Have been from the beginning. We don't even know who wrote the health care bill do we? Never have I ever heard of a bill being passed before it is read. I would not be willing to vote for something unknown.
Don't worry - we are on the side of the 'good guys' - live free or die! We have our children and grandchildren to fight for. I certainly hope that you do not get audited and if you have your paperword in order, no worries mate!
@DeathwingRules Don't worry too much, Van probably has a lawsuit waiting for the IRS eventually too. Even though my wife and I are firmly in the middle-class, our taxes have been audited for aprox. 6 out of the last 10 years. They like to hit the little guys the hardest!! But our day is coming when we finally take the country back to a Constitutional Republic!! Also a big hurray for some of the sheriffs across this country, who have become "OathKeepers"!!!
oh yeah, child labor, horrible factory conditions, the end of the american dream... great things were happening with monopolized america at the turn of the 20th century...
@littledebrare, I figured we'd be on the watch list if we signed on to the suit. But I don't care, I signed onto it months ago. And I think we have a very good case.
I did too Tucsonpersonified. I saw the video. I signed on to each an every law suit on the Repeal of Obamacare, including this one. None of the agents want to be the 'one' to be the 'messenger' that the BO is being sued!
So since 'someone' is interested, be assured that all of us who signed on as Plaintiffs are people of 'interest' also.
Even knowing that, I'd sign on as a Plaintiff again ... and again!
Seems every moron in the county is devising a way to get their political campaign off the ground and the buffoons at FOX “NEWS” (joke) are jumping to promote them. What a bunch of imbeciles! The Health Care Plan will save the middle class and we are happy for it! I am tired of funding the wealthy (tax breaks) and the poor (don't pay for care now). The MIDDLE CLASS is rising up and YOU thieves cannot stand that we are going to regulate you to make it harder for you to pilfer and rape us
@MarcellaLamb You should not promote class struggle with your "hate the wealthy" attitude. FYI, the top 5 percent of money earners in the USA pay 50% of taxes and the class envy whiners want them to pay even more. Having lived in Canada for 5 years I can tell you socialized medicine sucks there and Canada isn't even close to the massive welfare state of America. Add the Illegals to this Marxian policy and all will be buried in a heap of misery !
Marcella - google the HC plan and read it. You may be in for a surprise. Obamacare comes in and the middle class is gone. As for 'funding' the wealthy - I've never been hired for a job by the middle class, much less the poor. I've worked for wealthy people all my life and they work their asses off to get where they are & treated me well! BTW, who do you work for?
@MarcellaLamb My friend you are in for a rude awakening when "Uncle Sam" comes knocking on your "middle class" door asking for all kinds of new taxes and the Obamacare will be part of those taxes!! Health care ain't free now and it certainly won't be free under O-care either, it will just get more expensive!! By the way, stop watching Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC...They are simply "corporate mouthpieces"!!
@laurakbrown I joined the lawsuit too. BUT I know that my name is very controversial on the lawsuit because the Feds are involved in huge fraud against me linked to the Healthcare Bill farce.
There are fraudulent records of me deceased which have been done by the Arizona courts for DHS Janet Napolitano in partnership with Desert Jewel Properties.........tangled web of attorneys as high as Holder who are perpetrating banking fraud of the estate of me DEAD. hs
Finally HOPE!! Obama care is the most freedom killing bill in American history, it virtually gives Obama the license to kill innocent people. Death by government doctors. Marxists are really in to population control by mass murder, forced abortions and forced sterilization. SPREAD THIS VIDEO!
@ARGrandma1 What a bunch a bullshit! this is gonna fail. you can't repeal a law based on fear and bullshit. that's why most polls support health care because they're finding the fright-wing bullshit is being exposed for being fright-wing bullshit. before you go running to the Great Ol Propaganda website like Resseum or whatever it's called. can you another poll that rejects this law?
@ARGrandma1 Can you tell me the section of the Obamacare law that lets Obama kill innocent people, specifically? Like can you tell me the exact language in the bill.
Thank you Van! I am one of the 25,000 & have faith in your ability to shine the light on this travesty.
Reading a few comments indicate there are still people who make fun of the truth, & live in the fallacy. The fact that our country is going down the drain just doesn't ring a bell to people like LoryLandSkipper. Wonder how you'll like being a third world nation-better bone up on how people/ women are treated there.
Thank God FOX News tells the truth - not trash like mainstream media.
@LoryLandskipper This is a copy of the comment I recieved in my inbox. How sad!
''@ChataquaLazarus
Yes, we all have to face the same God when we die: A million-eyed monster with tentacles and spikes jetting out of it's arms who consumes planets and shits black holes! LORD DENOM SHOWS NO MERCY TO ANY LIVING CREATURE!
Child I am not a Hellfire and Brimstone believer, I am a Christain and my God is peace, joy and all things Good!
Yours sounds Islamic in nature of description. I'm so sorry!
Your probably not old enough to remember the early 70's and the Hell we went through as a Nation. In fact the hell lasted untill Reagan's 2nd term.
It's so funny your name LoryLandskipper is so much like B.Hussein Obama, are you related?
If it hadn't been for the SHAME of the family, and Hussein was actually raised in Kansas he wouldn't be president now. I come from that part of the country and would bet. The Elitist attitude was shown, well he would have been beaten MULATO
Finally we the people are waking up instead of letting "them" step all over us time after time,day after day!! Thats right my friend,they dont own us like they think they do and have no right making up their own laws like this hahahha they are corrupt!!!
Not happy w/ HC bill, but am not jumping on a bandwagon that has nothing to offer people w/o insurance and access to decent healthcare. The "issues" have become so intertwined that you cannot hack away at one w/o dealing with the others...declining jobs, service sector jobs going overseas, BP disaster, mortgage and banking catastrophes, GM bail out, 2 front war.....
As lead Plaintiff in this case I would like to thank everyone who has joined and shown their support for this important lawsuit. Thinking back when this unconstitutional bill was passed I felt helpless and defeated but I was told by Jenny Beth Martian we have lost a battle but not the war as we stood at 12AM in front of the capitol after it passed. Those words encouraged me to stand up as the first American to sue in hopes of making a difference.
Yep, you WERE just guessing, and you guessed WRONG.
Just guessing here, but maybe you just dismiss people like this whenever they don't share your opinion exactly. "You don't want to sue the government!? YOU TAKE GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS! BLAHHHH!"
Are ou really going to complain about me dismissing you after you do dismiss Van Irion because it was broadcast on FOX?
What is interesting here is that all networks are not running with this story - even if they believe he is a freak and the case has no merit, the fact that a case is moving forward against the POTUS and the Federal Gov. is news. Definitely bigger news than anything Lindsy Lohan could do.
So let's not complain about logical fallacies whilst relying upon them.
First - Just because you didn't read or see this someplace else, it doesn't mean other networks aren't running the story. This is something you have assumed obviously without research. I just did a simple Google News search, and the first article was written by CBS! So you're wrong there.
Second - you present another straw man. My contempt for the lawsuit is separate from my disdain for Fox News. Neither inherit from the other.
I did not give any money - I joined the lawsuit. And I'm not purchasing insurance in 2014 in any case, I already have ins. and when I lose it due to ObamaCare I will not get it again - no matter what this sham of a law says.
Additionally my comment was not that no other networks were covering it, but that they were not ALL covering it - which of course is a statement to what the media & much of society considers important.
Sorry, but you wrote it differently and it held a completely different meaning. "all networks are not running with this story" should have read "not all networks are running this story."
Anyways, as far as the lawsuit goes, I'll be keeping an eye on this, but I don't expect much. I have one of the Cadillac plans, so I am affected by the reform. I hope he can stir some shit up with this lawsuit lol
So what exactly is the point of this exchange? You make a comment, I respond, you accuse me of using logical fallacies to address your logical fallacies - not exactly a productive use of time.
Lets boil it down:
- I want to defend my liberty against an unconstitutional law.
- You say that is 'very sad and naive' & you have 'contempt' for it.
- You also have 'disdain' for an information outlet.
If we disagree on liberty then all else is irrelevant. Good day and enjoy serfdom.
Obviously you're incapable of a discussion with someone without making things up. I don't know if there's some sort of internal turmoil going on that won't let you converse with other people normally, or if you are well aware that you're doing it, but it's the reason for this exchange.
You keep saying that I'm calling the act of defending liberty naive, when you know that's not what I said at all. I've pointed this out to you already, so you're repeating this straw man. Good GOD
My best interest is the same as yours: I don't want my anger for ObamaCare to have me jump into a lawsuit that doesn't actually do anything, or worse, promotes an agenda that isn't being mentioned here.
Something tells me this Van guy isn't looking out for our best interests... But hey, it's Fox News, it's not like they would put someone like that on to mislead us, right?
This video and the comments posted are all very sad and naive.
This has been an issue long before it was covered on FOX or anywhere else. I am a named plaintiff on this case as well - there is nothing naive about defending liberty and the Constitution. It is sad, however, that we are at a point in history where we have to sue the President & federal government to protect liberty and the Constitution.
"there is nothing naive about defending liberty and the Constitution."
Brilliant straw man. Not only did you manage to twist what I said into something it never was, but you also managed to throw in a few key buzzwords that should appeal to any patriotic American. LOL
Hey I wonder how all those lawsuits against the Patriot Act went...
You stated a video and people discussing a the issue (defending liberty & the Constitution) were 'naive and sad'. by pointing out that there is nothing naive about such I am not using a straw man or any other logical fallacy.
My only goal is the defense of my liberty, and by extension the liberty of my fellow citizens.
People discussing the issue? I said the comments were naive, not the act of discussing the issue.
I'm all for discussing this issue, but if you gave this guy money in hopes of not having to purchase health insurance in 2014, then yes, THAT is naive.
Thanks btw for having such an admirable goal. You're very unique.
BTW, how ironic is it that you bring in yet ANOTHER straw man in order to defend your initial straw man?
"You stated a video and people discussing a the issue (defending liberty & the Constitution) were 'naive and sad'." <~That's a COMPLETE straw man. I never said that. Every single comment could be mindless dribble, but the comment is what's being attacked, not the act of making the comment and discussing the issues. See how you're trying to pull one over? You're fooling yourself
@LoryLandskipper since YOU WERE TOO LAZY to READ the HEALTH CARE LAW, you'll learn about Obamacare RATIONING the HARD WAY! And when that HAPPENS (and it will if YOU HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS) ......not all of the OBAMA KOOL AIDE in the WORLD will be able to HELP you continue to live in LA LA LAND!
This Would have a LOT more signers, IF they did NOT have to Put their Credit Card Info OUT there!!!! I am Probably Use a Small Line Card, That I keep for this purpose, But....EVERYONE needs to Figure out a WAY, 25,000 is NOT enough, and I KNOW There are MANY more than That out there that would LIKE to be on This!!!
Being from Tennessee, I signed up on day one...If anyone wishes to sign up now, you must contribute anywhere from $5 to $10 in order to show that you are not a troll or spy or joker...There were over 35,000 signers, now just a little over 25,000, this show you how many people were libtards/socialist or scared to follow through...
I am all for this, they need to add us to the lawsuit. I am so sick of Obama & Nancy that I can't wait for 2012. Thank you so much for sharing this video. I was watching it the other night when he was on Greta, but couldn't seem to locate it. Thanks so much for sharing this video and I am going to pass it on.
Every American should join in this lawsuit, I did, and proud to be a part of it. This is a way to send a message to Congress, the Administration and prayerfully to the Supreme Court. If you are a slave to the Democrats, you will soon learn, that they control when you eat, what you eat, how you eat, how much weight you must gain or lose, how much money you are allowed to spend our of your bank account or savings account, every and I mean every part of you life.
This just proves how stupid America is getting. "SIgh"
jj62ud 10 months ago
Time to push back.. let's do it!
CAPTDAX 1 year ago
obammieCare is Healthcare DEFORM!!
It is Not even about health, but simply Government Control of Everybody's Life!!
3martijns 1 year ago
I'm in....
sts121 1 year ago
Nothing in the Constitution authorizes Social Security, Medicare, NASA, railroads either, does it?
spiritualbully 1 year ago
Yet another frivolous lawsuit
kellyrk2007 1 year ago
@kellyrk2007 It is not frivilous. Obamacare is un-Constitutional. Read the Constitution!!
pat52010 1 year ago 5
I added my name to the Class Action Suit!!!
pat52010 1 year ago
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@pat52010 The lawyers will thank you and you might even get five bucks in the mail if they win.
crazedNdiffused 1 year ago
haha they deserve 2 get sued :P obama needs 2 get impeached cuz he aint done nothin 4 this country to try to make it better ecept make it worse
Tiffanyamber9713 1 year ago
Obama for president 2012!
ulyssess702 1 year ago
Obama <3 ^-^
ulyssess702 1 year ago
love it! let all hope
rockyhowell 1 year ago
Great 2 hear... the commerce clause is also related 2 much of the problems with credit cards & predatory lending... I have 2 agree. The 1942 decision was bad & it should of been challenged years ago.....
cat1012000 1 year ago
All six of us has become Plantiffs, and I am spreading the word.
THANK YOU for the oppurtunity.
ChataquaLazarus 1 year ago
We need a few more million people to rock this boat, spread the word now!!!
deannashm 1 year ago
Very interesting that the Republican party itself has no power stopping something that is Unconstitutional and dangerous. very interesting.
dwhitmire49 1 year ago
@dwhitmire49 Most Republicans have no interest in this issue or any other Constitutional issue because they are on a power trip just like Democrats. Ron Paul is one of the few Republicans that believes in a Consitutional Republic like the founding fathers. Most of the idiots in Congress love anything that smacks of big government!! We need to replace the idiots with true Constitutional candidates!!
pat52010 1 year ago
What about mandatory car insurance?
MagicByWest 1 year ago
@MagicByWest one thing at a time. Don't want to upset the balance of power too much or anarchy will ensue.
dwhitmire49 1 year ago
@dwhitmire49 I think you mean chaos, not Anarchy.
MagicByWest 1 year ago
@MagicByWest No I meant anarchy. Ever seen a major intersection traffic light fail The morons go chaotic. The Marxist and patriot have planned ahead.
Ya can survive chaos being alone. Ya can't survive anarchy without a tribe.
You will be chaotic not knowing shit about what is going on.
crazedNdiffused 1 year ago
@crazedNdiffused Then you really don't understand Anarchy.
MagicByWest 1 year ago
@MagicByWest Driving is a privilege not a right. Living is a right not a privilege.
azbipod 1 year ago
@azbipod More or less correct, glad someone pointed it out. However, are you sure? Living on their land (the state's) is a privilege afforded to you by the state, just as driving on THEIR roads is a privilege granted to you by them.
MagicByWest 1 year ago
@azbipod ya have the right to own property?
Ya have the right to use public property for it's intended purpose?
Is not transportation the number one priority for any persuit happy or not? Your not moving your a dependent.
How can anyone think driving is a privilege. When you have a court problem unrelated to driving and they pull your license maybe you'll have a better understanding of the Marxist concept of 'Privilege'. But maybe not.
crazedNdiffused 1 year ago
What about mandatory car insurance?
MagicByWest 1 year ago
@FigthingGrandma,
I have been using "reputable" health food stores for 40 yrs now, but thanks for the advice. There are, unfortunately, still somethings that "health food" cannot completely cure. And, equally unfortunately, I have been exposed to toxins due to a series of negligent landlords as well as having had a spouse who was exposed to AO in VN. I am sure your advice was well meant, but you assume far too much.
And, I have had experience in law suits, class action and individual.
Uberqueenbee 1 year ago
I am a plaintiff on the lawsuit as well, and I am pissed that this administration has the audacity to even attempt to force people to have health care. They have no authority. Period.
Maybe come 2012 we can vote his sorry butt out and get the real american candidate in... RON PAUL!
scikoolaid 1 year ago
@scikoolaid more likely Obama will resign very shortly. Obama is just a crooked attorney. Nixon resigned for much less. For me this is personal too. OBAMA AND HIS DHS JANET ARE INVOLVED WITH BANKING FRAUD OF RECORDS OF ME DECEASED. The paper trail on this is linked to the likely funding of Obamacare. See my website link on my channel about Insilco and Bank One in sec docs. My company of Zenadev used fraudulently. I am not dead just defrauded like the rest of us. This is really big. RESIGN OBAMA!
HoneySiegalSurvivor 1 year ago
Don't blame me - I voted for the American.
I'd like to march an impeachment petition up to the WH gate. Wonder how the Soetoro jackboots would react to that.
Barry dragged from office - now THAT'S change I can believe in!
USAon3 1 year ago
I'm no right-winger, and Fox News is about as "fair and balanced" as medieval torture, but this is fascinating.
Musicosm 1 year ago
The arrogance of Obow and all dummycraps is beyond belief. They don't care about anyone but themselves and their power, which will likely be removed from them soon so we can start impeachment proceedings. But I have a feeling that these fools will start WWIII before then, and millions couldperish when it all blows up in their faces. Leave it to stupid dums to ruin everything.
ObowMao666 1 year ago
I'm proud to say that I am on that list! I truly admire Van for his fortitude in addressing this nightmare shoved down the throat of the America people! I think our message is coming across loud and clear that 'they' will not get our country - we will not lay down and play dead. I truly believe that we will emerge as our Constitutional nation as strong as our Founders intended but a whole lot smarter ...
FightingGrandma 1 year ago
I am on the list also. Have been from the beginning. We don't even know who wrote the health care bill do we? Never have I ever heard of a bill being passed before it is read. I would not be willing to vote for something unknown.
Laurieb2851 1 year ago
I'm on the list too!!! Why do I get the feeling that I might get audited for the first time this year....
DeathwingRules 1 year ago
@DeathwingRules
Don't worry - we are on the side of the 'good guys' - live free or die! We have our children and grandchildren to fight for. I certainly hope that you do not get audited and if you have your paperword in order, no worries mate!
FightingGrandma 1 year ago
@DeathwingRules Don't worry too much, Van probably has a lawsuit waiting for the IRS eventually too. Even though my wife and I are firmly in the middle-class, our taxes have been audited for aprox. 6 out of the last 10 years. They like to hit the little guys the hardest!! But our day is coming when we finally take the country back to a Constitutional Republic!! Also a big hurray for some of the sheriffs across this country, who have become "OathKeepers"!!!
pat52010 1 year ago
oh yeah, child labor, horrible factory conditions, the end of the american dream... great things were happening with monopolized america at the turn of the 20th century...
MrMvt333 1 year ago
@littledebrare, I figured we'd be on the watch list if we signed on to the suit. But I don't care, I signed onto it months ago. And I think we have a very good case.
LallyGagR 1 year ago 2
So proud to say that I am a Named Plaintiff on that document.
Trauncher 1 year ago 2
I did too Tucsonpersonified. I saw the video. I signed on to each an every law suit on the Repeal of Obamacare, including this one. None of the agents want to be the 'one' to be the 'messenger' that the BO is being sued!
So since 'someone' is interested, be assured that all of us who signed on as Plaintiffs are people of 'interest' also.
Even knowing that, I'd sign on as a Plaintiff again ... and again!
littledebrarae 1 year ago
I joined and donated money!!
tucsonpersonified 1 year ago 3
Seems every moron in the county is devising a way to get their political campaign off the ground and the buffoons at FOX “NEWS” (joke) are jumping to promote them. What a bunch of imbeciles! The Health Care Plan will save the middle class and we are happy for it! I am tired of funding the wealthy (tax breaks) and the poor (don't pay for care now). The MIDDLE CLASS is rising up and YOU thieves cannot stand that we are going to regulate you to make it harder for you to pilfer and rape us
MarcellaLamb 1 year ago
@MarcellaLamb You should not promote class struggle with your "hate the wealthy" attitude. FYI, the top 5 percent of money earners in the USA pay 50% of taxes and the class envy whiners want them to pay even more. Having lived in Canada for 5 years I can tell you socialized medicine sucks there and Canada isn't even close to the massive welfare state of America. Add the Illegals to this Marxian policy and all will be buried in a heap of misery !
kenzo5716 1 year ago
@MarcellaLamb
Marcella - google the HC plan and read it. You may be in for a surprise. Obamacare comes in and the middle class is gone. As for 'funding' the wealthy - I've never been hired for a job by the middle class, much less the poor. I've worked for wealthy people all my life and they work their asses off to get where they are & treated me well! BTW, who do you work for?
FightingGrandma 1 year ago
@MarcellaLamb My friend you are in for a rude awakening when "Uncle Sam" comes knocking on your "middle class" door asking for all kinds of new taxes and the Obamacare will be part of those taxes!! Health care ain't free now and it certainly won't be free under O-care either, it will just get more expensive!! By the way, stop watching Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC...They are simply "corporate mouthpieces"!!
pat52010 1 year ago
i joined the lawsuit also let freedom ring!!!!
laurakbrown 1 year ago 11
@laurakbrown I joined the lawsuit too. BUT I know that my name is very controversial on the lawsuit because the Feds are involved in huge fraud against me linked to the Healthcare Bill farce.
There are fraudulent records of me deceased which have been done by the Arizona courts for DHS Janet Napolitano in partnership with Desert Jewel Properties.........tangled web of attorneys as high as Holder who are perpetrating banking fraud of the estate of me DEAD. hs
Can a dead woman join a lawsuit?
HoneySiegalSurvivor 1 year ago
Wrong again moron
dtraer 1 year ago
Finally HOPE!! Obama care is the most freedom killing bill in American history, it virtually gives Obama the license to kill innocent people. Death by government doctors. Marxists are really in to population control by mass murder, forced abortions and forced sterilization. SPREAD THIS VIDEO!
ARGrandma1 1 year ago 10
@ARGrandma1 What a bunch a bullshit! this is gonna fail. you can't repeal a law based on fear and bullshit. that's why most polls support health care because they're finding the fright-wing bullshit is being exposed for being fright-wing bullshit. before you go running to the Great Ol Propaganda website like Resseum or whatever it's called. can you another poll that rejects this law?
123Questionman 1 year ago
@ARGrandma1 Can you tell me the section of the Obamacare law that lets Obama kill innocent people, specifically? Like can you tell me the exact language in the bill.
Thanks
hawanja 11 months ago
Thank you Van! I am one of the 25,000 & have faith in your ability to shine the light on this travesty.
Reading a few comments indicate there are still people who make fun of the truth, & live in the fallacy. The fact that our country is going down the drain just doesn't ring a bell to people like LoryLandSkipper. Wonder how you'll like being a third world nation-better bone up on how people/ women are treated there.
Thank God FOX News tells the truth - not trash like mainstream media.
purplewings123 1 year ago 2
You fucking retard, you can't even define communism
dtraer 1 year ago
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surnbe 1 year ago
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@dtraer Communism is tryanny imposed by force, socialism is tryanny imposed by deceit
surnbe 1 year ago
He is not the 1st Black president ! He is half LILLY WHITE!
Never the less he is a Communist with a agenda.
He will have to face the same God as you and I.
GOD Help us all
ChataquaLazarus 1 year ago
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LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@LoryLandskipper This is a copy of the comment I recieved in my inbox. How sad!
''@ChataquaLazarus
Yes, we all have to face the same God when we die: A million-eyed monster with tentacles and spikes jetting out of it's arms who consumes planets and shits black holes! LORD DENOM SHOWS NO MERCY TO ANY LIVING CREATURE!
Child I am not a Hellfire and Brimstone believer, I am a Christain and my God is peace, joy and all things Good!
Yours sounds Islamic in nature of description. I'm so sorry!
ChataquaLazarus 1 year ago
@ChataquaLazarus
LOL! It was a joke, but since I figured it would offend you, I deleted it.
As far as mine sounding Islamic in nature, could you be any more ignorant?
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@LoryLandskipper
Your probably not old enough to remember the early 70's and the Hell we went through as a Nation. In fact the hell lasted untill Reagan's 2nd term.
It's so funny your name LoryLandskipper is so much like B.Hussein Obama, are you related?
If it hadn't been for the SHAME of the family, and Hussein was actually raised in Kansas he wouldn't be president now. I come from that part of the country and would bet. The Elitist attitude was shown, well he would have been beaten MULATO
ChataquaLazarus 1 year ago
It about time!
Alex4Constitution 1 year ago
Well god darn!! BRAVO!!!
Finally we the people are waking up instead of letting "them" step all over us time after time,day after day!! Thats right my friend,they dont own us like they think they do and have no right making up their own laws like this hahahha they are corrupt!!!
Blast em outta the water!!
Sikus1965 1 year ago 2
Not happy w/ HC bill, but am not jumping on a bandwagon that has nothing to offer people w/o insurance and access to decent healthcare. The "issues" have become so intertwined that you cannot hack away at one w/o dealing with the others...declining jobs, service sector jobs going overseas, BP disaster, mortgage and banking catastrophes, GM bail out, 2 front war.....
See Obama Deception for a glimmer of the truth.
Uberqueenbee 1 year ago
@Uberqueenbee
Learn your way around a reputable health food store - you would be amazed! I'm old and don't have any health care but I am perfectly healthy...
FightingGrandma 1 year ago
As lead Plaintiff in this case I would like to thank everyone who has joined and shown their support for this important lawsuit. Thinking back when this unconstitutional bill was passed I felt helpless and defeated but I was told by Jenny Beth Martian we have lost a battle but not the war as we stood at 12AM in front of the capitol after it passed. Those words encouraged me to stand up as the first American to sue in hopes of making a difference.
antshreeve 1 year ago 3
I joined and gave $10. Everyone should. Use a prepaid card if you have to, just do it!
ladyradical2 1 year ago
Like Katie Couric, Dana Perino is one of the reptilian aliens.
DrLeroyGreen 1 year ago
Anything that gets the government out of our lives is in our best interests. We are slowly but surely heading to a nanny state...
strensk 1 year ago
idiot
findelkind666 1 year ago
Nice job.
truefictions 1 year ago
@Skipper - exactly what would be in YOUR best interest ??
knight6479 1 year ago
@knight6479
Just guessing here, but maybe a handout from 'Obama's stash' would be in LoryLandskipper's best interest?
Ozmator 1 year ago
@Ozmator
Yep, you WERE just guessing, and you guessed WRONG.
Just guessing here, but maybe you just dismiss people like this whenever they don't share your opinion exactly. "You don't want to sue the government!? YOU TAKE GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS! BLAHHHH!"
Jeesh
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@LoryLandskipper
Are ou really going to complain about me dismissing you after you do dismiss Van Irion because it was broadcast on FOX?
What is interesting here is that all networks are not running with this story - even if they believe he is a freak and the case has no merit, the fact that a case is moving forward against the POTUS and the Federal Gov. is news. Definitely bigger news than anything Lindsy Lohan could do.
So let's not complain about logical fallacies whilst relying upon them.
Ozmator 1 year ago
@Ozmator
First - Just because you didn't read or see this someplace else, it doesn't mean other networks aren't running the story. This is something you have assumed obviously without research. I just did a simple Google News search, and the first article was written by CBS! So you're wrong there.
Second - you present another straw man. My contempt for the lawsuit is separate from my disdain for Fox News. Neither inherit from the other.
Let's try and stick what's actually being said ;)
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@LoryLandskipper
I did not give any money - I joined the lawsuit. And I'm not purchasing insurance in 2014 in any case, I already have ins. and when I lose it due to ObamaCare I will not get it again - no matter what this sham of a law says.
Additionally my comment was not that no other networks were covering it, but that they were not ALL covering it - which of course is a statement to what the media & much of society considers important.
Ozmator 1 year ago
@Ozmator
Sorry, but you wrote it differently and it held a completely different meaning. "all networks are not running with this story" should have read "not all networks are running this story."
Anyways, as far as the lawsuit goes, I'll be keeping an eye on this, but I don't expect much. I have one of the Cadillac plans, so I am affected by the reform. I hope he can stir some shit up with this lawsuit lol
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@LoryLandskipper
So what exactly is the point of this exchange? You make a comment, I respond, you accuse me of using logical fallacies to address your logical fallacies - not exactly a productive use of time.
Lets boil it down:
- I want to defend my liberty against an unconstitutional law.
- You say that is 'very sad and naive' & you have 'contempt' for it.
- You also have 'disdain' for an information outlet.
If we disagree on liberty then all else is irrelevant. Good day and enjoy serfdom.
Ozmator 1 year ago
@Ozmator
Obviously you're incapable of a discussion with someone without making things up. I don't know if there's some sort of internal turmoil going on that won't let you converse with other people normally, or if you are well aware that you're doing it, but it's the reason for this exchange.
You keep saying that I'm calling the act of defending liberty naive, when you know that's not what I said at all. I've pointed this out to you already, so you're repeating this straw man. Good GOD
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@Ozmator she's a LIBERAL ..........nough said
littledebrarae 1 year ago
@knight6479
My best interest is the same as yours: I don't want my anger for ObamaCare to have me jump into a lawsuit that doesn't actually do anything, or worse, promotes an agenda that isn't being mentioned here.
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
Something tells me this Van guy isn't looking out for our best interests... But hey, it's Fox News, it's not like they would put someone like that on to mislead us, right?
This video and the comments posted are all very sad and naive.
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@LoryLandskipper
This has been an issue long before it was covered on FOX or anywhere else. I am a named plaintiff on this case as well - there is nothing naive about defending liberty and the Constitution. It is sad, however, that we are at a point in history where we have to sue the President & federal government to protect liberty and the Constitution.
Ozmator 1 year ago
@Ozmator
"there is nothing naive about defending liberty and the Constitution."
Brilliant straw man. Not only did you manage to twist what I said into something it never was, but you also managed to throw in a few key buzzwords that should appeal to any patriotic American. LOL
Hey I wonder how all those lawsuits against the Patriot Act went...
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@LoryLandskipper
You stated a video and people discussing a the issue (defending liberty & the Constitution) were 'naive and sad'. by pointing out that there is nothing naive about such I am not using a straw man or any other logical fallacy.
My only goal is the defense of my liberty, and by extension the liberty of my fellow citizens.
Ozmator 1 year ago
@Ozmator
People discussing the issue? I said the comments were naive, not the act of discussing the issue.
I'm all for discussing this issue, but if you gave this guy money in hopes of not having to purchase health insurance in 2014, then yes, THAT is naive.
Thanks btw for having such an admirable goal. You're very unique.
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@Ozmator
BTW, how ironic is it that you bring in yet ANOTHER straw man in order to defend your initial straw man?
"You stated a video and people discussing a the issue (defending liberty & the Constitution) were 'naive and sad'." <~That's a COMPLETE straw man. I never said that. Every single comment could be mindless dribble, but the comment is what's being attacked, not the act of making the comment and discussing the issues. See how you're trying to pull one over? You're fooling yourself
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
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@LoryLandskipper
you: "This video and the comments posted are all very sad and naive.'
I stand by my remarks. o further explanation needed.
Ozmator 1 year ago
@Ozmator
You stand by your remark that I called defending liberty naive when clearly you just showed that's NOT what I said?
Stop posting stupid things and people won't treat you like you're stupid, ok?
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@LoryLandskipper since YOU WERE TOO LAZY to READ the HEALTH CARE LAW, you'll learn about Obamacare RATIONING the HARD WAY! And when that HAPPENS (and it will if YOU HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS) ......not all of the OBAMA KOOL AIDE in the WORLD will be able to HELP you continue to live in LA LA LAND!
littledebrarae 1 year ago
@littledebrarae
lol!
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
What is the difference between inter state commerce and intrA state commerce!!
This guy Rocks!
Martintfre 1 year ago
Well the guy is right, anyone whos had a history class in high school would know it though.
mrpatience2007 1 year ago
We need one to get rid of the 3 above mentioned socialists.
Scooter0105 1 year ago
THE SLEEPING GIANT IS WAKING UP!!!!!!!!!!
xxdonaldqxx 1 year ago
This Would have a LOT more signers, IF they did NOT have to Put their Credit Card Info OUT there!!!! I am Probably Use a Small Line Card, That I keep for this purpose, But....EVERYONE needs to Figure out a WAY, 25,000 is NOT enough, and I KNOW There are MANY more than That out there that would LIKE to be on This!!!
bonniejf2009 1 year ago
Thank Heavens!
Imjetta7 1 year ago
Being from Tennessee, I signed up on day one...If anyone wishes to sign up now, you must contribute anywhere from $5 to $10 in order to show that you are not a troll or spy or joker...There were over 35,000 signers, now just a little over 25,000, this show you how many people were libtards/socialist or scared to follow through...
MoralsMan 1 year ago
I am all for this, they need to add us to the lawsuit. I am so sick of Obama & Nancy that I can't wait for 2012. Thank you so much for sharing this video. I was watching it the other night when he was on Greta, but couldn't seem to locate it. Thanks so much for sharing this video and I am going to pass it on.
ruckdogs 1 year ago
@ruckdogs i am from canada and obama and nancy sickens me
bluegrassman1000 1 year ago
Every American should join in this lawsuit, I did, and proud to be a part of it. This is a way to send a message to Congress, the Administration and prayerfully to the Supreme Court. If you are a slave to the Democrats, you will soon learn, that they control when you eat, what you eat, how you eat, how much weight you must gain or lose, how much money you are allowed to spend our of your bank account or savings account, every and I mean every part of you life.
BeccaRose52 1 year ago 2
You did a great job, Van. Keep up the good work!
JTWebsites 1 year ago 2
Good im glad they are watching they need to pay attention. They need to see the number of people that are against this ridiculous bill.
ra44mr2 1 year ago 2