Illogical Israel admitted to harvesting organs from dead palestinians including children illegally, also from foreign workers. It's very easy to see how Israel incites the muslim world 24 hours a day. That combined with the fact they assassinate elected officials, real nice.
Do you know that there are other religions beside abrahamic ones?Sanatana Dharma,a spiritual path of India guides you carefully into understanding why God exists,for example life comes from life,there is no example that life may come from matter,not one cell was created in labs.There is no eternal hell in dharmic beliefs of India but there is eternal spiritual world.The concept of karma and incarnation is the very base of their TOLERANCE and no need for conversions.
Honest debate is your weakness. I see now. You can't be honest about anything, and when someone points that out you act like commies do and censor. Pathetic. Even more pathetic is how you seek to appear neutral and impartial calling yourself a former christian when you are Jewish and lean towards zionism in every thought.
Why don't you make another worthless video pretending third world arab nations with no air force or navy are a threat? Jews rewrote immigration policy bringing them anyhow
Yeah and people aren't born knowing that fire is hot and cold is cold. You tell them, it's hot jackass, don't touch it.
Just like religious people tell their children, don't lie, don't steal, don't be a scumbag.
God is used as a medium to induce discipline.
Atheism is nothing but apathy and materialism.
The only good atheist, is a national socialist atheist. Any other is just uncouth and looked down on for their lack of moral backbone or ability to be trusted. Atheists have no conviction
Indeed, it's indocrination into these primitive cults :) Any of us could make up our own personal religion, i mean i could wake up tomorrow and say i believe in the sun as my god, i mean it's real and i see it everyday. I could say it gives us life and created life, and therefore is the giver of life and has more validity to me as god, than any supposed prophet of god, they were men. All religion is the word of man, merely herding tools to control the masses...as you say, brainwashing.
i am going now I stumped on how to help you understand. Only Allah (SWT) can save you from the Hellfire. I really don't know how else explain you. I just hope that one day you will open your eyes to truth and realize that scientist are also converting to Islam due to the Scientific Mircles in the Qur'an. Maybe someone else can explain you better than me. I hope that one day you find your answers to the existance of God and when you do may He bless you for you understanding. Bye bye now
Such ridiculously errant ignorance. You blatantly and wilfully ignore modern scientific fact. All you have in truth is faith, blind faith in words spoken 1000's of years ago, and in your case a man in a cave who was probably halucinating, being dehydrated I expect, and of course married a six year old girl. Evoltion is just a question of TIME. Evolution is truth, religion is fallacy, and stifles thought :) good video btw
I am ignorant it just amazes to me that the Qur'an speaks of this things long before any modern scientist discovered them. All of the Haters are just so stupid i cannot believe that i get one small piece of information and they just run with it. OMG talk about being blinded. (the "6 year old girl") that is what I talk about. Just stupid. I am not even going to waste any more of my time with someone like you and your buddies
After every revelation of Allah (SWT) to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) through the Angel Gabriel was extremely draining on him. So that is why Allah (SWT) choose a select few. He also Choose Good men because at the time the world was very corrupt. Many Sins were being commited. So for a non-believer to believe the words of a sinner would be more difficult than a non-believer believing the words of an honest man.
Only God last forever. Everything is meant to die out. Just as you get older everyday and year this universe is getting old and it is meant to eventually die. Humans may spead up the proccess due to our own stupidity. But you say you will be extinct yes we will. We will all die. Even if you believe that there is no God we will become extincted like the dinsours. And they did nothing wrong.
which refutes your prior claim. also our species does not have to die out. once we achieve a stage 2 civilization we will never die out. right now we are at stage 0.
God has sent to us Clear signs of His existance. He has sent to us His messangers (PBUT) to teach us. It is up to us to believe or not. God is not to blame if you don't want to believe.
yet he did not send messangers to all people. he only sent them to isolated communities in roughly the same area. i mean god isn't even a popular concept. most eastern nations and religions have no gods. something you seem incapable of understanding.
The existance of God is beyond our capability of understanding. I tell you how is it that all of creation stays in perfect harmony without an entity controling it? As I tell Christians who believe in 3 Gods How is it that all that exisit stays in harmony with three enities controling. It is impossible. There would be conflict. If God did not send messangers to us to reveal His word to us how is it that from the begining of humans does everyone believe in some sort of god or another?
creation is not in perfect harmony. our universe is degrading at a steady rate. in 5 billion years our star will explode. eventually all stars will go out. then as time space continue to expand atoms will be pulled a part. sorry. just the way it is. even in our current universe things are not habitable. at any given moment a gama ray could blow our atmosohere away. our current magnetic shield is degrading by 10% per hundred years. within 300 years if not fixed deadly radiation will begin to
pour into our planet. killing all multicellular life.
hopefully men like me will reign. scientific adavance will continue without being slowed down. if people like me are not sucessful we will become extinct. just the way it goes.
You are right man failed her. I never blame the science of it that is what was helping her. Anyways radical Christians are the ones who say earth is only 10 thousand year old. I am not Christian. I am Muslim. You are trying to disprove God & say we are illogical in our thinking? You cannot do it because Science still does not know the truth. & unitl they do my opinion will not change. God revealed Himself through his messangers (PBUT). It is up to us to believe. That is the power of freewill.
Yes I can hold the medical field responsible. My sister was recovering. They neglected her. They failed to provide her with proper care. They turned their backs on her and looked the other way. So I will and continue to blames those who were involved with her case.
I know all to well about science saving lives even thought it did not save my sisters. i am working on doctorial degree in nursing. I don't bash science I question it. You still have not answered my question on who or what started the very first chain reaction.
Interesting. I am now in the medical field myself. Also, I would like you to understand something. your sister died of something that eventually will be cured. You can not hold the medical field accountable for her death. Now my second point would be this. I and science may never have an answer for the very very very beginning. This does not prove the existence of god though. Negative proof is not in itself proof. You are attempting a maneuver known as shifting burden of proof.
furthermore, the tea pot idea is thus. if a small teapot orbited the sun scientists as of now would never be able to disprove its existance. does this mean that the teapot is real? no it does not. If god exists why are their clear signs of evolution? why do holy books claim the earth is only 10thousand or less years old but scientists have revealed it is 4.5 billion? why did god not reveal himself in an obvious way so that curious people like myself could see and acknowledge his existence?
The theory of everything. Wow. I really mean WOW. If you don't have a theory of how the universe was created it goes under the M-Theory the theory of everything? And that is Logical? ;) I can just hear the scientist now "We don't know how this works or why it is. Lets put it under the category of the M-Theory. That will cover it!!!!" Come on man that is not Logical.
the theory of everything is backed up via math, and what data we have obtained from not only observation, but the particle accelerator.also i would not bash the theory of everything because it is the only scientific theory that may prove the existence of a quantum central power, conscience or unconscious may never be known. do not bash science. it saves lives daily, sent us to the moon, and makes this conversation possible.
a puppet to worship God. To have a puppet that you control. Humans worship God for their own benifit because God does not need or want anything. He ask us to worship Him to keep us focused on what is good & to help us fight off evil. As for Iraq I was just adding in because you say to all muslims have a evil religion. I just explain to you why were are fighting. & I explain to you that were are fighting for our lands just as America fights for hers. Or do you expect us to still & twiddle thumbs?
What no response? I say to you lets disscuss your logic. Im interested to see how the universe was created with your logic if there is no original creator. Please explain me how that is logical. As for the Ostrich egg on the planet it is just an interpretation to the Holy Qur'an. Meaning that the world is not like a ball or the world is not flat like it was common to believe 1400 years ago. God gave us free will to make our own decisons whether to worship Him not. What is the purpose to create
oh so the whole natural must work only in certain ways but then you have this supernatural being that you can't prove exists that exists outside of it.
you fail to realize the flaw in your own logic. lets look at your logic. tell me if there was no original creator or back to the dominos who or what started the first reation that caused the creation of the universe? The universe was created right? Who or what created it?
Whoa whoa whoa watch the language. have i called you any names? And you want to call muslims evil. that is just wow. Evil exist because the devil exist and there like i said before you cannot believe in one without the other. Any other species on the face of the planet evolves, Every other species is not evil. Humans are not born evil. If there is no devil there cannot be evil. We would just be another species on earth fighting for survival. Using our basic needs for survival. not killing just
You have not proved that God does not exist. you are ignoring your own logic. God cannot be created for he is the creator. He exist outside time and space as we know it. He had no body, He does not eat drink urinate or anything else so what is there to create. God cannot be seen. This is something that is beyond our capability of understanding.
theists make a special pleading to exempt God from their argument. If everything that exists must have a cause, who created God? Variations of this argument employ the first law of thermodynamics to imply that God has always existed because the first law of thermodynamics says matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Nice notion, but it still doesn't prove there's a God.
It merely suggests there's more for us to understand, and every day scientists get closer to addressing these issues without referencing God or anything supernatural. If there's a recurring theme in any of these arguments, it's that you pick and choose which tenets of science you want to embrace (the ones that help prove their claims) and ignore all the rest as if they don't exist. These theories are part of a complex interconnected system.
when I point out this flaw in your logic, you commit another logical fallacy: special pleading to claim that God is the exception to the rule and doesn't need to have a creator.
7. Americans are not wanted in Iraq. One man's Terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Let me ask you when America is attaked are you expected to sit still and do nothing? Or are you going to respond by attacking back? I already know the answer to this question and it is that America is going to respond. What makes you think that Muslim countries are going to sit still while there lands are being invaded? Just like the Americas Muslims are going to defend the lands
6. At the end of this video you call muslims evil so therefore you are acknowledging the fact that there is evil which would call for a devil and there cannot be a devil without a God. You cannot possibly believe in one and not the other for the are both unseen entities. Muslims are not evil. We have denouced terrorism a long time ago. Yes there are extremist in every religion not just Islam. Zionist preform genocide on the Palestinians.
For there to be moral law does not imply a moral law giver. you fail to understand this. morality is inherently objective. also, social structure is a product of evolution; which you don't understand so why bother?
5. These things are just now being discovered in the 20th century, How is it possible that Muhammad (PBUH) knew these things. There is only one way and that is he was revealed it by the creator. You say that there is no God so that would mean that there is no Devil right? The devil is evil and causes people to do evil things. We were not born evil. If there is no God and no devil then there will be no good and no evil. The human species would be like everyother creature on this earth.
which means we can not be blamed for our actions negating hell. this also means god shouldn't be worshiped if he is real because he is incapable or unwilling to stop evil.
4. that it would be impossible for the Prohet Muhammad (PBUH) could not possibly have known. Here are the Examples: The deveopment of the human embryo, The sex of a baby coming from a woman, Mountains being rooted into the crust of the earth, The earth being like the shape of an ostrich egg, The preservation of the body of Pharoh Ramese, And many more. All of these things are mentioned in the Qur'an and are 100% correct.
the embryo thing is BS. I can prove it. Also, the earth is not the shape of an ostrich egg. it isn't spherical but it doesn't look like and egg. there were mummies seen at that time. all nobility was mummified. logic would say that ramese was as well. this also ignores the fact that there could have been previous mummies called ramese. No they are not. Your really going to force me to explain why the embryonic one isn't.
3. falling. They would sit there forever until something pushes the first one then it starts the chain reaction eventually causing all the dominos to fall down. My Point here is There has to be a creator or One Being that is out side time and space to cause the first chain reaction and ultimately is the creator of the creation of our universe. God does not exist in the time and space as we know it. God Exist out side Time and Space. Also in the Qur'an there are scientific things that are true
2. responsible for creation, You have not disproved the existance of God. For every chain reaction including "The Big Bang Theory" there has to be something that started that chain reation. If before the chain reation everything all atoms were moving around in perfect harmony then all of a sudden they started to collide something had to make that happen. Lets look at the dominos. you line up the dominos on the floor and they are all sitting there in perfect harmony never moving and never
1. I don't mean any disrespect but Muslims are illogical? You have counterdicted yourself in this video. you talk of we cannot prove that God exists and state that it is easily disproved that he exist. You use the watchmaker theory and say that all compicated life has to have a creator but basically say no it points to DNA then you talk about the magical Teapot that is there and it is "responsible for creation" that would me that it is the creator. I orginal creator. Something that is
well then you should prob follow your rleigion and start acting like a christian or better off become muslim you literally called yourself a atheist and you want us to consirder you a christian?
Of course many of the Nazi individuals were also Catholic/clerical fascists. Also Nazism used people's faith - "kitchen, church, kids" for the German woman.
Also state controlled churches formed a formidable propaganda instrument. Which parallels your argument partly - religiously indoctrinated people are less apt to question, to really question with a result-open manner (which science is by definition) - therefore easier to control and incite.
yet here you see evil occultists trying to figure out the best way to manipulate. they turn to religion. this is why i am so aggressive against religious people.
Religion is the one instrument that lets even atheist/anti-humanist evil ideologists control the masses best - because people are more willing to die with transcendental promises.
I hate to admit it, but atheism is not flawless, they do sometimes preach death (although I tend to agree they persecute others, on average, much less than religiously indoctrinated people). Most of the high Nazis were atheists. Himmler had a research project regarding the witch burning by the church. The title of the publication "Christian cruelty against Germanian women".
Also much of their killing was rooted in the conviction they constituted the height of nature, the "masters" of all.
You should have found a better example for Jewish fundamentalism than smashing babies' heads on rocks. I'm probably most critical of the Jewish religion and practice (because Judaism contains an inherent racism - God s people on the basis of blood), but I'm aware of this claim only from Catholicist sources that in medieval and early modern Europe led to the persecution of Jews.Child disappears, is found with a smashed head at the bottom of a mountain - Jewish ritual, isn't it obvious?!
I kept my criticism short on the 2 other religions short. since this was meant as a reply to a Muslim woman. me going out on a tangent about Jews would have just been a waste of time.
I would have then preferred you would not have mentioned the "baby killer" example, because it is one of the most propagandist/untrue allegations against Judaism (as I said, I think there is plenty to criticize, but this one antisemitic lie I am pretty uncomfortable with as it is used mostly by Muslim fundamentalists and in part even state TV today, and by the Catholic church in dark centuries).
Mohamed acknowledged Judaism and Christianity as God's religion and said that Allah & Jehovah are One & the same God. but his teachings contradicts the teachings of both Jesus Christ & Jehovah or YAHWEH, which proves that Mohamed was actually False. Jesus Christ allowed himself to be killed and showed us what Unconditional Love is, God's Love.. Loving your enemies. He could have turned his followers against the Romans and saved himself. If He was false, then WHY would he NOT do that?
Funny thing is, there is no way to use Biblical scripture to support tellign someone else they are going to hell, the Bible is very clear that the only one who decides, is GOD, and when you stand before him, your own words, condemn you.
So...I would appreciate if for the sake of honesty, you would remain true to scripture.
Try comparing Matthew 5, with say, Sura 9, and I think you will see, you are comparing apples and rotten cow patties.
Stay on topic? If it is about Islam, why is the first slide about the Bible?
If this is really an excersise in Truth, then such a simply poor methodology would not be used.
I am suggesting you corect this error, which is essentially a strawman, for the sake of keeping your message one based on facts.
How would you like it if I said, ''Chairman Mao was an Atheist and he killed millions of intelligent people so his country would be easier to control; so Atheist like to kill people.
If you want to argue in a logically sound mannor, I think you should include words from the Qur'an, Sura 9, to show your poiunt is valid.
I don't think you will have much luck finding such in the Gospel, without taking things seriously OUT of context; which would not be in the best interests of TRUTH; if that is truly your goal.
If you have another agenda contrary to the truth, then cary on; you are serving that spirit well.
why don't I just quote the radical sheiks who utilize it to justify conquest.
aslo while we are having this discussion go ahead and tell me why it was ok for Muslims to invade entire nations unprovoked and conquer them? hmmm tell me that tell me about why rape and pillage is justified in your religion.
oh thats right your invisibe friend says so ok got it.
yes. going along blindly and demanding death and theocratic government is immoral. Which I am making a video right now that is only about the History of Islam.
and i think i'd rather say people are born agnostic. They dont' really know either way. They are born without the knowledge of specific deities though. Atheism is more of a knowledgeable state, where one becomes one after much thought(although not always hehe)
Agnostics perhaps. Would they even know that there would be either way? The only evidience that points to any direction is God on the Brain part 4.
And the next time you see a child, under 6-7. Tell them to do something, if they don't (and are not high on kiddy drugs) they're atheist. If they do, then they're muslim. If they waver, they're agnostic. If they say "jesus loves you", damn, christian missionary starts young.
Where's the proof? Because atheist is rejection of theism. Atheism is the position that deities do not exist. If you don't agree, then change wikipedia.
Typical white man trying to put a black religion down.
Most people are not of zero faith. They are by birth 100% muslim. Why? Because of the meaning of the word is more suitable. Muslim means someone who submits, or makes peace with. And children do as they're told. They obey their mothers. Organically. This was made evident in Jamie Olivers school dinners part 2. I'll send you the link. Please note that 40% of Africa is muslim. And since you're an atheist, 40% is christian as well. How many atheists are black?
What would race have to do with any of it? 90% of africa sucks. I said people at birth have zero "faith" in any deity. People are born atheists then brought into by coercion into a religion. There is zero proof of god. Just because you have a narrow imagination and can not under stand eternity does not mean I am lacking in one. Also your play on words means nothing to me so stop trying to draw parallels. If you have a point or message express one.
It actually makes sense, atheism is a religion for the rich. That's why there are so few atheists in jail, but so many blacks in jail.
You said people have zero "faith" at birth, but most newborns can't even talk. So newborns being atheist, that is subjective, without any evidence, imagination is not evidence. But as for being muslim, the word does match the behaviour, especially since it requires 100% faith to put something in your mouth, as babies do.
Faith and Instinct are two separate things. Using your same logic dogs are theists. The amount of blacks in jail has everything to do with single parent homes. 70% of all people in jail are from single parent homes. When you take out the single parent factor the amount of blacks v. whites in the prison system are the same percapita. So stop playing the class warfare, and race cards they don't work. Atheism is not a white attribute. You could easily reference to europe 100 years ago.
The logic I used, was to apply a word that describes the behaviour of newborns and children. And they are innocent from any suggestion of rejecting deities. Atheism and secularism occurs in either in two cases. Excess wealth, or forced state atheism.
You think wealth makes us secular? You need to rethink your position sir. If you were to take a group of children tell them nothing of god they would never develop a religious view. If you keep them devoid of science as well I would assume you would begin to see a lord of the flies scenario.
The USSR lagged behind the US the whole time. The only advancements they had where during the space race, but this was due to nazi influences through Project Paper clip.
Also why is it that Islam never had any substantial scientific breakthrough? Don't give me some shit about Islams golden age that was just because they united ideas from distant lands. Also where are all of the great muslim poets, and composers?
That gives one for the theists. Theistic warmongering Nazis adds to science as well.
Are you refer to arabic poetry? What about Muhammad Iqbal's works? The Europeans have been at war against the muslims since Islam came up. We've seen it, we experienced it, you've not because of the propaganda.
"Neil tyson alghazali" youtube it. The single individual who brang down the muslims.
I named Muhammad Iqbal because of his missing Nobel price in literature.
The muslims didn't invade anywhere, without being attacked first. That's the rule. If they attack, attack back. If they make peace, peace. If they break the treaty... no second peace treaty. And the muslims went to india in the 7th century, without any war. You forgot to add China. Classical music came from the islamic civilization, which technically lead to the fall of the muslims.
Actually, wrong again. Although war can push government to give more money to science is not prowar. If you read any of the books written by lead scientists or papers published by secular science groups you would know this.
Great Mosque of Xi'an--Chinese Architects used to construct it.
Great Mosque of Samarra-- Christian architects were imported to work.
Great Mosque of Cordoba--A gothic church stolen by muslims, and expanded upon by christian slave labor. Some of the Architects working on it were later executed so they could not repeat the production in christian lands.
one end of refuting. buy the book Politically incorrect guide to Islam
Great Mosque of Xi'an - built over 4 dynasties from 742ad. By this time, the muslims of China would most likely be chinese...
Great Mosque of Samarra - a version like the Mosque of Al-Mutawwakil. Fikri 1961, dissmissed such a suggestion
Mosque of Cordoba - Medieval Islamic Civilization, Josef W. Meri and Jere L. Bacharach, Published by Routledge, 2005 , p. 176 ff - bought, not stolen, and then exmpanded. Stealing is forbidden, with amputation of hand punishment.
as opposed to Arab invaders. So you admit that Arabs invade and conquer to convert. Thanks.
I spent 18 months in Iraq we were briefed on your religious structures from their beginning to current standing. I trust military intelligence.
Furthermore, No it wasn't bought. That is like saying the European purchase of Land was legitimate. Islam invaded raped and tortured the goths and then destroyed their books and as much of their culture as possible.
Military propaganda. Did they tell you about the suicide rate among vetrans or those in Iraq? Or about the soldiers that went nuts on his own company, and killed 5? Perhaps you've learnt that since you came back?
When the muslims took over spain, the Visagoths enemy was Rome. It was the inquisitious book burning that burnt the books, not muslims. Islam raping and torturing, is a contradiction of the quran and muhammad. You have no evidence.
jack ass. The goths preserved roman culture. You are wrong. Now you lying. The Roman empire had already fallen and during the time of Muslim expansion was a dwindled ghost town. We are talking about Islam. You also are wrong again I suggest you read up before you spam. Military propaganda? Oh yes because a vast amount of soldiers are not muslim. The soldier who killed 5 did not do it due to the war. Read up on that as well. But what do I know I am only an E-5 in the United States Army.
So the much vaunted Islamic renaissance was in fact a renaissance of the Persian (Zoroastrian) converts to Islam during the Persianized Abbasiad Caliphate. During the first four caliphs Abba (Abu) Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali (the last three who were murdered by other Muslims in cold blood) and the Ummayad caliphate at Damascus, there was no such thing like the Islamic Renaissance,
No. I spent 16 years in indoctrination. I am spending 3 more. I will read the correct version. I do not need to read modern adjustments. Refer to my reading list. for my flavor of reading.
it was the Persian North African and Egyptian converts who had a pre-Islamic legacy of being civilized, which they carried forward after being converted to Islam.
In fact Islam tried to smother their pre-Islamic legacy of culture and civilization, and so it was only after the initial flush of Islamic savagery had passed over, that the newly converted people could after a generation or so pick up the threads of a civilized life. The Islamic Renaissance happened not due to Islam, but in spite of Islam being around. The Islamic Renaissance was not a triumph of Islam, but a triumph of the human spirit over Islam.
There was no pre-islamic legacy. Other than paganism, and the Justinian plague.
Those so called humans were using islamic methods of civilization.
The west has never wanted to accept Islam. They first labelled that period as the dark ages. Then touted enlightenment. All the while labelling islam in such demonic terms. And even still, when scholarship has turned it's bigoted pass, there are some that will want to hold on to their past.
The only one twisting history, was those who taught you as so. You believed them. Even though they have been declared liars. Where's the WMD in iraq? In the desert? In Iran, Syria, and lebanon? In the skulls of muslim men, women and children? Who's twisting what?
The most recent invasion is by the Americans into Afghanistan (for oil pipelines), and then Iraq (for more oil control).
According to the "American Plans to Convert Iraq into Christianity" video here on youtube, it's the Americans who are - with evidence - trying to convert the poor they placed sanctions on, and then bombed. Arabs doing the same to christians... the only evidence is orientalistic works.
Your twisting again. You have no idea what you are talking about, and furthermore none of us give a shit about converting you. Name one specific military directed movement that was aimed at conversion. Name one specific action taken by the US military with the pure aim of monopolizing on any natural resources.
Look at the CFR or look for new links. The Bush administration changed plans and is not using Iraqi oil to pay back the war effort. Anyways there is not enough oil in Iraq to pay back the total cost of the war. Think out your theories before you attempt to pass them off as factual.
"There's not enough oil in Iraq to pay back the total cost" - yet Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world. Oh right, US friendly companies gained the contracts and then declared this eh?
The price of the war continues to increase. Now we are finally pulling out but the oil is not ours. It belongs to the Iraqi government. Now answer what I said before.
No muslim despises another people, that would contradict the teachings of Islam.
As for the jews, moses had 3000 of them killed. Let's not forget about the anti-semitism against jews, by "jews" in Israel! Fake jews and anti-humans are what they are.
Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies - Theodor Herzl
In the wake of the overthrow of the Taliban and the creation of a new government in Kabul, the project has once again come to light. However, the continued volatility of circumstances in the region suggests that it may take several years of political stability before the project could be seriously revived.
The afghan pipe line scheme would need assistance from both the Russians and Iran which will not happen. As seeing that all of the nations to the north of Afghanistan are part of CIS. The initial Bush plan was for international oil firms to compete but this would require an Ok from Afghanistan government and security; which will never happen. Keep swinging at Hay. Now go into depth about why you think whites are naturally atheistic.
Your a typical douchebag, And your full of yourself, You have a very arrogant point of view , it's easy to see yourself consumed, Grow up, and try to understand Human nature. get rid of your tunnel Vision, Maybe just maybe you'll grow a brain one day.
And stop Judging others, IF people wanna worship ants, Than so be it, You have no right to tell people what they should believe in.
Let people be, and get your hands out our affairs.
You have to understand That Maybe religion isn't right, or whatever , you have to realize if there wasn't any religion than this earth would be one huge mess, Try and get that through your brains, You don't go for the 1st step to the 10th with skipping everything in between
And How stupid of you to to call me science illiterate, I guess if you took your head out of your ass for just a tiny second than you'd realize that it was my ancestors who invented science, The world isn't black and white
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123backinyerface 1 year ago
Illogical Israel admitted to harvesting organs from dead palestinians including children illegally, also from foreign workers. It's very easy to see how Israel incites the muslim world 24 hours a day. That combined with the fact they assassinate elected officials, real nice.
AntiCominternPakt 1 year ago
Do you know that there are other religions beside abrahamic ones?Sanatana Dharma,a spiritual path of India guides you carefully into understanding why God exists,for example life comes from life,there is no example that life may come from matter,not one cell was created in labs.There is no eternal hell in dharmic beliefs of India but there is eternal spiritual world.The concept of karma and incarnation is the very base of their TOLERANCE and no need for conversions.
Vedantka 2 years ago
Honest debate is your weakness. I see now. You can't be honest about anything, and when someone points that out you act like commies do and censor. Pathetic. Even more pathetic is how you seek to appear neutral and impartial calling yourself a former christian when you are Jewish and lean towards zionism in every thought.
Why don't you make another worthless video pretending third world arab nations with no air force or navy are a threat? Jews rewrote immigration policy bringing them anyhow
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Honest debate is your weakness. You can't be honest about anything, and when someone points it out you act like commies do and censor.
You're like a cockroach scattering at the lights coming on.
Lying about Rape in Iraq is just today. I call you out on lies very often. Your entire philosophy on life is based on them afterall!
You have to delete my comments to continue existing, while I keep yours around as proof of your lies.
See this stark contrast? Everyone else does, but jew
LiarsCallTruthHate 2 years ago
Yeah and people aren't born knowing that fire is hot and cold is cold. You tell them, it's hot jackass, don't touch it.
Just like religious people tell their children, don't lie, don't steal, don't be a scumbag.
God is used as a medium to induce discipline.
Atheism is nothing but apathy and materialism.
The only good atheist, is a national socialist atheist. Any other is just uncouth and looked down on for their lack of moral backbone or ability to be trusted. Atheists have no conviction
AntiCominternPakt 2 years ago
@AntiCominternPakt LMAO @ U
123backinyerface 1 year ago
Indeed, it's indocrination into these primitive cults :) Any of us could make up our own personal religion, i mean i could wake up tomorrow and say i believe in the sun as my god, i mean it's real and i see it everyday. I could say it gives us life and created life, and therefore is the giver of life and has more validity to me as god, than any supposed prophet of god, they were men. All religion is the word of man, merely herding tools to control the masses...as you say, brainwashing.
fatboydim12 2 years ago
The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was being drained not Allah (SWT)
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
i am going now I stumped on how to help you understand. Only Allah (SWT) can save you from the Hellfire. I really don't know how else explain you. I just hope that one day you will open your eyes to truth and realize that scientist are also converting to Islam due to the Scientific Mircles in the Qur'an. Maybe someone else can explain you better than me. I hope that one day you find your answers to the existance of God and when you do may He bless you for you understanding. Bye bye now
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
bye. hope you enjoyed one starring my video.
cartier117 2 years ago
proudmuslimsister01
Such ridiculously errant ignorance. You blatantly and wilfully ignore modern scientific fact. All you have in truth is faith, blind faith in words spoken 1000's of years ago, and in your case a man in a cave who was probably halucinating, being dehydrated I expect, and of course married a six year old girl. Evoltion is just a question of TIME. Evolution is truth, religion is fallacy, and stifles thought :) good video btw
fatboydim12 2 years ago
I am ignorant it just amazes to me that the Qur'an speaks of this things long before any modern scientist discovered them. All of the Haters are just so stupid i cannot believe that i get one small piece of information and they just run with it. OMG talk about being blinded. (the "6 year old girl") that is what I talk about. Just stupid. I am not even going to waste any more of my time with someone like you and your buddies
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
After every revelation of Allah (SWT) to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) through the Angel Gabriel was extremely draining on him. So that is why Allah (SWT) choose a select few. He also Choose Good men because at the time the world was very corrupt. Many Sins were being commited. So for a non-believer to believe the words of a sinner would be more difficult than a non-believer believing the words of an honest man.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
draining? i thought your god created this universe. now your making him sound weak.
cartier117 2 years ago
And who is to say that they earth will not be destroyed before then?
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
no one. it will if people of faith like yourself have their way.
cartier117 2 years ago
That is why were are to amongst the world and spread the message.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
ah, i guess a mass showing was too much for god. he sounds weak.
cartier117 2 years ago
Only God last forever. Everything is meant to die out. Just as you get older everyday and year this universe is getting old and it is meant to eventually die. Humans may spead up the proccess due to our own stupidity. But you say you will be extinct yes we will. We will all die. Even if you believe that there is no God we will become extincted like the dinsours. And they did nothing wrong.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
which refutes your prior claim. also our species does not have to die out. once we achieve a stage 2 civilization we will never die out. right now we are at stage 0.
cartier117 2 years ago
God has sent to us Clear signs of His existance. He has sent to us His messangers (PBUT) to teach us. It is up to us to believe or not. God is not to blame if you don't want to believe.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
yet he did not send messangers to all people. he only sent them to isolated communities in roughly the same area. i mean god isn't even a popular concept. most eastern nations and religions have no gods. something you seem incapable of understanding.
cartier117 2 years ago
The existance of God is beyond our capability of understanding. I tell you how is it that all of creation stays in perfect harmony without an entity controling it? As I tell Christians who believe in 3 Gods How is it that all that exisit stays in harmony with three enities controling. It is impossible. There would be conflict. If God did not send messangers to us to reveal His word to us how is it that from the begining of humans does everyone believe in some sort of god or another?
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
creation is not in perfect harmony. our universe is degrading at a steady rate. in 5 billion years our star will explode. eventually all stars will go out. then as time space continue to expand atoms will be pulled a part. sorry. just the way it is. even in our current universe things are not habitable. at any given moment a gama ray could blow our atmosohere away. our current magnetic shield is degrading by 10% per hundred years. within 300 years if not fixed deadly radiation will begin to
cartier117 2 years ago
pour into our planet. killing all multicellular life.
hopefully men like me will reign. scientific adavance will continue without being slowed down. if people like me are not sucessful we will become extinct. just the way it goes.
cartier117 2 years ago
You are right man failed her. I never blame the science of it that is what was helping her. Anyways radical Christians are the ones who say earth is only 10 thousand year old. I am not Christian. I am Muslim. You are trying to disprove God & say we are illogical in our thinking? You cannot do it because Science still does not know the truth. & unitl they do my opinion will not change. God revealed Himself through his messangers (PBUT). It is up to us to believe. That is the power of freewill.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
we can not be accountable for how we were made by this being. he is to blame and no other
cartier117 2 years ago
Yes I can hold the medical field responsible. My sister was recovering. They neglected her. They failed to provide her with proper care. They turned their backs on her and looked the other way. So I will and continue to blames those who were involved with her case.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
i work in a kidney dialysis clinic. i work with 35 people a day. saving their lives. science didn't fail her man did. its rather simple.
cartier117 2 years ago
I know all to well about science saving lives even thought it did not save my sisters. i am working on doctorial degree in nursing. I don't bash science I question it. You still have not answered my question on who or what started the very first chain reaction.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
Interesting. I am now in the medical field myself. Also, I would like you to understand something. your sister died of something that eventually will be cured. You can not hold the medical field accountable for her death. Now my second point would be this. I and science may never have an answer for the very very very beginning. This does not prove the existence of god though. Negative proof is not in itself proof. You are attempting a maneuver known as shifting burden of proof.
cartier117 2 years ago
furthermore, the tea pot idea is thus. if a small teapot orbited the sun scientists as of now would never be able to disprove its existance. does this mean that the teapot is real? no it does not. If god exists why are their clear signs of evolution? why do holy books claim the earth is only 10thousand or less years old but scientists have revealed it is 4.5 billion? why did god not reveal himself in an obvious way so that curious people like myself could see and acknowledge his existence?
cartier117 2 years ago
Tell me where I am blurring my arguement and I explain you better.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
The theory of everything. Wow. I really mean WOW. If you don't have a theory of how the universe was created it goes under the M-Theory the theory of everything? And that is Logical? ;) I can just hear the scientist now "We don't know how this works or why it is. Lets put it under the category of the M-Theory. That will cover it!!!!" Come on man that is not Logical.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
the theory of everything is backed up via math, and what data we have obtained from not only observation, but the particle accelerator.also i would not bash the theory of everything because it is the only scientific theory that may prove the existence of a quantum central power, conscience or unconscious may never be known. do not bash science. it saves lives daily, sent us to the moon, and makes this conversation possible.
cartier117 2 years ago
Please do Enlighten me what is the M-theory? I have not heard of this one before.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
youtube search m-theory, and/or google it.
discover magazine
national geographic
subscribe to them.
i am no scientist what i gather is from them and class. mostly that is.
cartier117 2 years ago
a puppet to worship God. To have a puppet that you control. Humans worship God for their own benifit because God does not need or want anything. He ask us to worship Him to keep us focused on what is good & to help us fight off evil. As for Iraq I was just adding in because you say to all muslims have a evil religion. I just explain to you why were are fighting. & I explain to you that were are fighting for our lands just as America fights for hers. Or do you expect us to still & twiddle thumbs?
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
Islam is an evil religion. Religion IS evil. Your people where doing that said evil long before America was even found.
cartier117 2 years ago
furthermore what is the benefit of bronze age creation myths?
cartier117 2 years ago
What no response? I say to you lets disscuss your logic. Im interested to see how the universe was created with your logic if there is no original creator. Please explain me how that is logical. As for the Ostrich egg on the planet it is just an interpretation to the Holy Qur'an. Meaning that the world is not like a ball or the world is not flat like it was common to believe 1400 years ago. God gave us free will to make our own decisons whether to worship Him not. What is the purpose to create
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
oh so the whole natural must work only in certain ways but then you have this supernatural being that you can't prove exists that exists outside of it.
cartier117 2 years ago
you fail to realize the flaw in your own logic. lets look at your logic. tell me if there was no original creator or back to the dominos who or what started the first reation that caused the creation of the universe? The universe was created right? Who or what created it?
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
M-theory
Theory of Everything
cartier117 2 years ago
Whoa whoa whoa watch the language. have i called you any names? And you want to call muslims evil. that is just wow. Evil exist because the devil exist and there like i said before you cannot believe in one without the other. Any other species on the face of the planet evolves, Every other species is not evil. Humans are not born evil. If there is no devil there cannot be evil. We would just be another species on earth fighting for survival. Using our basic needs for survival. not killing just
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
your blurring your argument.
cartier117 2 years ago
You have not proved that God does not exist. you are ignoring your own logic. God cannot be created for he is the creator. He exist outside time and space as we know it. He had no body, He does not eat drink urinate or anything else so what is there to create. God cannot be seen. This is something that is beyond our capability of understanding.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
your just using the first cause argument.
theists make a special pleading to exempt God from their argument. If everything that exists must have a cause, who created God? Variations of this argument employ the first law of thermodynamics to imply that God has always existed because the first law of thermodynamics says matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Nice notion, but it still doesn't prove there's a God.
cartier117 2 years ago
It merely suggests there's more for us to understand, and every day scientists get closer to addressing these issues without referencing God or anything supernatural. If there's a recurring theme in any of these arguments, it's that you pick and choose which tenets of science you want to embrace (the ones that help prove their claims) and ignore all the rest as if they don't exist. These theories are part of a complex interconnected system.
cartier117 2 years ago
when I point out this flaw in your logic, you commit another logical fallacy: special pleading to claim that God is the exception to the rule and doesn't need to have a creator.
cartier117 2 years ago
7. Americans are not wanted in Iraq. One man's Terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Let me ask you when America is attaked are you expected to sit still and do nothing? Or are you going to respond by attacking back? I already know the answer to this question and it is that America is going to respond. What makes you think that Muslim countries are going to sit still while there lands are being invaded? Just like the Americas Muslims are going to defend the lands
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
now your talking about Iraq. your skirting the issues as usual. making a debate about my shit hole v. yours.
cartier117 2 years ago
6. At the end of this video you call muslims evil so therefore you are acknowledging the fact that there is evil which would call for a devil and there cannot be a devil without a God. You cannot possibly believe in one and not the other for the are both unseen entities. Muslims are not evil. We have denouced terrorism a long time ago. Yes there are extremist in every religion not just Islam. Zionist preform genocide on the Palestinians.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
For there to be moral law does not imply a moral law giver. you fail to understand this. morality is inherently objective. also, social structure is a product of evolution; which you don't understand so why bother?
cartier117 2 years ago
5. These things are just now being discovered in the 20th century, How is it possible that Muhammad (PBUH) knew these things. There is only one way and that is he was revealed it by the creator. You say that there is no God so that would mean that there is no Devil right? The devil is evil and causes people to do evil things. We were not born evil. If there is no God and no devil then there will be no good and no evil. The human species would be like everyother creature on this earth.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
which means we can not be blamed for our actions negating hell. this also means god shouldn't be worshiped if he is real because he is incapable or unwilling to stop evil.
cartier117 2 years ago
4. that it would be impossible for the Prohet Muhammad (PBUH) could not possibly have known. Here are the Examples: The deveopment of the human embryo, The sex of a baby coming from a woman, Mountains being rooted into the crust of the earth, The earth being like the shape of an ostrich egg, The preservation of the body of Pharoh Ramese, And many more. All of these things are mentioned in the Qur'an and are 100% correct.
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
the embryo thing is BS. I can prove it. Also, the earth is not the shape of an ostrich egg. it isn't spherical but it doesn't look like and egg. there were mummies seen at that time. all nobility was mummified. logic would say that ramese was as well. this also ignores the fact that there could have been previous mummies called ramese. No they are not. Your really going to force me to explain why the embryonic one isn't.
cartier117 2 years ago
3. falling. They would sit there forever until something pushes the first one then it starts the chain reaction eventually causing all the dominos to fall down. My Point here is There has to be a creator or One Being that is out side time and space to cause the first chain reaction and ultimately is the creator of the creation of our universe. God does not exist in the time and space as we know it. God Exist out side Time and Space. Also in the Qur'an there are scientific things that are true
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
who created god. your ignoring your own logic.
cartier117 2 years ago
2. responsible for creation, You have not disproved the existance of God. For every chain reaction including "The Big Bang Theory" there has to be something that started that chain reation. If before the chain reation everything all atoms were moving around in perfect harmony then all of a sudden they started to collide something had to make that happen. Lets look at the dominos. you line up the dominos on the floor and they are all sitting there in perfect harmony never moving and never
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
who created god
cartier117 2 years ago
1. I don't mean any disrespect but Muslims are illogical? You have counterdicted yourself in this video. you talk of we cannot prove that God exists and state that it is easily disproved that he exist. You use the watchmaker theory and say that all compicated life has to have a creator but basically say no it points to DNA then you talk about the magical Teapot that is there and it is "responsible for creation" that would me that it is the creator. I orginal creator. Something that is
proudmuslimsister01 2 years ago
wow your stupid on top of illogical.
cartier117 2 years ago
religion has caused more wars than any other cause. and thats ok by me. Semper Fi.
gizzisonic 2 years ago
5:36 - 5:42
WE???
you and atheist?
GlamoOur94 2 years ago
you all consider me to be an atheist
cartier117 2 years ago
well if you consirder yourself as an atheist then yes people will do the same
GlamoOur94 2 years ago
i consider myself secular
cartier117 2 years ago
then you probably shouldnt say we when talking about atheist = D
GlamoOur94 2 years ago
Why? I am a very secular person. Most of you all and christians consider me either an atheist or heritic
cartier117 2 years ago
well then you should prob follow your rleigion and start acting like a christian or better off become muslim you literally called yourself a atheist and you want us to consirder you a christian?
GlamoOur94 2 years ago
i don't care what you consider me to be.
i believe in science first and formost.
cartier117 2 years ago
Of course many of the Nazi individuals were also Catholic/clerical fascists. Also Nazism used people's faith - "kitchen, church, kids" for the German woman.
Also state controlled churches formed a formidable propaganda instrument. Which parallels your argument partly - religiously indoctrinated people are less apt to question, to really question with a result-open manner (which science is by definition) - therefore easier to control and incite.
dinavienna 2 years ago
yet here you see evil occultists trying to figure out the best way to manipulate. they turn to religion. this is why i am so aggressive against religious people.
cartier117 2 years ago
Yes, and I agree.
Religion is the one instrument that lets even atheist/anti-humanist evil ideologists control the masses best - because people are more willing to die with transcendental promises.
dinavienna 2 years ago
I hate to admit it, but atheism is not flawless, they do sometimes preach death (although I tend to agree they persecute others, on average, much less than religiously indoctrinated people). Most of the high Nazis were atheists. Himmler had a research project regarding the witch burning by the church. The title of the publication "Christian cruelty against Germanian women".
Also much of their killing was rooted in the conviction they constituted the height of nature, the "masters" of all.
dinavienna 2 years ago
You should have found a better example for Jewish fundamentalism than smashing babies' heads on rocks. I'm probably most critical of the Jewish religion and practice (because Judaism contains an inherent racism - God s people on the basis of blood), but I'm aware of this claim only from Catholicist sources that in medieval and early modern Europe led to the persecution of Jews.Child disappears, is found with a smashed head at the bottom of a mountain - Jewish ritual, isn't it obvious?!
dinavienna 2 years ago
I kept my criticism short on the 2 other religions short. since this was meant as a reply to a Muslim woman. me going out on a tangent about Jews would have just been a waste of time.
cartier117 2 years ago
Yes, I understand.
I would have then preferred you would not have mentioned the "baby killer" example, because it is one of the most propagandist/untrue allegations against Judaism (as I said, I think there is plenty to criticize, but this one antisemitic lie I am pretty uncomfortable with as it is used mostly by Muslim fundamentalists and in part even state TV today, and by the Catholic church in dark centuries).
dinavienna 2 years ago
You CAN'T disprove God by asking who created Him because we can say "I don't know", just as you do. but I still believe in God. why?
Peacefulrules2 2 years ago
Mohamed acknowledged Judaism and Christianity as God's religion and said that Allah & Jehovah are One & the same God. but his teachings contradicts the teachings of both Jesus Christ & Jehovah or YAHWEH, which proves that Mohamed was actually False. Jesus Christ allowed himself to be killed and showed us what Unconditional Love is, God's Love.. Loving your enemies. He could have turned his followers against the Romans and saved himself. If He was false, then WHY would he NOT do that?
Peacefulrules2 2 years ago
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xxXxheartlessxXxx 2 years ago
Funny thing is, there is no way to use Biblical scripture to support tellign someone else they are going to hell, the Bible is very clear that the only one who decides, is GOD, and when you stand before him, your own words, condemn you.
So...I would appreciate if for the sake of honesty, you would remain true to scripture.
Try comparing Matthew 5, with say, Sura 9, and I think you will see, you are comparing apples and rotten cow patties.
BreshiBaraElohim 2 years ago
oh you mean the sura that is only about war huh?
Also this video is primarily about Islam lets stay on topic.
cartier117 2 years ago
Stay on topic? If it is about Islam, why is the first slide about the Bible?
If this is really an excersise in Truth, then such a simply poor methodology would not be used.
I am suggesting you corect this error, which is essentially a strawman, for the sake of keeping your message one based on facts.
How would you like it if I said, ''Chairman Mao was an Atheist and he killed millions of intelligent people so his country would be easier to control; so Atheist like to kill people.
BreshiBaraElohim 2 years ago
If you want to argue in a logically sound mannor, I think you should include words from the Qur'an, Sura 9, to show your poiunt is valid.
I don't think you will have much luck finding such in the Gospel, without taking things seriously OUT of context; which would not be in the best interests of TRUTH; if that is truly your goal.
If you have another agenda contrary to the truth, then cary on; you are serving that spirit well.
BreshiBaraElohim 2 years ago
why don't I just quote the radical sheiks who utilize it to justify conquest.
aslo while we are having this discussion go ahead and tell me why it was ok for Muslims to invade entire nations unprovoked and conquer them? hmmm tell me that tell me about why rape and pillage is justified in your religion.
oh thats right your invisibe friend says so ok got it.
cartier117 2 years ago
I am not muslim you fool.
BreshiBaraElohim 2 years ago
yet you defend a faith that would force humanity backwards.
cartier117 2 years ago
HUH? What faith did I defend?
BreshiBaraElohim 2 years ago
breshibara,
no
i took the time to attack the other illogical religions as well.
and you little slide of hand at the bottom can't ever be argued atheism isn't a group or ideology.
cartier117 2 years ago
Atheism is nothing without Theism.
BreshiBaraElohim 2 years ago
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ChristianIrishNation 2 years ago
u r gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cartererrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
TheNadiaCarot 2 years ago
ummmmm should that make any diffence to me??
LalaThepaliGirl 2 years ago
yes. going along blindly and demanding death and theocratic government is immoral. Which I am making a video right now that is only about the History of Islam.
cartier117 2 years ago
we believe god
and we believe he is one he don't have a son, wife, or a monkey
he is one
and mohammed is his last prophet to send
so we believe in all the others he sent
like moses jesus ibrahim and others
no we shouldn't force people to convert but we must talk them to it and explain in a smart peaceful way
now you are gay so is your video
stop being an ignorant i don't hate christains because my religion asked me to respect now
grow up and stop drinking before speaking lol
LalaThepaliGirl 2 years ago
watch the both of the videos. I attacked theocratic thought. As I say in the video.
cartier117 2 years ago
Hey I used to think Star Wars was true. ;)
hehehe Great video my friend. 5 *
TangoDancerGirl4Life 2 years ago
and i think i'd rather say people are born agnostic. They dont' really know either way. They are born without the knowledge of specific deities though. Atheism is more of a knowledgeable state, where one becomes one after much thought(although not always hehe)
ashleypoo1319 2 years ago
agnostics then?
cartier117 2 years ago
Agnostics perhaps. Would they even know that there would be either way? The only evidience that points to any direction is God on the Brain part 4.
And the next time you see a child, under 6-7. Tell them to do something, if they don't (and are not high on kiddy drugs) they're atheist. If they do, then they're muslim. If they waver, they're agnostic. If they say "jesus loves you", damn, christian missionary starts young.
faro0485 2 years ago
They start out as atheist?
Where's the proof? Because atheist is rejection of theism. Atheism is the position that deities do not exist. If you don't agree, then change wikipedia.
Typical white man trying to put a black religion down.
faro0485 2 years ago
people at birth hold 0 faith. we are brought up to believe in government and to believe in something unverifiable.
Islam is not a black religion either. Your playing the race card. I will not tolerate bigotry on my page. Knock it off or you will be banned.
cartier117 2 years ago
Most people are not of zero faith. They are by birth 100% muslim. Why? Because of the meaning of the word is more suitable. Muslim means someone who submits, or makes peace with. And children do as they're told. They obey their mothers. Organically. This was made evident in Jamie Olivers school dinners part 2. I'll send you the link. Please note that 40% of Africa is muslim. And since you're an atheist, 40% is christian as well. How many atheists are black?
faro0485 2 years ago
What would race have to do with any of it? 90% of africa sucks. I said people at birth have zero "faith" in any deity. People are born atheists then brought into by coercion into a religion. There is zero proof of god. Just because you have a narrow imagination and can not under stand eternity does not mean I am lacking in one. Also your play on words means nothing to me so stop trying to draw parallels. If you have a point or message express one.
cartier117 2 years ago
It actually makes sense, atheism is a religion for the rich. That's why there are so few atheists in jail, but so many blacks in jail.
You said people have zero "faith" at birth, but most newborns can't even talk. So newborns being atheist, that is subjective, without any evidence, imagination is not evidence. But as for being muslim, the word does match the behaviour, especially since it requires 100% faith to put something in your mouth, as babies do.
faro0485 2 years ago
Faith and Instinct are two separate things. Using your same logic dogs are theists. The amount of blacks in jail has everything to do with single parent homes. 70% of all people in jail are from single parent homes. When you take out the single parent factor the amount of blacks v. whites in the prison system are the same percapita. So stop playing the class warfare, and race cards they don't work. Atheism is not a white attribute. You could easily reference to europe 100 years ago.
cartier117 2 years ago
The logic I used, was to apply a word that describes the behaviour of newborns and children. And they are innocent from any suggestion of rejecting deities. Atheism and secularism occurs in either in two cases. Excess wealth, or forced state atheism.
faro0485 2 years ago
You think wealth makes us secular? You need to rethink your position sir. If you were to take a group of children tell them nothing of god they would never develop a religious view. If you keep them devoid of science as well I would assume you would begin to see a lord of the flies scenario.
cartier117 2 years ago
Wealth not only makes you secular but it also attacks science. Ask the muslims who went through maraboutism thanks to Al ghazali.
War makes you religious and scientific. We can ask the nazis & USSR vs USA.
If you give the children, and tell them nothing of God. What you mean like in Albania 1967-1991? Or as in most humanities classes at uni?
faro0485 2 years ago
what are you talking about?
The USSR lagged behind the US the whole time. The only advancements they had where during the space race, but this was due to nazi influences through Project Paper clip.
Also why is it that Islam never had any substantial scientific breakthrough? Don't give me some shit about Islams golden age that was just because they united ideas from distant lands. Also where are all of the great muslim poets, and composers?
cartier117 2 years ago
Communist (atheist) USSR vs theistic US
That gives one for the theists. Theistic warmongering Nazis adds to science as well.
Are you refer to arabic poetry? What about Muhammad Iqbal's works? The Europeans have been at war against the muslims since Islam came up. We've seen it, we experienced it, you've not because of the propaganda.
"Neil tyson alghazali" youtube it. The single individual who brang down the muslims.
faro0485 2 years ago
He was born in 1877 your religion has been around since the 7th century. You could not name one name until the 19th century.
You all invaded Byzantium, Persia, and India first. Do not manipulate history.
cartier117 2 years ago
I named Muhammad Iqbal because of his missing Nobel price in literature.
The muslims didn't invade anywhere, without being attacked first. That's the rule. If they attack, attack back. If they make peace, peace. If they break the treaty... no second peace treaty. And the muslims went to india in the 7th century, without any war. You forgot to add China. Classical music came from the islamic civilization, which technically lead to the fall of the muslims.
faro0485 2 years ago
And if they united lands (which isn't actually true) and ideas. Then that adds favour to Islam.
faro0485 2 years ago
force of will and conquest for you invisible friend isn't positive.
cartier117 2 years ago
Actually, if you believe in science, then you're either going to believe in war, or force of will as Kenedy desired for space race.
faro0485 2 years ago
Actually, wrong again. Although war can push government to give more money to science is not prowar. If you read any of the books written by lead scientists or papers published by secular science groups you would know this.
cartier117 2 years ago
wiki it "islamic golden age" and go to the music section.
faro0485 2 years ago
Great Mosque of Xi'an--Chinese Architects used to construct it.
Great Mosque of Samarra-- Christian architects were imported to work.
Great Mosque of Cordoba--A gothic church stolen by muslims, and expanded upon by christian slave labor. Some of the Architects working on it were later executed so they could not repeat the production in christian lands.
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cartier117 2 years ago
Great Mosque of Xi'an - built over 4 dynasties from 742ad. By this time, the muslims of China would most likely be chinese...
Great Mosque of Samarra - a version like the Mosque of Al-Mutawwakil. Fikri 1961, dissmissed such a suggestion
Mosque of Cordoba - Medieval Islamic Civilization, Josef W. Meri and Jere L. Bacharach, Published by Routledge, 2005 , p. 176 ff - bought, not stolen, and then exmpanded. Stealing is forbidden, with amputation of hand punishment.
faro0485 2 years ago
as opposed to Arab invaders. So you admit that Arabs invade and conquer to convert. Thanks.
I spent 18 months in Iraq we were briefed on your religious structures from their beginning to current standing. I trust military intelligence.
Furthermore, No it wasn't bought. That is like saying the European purchase of Land was legitimate. Islam invaded raped and tortured the goths and then destroyed their books and as much of their culture as possible.
cartier117 2 years ago
Military propaganda. Did they tell you about the suicide rate among vetrans or those in Iraq? Or about the soldiers that went nuts on his own company, and killed 5? Perhaps you've learnt that since you came back?
When the muslims took over spain, the Visagoths enemy was Rome. It was the inquisitious book burning that burnt the books, not muslims. Islam raping and torturing, is a contradiction of the quran and muhammad. You have no evidence.
faro0485 2 years ago
jack ass. The goths preserved roman culture. You are wrong. Now you lying. The Roman empire had already fallen and during the time of Muslim expansion was a dwindled ghost town. We are talking about Islam. You also are wrong again I suggest you read up before you spam. Military propaganda? Oh yes because a vast amount of soldiers are not muslim. The soldier who killed 5 did not do it due to the war. Read up on that as well. But what do I know I am only an E-5 in the United States Army.
cartier117 2 years ago
Err... I think you should refer to the gothic war.
The report came out this month, and you're saying you know why it happened?
Aye that's a low rank. Wait until you get to captain.
faro0485 2 years ago
I am enlisted I will not ever achieve the rank of captain.
Unlike the Officer core the enlisted rise through the ranks and have experience. We are the Army.
cartier117 2 years ago
So the much vaunted Islamic renaissance was in fact a renaissance of the Persian (Zoroastrian) converts to Islam during the Persianized Abbasiad Caliphate. During the first four caliphs Abba (Abu) Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali (the last three who were murdered by other Muslims in cold blood) and the Ummayad caliphate at Damascus, there was no such thing like the Islamic Renaissance,
cartier117 2 years ago
Refer to Ingrid Hehmeyer, PhD
faro0485 2 years ago
No. I spent 16 years in indoctrination. I am spending 3 more. I will read the correct version. I do not need to read modern adjustments. Refer to my reading list. for my flavor of reading.
cartier117 2 years ago
it was the Persian North African and Egyptian converts who had a pre-Islamic legacy of being civilized, which they carried forward after being converted to Islam.
cartier117 2 years ago
They didn't have much.
faro0485 2 years ago
Vacuum statement. The weight of history disagrees.
cartier117 2 years ago
The weight of history becomes diluted the further back you try to make your argument on that event.
faro0485 2 years ago
In fact Islam tried to smother their pre-Islamic legacy of culture and civilization, and so it was only after the initial flush of Islamic savagery had passed over, that the newly converted people could after a generation or so pick up the threads of a civilized life. The Islamic Renaissance happened not due to Islam, but in spite of Islam being around. The Islamic Renaissance was not a triumph of Islam, but a triumph of the human spirit over Islam.
cartier117 2 years ago
There was no pre-islamic legacy. Other than paganism, and the Justinian plague.
Those so called humans were using islamic methods of civilization.
The west has never wanted to accept Islam. They first labelled that period as the dark ages. Then touted enlightenment. All the while labelling islam in such demonic terms. And even still, when scholarship has turned it's bigoted pass, there are some that will want to hold on to their past.
faro0485 2 years ago
No they were not. Stop with your play on terms and twisting history.
cartier117 2 years ago
The only one twisting history, was those who taught you as so. You believed them. Even though they have been declared liars. Where's the WMD in iraq? In the desert? In Iran, Syria, and lebanon? In the skulls of muslim men, women and children? Who's twisting what?
faro0485 2 years ago
Emotional appeal
stay on topic
we are not discussing Iraq
cartier117 2 years ago
"I spent 18 months in Iraq we were briefed on your religious structures from their beginning to current standing. I trust military intelligence."
You brang it in.
faro0485 2 years ago
No I said something about a building. You countered I told you I refuse to read Muslim apologist propaganda. You went into a tirade about Iraq.
cartier117 2 years ago
You said "Arabs invade and conquer to convert".
The most recent invasion is by the Americans into Afghanistan (for oil pipelines), and then Iraq (for more oil control).
According to the "American Plans to Convert Iraq into Christianity" video here on youtube, it's the Americans who are - with evidence - trying to convert the poor they placed sanctions on, and then bombed. Arabs doing the same to christians... the only evidence is orientalistic works.
faro0485 2 years ago
Your twisting again. You have no idea what you are talking about, and furthermore none of us give a shit about converting you. Name one specific military directed movement that was aimed at conversion. Name one specific action taken by the US military with the pure aim of monopolizing on any natural resources.
cartier117 2 years ago
I gave you evidence for the president supporting the conversion of Iraqis.
faro0485 2 years ago
no you didn't you gave me a vacuum statement. I want a specific time date and name. Not conjecture.
cartier117 2 years ago
I've sent you a link:
w)ww. pubrecord. org/religion/76-us-soldiers-launch-campaign-to-convert-iraqis-to-christianity-. html
faro0485 2 years ago
your such an ass
you fail again
still waiting for proof of resource based conflict.
cartier117 2 years ago
Now you want resource based conflict?
news. bbc. co. uk /1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269. stm
news. bbc. co. uk/1/hi/world/south_ asia/1626889. stm
w)ww. slate. com/?id=2059487
It wasn't just the pipes... but the pipes.
news. bbc. co. uk/1/hi/business/2814861. stm
And users said "God bless america"
faro0485 2 years ago
That is from 2005
the top that is
I couldn't get the other links to work.
Look at the CFR or look for new links. The Bush administration changed plans and is not using Iraqi oil to pay back the war effort. Anyways there is not enough oil in Iraq to pay back the total cost of the war. Think out your theories before you attempt to pass them off as factual.
Afghan pipe lines
cartier117 2 years ago
"There's not enough oil in Iraq to pay back the total cost" - yet Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world. Oh right, US friendly companies gained the contracts and then declared this eh?
w)ww. globalpolicy. org/security/oil/irqindx. htm
faro0485 2 years ago
The price of the war continues to increase. Now we are finally pulling out but the oil is not ours. It belongs to the Iraqi government. Now answer what I said before.
cartier117 2 years ago
Pseudo Iraqi puppet government?
With contracts going to the companies that have connections with your country's government?
faro0485 2 years ago
yea its a puppet government. that is why it has gone against coalition wishes numerous times and was voted for in an election.
so tell me something. You want to have a theocratic muslim state huh? And I want YOU to explain why you despise jews and whites so much.
cartier117 2 years ago
No muslim despises another people, that would contradict the teachings of Islam.
As for the jews, moses had 3000 of them killed. Let's not forget about the anti-semitism against jews, by "jews" in Israel! Fake jews and anti-humans are what they are.
Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies - Theodor Herzl
Oh... he too was a jewish atheist.
faro0485 2 years ago
In the wake of the overthrow of the Taliban and the creation of a new government in Kabul, the project has once again come to light. However, the continued volatility of circumstances in the region suggests that it may take several years of political stability before the project could be seriously revived.
cartier117 2 years ago
The afghan pipe line scheme would need assistance from both the Russians and Iran which will not happen. As seeing that all of the nations to the north of Afghanistan are part of CIS. The initial Bush plan was for international oil firms to compete but this would require an Ok from Afghanistan government and security; which will never happen. Keep swinging at Hay. Now go into depth about why you think whites are naturally atheistic.
cartier117 2 years ago
You forget that your country and those former soviet countries, are under the same control.
faro0485 2 years ago
Hey Carter, The Crusaders have done the same exact thing, And yes, They also collected taxes for the Big Fat Ass who was sitting in the Vatican.
Faraoh08 2 years ago
hey fuck face watch my video
i talk about the crusades.
cartier117 2 years ago
WTF, Why are you being so nasty? Is that how people in your family greet each other, Morning fuck Faces.
You know something carter, Why don't you try to prove there isn't a GOD, The burden of proof in on you CHUMP.
I got news for you, why don't you let people believe in whatever they wanna believe in, Who are you to pass judgment on others.
Something else, I'm NOT a Muslim and I feel offended by they way you talk down to people.
And there's is no such thing as the big bang.
Faraoh08 2 years ago
Fuck off
your making the claim not me you prove it
don't come half way into a battle an presume to understand it.
I am sick of assholes like yourself not watching the entire video and making a lame comment. fuck off.
cartier117 2 years ago
Your a typical douchebag, And your full of yourself, You have a very arrogant point of view , it's easy to see yourself consumed, Grow up, and try to understand Human nature. get rid of your tunnel Vision, Maybe just maybe you'll grow a brain one day.
And stop Judging others, IF people wanna worship ants, Than so be it, You have no right to tell people what they should believe in.
Let people be, and get your hands out our affairs.
Faraoh08 2 years ago
No because religion is dangerous and holds people and culture back.
your a science illiterate.
cartier117 2 years ago
You have to understand That Maybe religion isn't right, or whatever , you have to realize if there wasn't any religion than this earth would be one huge mess, Try and get that through your brains, You don't go for the 1st step to the 10th with skipping everything in between
And How stupid of you to to call me science illiterate, I guess if you took your head out of your ass for just a tiny second than you'd realize that it was my ancestors who invented science, The world isn't black and white
Faraoh08 2 years ago
everything your saying has been refuted. i am tired of assholes like you not thinking for yourself.
cartier117 2 years ago