I'm a gay mormon convert. I converted two years ago. I turn 19 in one month and I just handed in my mission papers today(sunday). I told my bishop via text message after I left. We're talking about it in 3 days. Now I just found this, pretty cool.
@jjbellon22 On the contrary, they can be Mormon. Don't quote me on this, but I feel like, a homesexual person is a mental defect, much like autism, or something similar. I don't mean to be rude by saying that. So it's just a challenge God has placed upon them. I can't imagine how tough it is for homosexual people.
As an active Mormon, I really respect this guy. He is really mature about everything, and it takes a really strong person to push through something so challenging with a positive attitude. kudos.
What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent God His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have everlasting life!
I can totally relate to your experience as a gay mormon. I ended up getting married. Now, three years later, I'm divorced. But as you explained so eloquently, what option do you have if you choose to stay in the church other than trying to make it work with a woman?
Yeah, well it's not fair to the women when the husband is addicted to pornography. And it's not fair to the husband when the wife is a gossiping liar. Nobody is perfect... and I'm not sure how people come to the conclusion that being homosexual is worse than any of these other sins.
Mind you, homosexuality is a grave problem. But I respect all homosexuals that remain in the church to struggle with this issue.
"Is this supposed to be like ajoke or something? "
I am not sure, so you are saying you think this Book of Mormon is a joke? You may be onto something, I have checked and it was only invented by an American man in the 19th centruy! You might be right.
this guy has a split personality. Religious, and gay, pick one. He goes from acting feminine, to acting religious and spiritual. jesus said you can't serve 2 masters.
@jkulesha Don't be a douche. Don't get me wrong, I don't support homosexuality but there is nothing wrong with a desire to be closer to God and to be religious. You are far from perfect yourself and I'm positive you have your own trials and vices, we all do, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't go to church or try to be religious and be better. Do you think Christ would turn away a follower of his if that follower happened to be gay? Of course not. Think things through before you say it.
I'm an Elder in the Mormon Church, they should have never baptized this guy if he was gay, if he doesn't repent he won't inherit God's kingdom because the book of mormon says no unclean things can dwell with God. He knows this, the entire video is on his conflict with homosexuality and the church. he told me hes been with a man for 5 years and is happy. But yes me being subject to sin that I might overcome it, have known the misery of sin, and that it is contrary to Gods nature
@jkulesha Oh please. You are a self righteous prick. You're not an Elder anymore unless you're still on a mission or a part of the General Authority, which you aren't. I went on a mission I'm married in the temple and I hold the Melchizedek priesthood myself. Look at my page. I'm very active in the church. I know very well that no unclean thing can dwell in the presence of God. Guess what, you're just as unclean as he is. You just have a different set of sins and temptation.
@Nixmix24 You are condemned and not worthy to hold the priesthood and if you don't repent the justice of the Lord will surely fall upon you even as the sword of the Lord spoken in the book of mormon, I don't know who you think you are, and you think God is Mocked, and if you knew anything about the Priesthood, maybe if you Read your certificate if you really had one, it says I am ORDAINED AN ELDER IN THE MELCHIZEDEK PRIESTHOOD and it doesn't really matter, there were apostles who became apostat
@jkulesha Haha wow you're a freak. I'm not worthy to hold the priesthood because I'm calling you out on your lie and your hypocrisy? Well it's a good thing you aren't my Bishop. Your fire and brimstone talk doesn't scare me. Have you ever heard of unrighteous dominion? Look it up. You are everything that is wrong with our Church. You are not God. Sorry to break it to you. You are no longer an Elder. You hold the office but nobody calls you an elder anymore besides yourself.
@jkulesha You still haven't answered my question. What did I say that was blasphemous? You aren't God. You are just an insecure, self righteous, redneck, hypocrite. You are nothing. Your priesthood means nothing to me because you are trying to force your unrighteous dominion and trying to use it to win an argument. Very Christlike of you.
If anything you seem like the many who have problems with sin who forget that jesus said,"be perfect as I, or your father in heaven is perfect." 3 Nephi 12:48
@jkulesha I forgot to add the part of how many priesthood leaders try to exemplify the 'atonement' to forget about the role of being perfected, even Joseph Smith said,"those that cannot abide a celestial law cannot dwell there."
Not to mention I never ONCE said I was Sinless, so your trying to Humble me or make me confess my sins is deff NOT your job, and your pleasure shouldn't be in making everyone confess their inadequacy, for if every man is unclean before God where is God's pleasure.
@jkulesha I could care less about your sins, which are many. When did I ask you to confess anything? You just don't get it. You think that you are in a position to judge but you AREN'T. YOU are not a judge. You aren't a bishop, or a Stake President, or anything higher than an RM. That's all little boy.
@Nixmix24 I hope you get excommunicated after I call your bishop and go over all these things you had to say, like I said people like you make me sick, and you must know nothing about God, and NO I'm NOT gay, and thats probably why you are even on this guys page is cuz you are NOT me... so get over yourself cuz your mad like those who gnashed their teeth at the prophets when they said,"how shall we look when we are damned?" and thus the building fell on them with a loud crash." Get over yourself
@jkulesha Haha oh please. I'm quite sure he will have o put the phone down so he doesn't offend you because he is laughing so hard. You can judge me all you want but it still doesn't make a difference. You are a nobody in the church.
Oh you just keep getting better. I must be gay because I am on this page? I'm pretty sure you were the first one on this page, homo.
@jkulesha Do you know what projection is? Everything you are saying should be directed at yourself. You obviously have an issue with pride judging by your language. I know that I'm right and you have yet to show me how I'm wrong. All you do is say that I'm this and that but you can't back it up with anything. You aren't the authority in the church and you never will be. I'm sure I understand the teachings of the church far better than you do. Thus, I'm calm. You'll see if you call that I'm right
@Nixmix24 Don't even try to disrespect a priesthood holder without understanding even whaet the priesthood is, the authority or what he tells people to do. Jesus told me LONG BEFORE I WAS MORMON to testify of him and preach the gospel which includes repentance, and if you even read the book of mormon you would see he sent all his followers to 'preach nothing save repentance' so get out of here.
@jkulesha Like I've said before, you are a nobody. You are the one disrespecting the priesthood with your self righteous behavior. You aren't a prophet, you aren't in any position to say the things you say. You speak for yourself, not Christ. You have no authority over me. Nice try though.
@jkulesha HAHAHA oh wow... just because you aren't gay, (you probably aren't out of the closet at least) that doesn't make it ok for you to pretend to be perfect. You are FAR from perfect little boy. You aren't speaking the word of God when you tell people that they shouldn't go to church if they have sinned or are sinning. How about you justify YOUR words with scripture. Show me where it says that a sinner can't be religious. I'll eat that page. If that's true. NOBODY should be religious. Idiot
@jkulesha Yes I am because that's what this whole argument is based off of! How about you answer the question instead of avoiding it? You won't answer because you know you're wrong which makes your whole argument on here wrong. Now go ahead and show me where you are speaking the word of God and not just your own. Go ahead. I'm waiting.
There is no argument, your spirit stands judged before Christ, and your words condemn you, don't you know that jesus said,"for every idle word men shall speak they shall give account of it on the day of judgement."
But apparently you haven't learned the Fear of the Lord.
@jkulesha The only one doing the judging here is you right now. I have nothing to hide and what I say I would say in front of my priesthood authorities because i am right.
You aren't the Lord and you don't speak in the name of the Lord. You have yet to back anything up. AGAIN SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT SINNERS SHOULDN'T BE RELIGIOUS.
@jkulesha Uh how about you read the very first comment. You said that if you're gay you can't be religious. Which is totally false and your own words.
@Nixmix24 again I quoted scriptures mr. Melchizidek Priesthood Holder, but maybe you don't understand that and still harden your heart against the word of the Lord trying to justify yourself. 3 Nephi 13:24
No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and Mammon." Luke 16:13
That was my first comment, assuredly if you are offended by this, take it up with Jesus, he said it.
@jkulesha No you quote scripture that aren't applicable. Take your 3rd Nephi scripture for example. You aren't the lord and you aren't speaking in the name of the lord because you ar speaking for yourself. You try to argue with scripture to justify your own actions and the nonsense that comes out of your mouth.
No you left out half of your first comment. The half that was your own words and the half that we have been talking about. You should probably stop twisting scripture to fit your agenda.
"But apparently you haven't learned the Fear of the Lord""
Ah I don't much about the Lord because I was brought up as a Chinggis. But I am most interested in your God and to follow him I wish.
Can ask with your God, is he a great dictator and destroyer of things. You use his powers to cow his foes into praising him on pain of punishment. Would he punish men for simply disobeying? He sounds like a great Nuchrinkate, like the great Stalin or Gengis Khan.
And the Lord God said unto me: They shall be a scourge unto thy seed, to stir them up in remembrance of me; and inasmuch as they will not remember me, and hearken unto my words, they shall scourge them even unto destruction.
@ma049 I said,"without holiness nobody shall see god. Hebrews 12:14 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord." And I don't understand your words concerning the vernate jesus God and destroying Good. Jesus is the law, the book of mormon says,"God cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance." For him to not rebuke, confront, chastise, or bring justice upon sin, is for him to allow it and not executing the law, and there would be no law
Hi Jkulesha, I have been a bit puzzled. I think you may have a mistake. Your book of Nephi doesn't seem to be a real holy book. I can't find it in the Bible anywhere?
Can you tell me where it is in the Bible? I want to read more of teh truths you speak.
@ma049 Is this supposed to be like ajoke or something? like a "Bible is the only true book thing? It's in the book of mormon, go get your free copy at mormon.org. this video is about a MORMON> read nephi at scriptures.lds.org
A holy book is only holy to those who esteem it as scriptures, just cuz one man said the bible is holy doesn't meen God ever said it was the only book, and for those quoting revelation, saying it was never to be added to, yea for johns book, so don't add to his words
@ma049 Why would I like men if I am telling people to repent of their sins and run frokm this evil offense toward God. And for everyone else reading the comments about NiXMIX24 toward me and his blatent disrespect toward God and the priesthood, there is no way you should ever join the church if you are not committed to keeping the commandments. Which is first to Love God with all your heart soul mind and strength and 2nd to love your neighbor as himself. He has clearly failed to do this.
@Nixmix24 I never said I was God, it's sad because deep down you know you sinned, but you think this is an argument and your pride wants to hold onto it for some vain hope of glory when in reality you wont humble yourself. If you know anything about God you know he uses the vain and foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and if you aren't listening for God to speak to you through anyone or anything, and you are bound up in traditions of men, you truly have not understood God.
@Nixmix24 It's so sad how you try to now throw back at me and accuse me of what you are guilty of. I guess you close your ears when you hear the prophets speak of daily repentance in the church, and o this must hurt bad, yes even the children when they speak.
How about you humble yourself and read this. lds.org/scriptures/nt/matt/23.28?lang=eng#27
27Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
You truly are one of these that has crept into the church, I they believes your lies in interviews
Well, isn't sexual attraction have an involuntary component? Think about your statement Mr jkulesha. You could ethically be opposed to homosexuality, yet still have the feeling within you.
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Just you could have spiteful thoughts even though you know being spiteful is not right.
Book of Mormon - 2 Nephi 29:3 " And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible. UAdd a Note 4But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible, and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them?" That is a prophecy written 600 BC
It is amazing they have translated this from ancient scrolls? Wow, it so amazing that the patterns speech from the text match so well that of Anglo-Saxons English Americans.
I think this was probably providence on Gods part?
This is good learning, I have not heard of this bit of the Lords word. I would like to know more (although ethnically I think I am not permited to join this organisation). But thank you Mr Jkulesha,.
May I ask you question of scriptures? Who was the Angel Maron?
@ma049 The angel MoronI was the son of Mormon, lds.org/scriptures/bofm/moro?lang=eng ,who buried the 'metal plates' of mormon unto the Lord to be brought forth in the last days, *1820s*. He appeared to Joseph Smith a few years after he had his first vision telling him he had a work to do. Which after he was worthy eventually recieve the Plates his Father Mormon wrote, and translate them into English by the Power of God. The Plates began by the prophet nephi were abridged by mormon
What sort metal are these plates made from. Are they metallurgical consistent with the technology of the time they were said to be made in.
Has there be independent testing of technique used to engrave? Did this Angel Moron i set down and use a sharp tool to engrave, or use corrosive engraving. Or think this, if he change the shape of metal by holy power there would be no tool marks!!! It would literally prove the Divine!
@ma049 The record was written on metal plates like inscribing, the lord did many miracles as you read in the book of mormon . go to mormon.org and request a free copy and missionaries will bring it to you and you can ask them questions. you can also find a church near you on there. mormon.org
"The record was written on metal plates like inscribing, "
My friend, there are two ways two inscribe metal plate; carving into its surface or corroding the surface with an acid or mordant substance. A simple examination of the plates will determine which technique. I could determine it myself.
So were are the plates that I might look on them? Are they displayed publically?
@ma049 The plates were given back to the angel after they were translated you have the book to read yourself, I told you to get a free copy at mormon.org... they are spiritual matters contained theron anyway, so if you can't have faith or get answers from God then your gonna have a hard time.
I am confused here. Please help me understand Mr Jkulesha.
"The plates were given back to the angel after they were translated you have the book to read "
But only before Mr Smith had had time to show them to others to verify the autheticity of his claims? Surely this is the case. Which academics did he petetion to examine his angelic gift?
"spiritual matters contained theron anyway"
But you said they WERE delivered in physical tangible form. Are you now saying this is irelevant?
"so if you can't have faith or get answers from God then your gonna have a hard time."
You are asking me to have faith in your claim that a set of real physical tangeble metal plates exisited. We are taking about a faith in God, we are talking about a faith in the existance of metal plates.
God has not told me of the metal plates; you (a mortal) has. And you were told by a mortal who was told by a mortal.
Mr Jkulesha, please think about what you are saying. You aren't God.
As my friend Mr McCellan has just correctly pointed out I ommited to mention the technique of stamping metal plate in order to impress a design or words on the surface.
@Nixmix24 Jesus said, "whoever is not with me is against me." he also said,"whoever sins against the greater light shall recieve the greater condemnation." He also said,"whoever recieves you recieves me." I don't think you get it your words are against his law, NOT me, and obviouisly he gives you a free will to speak so because you have not so learned christ nor understand him.
@jkulesha And what exactly did I say that is against his law? You aren't Christ. I'm against you and your hypocrisy and your judgement. You do realize that you shouldn't be judging right? You are not in a position to do so. You aren't his priesthood leader or mine. Like I said before, Your fire and brimstone talk means nothing because you'r just a self righteous, self important, hypocrite. "he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone" How many stones have you cast so far lately?
Ezekiel says,"he who tells those they will burn in hell but tell them not to repent is condemned."
I have not once said not to repent. The book of mormon is full of prophets who preached repentance or judgement. Or did you not read the first book in the book of mormon how lehi was desired to be murdered because he spoke the truth. And you continue to gnash your teeth as one of them because I speak the law of God with plainness and you do not humble yourself but cover your sin
@jkulesha Christ said, "he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone" I'll stick with the higher law thank you. You are in no position to tell anyone that they will burn in Hell because you have no authority over anyone. Keep throwing your stones though.
The difference is, YOU'RE NOT A PROPHET. You can't call anyone to repentance.
Again, where does it say that sinners shouldn't go to church? That's exactly what you are saying. You are the one in need of humbling "elder."
@Nixmix24 I'm not a prophet... your funny, they should do more excessive interviews before they ordain people or call people on a mission make them take a test or something, joseph smith said,"everyone that testifies of jesus christ is a prophet, because it takes the spirit of revelation and prophecy to do so." You make me sick and I'm sure the Lord feels the same way. Keep Glorying in your own opinion.
@jkulesha Haha oh wow. You actually think you are a prophet? Possible as you testify of Christ you are in that you have the SPIRIT of prophecy but you aren't testifying of Christ while you tell people that sinners shouldn't be religious. You should read the last half of D&C 121: 37 starting with "To exercise control or dominion.." and ending with "Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man." This applies to you, buddy. You lost any credibility once you started preaching your own words.
@jkulesha Who cares when you said it. I was commenting on your false statement. I am correcting you and your poor understanding of the gospel. You said it plain and simple that you shouldn't be religious if you're gay. YOU ARE WRONG.
@Nixmix24 my first statements "this guy has a split personality. Religious, and gay, pick one. He goes from acting feminine, to acting religious and spiritual. jesus said you can't serve 2 masters."
jkulesha 2 days ago "Not getting with a woman you are contrary to the nature of God, can never experience Gods plan of happiness, are in a carnal state of mind, and you are mission out on the greatest blessing imaginable."
@jkulesha When you said "Religious, and gay, pick one... you can't serve two masters." Right there you are implying that you can't be religious if you are gay. Use your head little boy.
"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Also Luke 17:2 & Mark 9:42
Doctrine and Covenants 121:19
"Wo unto them; because they have offended my little ones they shall be severed from the ordinances of mine house." Yes you have offended me and you repent not.
@jkulesha lol ok little one. I'm ok with offending you because you are wrong. You aren't better than anyone no matter how much you think so. Again, you can apply that to yourself. Maybe you should stop trying to offend homosexuals... hypocrite.
You're right, I won't repent because the truth hurts little one. What I say only offends you because you are wrong. You are out of line and you are trying to use your priesthood to win an argument. It's not working.
@Nixmix24 I don't use my priesthood to try and win any argument, you argue with God, hate his commandments of holiness especially concerning homosexuality, and try to convice me I'm wrong by preaching the Lord's standard of Holiness, which jesus said, "I am the law." It is obvious you are gay otherwise you would not be in such a heated debate, because the spirit is obviously not with you anyway, and you can't discern the Lord's hand, nor his voice, and you will not humble yourself.
@jkulesha YOU AREN'T GOD no matter how much you want to believe you are.. I'm arguing with YOU and YOUR FALSE STATEMENTS. You just keep brining in other irrelevant scriptures to win.
Haha you are not speaking for the Lord, for the millionth time. You are the one who obviously can't discern the Lords hand if you are saying that homosexuals shouldn't be religious. Looks like it's you who is without the spirit. I don't need to humble myself to a lowlife like yourself. You are nobody.
@Nixmix24 Yea well well see what your stake president and bishop have to say, even the bishops wife said you aren't worthy to hold the priesthood, you obviously are of your father tge devil and are a wolf in sheeps clothing, I don't know how you ever even got into the church. For one, I never said anything for anyone to prevent being religious, so quit trying to accuse me of sin or interpret my words evily to justify your offence at the holy word of God. And 2 you are not humble enough to hear
@jkulesha "Wo unto the liar for he shall be thrust down to Hell." The bishop's wife doesn't even know me, liar. I just barely moved into the ward and haven't even been to this ward yet hahahaha wow! You really are as dumb as you look.
You need to learn how to speak English. Bottom line is, you said that homosexuals shouldn't be religious. Not only are you a hypocrite, but you're a liar and you are a bigot with a God complex. You're the type of person that rapes children telling them you're God.
@Nixmix24 Nick Morlock... Ex missionary says,"I'm the type of person that rapes children telling them I'm am God?" and you wonder why I told you that you are not worthy of the priesthood. I'm Glad God gives you free will so you can keep condemning yourself with your words you fool.
I can't believe you keep going on about this I said homos shouldn't be religous, I never said that, so basically have fun making stuff up, everyone thinks you are crazy.
@jkulesha Truth hurts little boy. You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about concerning what makes a person worthy or not. Explain to me how I am not worthy of the priesthood just because I'm pointing out a very possible situation. You really are that type of person. You have the same personality traits. Sorry to break it to you creeper.
I know what you said. You're the one making stuff up to cover it up. How about you explain why someone has to pick between being religious or gay.
"Therefore, keep these sayings which I have commanded you that ye come not under condemnation; for wo unto him whom the Father condemneth."
lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/18.33?lang=eng#
New testament - Romans 9: 13 "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid."
lds.org/scriptures/nt/rom/9.13?lang=eng#12
Gods lets the prophets be killed to judge righteously
@Nixmix24 Yea this coming from the guy who says that the bishops wife doesn't know you? After I just told her a few of the things you said. Ok. Heres what jesus said, maybe you will fear soon enough and repent. 3 Nephi 14:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven.
& 23And then will I profess unto them: I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity." light shows whats in dark
@jkulesha That's because I've never met her. How about you tell me her name. How about you tell me my bishop's name? What's gonna happen on Sunday when I talk to her and she has no idea who you are?
All you have is dark little boy. You are full of lies, pride, and unrighteous dominion.
@Nixmix24 I will laugh if you actually are bold enough to go up to the bishops wife. wow... i don't think the letter is gonna get there before sunday, but good luck.
@jkulesha And by the way, what's my Bishop's name? What's his wife's name? Looks like you guys are buddy buddy. How about you tell me how many girls they have. Oh wait, did I catch you in another lie?
@Nixmix24 There is No winning an argument, I'm not arguing, the Lord is in Control, and because you have an evil spirit, you cannot be saved. Jesus said in the book of mormon you must repent, be baptized, keep the commandments, and endure to the end. You clearly aren't keeping the commandments, and your attitude and spiritual knowledge show it. And I know you won't repent, you will just keep spewing evil words, and trying to condemn me just like those that persecuted the prophets of old.
@jkulesha Yeah you are arguing because you aren't God. And you're a liar. And a Hypocrite. Calling you out on your BS and proving that you are wrong isn't breaking the commandments. Nice try fatty. Oh... and you're not a prophet. ; )
Ok so now you are calling me a fatty? And can't even humble yourself to repent and keep the commandments according to scripture. So you think lying takes away your sin? You think good works forgive you? I really hope you get excommunicated. But if you repented and gave the lord,"broken heart and contrite spirit' as is the only sacrifice he accepts, I'd be more happy if he forgave you and you brought forth fruits of repentance, because you are truly a discrace to God's church.
@jkulesha You are a fatty. Look at your picture hahaha.
Again, how about you humble yourself and answer my 2 simple questions instead of avoiding them? Or are you too prideful to admit you're a liar and you're wrong?
@Nixmix24 so now you glory in breaking the commandment jesus gave to Love God and Love man, which loving man is loving God, jesus said,"whatsover you do unto these the least of my brethren you do unto me." so you call him a fatty. You love condemning yourself. Keep it up.
I don't have to have the nametag Prophet for someone to know when the Lord is speaking to them or dealing with them according to the issues of their heart.
It's so sad you take glory in fighting against God. You truly are the epitome of everything evil, and I'm not a liar.
@Nixmix24 Keep doing everything you can to deny the fact that I have sharply rebuked you and shown you your sin, through God's word, which you should be reading already and examining your own life and repenting daily of whatever sins you might have. But I'm guessing you don't do that. Have a blessed day. Good bye
@jkulesha I don't listen to hick trash so I'm not familiar with that song. Are you ever gonna answer my questions or are you just gonna keep avoiding them like you have been?
@Nixmix24 you obviously don't know the voice of the spirit, you are probably not worthy of the holy ghost because you are bisexual and you hate the fact that homosexuality is a sin because you love men, so you hear the devil speak to you trying to condemn me, and you speak for him because you don't know Gods voice, and you glory in uncleanness.
Everyone can see here you have not once followed the example of christ and if anyone is misusing scriptures out of context its you sorry try again
@jkulesha I don't need the voice of the spirit to know that you're a liar. Call me gay all you want but you do realize that means you're gayer than I am right? At least I have a wife.
Who is everyone? Looks like everyone is actually on my side. You're the nutcase here.
I'll ask again. How about you stop avoiding my questions.
1. What are my bishop's and stake president's names?
2. Why does someone have to pick between being religious or gay?
@Nixmix24 I'm a liar? the Stake president's name and your bishops name is on the front of the letter I sent yesterday to the church... yea you can go to another church to avoid the situation, but if you feel so right, go try to justify yourself when they confront you. I don't need to give you anything you ask for. You bishops first name is only 3 letters long. I think thats enough proof, you probably don't even know his name. And I don't have to sit here and argue with a devil worshipper
@jkulesha Yes you are a liar. So what's the name on the letter you "sent" yesterday, liar? Trust me, I'll be there every week waiting for them to confront me with your imaginary letter.
3 letters long? Nope guess again. I'll give YOU a hint. Try 6 letters. How about you just tell me what his initials are then? Or is that too much for you to handle?
@Nixmix24 His first name was ron or robert I forget, she told me 3 letter name, I think his wife knows him best, she also gave me her home address and the stake presidents name... I threw the paper out, or lost it, I'm tempted to go through the trash that I had in my car that I through out today but I don't really think your worth it. and I'm a liar? you seriously need to see a mental health specialist... really... God have mercy on your soul.
@Nixmix24 I'm a liar? why does someone have to pick between being religous or gay? wow maybe you need to go sit in with the kids in primary.
Like I already said in my first comment. Jesus said you can't serve 2 masters you will love one or hate the other. Jesus said,"what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his own soul." Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul." If you don't know the verse thats not my fault you don't know the scriptures.
@Nixmix24 Don't you think that God loves all his children and as you can see through this mans testimony in this video that he was very active in trying to help him become straight and at one point manifested the power of the holy ghost to have him ask a girl out and told him she could be his wife if he let a 'part of him die' and no I'm not lying he said that in the other videos if you watch them. If you don't repent you can't be saved, I guess you don't know the 2nd principle of the gospel
@Nixmix24 Why would me, someone preaching , obeying god, trying to get people to repent and forsake their sins so they can experience Gods plan of happiness, ever tell someone they can't be religous? If you are a sinner you should be ever more religous no matter what your sin is, gay or not. Jesus said,"whoever is forgiven of much loves much." When are you gonna wake up and admit YOU are wrong not me. Religous people shouldn't sin, that's the point, you would let the devil use you for evil
@jkulesha Lying isn't obeying God. Sorry to break it to you.
Uh, that's what I was telling YOU in the first place! Of course religious people SHOULDN'T sin, but you said that he has to pick between the two. WHICH IS WRONG. YOU are wrong. You have no place telling him that he shouldn't be religious if he is also gay.
@Nixmix24 I never said that, again twisting my words to fit your own agenda so that you can try to escape the condemnation you are under... jesus said,"whoever is not with me is against me."
And the guy recently told me he is in a 5 year relationship with 'a guy' so what did he pick the church or his homosexuality? If he picked Jesus he would have forsaken all and followed him... I'm sorry to tell you but there is good and evil, there is no in between, jesus is the law, he doesn't sugar coat
@jkulesha You said exactly that. You can stop lying and twisting your false words around because it's not working. I'm under no condemnation but you can keep thinking you have that kind of power. It's quite funny actually.
Well you have been lying quite a bit to me today so it looks like you have chosen sin and forsaken Jesus. You're right, there isn't any grey area. And you've crossed the line many times so far within a short amount of time.
@Nixmix24 In your own mind, I have spoken plainly and if you weren't doing anything wrong I wouldn't have written the church an 11 page letter with our conversation for them to read and judge. Have a nice life.
@jkulesha haha first of all you're a liar so I'm not worried in the least. Second, even if you did copy the whole convo on to a letter, I'm still in the right. Even if I believed your lies, I am not afraid of what I said. Not even for a second little boy. You are the one who should be afraid.
@Nixmix24 Homosexuality is a sin period, if you choose sin, you obviously have chosen to break the commandments, this is a plain and simple thing to understand, if you choose to keep the commandments you choose not to sin, for whatever reason they may be to do either or. If you got a problem with me telling someone to make up their mind being gay or religous in a statement I made a few days ago and want to ellaborate on it and nitpick trying to over exxagerate and condemn me thats your choice
"@ma049 get over your cheap self. no body "chooses" sin. no body chooses to be gay"
Ah Mr Pisces you misunderstood the pont.:
Think of a man who thinks being gay is wrong but is not sexually attracted to men; on what basis does he hold himself to be morally superior to man who is sexually attracted to men?
Think of poor Mr Jkulesha, who is sexually attracted to men but thinks being gay is sinful. He has a tougher moral choice than me who digs women.
@Nixmix24 The facts are, if I were accused of sin, if applicable I would humble myself, you choose to pick a statement on this post and proceeded to use disrespectful words to address me from the begining that immediately prove your unworthiness in church standings by the way you carry yourself and the testimony you want people to recieve of you. There is No way anyone would think you are a worthy priesthood holder who loves god and keeps his commandments and isn't offended at his teachings.
@jkulesha The facts are, You're a liar. Even if you did find my bishop's name and talked to his wife. SHE DOESN'T KNOW ME AT ALL. Like I said, I haven't even been to that ward yet. You said she already knew me and you kept going on and on with your lies. That, is a lie. You need to repent and get a life.
I don't know who you think you are but calling you out on your fallacies is not grounds to loose any worthiness, You are a nobody.
I'm not offended by His teachings but obviously you are.
@Nixmix24 If I was guilty of sin I would be the first to admit it. I am in no way sinful encouraging someone to forsake homosexuality and serve God. If I would change my statement for someone to pick homosexuality and being a devoted mormon, pick mormonism, I don't take back what I say, and I'm not saying what I said was perfect according to your standards, but the facts are that this guy in this video had to pick sides, and he picked homosexuality, when God offered him happiness with a woman.
@Nixmix24 Ok I found the paper so your bishops name is Ron M******, his wife gave me his first name, if it's ronald maybe thats the 6 letters you speak of. for his sake I will black it out but you already told me his last name and so did mormon.org... and for those that are reading this... you can get a free book of mormon on that website as well... anyways Your stake president's name is richard a***d I'm not putting both addresses on youtube.
@ma049 The debate is referring to the fact that my original comment said,"This guy * in the video* acts feminine, *which is proof he is following a homosexual spirit and given full way to it*, and that you need to pick one or the other,*then I said* you ca
I'm a gay mormon convert. I converted two years ago. I turn 19 in one month and I just handed in my mission papers today(sunday). I told my bishop via text message after I left. We're talking about it in 3 days. Now I just found this, pretty cool.
1993TylerT 1 month ago
Why not just say that you're bisexual, but that you're more attracted to guys?
ashleybrownie123 4 months ago
thank you for sharing your story. u are an inspiration to many.
mammabarbof3 6 months ago
ummm gays cant be mormon!!! duh!
jjbellon22 7 months ago
@jjbellon22 On the contrary, they can be Mormon. Don't quote me on this, but I feel like, a homesexual person is a mental defect, much like autism, or something similar. I don't mean to be rude by saying that. So it's just a challenge God has placed upon them. I can't imagine how tough it is for homosexual people.
ToushiKatou00 7 months ago
As an active Mormon, I really respect this guy. He is really mature about everything, and it takes a really strong person to push through something so challenging with a positive attitude. kudos.
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What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent God His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have everlasting life!
gramosjr7 8 months ago
I can totally relate to your experience as a gay mormon. I ended up getting married. Now, three years later, I'm divorced. But as you explained so eloquently, what option do you have if you choose to stay in the church other than trying to make it work with a woman?
ashafsable 8 months ago
Yeah, well it's not fair to the women when the husband is addicted to pornography. And it's not fair to the husband when the wife is a gossiping liar. Nobody is perfect... and I'm not sure how people come to the conclusion that being homosexual is worse than any of these other sins.
Mind you, homosexuality is a grave problem. But I respect all homosexuals that remain in the church to struggle with this issue.
TheCruel 9 months ago
I think it is a bit scary that a gay person is feeling pushed toward straightness. I don't think it is fair for the woman. It's not right.
Cerulean0987 9 months ago 2
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RobertC2525 10 months ago
Wow. It is very powerful to hear someone, who is not anti Mormon, put into words the complexity of this experience. Thank you.
Ianhoulihan 1 year ago 9
god he's beautiful. damn i wish i met a mormon like him!!!
Pisces31660 1 year ago
"Is this supposed to be like ajoke or something? "
I am not sure, so you are saying you think this Book of Mormon is a joke? You may be onto something, I have checked and it was only invented by an American man in the 19th centruy! You might be right.
Is ths your meanings?
ma049 1 year ago
this guy has a split personality. Religious, and gay, pick one. He goes from acting feminine, to acting religious and spiritual. jesus said you can't serve 2 masters.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Don't be a douche. Don't get me wrong, I don't support homosexuality but there is nothing wrong with a desire to be closer to God and to be religious. You are far from perfect yourself and I'm positive you have your own trials and vices, we all do, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't go to church or try to be religious and be better. Do you think Christ would turn away a follower of his if that follower happened to be gay? Of course not. Think things through before you say it.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24
I'm an Elder in the Mormon Church, they should have never baptized this guy if he was gay, if he doesn't repent he won't inherit God's kingdom because the book of mormon says no unclean things can dwell with God. He knows this, the entire video is on his conflict with homosexuality and the church. he told me hes been with a man for 5 years and is happy. But yes me being subject to sin that I might overcome it, have known the misery of sin, and that it is contrary to Gods nature
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Oh please. You are a self righteous prick. You're not an Elder anymore unless you're still on a mission or a part of the General Authority, which you aren't. I went on a mission I'm married in the temple and I hold the Melchizedek priesthood myself. Look at my page. I'm very active in the church. I know very well that no unclean thing can dwell in the presence of God. Guess what, you're just as unclean as he is. You just have a different set of sins and temptation.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 You are condemned and not worthy to hold the priesthood and if you don't repent the justice of the Lord will surely fall upon you even as the sword of the Lord spoken in the book of mormon, I don't know who you think you are, and you think God is Mocked, and if you knew anything about the Priesthood, maybe if you Read your certificate if you really had one, it says I am ORDAINED AN ELDER IN THE MELCHIZEDEK PRIESTHOOD and it doesn't really matter, there were apostles who became apostat
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Haha wow you're a freak. I'm not worthy to hold the priesthood because I'm calling you out on your lie and your hypocrisy? Well it's a good thing you aren't my Bishop. Your fire and brimstone talk doesn't scare me. Have you ever heard of unrighteous dominion? Look it up. You are everything that is wrong with our Church. You are not God. Sorry to break it to you. You are no longer an Elder. You hold the office but nobody calls you an elder anymore besides yourself.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 don't sit here and try to condemn me you sicko
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha You're only condemning yourself hypocrite.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Whats your last name
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha What's yours?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha I just sent it all to you in a PM. I'm not stupid enough to post my info on YouTube like you.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Yea and I'm not stupid enough to continue to Blaspheme against another priesthoodholder like YOU
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha You still haven't answered my question. What did I say that was blasphemous? You aren't God. You are just an insecure, self righteous, redneck, hypocrite. You are nothing. Your priesthood means nothing to me because you are trying to force your unrighteous dominion and trying to use it to win an argument. Very Christlike of you.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24
If anything you seem like the many who have problems with sin who forget that jesus said,"be perfect as I, or your father in heaven is perfect." 3 Nephi 12:48
& Matthew 5:48
Quit trying to condemn me when I have no sin in this matter but you try to condemn me for speaking the word of God from scripture.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha I forgot to add the part of how many priesthood leaders try to exemplify the 'atonement' to forget about the role of being perfected, even Joseph Smith said,"those that cannot abide a celestial law cannot dwell there."
Not to mention I never ONCE said I was Sinless, so your trying to Humble me or make me confess my sins is deff NOT your job, and your pleasure shouldn't be in making everyone confess their inadequacy, for if every man is unclean before God where is God's pleasure.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha I could care less about your sins, which are many. When did I ask you to confess anything? You just don't get it. You think that you are in a position to judge but you AREN'T. YOU are not a judge. You aren't a bishop, or a Stake President, or anything higher than an RM. That's all little boy.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 I hope you get excommunicated after I call your bishop and go over all these things you had to say, like I said people like you make me sick, and you must know nothing about God, and NO I'm NOT gay, and thats probably why you are even on this guys page is cuz you are NOT me... so get over yourself cuz your mad like those who gnashed their teeth at the prophets when they said,"how shall we look when we are damned?" and thus the building fell on them with a loud crash." Get over yourself
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Haha oh please. I'm quite sure he will have o put the phone down so he doesn't offend you because he is laughing so hard. You can judge me all you want but it still doesn't make a difference. You are a nobody in the church.
Oh you just keep getting better. I must be gay because I am on this page? I'm pretty sure you were the first one on this page, homo.
Again, you're not a prophet. Get over yourself.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24
I can't get over myself I am myself. Keep trying to sooth your soul from what might really happen when I talk to your bishop.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Haha I'm waiting in anticipation for that to happen. That'll be hilarious. Trust me, my soul is as calm as a summer breeze.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24
Yes because you are full of Pride don't worry. Pride comes before the fall.
Matthew 23:12
And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Do you know what projection is? Everything you are saying should be directed at yourself. You obviously have an issue with pride judging by your language. I know that I'm right and you have yet to show me how I'm wrong. All you do is say that I'm this and that but you can't back it up with anything. You aren't the authority in the church and you never will be. I'm sure I understand the teachings of the church far better than you do. Thus, I'm calm. You'll see if you call that I'm right
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Don't even try to disrespect a priesthood holder without understanding even whaet the priesthood is, the authority or what he tells people to do. Jesus told me LONG BEFORE I WAS MORMON to testify of him and preach the gospel which includes repentance, and if you even read the book of mormon you would see he sent all his followers to 'preach nothing save repentance' so get out of here.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Like I've said before, you are a nobody. You are the one disrespecting the priesthood with your self righteous behavior. You aren't a prophet, you aren't in any position to say the things you say. You speak for yourself, not Christ. You have no authority over me. Nice try though.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@jkulesha HAHAHA oh wow... just because you aren't gay, (you probably aren't out of the closet at least) that doesn't make it ok for you to pretend to be perfect. You are FAR from perfect little boy. You aren't speaking the word of God when you tell people that they shouldn't go to church if they have sinned or are sinning. How about you justify YOUR words with scripture. Show me where it says that a sinner can't be religious. I'll eat that page. If that's true. NOBODY should be religious. Idiot
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24
You are still on that you shouldn't go to church thing? I wrote that as one of my first comments before I even watched all 7 of his interviews.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Yes I am because that's what this whole argument is based off of! How about you answer the question instead of avoiding it? You won't answer because you know you're wrong which makes your whole argument on here wrong. Now go ahead and show me where you are speaking the word of God and not just your own. Go ahead. I'm waiting.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24
There is no argument, your spirit stands judged before Christ, and your words condemn you, don't you know that jesus said,"for every idle word men shall speak they shall give account of it on the day of judgement."
But apparently you haven't learned the Fear of the Lord.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha The only one doing the judging here is you right now. I have nothing to hide and what I say I would say in front of my priesthood authorities because i am right.
You aren't the Lord and you don't speak in the name of the Lord. You have yet to back anything up. AGAIN SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT SINNERS SHOULDN'T BE RELIGIOUS.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Uh how about you read the very first comment. You said that if you're gay you can't be religious. Which is totally false and your own words.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 I quoted my first quote and anyone can go back and read it and see that this is not true. But the devil is a liar and the father of it.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha You're right, they can and they will see that you said that if you're gay, you shouldn't be religious. It's pretty simple.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 again I quoted scriptures mr. Melchizidek Priesthood Holder, but maybe you don't understand that and still harden your heart against the word of the Lord trying to justify yourself. 3 Nephi 13:24
No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and Mammon." Luke 16:13
That was my first comment, assuredly if you are offended by this, take it up with Jesus, he said it.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha No you quote scripture that aren't applicable. Take your 3rd Nephi scripture for example. You aren't the lord and you aren't speaking in the name of the lord because you ar speaking for yourself. You try to argue with scripture to justify your own actions and the nonsense that comes out of your mouth.
No you left out half of your first comment. The half that was your own words and the half that we have been talking about. You should probably stop twisting scripture to fit your agenda.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
"But apparently you haven't learned the Fear of the Lord""
Ah I don't much about the Lord because I was brought up as a Chinggis. But I am most interested in your God and to follow him I wish.
Can ask with your God, is he a great dictator and destroyer of things. You use his powers to cow his foes into praising him on pain of punishment. Would he punish men for simply disobeying? He sounds like a great Nuchrinkate, like the great Stalin or Gengis Khan.
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 2 Nephi 5:25
And the Lord God said unto me: They shall be a scourge unto thy seed, to stir them up in remembrance of me; and inasmuch as they will not remember me, and hearken unto my words, they shall scourge them even unto destruction.
lds.org/scriptures/search?lang=eng&type=verse&query=destruction+remember
jkulesha 1 year ago
Ah, so this Jesus-God is like a sadist king who delights in war and destruction! Like Comrade Stalin.
And was it Jesus-God message of destruction and tyranny that led you to him?
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049
Without Jesus who said he is the law, there would be no good or evil, he said,"the world hates me because I testify their deeds are evil."
it is written, without holiness nobody shall see God
jkulesha 1 year ago
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he is the law, there would be no good.
Ok so as I understand you venerate the Jesus-God because destroys good.
"it is written, without holiness"
I don't understand, you say this Bible is written without holiness?
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 I said,"without holiness nobody shall see god. Hebrews 12:14 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord." And I don't understand your words concerning the vernate jesus God and destroying Good. Jesus is the law, the book of mormon says,"God cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance." For him to not rebuke, confront, chastise, or bring justice upon sin, is for him to allow it and not executing the law, and there would be no law
jkulesha 1 year ago
"they shall scourge them even unto destruction."
You hope God to beat the gay from your loins? Good luck my friend.
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 haha nice
Nixmix24 1 year ago
Hi Jkulesha, I have been a bit puzzled. I think you may have a mistake. Your book of Nephi doesn't seem to be a real holy book. I can't find it in the Bible anywhere?
Can you tell me where it is in the Bible? I want to read more of teh truths you speak.
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 Is this supposed to be like ajoke or something? like a "Bible is the only true book thing? It's in the book of mormon, go get your free copy at mormon.org. this video is about a MORMON> read nephi at scriptures.lds.org
A holy book is only holy to those who esteem it as scriptures, just cuz one man said the bible is holy doesn't meen God ever said it was the only book, and for those quoting revelation, saying it was never to be added to, yea for johns book, so don't add to his words
jkulesha 1 year ago
@ma049 Why would I like men if I am telling people to repent of their sins and run frokm this evil offense toward God. And for everyone else reading the comments about NiXMIX24 toward me and his blatent disrespect toward God and the priesthood, there is no way you should ever join the church if you are not committed to keeping the commandments. Which is first to Love God with all your heart soul mind and strength and 2nd to love your neighbor as himself. He has clearly failed to do this.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha You aren't God and you are unworthy of your priesthood because you're a liar... and you probably rape children.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 I never said I was God, it's sad because deep down you know you sinned, but you think this is an argument and your pride wants to hold onto it for some vain hope of glory when in reality you wont humble yourself. If you know anything about God you know he uses the vain and foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and if you aren't listening for God to speak to you through anyone or anything, and you are bound up in traditions of men, you truly have not understood God.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha What is my sin oh holy and enlightened one?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 It's so sad how you try to now throw back at me and accuse me of what you are guilty of. I guess you close your ears when you hear the prophets speak of daily repentance in the church, and o this must hurt bad, yes even the children when they speak.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha And what is it that I'm guilty of? (You're not a prophet)
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24
How about you humble yourself and read this. lds.org/scriptures/nt/matt/23.28?lang=eng#27
27Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
You truly are one of these that has crept into the church, I they believes your lies in interviews
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha How about you humble yourself and answer my 2 simple questions?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
"Why would I like men"
Well, isn't sexual attraction have an involuntary component? Think about your statement Mr jkulesha. You could ethically be opposed to homosexuality, yet still have the feeling within you.
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Just you could have spiteful thoughts even though you know being spiteful is not right.
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 lds.org/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/29.3?lang=eng#2
Book of Mormon - 2 Nephi 29:3 " And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible. UAdd a Note 4But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible, and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them?" That is a prophecy written 600 BC
jkulesha 1 year ago
It is amazing they have translated this from ancient scrolls? Wow, it so amazing that the patterns speech from the text match so well that of Anglo-Saxons English Americans.
I think this was probably providence on Gods part?
This is good learning, I have not heard of this bit of the Lords word. I would like to know more (although ethnically I think I am not permited to join this organisation). But thank you Mr Jkulesha,.
May I ask you question of scriptures? Who was the Angel Maron?
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 The angel MoronI was the son of Mormon, lds.org/scriptures/bofm/moro?lang=eng ,who buried the 'metal plates' of mormon unto the Lord to be brought forth in the last days, *1820s*. He appeared to Joseph Smith a few years after he had his first vision telling him he had a work to do. Which after he was worthy eventually recieve the Plates his Father Mormon wrote, and translate them into English by the Power of God. The Plates began by the prophet nephi were abridged by mormon
jkulesha 1 year ago
"who buried the 'metal plates' of mormon unto the Lord to be brought forth in the last days""
Recorded on metal plates? Wow, we have metal plates upon which the hand of God is written! Can they be tested to assess their material properties?
"appeared to Joseph Smith a few years after he had his first vision telling him he had a work to do."
We had a similar thing with a local man; his visions were in the end deemed to be symptomatic of psycological disorder. What was Mr Smiths history.
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 read the history of joseph smith here ---> lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng
if you have any other questions send them to me in an email I can't keep track of all your questions
jkulesha 1 year ago
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"if you have any other questions send them to me in an email I can't keep track of all your questions"
Well that is a shame it is job of the priest to spread the word!
ma049 1 year ago
What sort metal are these plates made from. Are they metallurgical consistent with the technology of the time they were said to be made in.
Has there be independent testing of technique used to engrave? Did this Angel Moron i set down and use a sharp tool to engrave, or use corrosive engraving. Or think this, if he change the shape of metal by holy power there would be no tool marks!!! It would literally prove the Divine!
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 The record was written on metal plates like inscribing, the lord did many miracles as you read in the book of mormon . go to mormon.org and request a free copy and missionaries will bring it to you and you can ask them questions. you can also find a church near you on there. mormon.org
jkulesha 1 year ago
"The record was written on metal plates like inscribing, "
My friend, there are two ways two inscribe metal plate; carving into its surface or corroding the surface with an acid or mordant substance. A simple examination of the plates will determine which technique. I could determine it myself.
So were are the plates that I might look on them? Are they displayed publically?
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 The plates were given back to the angel after they were translated you have the book to read yourself, I told you to get a free copy at mormon.org... they are spiritual matters contained theron anyway, so if you can't have faith or get answers from God then your gonna have a hard time.
jkulesha 1 year ago
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I am confused here. Please help me understand Mr Jkulesha.
"The plates were given back to the angel after they were translated you have the book to read "
But only before Mr Smith had had time to show them to others to verify the autheticity of his claims? Surely this is the case. Which academics did he petetion to examine his angelic gift?
"spiritual matters contained theron anyway"
But you said they WERE delivered in physical tangible form. Are you now saying this is irelevant?
ma049 1 year ago
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ma049 1 year ago
"so if you can't have faith or get answers from God then your gonna have a hard time."
You are asking me to have faith in your claim that a set of real physical tangeble metal plates exisited. We are taking about a faith in God, we are talking about a faith in the existance of metal plates.
God has not told me of the metal plates; you (a mortal) has. And you were told by a mortal who was told by a mortal.
Mr Jkulesha, please think about what you are saying. You aren't God.
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049
God told me to believe, I read, i recieved testimony I knew.
jkulesha 1 year ago
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"God told me to believe, I read, i recieved testimony I knew. ""
Please try to stay on the point. Did God specifically verify the existance of the metal plates?
I am hearing this story from a mortal. Where did you hear it?
ma049 1 year ago
As my friend Mr McCellan has just correctly pointed out I ommited to mention the technique of stamping metal plate in order to impress a design or words on the surface.
ma049 1 year ago
"The angel MoronI was the son of Mormon,"
So who was Mormon? Does his name appear before the speakings of Mr Smith (peace on him)?
ma049 1 year ago
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Nixmix24 1 year ago
@jkulesha Never mind, found it Jason Kulesha.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Yea thats houw you pernounce it. So whats your name Brother
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Just sent it to you.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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@Nixmix24 Whats your last name
jkulesha 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Jesus said, "whoever is not with me is against me." he also said,"whoever sins against the greater light shall recieve the greater condemnation." He also said,"whoever recieves you recieves me." I don't think you get it your words are against his law, NOT me, and obviouisly he gives you a free will to speak so because you have not so learned christ nor understand him.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha And what exactly did I say that is against his law? You aren't Christ. I'm against you and your hypocrisy and your judgement. You do realize that you shouldn't be judging right? You are not in a position to do so. You aren't his priesthood leader or mine. Like I said before, Your fire and brimstone talk means nothing because you'r just a self righteous, self important, hypocrite. "he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone" How many stones have you cast so far lately?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24
Ezekiel says,"he who tells those they will burn in hell but tell them not to repent is condemned."
I have not once said not to repent. The book of mormon is full of prophets who preached repentance or judgement. Or did you not read the first book in the book of mormon how lehi was desired to be murdered because he spoke the truth. And you continue to gnash your teeth as one of them because I speak the law of God with plainness and you do not humble yourself but cover your sin
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Christ said, "he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone" I'll stick with the higher law thank you. You are in no position to tell anyone that they will burn in Hell because you have no authority over anyone. Keep throwing your stones though.
The difference is, YOU'RE NOT A PROPHET. You can't call anyone to repentance.
Again, where does it say that sinners shouldn't go to church? That's exactly what you are saying. You are the one in need of humbling "elder."
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 I'm not a prophet... your funny, they should do more excessive interviews before they ordain people or call people on a mission make them take a test or something, joseph smith said,"everyone that testifies of jesus christ is a prophet, because it takes the spirit of revelation and prophecy to do so." You make me sick and I'm sure the Lord feels the same way. Keep Glorying in your own opinion.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Haha oh wow. You actually think you are a prophet? Possible as you testify of Christ you are in that you have the SPIRIT of prophecy but you aren't testifying of Christ while you tell people that sinners shouldn't be religious. You should read the last half of D&C 121: 37 starting with "To exercise control or dominion.." and ending with "Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man." This applies to you, buddy. You lost any credibility once you started preaching your own words.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Who cares when you said it. I was commenting on your false statement. I am correcting you and your poor understanding of the gospel. You said it plain and simple that you shouldn't be religious if you're gay. YOU ARE WRONG.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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jkulesha 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 my first statements "this guy has a split personality. Religious, and gay, pick one. He goes from acting feminine, to acting religious and spiritual. jesus said you can't serve 2 masters."
jkulesha 2 days ago "Not getting with a woman you are contrary to the nature of God, can never experience Gods plan of happiness, are in a carnal state of mind, and you are mission out on the greatest blessing imaginable."
Nowhere did I say a sinner cant be religous
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha When you said "Religious, and gay, pick one... you can't serve two masters." Right there you are implying that you can't be religious if you are gay. Use your head little boy.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Matthew 18:6
"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Also Luke 17:2 & Mark 9:42
Doctrine and Covenants 121:19
"Wo unto them; because they have offended my little ones they shall be severed from the ordinances of mine house." Yes you have offended me and you repent not.
lds.org/scriptures/search?lang=eng&query=offend+little+one
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha lol ok little one. I'm ok with offending you because you are wrong. You aren't better than anyone no matter how much you think so. Again, you can apply that to yourself. Maybe you should stop trying to offend homosexuals... hypocrite.
You're right, I won't repent because the truth hurts little one. What I say only offends you because you are wrong. You are out of line and you are trying to use your priesthood to win an argument. It's not working.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 I don't use my priesthood to try and win any argument, you argue with God, hate his commandments of holiness especially concerning homosexuality, and try to convice me I'm wrong by preaching the Lord's standard of Holiness, which jesus said, "I am the law." It is obvious you are gay otherwise you would not be in such a heated debate, because the spirit is obviously not with you anyway, and you can't discern the Lord's hand, nor his voice, and you will not humble yourself.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha YOU AREN'T GOD no matter how much you want to believe you are.. I'm arguing with YOU and YOUR FALSE STATEMENTS. You just keep brining in other irrelevant scriptures to win.
Haha you are not speaking for the Lord, for the millionth time. You are the one who obviously can't discern the Lords hand if you are saying that homosexuals shouldn't be religious. Looks like it's you who is without the spirit. I don't need to humble myself to a lowlife like yourself. You are nobody.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Yea well well see what your stake president and bishop have to say, even the bishops wife said you aren't worthy to hold the priesthood, you obviously are of your father tge devil and are a wolf in sheeps clothing, I don't know how you ever even got into the church. For one, I never said anything for anyone to prevent being religious, so quit trying to accuse me of sin or interpret my words evily to justify your offence at the holy word of God. And 2 you are not humble enough to hear
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha "Wo unto the liar for he shall be thrust down to Hell." The bishop's wife doesn't even know me, liar. I just barely moved into the ward and haven't even been to this ward yet hahahaha wow! You really are as dumb as you look.
You need to learn how to speak English. Bottom line is, you said that homosexuals shouldn't be religious. Not only are you a hypocrite, but you're a liar and you are a bigot with a God complex. You're the type of person that rapes children telling them you're God.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Nick Morlock... Ex missionary says,"I'm the type of person that rapes children telling them I'm am God?" and you wonder why I told you that you are not worthy of the priesthood. I'm Glad God gives you free will so you can keep condemning yourself with your words you fool.
I can't believe you keep going on about this I said homos shouldn't be religous, I never said that, so basically have fun making stuff up, everyone thinks you are crazy.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Truth hurts little boy. You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about concerning what makes a person worthy or not. Explain to me how I am not worthy of the priesthood just because I'm pointing out a very possible situation. You really are that type of person. You have the same personality traits. Sorry to break it to you creeper.
I know what you said. You're the one making stuff up to cover it up. How about you explain why someone has to pick between being religious or gay.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
"I'm Glad God gives you free will so you can keep condemning yourself with your words you fool."
Is not in a sense imoral to take active pleasure in anothers damnation? Is Schadenfreude a permissable quality of your faith?
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 jesus said,3 Nephi 18:33
"Therefore, keep these sayings which I have commanded you that ye come not under condemnation; for wo unto him whom the Father condemneth."
lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/18.33?lang=eng#
New testament - Romans 9: 13 "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid."
lds.org/scriptures/nt/rom/9.13?lang=eng#12
Gods lets the prophets be killed to judge righteously
jkulesha 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Yea this coming from the guy who says that the bishops wife doesn't know you? After I just told her a few of the things you said. Ok. Heres what jesus said, maybe you will fear soon enough and repent. 3 Nephi 14:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven.
& 23And then will I profess unto them: I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity." light shows whats in dark
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha That's because I've never met her. How about you tell me her name. How about you tell me my bishop's name? What's gonna happen on Sunday when I talk to her and she has no idea who you are?
All you have is dark little boy. You are full of lies, pride, and unrighteous dominion.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 I will laugh if you actually are bold enough to go up to the bishops wife. wow... i don't think the letter is gonna get there before sunday, but good luck.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Oh I will : ) Your lies don't scare me.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@jkulesha And by the way, what's my Bishop's name? What's his wife's name? Looks like you guys are buddy buddy. How about you tell me how many girls they have. Oh wait, did I catch you in another lie?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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God is not mocked
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha You no speak English good
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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Yea I got your bishop and stake presidents name I don't have to prove anything you devil worshipper.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Oh is that so? So why is it so hard for you to tell me his name?
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Oh, right. Because you're a liar.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 There is No winning an argument, I'm not arguing, the Lord is in Control, and because you have an evil spirit, you cannot be saved. Jesus said in the book of mormon you must repent, be baptized, keep the commandments, and endure to the end. You clearly aren't keeping the commandments, and your attitude and spiritual knowledge show it. And I know you won't repent, you will just keep spewing evil words, and trying to condemn me just like those that persecuted the prophets of old.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Yeah you are arguing because you aren't God. And you're a liar. And a Hypocrite. Calling you out on your BS and proving that you are wrong isn't breaking the commandments. Nice try fatty. Oh... and you're not a prophet. ; )
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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Ok so now you are calling me a fatty? And can't even humble yourself to repent and keep the commandments according to scripture. So you think lying takes away your sin? You think good works forgive you? I really hope you get excommunicated. But if you repented and gave the lord,"broken heart and contrite spirit' as is the only sacrifice he accepts, I'd be more happy if he forgave you and you brought forth fruits of repentance, because you are truly a discrace to God's church.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha You are a fatty. Look at your picture hahaha.
Again, how about you humble yourself and answer my 2 simple questions instead of avoiding them? Or are you too prideful to admit you're a liar and you're wrong?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 so now you glory in breaking the commandment jesus gave to Love God and Love man, which loving man is loving God, jesus said,"whatsover you do unto these the least of my brethren you do unto me." so you call him a fatty. You love condemning yourself. Keep it up.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha I'm pretty sure you've done much worse hypocrite.. You're still fat
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24
I don't have to have the nametag Prophet for someone to know when the Lord is speaking to them or dealing with them according to the issues of their heart.
It's so sad you take glory in fighting against God. You truly are the epitome of everything evil, and I'm not a liar.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha The Lord doesn't speak with lies like you are so that's how I know you don't have the spirit and the lord isn't speaking through you.
YOU AREN'T GOD!!!
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Keep doing everything you can to deny the fact that I have sharply rebuked you and shown you your sin, through God's word, which you should be reading already and examining your own life and repenting daily of whatever sins you might have. But I'm guessing you don't do that. Have a blessed day. Good bye
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha haha keep doing all you can to avoid telling the truth . I'm sure that'll work out great for you in the end.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Aint nobody not telling you the truth you looney tune, keep listening to them voices in your head. Doubting will get you a long way...
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha I don't listen to hick trash so I'm not familiar with that song. Are you ever gonna answer my questions or are you just gonna keep avoiding them like you have been?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Silence... thats what I like to hear
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Then you should probably keep your lying mouth shut.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 you obviously don't know the voice of the spirit, you are probably not worthy of the holy ghost because you are bisexual and you hate the fact that homosexuality is a sin because you love men, so you hear the devil speak to you trying to condemn me, and you speak for him because you don't know Gods voice, and you glory in uncleanness.
Everyone can see here you have not once followed the example of christ and if anyone is misusing scriptures out of context its you sorry try again
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha I don't need the voice of the spirit to know that you're a liar. Call me gay all you want but you do realize that means you're gayer than I am right? At least I have a wife.
Who is everyone? Looks like everyone is actually on my side. You're the nutcase here.
I'll ask again. How about you stop avoiding my questions.
1. What are my bishop's and stake president's names?
2. Why does someone have to pick between being religious or gay?
Remember, don't lie again. You'll go to Hell.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 I'm a liar? the Stake president's name and your bishops name is on the front of the letter I sent yesterday to the church... yea you can go to another church to avoid the situation, but if you feel so right, go try to justify yourself when they confront you. I don't need to give you anything you ask for. You bishops first name is only 3 letters long. I think thats enough proof, you probably don't even know his name. And I don't have to sit here and argue with a devil worshipper
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Yes you are a liar. So what's the name on the letter you "sent" yesterday, liar? Trust me, I'll be there every week waiting for them to confront me with your imaginary letter.
3 letters long? Nope guess again. I'll give YOU a hint. Try 6 letters. How about you just tell me what his initials are then? Or is that too much for you to handle?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 His first name was ron or robert I forget, she told me 3 letter name, I think his wife knows him best, she also gave me her home address and the stake presidents name... I threw the paper out, or lost it, I'm tempted to go through the trash that I had in my car that I through out today but I don't really think your worth it. and I'm a liar? you seriously need to see a mental health specialist... really... God have mercy on your soul.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Go ahead and look through your trash for your imaginary paper. And I'm the one who needs mental help? hahaha
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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jkulesha 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 I'm a liar? why does someone have to pick between being religous or gay? wow maybe you need to go sit in with the kids in primary.
Like I already said in my first comment. Jesus said you can't serve 2 masters you will love one or hate the other. Jesus said,"what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his own soul." Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul." If you don't know the verse thats not my fault you don't know the scriptures.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Yes you are a liar. What's my bishop's name?
So tell me oh Lord, If being gay is a sin, then you're saying that sinners shouldn't be religious right?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Don't you think that God loves all his children and as you can see through this mans testimony in this video that he was very active in trying to help him become straight and at one point manifested the power of the holy ghost to have him ask a girl out and told him she could be his wife if he let a 'part of him die' and no I'm not lying he said that in the other videos if you watch them. If you don't repent you can't be saved, I guess you don't know the 2nd principle of the gospel
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Answer my question. If being gay is a sin, then you're saying that sinners shouldn't be religious right?
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Why would me, someone preaching , obeying god, trying to get people to repent and forsake their sins so they can experience Gods plan of happiness, ever tell someone they can't be religous? If you are a sinner you should be ever more religous no matter what your sin is, gay or not. Jesus said,"whoever is forgiven of much loves much." When are you gonna wake up and admit YOU are wrong not me. Religous people shouldn't sin, that's the point, you would let the devil use you for evil
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha Lying isn't obeying God. Sorry to break it to you.
Uh, that's what I was telling YOU in the first place! Of course religious people SHOULDN'T sin, but you said that he has to pick between the two. WHICH IS WRONG. YOU are wrong. You have no place telling him that he shouldn't be religious if he is also gay.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 I never said that, again twisting my words to fit your own agenda so that you can try to escape the condemnation you are under... jesus said,"whoever is not with me is against me."
And the guy recently told me he is in a 5 year relationship with 'a guy' so what did he pick the church or his homosexuality? If he picked Jesus he would have forsaken all and followed him... I'm sorry to tell you but there is good and evil, there is no in between, jesus is the law, he doesn't sugar coat
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha You said exactly that. You can stop lying and twisting your false words around because it's not working. I'm under no condemnation but you can keep thinking you have that kind of power. It's quite funny actually.
Well you have been lying quite a bit to me today so it looks like you have chosen sin and forsaken Jesus. You're right, there isn't any grey area. And you've crossed the line many times so far within a short amount of time.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 In your own mind, I have spoken plainly and if you weren't doing anything wrong I wouldn't have written the church an 11 page letter with our conversation for them to read and judge. Have a nice life.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha haha first of all you're a liar so I'm not worried in the least. Second, even if you did copy the whole convo on to a letter, I'm still in the right. Even if I believed your lies, I am not afraid of what I said. Not even for a second little boy. You are the one who should be afraid.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 Homosexuality is a sin period, if you choose sin, you obviously have chosen to break the commandments, this is a plain and simple thing to understand, if you choose to keep the commandments you choose not to sin, for whatever reason they may be to do either or. If you got a problem with me telling someone to make up their mind being gay or religous in a statement I made a few days ago and want to ellaborate on it and nitpick trying to over exxagerate and condemn me thats your choice
jkulesha 1 year ago
" if you choose sin, you obviously have chosen to break the commandments"
The ten commandments?
ma049 1 year ago
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Pisces31660 1 year ago
"@ma049 get over your cheap self. no body "chooses" sin. no body chooses to be gay"
Ah Mr Pisces you misunderstood the pont.:
Think of a man who thinks being gay is wrong but is not sexually attracted to men; on what basis does he hold himself to be morally superior to man who is sexually attracted to men?
Think of poor Mr Jkulesha, who is sexually attracted to men but thinks being gay is sinful. He has a tougher moral choice than me who digs women.
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 I'm not gay you idiot
jkulesha 1 year ago
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" I'm not gay you idiot"
Mr jkulesha, please do not be angry. I am not judging you. Only God has that right.
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 New testament, book of mormon, and whatever other commandments mormons believe in scriptures.lds.org
jkulesha 1 year ago
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"New testament, book of mormon, and whatever other commandments mormons believe in scriptures.lds.org"
I asked for specifics, you do not know them?
ma049 1 year ago
@jkulesha Yup and i choose to do so because you are wrong and you have no place to judge sinner.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 The facts are, if I were accused of sin, if applicable I would humble myself, you choose to pick a statement on this post and proceeded to use disrespectful words to address me from the begining that immediately prove your unworthiness in church standings by the way you carry yourself and the testimony you want people to recieve of you. There is No way anyone would think you are a worthy priesthood holder who loves god and keeps his commandments and isn't offended at his teachings.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha The facts are, You're a liar. Even if you did find my bishop's name and talked to his wife. SHE DOESN'T KNOW ME AT ALL. Like I said, I haven't even been to that ward yet. You said she already knew me and you kept going on and on with your lies. That, is a lie. You need to repent and get a life.
I don't know who you think you are but calling you out on your fallacies is not grounds to loose any worthiness, You are a nobody.
I'm not offended by His teachings but obviously you are.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
@Nixmix24 If I was guilty of sin I would be the first to admit it. I am in no way sinful encouraging someone to forsake homosexuality and serve God. If I would change my statement for someone to pick homosexuality and being a devoted mormon, pick mormonism, I don't take back what I say, and I'm not saying what I said was perfect according to your standards, but the facts are that this guy in this video had to pick sides, and he picked homosexuality, when God offered him happiness with a woman.
jkulesha 1 year ago
@jkulesha You are guilty of sin. LYING.
Nixmix24 1 year ago
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"You are guilty of sin. LYING."
Is taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others sinful? I ask because he expressed pleasure at anotthers misdeadings.
ma049 1 year ago
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@Nixmix24 Ok I found the paper so your bishops name is Ron M******, his wife gave me his first name, if it's ronald maybe thats the 6 letters you speak of. for his sake I will black it out but you already told me his last name and so did mormon.org... and for those that are reading this... you can get a free book of mormon on that website as well... anyways Your stake president's name is richard a***d I'm not putting both addresses on youtube.
jkulesha 1 year ago
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Hello Mr Jkulesha,
" don't use my priesthood to try and win any argument,"
Congratulations, to be a priest is an excellent hobby. Do you have a job that gives you the spare time to do this priesting?
"It is obvious you are gay otherwise you would not be in such a heated debate,"
But you are in this debate to? Are you also in love with men?
ma049 1 year ago
@ma049 The debate is referring to the fact that my original comment said,"This guy * in the video* acts feminine, *which is proof he is following a homosexual spirit and given full way to it*, and that you need to pick one or the other,*then I said* you ca