Ariane 5 Launch of HOT BIRD 9 and W2M

[FR3DisGAY]

damn that fat thing takes off fast

[Briggie]

Are these still man-rated? I read that it was originally built to lift ESA's shuttle ,which didn't come through. It's acceleration seems to be pretty high for something that can carry people.

[blablubb12345]

@Briggie

The A5 was never man-rated, that requirement was removed after the Hermes project died. But as it was designed with man-rating in mind, only minor modifications would be needed. Initial acceleration would not be a problem, it's about the same as the Space Shuttle.

[Briggie]

@blablubb12345

I see, thank you. I don't know if they changed anything since I read it last, the Wikipedia article on it wasn't very clear about that, and made it sound like it still was. Admittedly, I am not exactly knowledgeable on European spaceflight. Since we (the U.S) are not going to have manned spaceflight soon (and most likely not for quite some time), I came across an article about the Ariane 5.

[Armigo91]

@Briggie

With a shuttle mounted on top off it acceleration would be less, main tank would be bigger. The shuttle main tank is bigger then the ariane. Just remodified as the ariane 5 is only used for payloads. Good, but cheap option. Exspecially if your not using it for man-rated flights.

Luckily it never became a shuttle,

A similar design to the shuttle is a bad design.

[jonmikelk]

This rocket has a unique problem: to activate the solid rocket takes off with too much violence

[cuteycharm0202]

@jonmikelk it caues such a violent take off. Rare ive seen a rocket take off like that

[blablubb12345]

@cuteycharm0202

Titan 4, Atlas V 551 or the Space Shuttle, to name a few.

[blablubb12345]

@jonmikelk

No, that's not unique. All rockets with big solid "first stages" like the Titan 4, the Space Shuttle and the Atlas-V (the versions with 3 or 5 solid boosters) have a similar liftoff acceleration of about 1.5 to 1.6 g.

[Armigo91]

@jonmikelk

Thats why the ariane 5 is used for payloads, and no human spaceflight.

Youd be squeezed like a pancake sitting on top of this rocket.

[RobertsDigital]

@Armigo91 The European Space Agency has taken over from Nasa on the mars mission....tthey are preparing to send men to mars. However Nasa will be involved too.The European Space Agency was the first to land a probe on one of saturns moons (Titan), where hydrocarbon lakes containing natural gas was discovered.

[mariusrodrigo]

@Armigo91 No, Ariane is qualified for Human Spaceflight, and it was designed to launch the Hermès shuttle.

It's just a matter of money.

[jonmikelk]

This rocket has a unique problem: to activate the solid rocket takes off with too much violence

[MasterDK94]

frickin fast take-off!

[iman2341]

Is it just me or does that thing accelerate really damn fast. :P

[Xytan4]

Audio is out of sync.

[ThreeCharlieKilo]

For such a large rocket it sure does haul ass. Wonderful! =D

[saintrow69]

lol this is so out of sinch

[motormonkeyNL]

infact the first rocket that went to the moon was designed by a german scientist

also the first nuclear bomb was designed by a german

same goes for the combustion engine ect etc......

[motormonkeyNL]

only germany had the tech to go to space back in 1945

not france or russia or america

[Skaveeful]

always wondered what they put outside of the rocket, this white thing that falls of on take off, seen it on Apollo launches aswell.

[compooperguy]

@Skaveeful The fuel used is very cold, and the outside is too.

Its so cold that moisture on the outside forms ice.

When the rocket takes off, the ice cracks and falls off because

of the extreme heat made by the engines.

[klaus4blitz]

I'm not european and I'm fair. An information is that France alone has launched first rocket in 1965 from Algeria becoming 3rd space power , while many european countries couldn't together launch one. So not france without other is nothing but in space europeans without the leadershop of France are nothing like nuclear power, space and aeronautics..

[euripvid]

the Ariane is 58 % French (owner). the new concept of the Ariane 5 comes from a german engineer director: Horst Holsten. just an info for our french friends :-)

[HAL11000]

@ 0:50. That's the most beautiful rocket-engine ignition i've ever seen.

[whoobonhooaglo]

trop bien

[X7mosquito7X]

stay cool folks

this is neither french, nor german, nor anything national, it's just a european machine giving one more evidence of what europeans can do whenever they work together.

also this shows how important guiana is to us since it's located right on the equator, which makes it a perfect place to launch space vehicles.

[blablubb12345]

Guiana is not placed right on the equator, it's 5° north. Basically all orbits from 5° to polar and sun-synchronous can be flown from a single pad which makes the CSG the best land based spaceport today.

[Zoomer30]

To bad we cant just let ESA launch our Orion ship ;) They got the perfect launcher all ready. Almost looks like it has shuttle SRBs.

[RobertsDigital]

What country is this rocket? France?

[earpinch2]

EU.

[RobertsDigital]

EU is not really a country...

[earpinch2]

BUT the most exact description of where the rocket comes from.

[houlala16]

France

[mariusrodrigo]

Yes it's a French rocket.

[adlerzwei]

no it's european. ESA is a the european space agency where many country work together but the launch site is in french guiana ;-)

[mariusrodrigo]

Of course ESA is European, but Ariane has nearly nothing to do with ESA, and is a French rocket!

[adlerzwei]

well arianeespace is 60 % french 18 % german 9% italian etc. and ariane is manufactured under the authority of the ESA.

[mariusrodrigo]

No Ariane is built under the scientific authority of the French CNES with funds regrouped by the ESA. ESA is just a customer.

[adlerzwei]

well i'm quite interessted in aerospace ingeneering myself (that's what i'm studying). all those information are from the hompage of the ESA and other aerospace websites.

you are perfectly right but i think it's wrong to say ariane is only french because on the space shuttle you can only see the american flag but on ariane there are many flags....and i think a flag means a lot

I hope you can see my point know.

pardon my english i'm not a native speaker

[mariusrodrigo]

Of course Ariane is not only French, but I think it's unfair to say it's European. I would say that Ariane is mainly a French project with european cooperation (and even canadian cooperation).

For the flags, yes there are many flags, but it's a symbol, all these flags are there because without european money, Ariane V wouldn't exist.

[SaGruenwdt]

@mariusrodrigo this is the typically problem of europe. always nations say this is mainly only OURs.. we shold start to say our alls nations! and just because the count down is in french (thats to understand cause its settled in french guiana) it's not mainly a french project. i guess we all others should stop to pay then you'll see where the project belongs too! btw. the boosters are from germany... ;o) the director of development for ariane was Horst Holsten a german! WIKI!!

[mariusrodrigo]

@SaGruenwdt I'm just saying that it's unfair to say that Ariane is "European". Ariane is designed by the French CNES, lunched from France, mainly built in France, commercialized by a French company, and controlled from France.

You know, I've no problem with Europe, but I can't stand when my taxes pay for something called "European" by ignorant people.

Ariane is MAINLY a French project, with strong european cooperation.

ESA is a european agency, that's fair to say it, but not Ariane.

[SaGruenwdt]

@mariusrodrigo disagree! france is pushing this in a way that it looks like a national program for the national pride! you can see this on your passport too lol... there is a picture of a rocket that isnt even invented there. sure its launched from france cause thats the only point that europe has next to the equator. controlled sure cause it starts from there...but still, without the others you wouldnt bee nothing. sorry! and ariane was invented in order of ESA!

[remmahsroht]

@SaGruenwdt

I'm french and I don't see Ariane program like a french one. Even from our media, Ariane isn't presented like it's an all french thingy. For your information, the rockets aren't launched from France, they are launched from Guyane française, who is quite ideal. You're right, the more the launch site is near from equateur, the more effective the fuel used to lift off the rocket will be.

[blablubb12345]

@mariusrodrigo No, ESA designed Ariane with system leadership by CNES. The parts are built all across Europe. France: Main cryogenic stage, engine assembly Germany: Second stage, booster casings, engine thrust chambers, dual launch systems Spain: VEB Italy: solid propellant Switzerland: Payload fairing, paiload adapters Netherlands: Thrust structures Sweden: Engine parts ...

[mariusrodrigo]

@RobertsDigital I won't start a flaming contest about the power of France and you childish reference to WWII, but you just have to know that France is one of the leader in the engeenering field (with Japan, US, and Germany).

And no, Germany and Britain are not able to build their own rockets because it IS a big deal, you have to master tons of different technologies. France is among the 3 only countries in the world (with Russia and the US) to know how to build an ICBM.

Holland: LOL

[mariusrodrigo]

@RobertsDigital This is because France has built its own ISBM's that they have been able to buil space rockets alone until Ariane IV.

No other country in Europe was able to do that.

Now there is European cooperation, that's good for the taxpayers.

[raikko30]

@RobertsDigital

So why they don't launch their own rocket?

Why France is leading that corporation? :)

[RobertsDigital]

@raikko30 ???

[gammler0852]

lol and what are the 60% ? Baguette and plastic?

the engines are made by an Baden-Würtembergische Space organisation(astrium) and the director of the ariane programm was also german:P so damn dont call it french

[Sebou4ever]

You're right ! But remember, EAS is an EUROPEAN society. That's how it works in Europe! Together we go.

[astronome9]

gammler: Astrium is not German, it is European, with factories and technical-research centers in France, England, Germany, Italy, among others. But the French were the first to initiate the project, and still remain one of the most important if not the most important partner.

[astronome9]

gammler: sorry, instead of Italy, put Spain, and add Holland.

Also, the President of EADS ASTRIUM launch systems is Alain Charmeau, he is FRENCH, not German. So the French deserve a lot of credit for Ariane 5, although other European nations also deserve part of it. It is a truly European collaboration.

[gammler0852]

damn not talking about astrium im talking about the rockets whcih ARe definietely main developed in the astrium factory in baden wüprttember. im absolutely sure about that because i talked to a worker of this factory 2 months ago...

[FredAndCoInc]

@adlerzwei La Technologie Ariane et le programme Ariane ont été conçu par le CNES , La France en assure la majorité du financement et Ariane 6 sera financer par la France. Par ailleurs la France est le seul pays en Europe et un des trois au monde à maitrisé entièrement la technologie des Missiles Balistique intercontinentaux (comme le M-51). 

[BigKwell]

The one downside of these launches is to French Guiana's tourist trade. They have to evacuate Devil's Island whenever they have to launch any rocket there.

[jutsu973]

Je suis content qu'elle décolle chez moi en Guyane Française (Amérique du Sud) car je peux vous dire que la nuit c'est magnifique à regarder, c'est comme un mini soleil.

[Badkuipeend]

In Baykonoer. They're launching the Suyuz.

[PriincesaCariioca]

My name is Ariane!

[Buttmunch5000]

Ariane 5 is an amazing machine

[crimsoncoin]

Thank You Spacevidcast channel,love your work, Happy 2009

[MrFireAss]

beautiful.

[nilbud]

Who's the pushy frog?

[U5K0]

thanks for posting this. night launches are great!! :)

[horneyvirus]

Woohoo..! Go science. Go India.