jjez - more uses for stick control (drummers bible)

[jhelmsuploads]

Dude, man ive just got to thank you for this. using the book Stick Control, and your Index Cards idea, has made a world of difference. Really really great idea. i want to recommend anyone watching this, definitely do the index card thing with the 16 "Left Hand, Right Hand, 8th note patterns.) made a huge difference. especially the idea about using one for group pattern for my feet and another for my hands. Made a world of difference. thanks again. try offbeats in there too using the cards

[MrTomJepson]

Nice, man. Has given me some food for thought.

(Tighten that snare head up!)

[sweetfly66]

These are good exercises , if not a little confusing . A simpler way to use stick control on drumset is to break the right and left hand up between the snare and ride cymbal ... HH on 2 and 4 ... and then play the individual stickings with your hands as written in the book ... the bass drum goes with the right hand , then the left hand , then a samba ... do this in cut time and 4/4 with swing 8ths

[drumer122]

wow i like that very good combinations

[actualproof6]

Did my posts make any sense? I think i'm gonna do a video.

feed back is awesome!

[shadowlorde]

it'd make more sense if you make a video. make a vid and tell me when you do .. i will def watch it ... drummers get along unlike any other instrument

[actualproof6]

Part 2 uses the same exercise, RLRR LRLL, but we ignore R=right and L=left. We have to do this because we now play the para diddle between Left foot and Left hand, or hihat and snare. HSHH SHSS. on the right side of the body, Ride and BD. BRBB RBRR.

the key is to rotate between all the combination. The following are the various combination STARTING POINTS: 1)H+B 2)H+R 3)S+B 4)S+R

Step 3: do this, but do it starting with the right side of the body, as if it were orriginally the feet

[actualproof6]

This is how I used those pages for independence.

Ex. 5 is RLRR LRLL. Play this pattern with the feet. Simultaneously, play this pattern with the hands. So, the right limbs hit together, and the left the same. Then switch the sticking with the hands to LRLL RLRR, but keep the feet the same.

Now, start the feet with L, and the hands with R. Then, the natural variation is hands start with L, and feet stay the same.

This is PART 1 of many.

[tubbedude]

dude thanks for the advice on righting it down and then playing lol,

ive been taking patterns like doubles and paradiddles and playing didles with feet and doubles with hands and such, and the little tip of writing them out has helped me alot in breaking it down.

[kalarrarie]

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demais brother essa sua iniciativa de compartilhar o livro stick control c essa galera de bateras q ñ tem acesso a ele como eu!ainda nem assisti mas so pelo fato de eu te ver abrindo esse livro para explicar p gente,vc ja é merecedor de honras de graça!!!

valeu meu irmão continue a contagiar as pessoas com o mundo da bateria!!!!!!!!

diogo,salvador bahia brasil.

[HNIC94]

dude, nice work. you just blurted about a months worth of stuff to work on.. if your a serious student but probably playing each pattern you examined for a day or so alone would keep a drummer busy. Thanks! I generally use the Kenny Arnoff version of moving the patterns around the toms once the single surface is solid. I'll get to work the feet!

[beats1969]

by listening to your feel i can tell you play alot of different styles,and i bet you play them really,really well !! like your feel !! you also would make a great teacher !!

[jpsartre000]

Nice tip for Stick Control. An obvious way to use the book when you think of it--but didn't think of it! Nice independence.

[shadowlorde]

thanks. another thought... if anyone thinks of any other ways to use this simple book please tell me

[cradrum]

Try the hi hat vamping quarter notes (foot), R's are right hand AND bass together, and left hand is business as usual on the snare drum. My teacher would have me play the exercises cross column (p. 5 1+13, 2+14, etc. down the page). really opens up yours playing, hope it helps!

[ckyisyourfuture]

It's kind of furthering your note cards concept, but what I've been doing is taking one of the easier foot patterns as 8th notes and layering a different pattern on top of it as 16th notes. Like...

RLRRLRLLRLRRLRLL

R L L R L L R L

It'll line up if you paste it into a word processor and set the font to Courier since it doesn't line up here. But yeah, that's the basic idea.

[hamaknaflint]

woe man! the brain of your's, so powerful.. i never thought of that "stick control" book would be useful for practicing independence, thanks a lot man for sharing your ideas... i'm having a hard time now for practicing the single beat combination the ones on the 5th page.

[hamaknaflint]

woe man! the brain of your's.. so powerful, thanks a lot for sharing your ideas, i never thought of that "stick control" book would be very useful for practicing independence stuff... i'm having a hard time now practicing that.

[mafiako12]

callalily's drummer s da best!

[drummer78]

Good stuff.

[March869]

I would muffle the bass

[Drummer519]

I would suggest playing these patterns as if you're comping; play the snare and kick VERY lightly. Don't bury the kick drum beater in the head and don't rim shot the snare. The hi hat should be the loudest sound source next to the ride.

[Drummer519]

I would suggest playing these as if you're comping; play the snare and kick VERY lightly. Don't bury the beater in the kick and don't rim shot any snare hits. The hi hat should be pretty much the loudest sound source next to the ride.

I like the the use of the Stick Control patterns with the hands on cymbal and snare and feet on hi hat and kick. I've been using a lot of that with my students lately.

Keep it up!