From the movie "Hunger". Sands - Priest dialogue, part 2

[TheMossad921]

well im fucking polish and couldnt understand a goddamn word lol. Anyone know what was dying in the stream at 10:00?

[22grena]

All praise to McQueen.

[TheMossad921]

@22grena what was dying in the stream at 10:00?

[22grena]

@TheMossad921 A foal

[crossybhoy]

@22grena McQueen is due applause (another good film on the subject is Some Mother's Son0, but all praise goes to Bobby Sands, Francis Hughes, Ray McCreesh, Patsy O'Hara, Joe McDonnell, Martin Hurson, Kevin Lynch, Keiran Doherty, Thomas McElwee, Micky Devine, (the inneumerable others who went on strike in the Blocks and females in Armagh Gaol who's families were pressured to take them off or survived when the Strike was taken off) Michael Gaughin, Frank Stagg, MacSwinney, Thomas Ashe etc.

[22grena]

@crossybhoy True. Fassbender did honour Bobby Sands memory.

[topbloke1UK]

Great scene, great film! - Check out my monologue - I used the same scene of Bobby's 'foal story' for my acting showreel - took me ages to get the Northern Ireland accent right - Thanks!

[ZigZagRunner]

determination and constitution

[josparkes1]

The violence shown here is sickening, and shameful. and degrades not only the prisoners but the prison authorities too, I saw this film on tv and recorded it.

[22grena]

@josparkes1 I think you miss the point

[josparkes1]

@22grena Talking about what is really the point, is always better than torture.

[rebellionVII]

Watched this scene in drama class today. Was totally blown away. Where can I get this movie???

[suzyj1123]

Truly powerful, great tribute to the 10

[TulseLuper]

Unfortunately breaking this scene up into two videos makes it lose part of its power, but hey, that's what you have to do. Thanks for posting this remarkable scene regardless.

[caillou1966]

This whole scene was shot in one go - amazing scence; amazing balance.

[wackerwedge]

Incredible scene. What I don't know is how anyone could listen to what is said around the 4:00 mark without realising that the priest is completely right.

[dpsmg]

What do you mean?

[crossybhoy]

@wackerwedge This was not suicide. Do you know anything of Irish History? This was to re-instate PoW status. 5 demands. Bobby was an elected Member of the British Parliament whilst on Hunger Strike - elected by the people. He died to give his comrades an easier life in prison. "no greater love can any man show than to lay down his life for his friends". Didnt Christ say that? And what about Christ? Knowing he'd be tortured & killed. Dead. He didnt flee, let the Romans get him - was that suicide?

[crossybhoy]

@wackerwedge ...I dont have Bobby's diary from the first 17days on Hunger Strike. He was still welcomed in Mass, had multiple conversations with priests (and support from a Cardinal no less). He wasn't on strike for a United Ireland - it was for 5 demands: 1. the right to wear own clothes 2. one letter and parcel per week 3. the Right to educate themselves 4. Free association and 5. Full Remission of everything lost...

[crossybhoy]

@wackerwedge ... sorry, I meant I dont have the diaries to hand to use for quotes. The Criminalisation Programme by the British Government and oversaw by Roy Mason to turn a legitamite army into common criminals. They were systematically beaten, abused: torture in every form (and torture during the Strike - massive portions of food for example, left in the cell for ages to try and weaken a man who's trying to help his fellow man) for not wearing a prison uniform & so began the Blanket protest...

[crossybhoy]

@wackerwedge ...then the beatings en route to the toilets, humiliating and severely unhygeinic searches which started the 'dirty protest' of no wash and, as without a prison uniform you couldnt slop out, the windows were sealed so excretia had to be smeared on walls and urine poured under the door, which was sweeped back under at nights. Imagine living in these conditions: hair matted, beyond filthy, sleepin in a urine soaked mattress with excrement on the walls and flies and maggots everywhere

[crossybhoy]

@wackerwedge in those conditions they fought the only way they could - their refusal to capitulate; to become criminals. Fighting a foreign, oppressive, unwanted, occupying force. They weren't on hunger strike to Unite Ireland but to have PoW status. For their army, the IRA, to be a legitimate army which it is. He, and 9 others, died to save fellow PoWs from being tortured in the same way in a British Concentration camp. How dare you call that suicide.

[22grena]

@crossybhoy Because he is a Unionist and cant be helped .

[jeffersonpedler]

One of the best pro Irish films ever!!

Should have had a wider audience.

These 2 Irish actors show how much talent there is in Eire.

Acting.

Art.

I'm an Australian soldier, with Irish heritage and proud, serving OS.

Tiocfaidh ár lá

[josparkes1]

@jeffersonpedler This film was on TV a few weeks ago, so I recorded it.

[uani69]

AMAZING- thats fucking acting

[Scoob505]

wow