mm akbar 2010 speech FIGHTING in ISLAM QST? niche of truth muslim kerala samvadam new

[marenchery]

khalid@isalam upekshich thankal engottanau poyath ennu paranjilla,a mahathaya" prasthanam" onnu arinjirikkana

[PRIDEISSIN1]

Muhammad eventually made an alliance with another town, Medina, that included provisions of war against the Meccans. The parties to the treaty were asked “Do you realize to what you are committing yourselves in pledging your support to this man? It is to war against all and sundry” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 299). Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 305.

Therefore, it was only after Muhammad committed himself to armed revolution against the Meccans that the town’s leaders sought to have him either killed or evicted.

[PRIDEISSIN1]

Here the summary

1.Muhammad was not persecuted in Meeca " for preaching Islam".He offended Meecans first instead of changing their heart with beautiful teaching

2.From the very beginning, he and his armed friends looted,plundered Meecan caravans and killed their people started the hostility and lead to the battle of Badar and Uhud.

3.It was Muhammad who violated the Treaty of Hudaibiya first before Meecans violated it.He signed it b/ Muslims were weak, he broke it b/c Muslims are strong now.

[PRIDEISSIN1]

The Quraysh said that Muhammad and his Companions violated the sanctity of the Sacred Month and shed blood, confiscated property and took prisoners during it. Those who refuted them among the Muslims who remained in Makkah replied that the Muslims had done that during the month of Sha`ban (which is not a sacred month). (Ibn Kathir). Muslims decided to kill as many as they could of them and take what they had. Waqid shot Amr bin al-Hadrami with an arrow killed him (Ibn i425)

[PRIDEISSIN1]

Abu Sufyan, with other sundry notables, went to Abu Talib and said: "You know the trouble that exists between us and your nephew, so call him and let us make an agreement that he will leave us alone and we will leave him alone; let him have his religion and we will have ours." (Ibn 278).

Meccans explained trouble they had endured from him. He had declared their mode of life foolish, insulted their forefathers, reviled their religion, divided the community and cursed their gods (Ibn I 183).

[PRIDEISSIN1]

So it was Muhammad who created trouble in Meeca first

When the apostle openly displayed Islam as Allah ordered him, his people did not withdraw or turn against him, so far as I have heard, until he spoke disparagingly of their gods. When he did that, they took great offence and resolved unanimously to treat him as an enemy. (Ibn Ishaq167).

Leaders went to Abu Tablib said “Your nephew has cursed our gods, insulted our religion, mocked our way of life and accused our forefathers of error[Ibn 168]

[PRIDEISSIN1]

Mr Akbar,

What other options a humiliated, defeated Meecans had?

Why Muhammad did not earn the heart of Meecans with those 90 beautiful suras in 13 years?

When he preached violence offered war booties[ 80% conquered booties /women for jihadists and 20% to the state] look at the growth of Islam.

Within 10 years the entire arabia and within 100 years

60% of all known world Islam conquered with violent Jihad. 1. Accept Islam 2. Pay Jiziya and submit to sharia 3.Fight until get killed.

[PRIDEISSIN1]

Mr Akbar totally misrepresented the stories of all three Jewish tribes, to defend his prophet.

I want readers to read independent analysis[ not anti Islamic] of these stories.

You will reach one conclusion, he hated Jews because they refused to accept him as a true prophet. That is the only reason. all others are pretext or excuse to attack ,plunder and eliminate them from Arabia collectively .

Last word on his death bed "kick out all Jews/christian from Arabia. Umar faithfully executed it.

[PRIDEISSIN1]

My friend Akbar Sir want to defend his prophet at any cost.I can understand that.

Yes Badar and Uhud are close to Medina. Why these war? Meecans have no interest in Muhammad. From the very beginning he arrived in Medina, he and his armed friends began to loot and plunder Meecan caravans passing through Medina.It affected their economy and their living. That is why they come to war with Muhammad for self defense

Why Mr Akbar can not tell his audience the truth?It was Muhammad who started the war

[PRIDEISSIN1]

It was not the theory of Nakish or abrogation in Islam. Look at 90 Meecan peacful suras when prophet was weak politically and militarily

Let there is no compulsion. I am a warner only. You keep your religion I keep mine etc. What happened in Medina when he get power

sura-9 is the manifesto of compulsion, hatred and violence aganist humanity. Within 10 years the entire arabia and within 100 years

60% of all known world Islam conquered with violent Jihad

[PRIDEISSIN1]

Muslims blame USA and U.K policies. Is that has something to with Christ or Christ's teaching? They are secular countries where Muslims and Christians have " equal" rights?

Jesus said "My Kingdom is not of this world, otherwise my disciples would have fight for me".

True Christianity is not political, but it is personal.

We can debate whether Constaine, Bush or Obama were good christians or not?

But Islam was political from day 1. Islam wiped out 90% Xtns in the M east

[PRIDEISSIN1]

Violence in OT, Israel then and now is 0.01% of the middle east.

Let us take Joshua's slaughter of women, children and infants .

Dou you know that, God predicted this in Gen.15 ,700 years before.It say it will not happen until "wickedness of cannanites reach its peak".

You still did not understand the violence when Jesus returns is " to manifest God's holiness on unrepentant sinners" after 2000 years of warning.

Yes "on that day " "mass slaughter can happen".

[PRIDEISSIN1]

In the Mishkat II we find an explanation for Jihad: -I

"[Jihad] is the best method of earning both spiritual and temporal. If victory is won, there is enormous booty and conquest of a country which cannot be equalled to any other source of earnings. If there is defeat or death, there is ever-lasting Paradise and a great spiritual benefit. This sort of Jihad is conditional upon pure motive, i.e. for establishing the kingdom of Allah on earth (Mishkat II, pg.253

[PRIDEISSIN1]

The Bible Does not Enjoin the Use of Warfare to Promote the Worship of the True God .Another important point to consider is that nowhere the Old or New Testaments command God's people to attack pagan nations, either in self-defence or as a way to promote the true worship of God. The proclamation of salvation in the Bible is always by witnessing and persuasion. Motivation in Muhammad's warfare is spreading of the rule of Islam by destroying and looting the enemies.

[PRIDEISSIN1]

Christianity turned the Roman world upside down during the first three centuries by the sheer power of the grace of God manifested in the loving and forgiving attitudes of Christians, who were willing to suffer and die for their faith. By contrast, Islam conquered much of the Roman world during the first century of its expansion (632-732) by slaughtering a countless number of innocent people and forcing their faith upon the survivors. What a difference?

[PRIDEISSIN1]

What were Muslims defending in North Africa, or Spain, France, India, Persia, Syria, Anatolia or the Balkans?

Islam killed 270 million innocent human beings and wiped out 90% Christian middle east then to 2% today. per politicalislam/com

Middle East= 60million

Africa= 120 million

India/SA= 80 million

China/Budhist = 10 million

Total dead bodies=270 million

Demand was always 1. Accept Islam 2. Pay Jiziya and submit to sharia 3.Fight until get killed.

[babuantony100]

Akbar please stop your none senses . When Jesus Christ take Sword....

[noveltyify]

pakshe islamine thakarkkan irnghippurappettavar yellam ,islam matham sweekarilkkukayundayathe....ah­med deedat amerikkayil poyi jimmy swaghat,umaayi debate nadathiyathinte pitte divasam 122 perane islam sweegarichathe........

[noveltyify]

@khalidsayd cristian misionerymaar varupaad varsham payattiya adavane thaan ,,,islamika perukal parnchu muslim rajyangalil kadannu koodi sadaranakkare ,vanchikkunna ,pakka misionery islamika aashayangale aashyam kondu neridaan kaziyathe vannappol ,chadiyiloodeyum ,vanchanayiloodeyum islaamine thakarkkam yennu kanakku koottiyavar ,,,,2000 varsham ,veda pusthakuvum. kayyil kodikkanakkine ,dolarum aayi ooru chuttiyavar .......islamine thakarkkan ethra heenamaaya maarghavum sweegarikkum

[khalidsayd]

Rssineyum Vhpiyeyum onnum pandu enikkishtamallaayirunnu..Ippoz­halle avar qurane nirodikkan vendi kodathiyil okke poyathinte kaaryam pidi kittiye..Engane okke chindikkunna mada moulika vaadikalaya muslimkallodu enthu parayaan. Chindikkunnavarku Drishtanthamund. Avar ee grandathile kollaruthayma kandu pidikkunnillee?

[najumudee]

mr.khali...negal elogathay attavum valiya veddiyanu.ethrayum veshathamaye parnju thanittum negal manasilackunilla

[najumudee]

mr.khali...negal elogathay attavum valiya veddiyanu.ethrayum veshathamaye parnju thanittum negal manasilackunilla

[noathies1]

ee speechile mathiri anangil eviduthe rajya snehikalaya muslim pandithan mar indian parlament akramich afsalguru vine vadhikkan parayande,mumbai attak cheythavare udane vadhikan parayande???

[samtm123]

Jesus eppola valu medikkan poyathu??? haaa.. haaa...

[khalidsayd]

Sthreekaleyum kuttikalleyum bandikallakkunnu., Mahanaya pravachakan

[khalidsayd]

Dayavu cheythu Quran vayikkoo..Tafsirukallum Hadisukallum vayikkoo..Appol Islamile krurathakall enthanennu manassilakum.

[khalidsayd]

Oro viishayangallum oro chodyangallanu. Athrakku kuzhappangal und islam mathathil . Athine nyayikarikan yugangal edukkendi varum. Ethra sawmyamayi samsarichalum athine nyayikarikkan kazhiyilla. Athrakku krurathakal islam lokathodu kaanichu. Angane pala karanangallum manassilakkiyappol njan islam upekshichu.

[ichasicha]

@khalidsayd ... ningalk mathathil dristanthamund... ningal chinthikkunnenkil... ithrayum sundaramaya 1 adarshathe upekshichu thankal ethilekkanu poyad....

[khalidsayd]

@ichasicha

madathil enthu drishtanthamanullathu..orupaad­u chindichu nokki.onum kandilla. enganeyanu ini chindikkendathu ennu kudi parayoo..Thankall mattu grandangallum vaayikkuka..ennittu ettavum sundaravum sathya sandavumaayathu ethennu swayam vilayirithuka.

Islam prohibits the propoagation of other religions in Islamic Countries.If one quits islam and propogate other religion, he will be killed in an islamic country. Ithannoo sundaramaaya adarsham. Thankall chindichu utharam parayoo...

[ichasicha]

@khalidsayd ella grandhavum muzhuvanallenkilum nhan vayichitund, adil etavum sathyavum viswasayogyvum manoharavum yukthik nirakkunnadum quran mathramanu. islamika rashtrathil oral amuslimayal ayaalk avide thamasikkan avakashamilla, adu rajyadrohamanu.. rajyadrohiyude shiksha maranamalle.. prostitution illatha, madyamillatha, palishayillatha paavapettavante avakashangal samrakshikkunna edu samhidhayanullad.

[ichasicha]

@khalidsayd islamika rashtrathil jeevikkunna oru muslim citizenu matham mari avide thamasikkan avakashamilla, avanu vere rashtrathil poyi jeevikkam, avide islamika shareeathinu virudhamayi jeevikkunnad rajyadrohamanu, rajyadrohiyude shiksha maranamalle.. ithrayum manoharamaya viswasa samhitha evideyullad. prostitution illatha, palisha illatha, madyamillatha, paavapettavanteyum sthreekaludeyum kuttikaludeyum avakashangal samrakshikkunna ithra manoharamaya viswasa samhitha verevide und

[khalidsayd]

@ichasicha

Ha ha ...enthoru kaadatham..Mada swadandryam illaatha Islamika Shariath undaakunnathu thanne kaadathamalle...Ingane aanenkil muslimkalle onnum ivide jeevikkan anuvadikkarud. Itrayum vrithiketta niyamangall ulla Quran thanne nirodikkanam.. Entammoo...idanoo sundaramaaya grandaa. Ningade okke manasakshi evide poyi kuttare. Madam maariyavane kollanam polum. Vere rashtrathil poyaal avide muslimkalku janadipathyathilude madam prajarikkam. Mulimkall ullidath islamik shariath. Very cunning