Stevenson was relentless , looked the part , rugged and cold ! Jane sounded the part and acted out the pain the punisher felt better , this is mostly to do with the movie's being set in different stages of Franks life tho i think ! both movies are awesome !
Ray Stevenson played better. Tom Jane was not the Punisher; he was blackmailing and setting up his enemies. The real Punisher shoots first and never asks questions.
Ray Stevenson all the way because he was what the Punisher is - a vengence machine. I do love me some Thomas Jane, too but for what The Punisher represents, Stevenson all the way. And someone said he was out of shape? Holy shit! I have met the man. 6' 4" and built like a brick shit-house. He looks intimidating as hell.
Thomas Jane is by FAR, the better of the two. Stevenson was depicted as more superhuman, than a normal guy, Jane was a man, with a vengeance, not superhuman, but man.
Ray Stevenson seems like a more darker Punisher to me, I really wasn't too thrilled that they changed Punisher's' rather than that Jane should have been allowed more movies for himself to develop as the actor and his character to develop. Both were good, but it took a very long time for me to even watch War Zone, just because I hate when they cast new people. In my opinion they should have allowed Jane to further develop and he wasn't the original Punisher either but he was my favorite
Hands down Thomas Jane. He gives the punishers character more emotion. Ray Stevenson plays a generic action hero going around killing bad guys... By the way, most people forget about Dolph Lundgren. He played the punisher in 1989.
I just saw both movies back to back. it is without contest Ray Stevenson truley is the punisher in respect to Thomas Jane he is a really cool actor .. but the cold hard fact is hes is just not the punisher ..Punisher war zone KILLED the other punisher movie ten fold more guts more violence more punishment The other punisher movie with Tom was just a dissapointment .... it fell flat and it did not meet punishing standards .. hey this is just my opinion okay
Ray Stevenson was more like of a killing machine.. a.k.a. a fucking robot. no emotions, none. Punisher is still human, ya'll know that. So.. Tom Jane all the way!!! He's more on lines, emotions.. flashbacks and speech, which makes a GOOD movie and makes him more of a human, rather than shoot here, there, every-fucking-where.. which T-800s do.. boring..then for the worst part..doesn't get shot?.. srsly?
I understand why people like the other guy from War Zone more then Thomas Jane from the Punisher, but I hated that movie, because their weapons for War Zone look like a childs play thing, that movie was pretty much a piece of crap, srry... I honestly thought the story in the Trailer could work, but no they butchered it... The 2004 movie was so, so much better...
Even the 1984 Punisher was way better then War Zone, srry...
At first I had high hopes for the Ray Stevenson movie, but it was a dud for me. Just mindless repetitious killing, like a bad videogame. He goes in this room, shoots baddies, goes to the next room, shoots baddies. Rinse and repeat. Boring.
Ray Stevenson has much better mug for the Punisher. Just look at the comics. I liked both films, but I couldn't take Jane's part seriously... I mean look at him, he looks like someone who's ready to pull out a guitar and sing in a Baywatch movie. Ray has a more brutal face. Fact.
@tgh00ker lol nice.. I think he has a good look, but I love the style Ray brings to it. I like Thomas Jane because his characters can take a beating. Give'em Hell Malone was a good movie (Thomas Jane).
@Lordenry100 Actualy....While Jane is softer then Ray's movie ist Janes that is more like the comics (I've only REALLY read the Max version wich is my favourite)
What about Dolph Lundgren in the 1989 film The Punisher? ;) Nah, I gotta go with Ray Stevenson because he look closest to the Comic Book Punisher. But Thomas Jane wasn't a bad choice at all, and I liked his film (2004) better then the new one (2008).
@KornFcknOwns In fact I have watched them all dear friend !!! since the punisher of 1989 frank castle then was Dolph Lundgren, and i also played the punisher as a video game & i read some comic books as well !!! i really loved how Ray Stevenson kill and execute the bad people but Thomas Jane has perfectly incarnated the role of Frank Castle so emotionally and deeply so much better then Rey.. that's my opinion we can discuss it but you have to respect it whether you liked it or not.
Thomas Jane is a million times better!! He just looks like a hard ass pissed off drunk! and he's a better actor and the first was better because marvel should never do shoot em ups!
I enjoyed them both, the only problem when watching the first one is I already knew how certain scenes would end because of having read the comics they were based on. I liked that in the first one Frank tricked Saint into killing people he was close to. I loved the ultra violence of the second one.
Ray Stevenson looks like he could floor Thomas Jane with one punch. I enjoyed Punisher War Zone alot more while I thought some of the writing was more clever in the first one. All in all, Ray Stevenson.
I Feel like the first one was a better movie story wise, and the second was more faced on action. Ray Stevenson is better at the fire fights where as Thomas Jane was better at the acting parts. Both were good, in my opinion i like Thomas Jane better.
@zomfgpaNic The punisher Does what he can to protect the innocent. He Punishes the Wicked By death. Thomas Jane Did that perfectly. Ray just did Shoot'em up Punisher style. Jane Did an amazing Take on The Punishers Welcome back, Frank.
never watched the Lundgren version. I do like bother Punisher and warzone. Honestly could care less which is better. The only thing that pisses me off in warzone is they kill off Jigsaw. WTF???
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Damn why do they keep doing this? FUCK HOLLYWOOD!!!! nah just kidding just the same WHAT THE HELL!!!!!
I liked all of the punishers. But out of all of them Warzone was truest to the comic. Dolfs was good for an opener to the series of vigilanty style movies wich gave way to such titles as Boondock Saints , and Janes was a pretty good origin story. Now if the people knew all of these Punisher movies, I think they would make better choices instead of "thomas jane iz da best evar lul" that kind of bullshit gets on my nerves to no end
@kaldicuct War Zone was"true" only to the MAX Punisher Line which is a standalone series that isn't at all Connected or Cannon with the overall Punisher continuity. Ray Stevenson portrayed the Max Punisher Line while Jane was patterned off of Jim Lees more classic Punisher.
@thebluemaggot Not what i was reffering to but nice tidbit. I was commenting on the brutality of it all. I dont remember him doing many mindfucks. I remember Frank shoving a shotgun down your throat and pulling the trigger. while having your ass pointed at someone else. Canon doesnt matter when its a movie compared to the comic, in V they didnt show Evey to be a hooker, BUT THAT WAS CANON. I know they wont go directly from comic to movie, unless its something like 300 or hills have eyes.
i really like both. if i want to watch sum kickass death scenes for an hour and a half then ill watch war zone. but if i want an overall better movie, ill go with thomas janes version. dolph lundgren's version was good too.
I can't really say anything about Ray Stevenson because I haven't seen that film but he looks good as him too, but I really like Thomas Jane and his voice especially in the Punisher game, I've got really nice(some sick =P) memories with that game.
I personally love all three punisher movies the 04 one because of the story and i loved watching frank kill those dickheads punisher warzone because of the over the top gore crazy kills and action and the first one because the story and action.
@akumatekkusu666 the whole "looks like him" argument is easily countered by taking art from Jim Lees Punisher and Comparing it to Thomas Jane. Jan is a dead Ringer for Jim Lee's more classic punisher.
And things get really heated. Bullseye is banging this chic (well say Silver Sable for now, she's probably usable here, although the tweaks to her character could piss off fans, but this is MAX Animation here!), who, like Bullseye is sadisitic beyond words. Fury is injured and on the run, SHIELD is facing ruin, and he is searching for Frank, who is trying to take out Kingpin for good, and wants no part of any of this beyond Fisk dead. Let the good times roll!
This could all lead to an amazing animated event where Nick Fury gets a hit put on him by Bullseye, whos rep is somewhat sullied by letting Frank live. So he figures he'll work things out to get 'em both. Kingpin, now at the top of his game and gaming up for a Governor of NY run, needs all ends tied up, and fast. He brings in a woman who is essentialy Black Widow-meets-Elektra, someone who knows Fury and SHIELD very well. And has a merc army of her own. Bullseye eventually strikes a deal withher
I could imagine how awesome it'd be right now: Fury does it and they have a fight and a huge dialoge. Fury is the only living friend of Frank and the only person who is basically "off limits" from being killed, he is just as skilled as Frank and is close to immortal as humans can get, and now Frank is too. Finally Frank whispers "Thank you" to fury, as Fury sets things up for Frank's escape. Saying Frank owes him big down the road. (more awesome team-upness)
And eventually it ends with Frank busted to shit (as he si right now) in prison, again. And weaker than ever, and a depressed wreck. Bullseye figured him out and damaged him worse than anyone, ever. And worse, he is still alive. (which will lead to an awesome rematch where Bullseye maybe pulls out a rustic Jigsaw from the pits of hell, along with Kingpin, the only three bastards to survive Frank). Frank is injected with the infinity serum, it heals him slightly, and slows his aging process.
You get my point, they could literally do 10 Seasons alone with the MAX stuff. With the series literally reaching a culmination point of Frank hitting 60, and his injuries adding up, etc. and him having problems with "flashes" and other things from hsi fight with Barracuda. He is also traumatized from past events. Fury offfers him an infinity formula, he refuses at first. He is working on stopping the Kingpin's rise to power no that all the Gnucci's are gone. Bullseye, Mennonite, Kingpin, Fury
Season 6 could be a bockbuster showing Fury and Frank taking on the man of stone once again. Then Barracuda gets introduced. Show him beat the shit out of Fury (in an awesome back'n'forth fight) and kill off Yorkie who could be worked in, throughout the first 4-5-6 seasons. Of course we need Up is Down, Black is White done before that, so Frank can impregnate O'Brien, and have it be a twist, show Barracuda kill O'Brien and take her kid as she is trying to live a peaceful life. Frank chases cuda
Lets see Frank's 30 year journey. And Bullseye's recent battle with him is a MUST. Same with his ongoing battle and rise of Wilson Fisk as shown in the recent MAX stuff.
Make season 1 half of the born storyline, and have the season end with his family being killed in central park. Season 2 would be his "Year One" and the creation of Jigsaw. Season 3 would be taking on Jigsaw, and showing hints of Kingpin, Season 4 would showcase Ma Gnucci and the Russian, General Kreigoff. Season 5-Man of Stone
More than just like Rambo in NY. We need to see an animated series, starting with the Born storyline. Show Frank as a soldier (with flashbacks of Ennis's wonderful Tyger story of a 10 year old Frank) show the "black voice" and hint that Frank is an avatar of Death. Show Nick Fury recruiting him for black ops stuff (as has been shown, and hinted at again recently). Show him taking onsome superpowered guys, mutants that aren't tied to other stuff. Although DD, Deadpool, and Wolvie would be great
Warzone was way too over the top to the point of laughable i mean rly? Ray Stevenes just caved a mans head in with 1 punch? and impaled him with a chair leg? rly? come on
@DangerasTM The caved head(Nose) was due to that guy snorting so much coke. It deteriorates the cartilage so that is possible and has happened. I still liked Warzone for reasons the other one didn't have and vice versa. Some of that shit was over the top, though.lol
@reddyreddknova i just found a big wtf moment like the make up on jigsaw was rly cartoony the stupid bits with those free runners the acting was bad and the stupid cannibal guy was just weird and unnesicery i just found the movie to be annoying
@DangerasTM Yeah they could have left the 1980s type of villians out of it. I wasn't feeling that either. I still think that guy made a more believable, Punisher character than Tom.
@reddyreddknova i just liked the writeing in the Tom Jane 1 like the whole plan he made to fuckl with saint was really cool in warzone he just shoots alot of people plus tomas jane has a bad ass voice
okay the fact is that the punisher from the 04 film was yeh brutal but not to innocent people and warzone he just completely ebliverated everything in his way seriously if stevenson went against that guy theyd have to completely wipe his guts off the floor, and ray looks more like the actual frank castle i still like the 04 movie and the 89 one but warzone is just so badass
War Zone was nothing more than an ultra-violent B- or C-rated action flick. Thomas Jane's acting made you feel the pain of his character. Ray, eh, not so much.
Your hypocrisy is amusing master,because everything you say about me reflects back on you. If i'm arguing,then so are you since you continually reply. Whine? I've not done any whining..You're the one who attacked me first dumbass:) It's so funny to see you kiddies act hard ass behind a computer screen;)
Ever Stunt they did in The Punisher (04) Was Real no cgi The Punisher War Zone Just look to fake for me i still think that both movies in general are really great action flims but The Punisher (04) Just had a better storyline and better character and the Russian was in it :D.
@Deadlytank3 War zone had jigsaw..who's a reoccuring villian. If it looks fake to you then it'd be amusing to see you read a punisher max comic because those type of kills happen all the time in it. Kingpin squeezed a guy's head so hard his eyeballs popped out in one..
@QuassDebonair i'm talking about the stunts. and i had read the punisher max comics before. i think that both movies are really great and both thomas jane and Ray Stevenson did a good job playing the role as a punisher in different ways.
@EdTheDragonSlayer look at mr. miyagi... did he look like he could whup your ass when you very first saw him? nah, he was an old pissed fart so you thought, thats what i liked about Thomas Jane, he didnt look completely zoned out, but he could fudge you up in a heart beat, and hes just a likeable actor, so my votes up for him. Ray was just in a bad movie, it should have been a REAL sequel as in going with the original story with TJ
Ray, or the REAL punisher, would have blowtorched the bastard fingers out to make him talk, and later make him eat his own well-done little black heart
@EdTheDragonSlayer Remeber what he wanted him for? Why would he actually do that if he was planning on using him! If he did all that he would be an idiot! Thats why Rays movie sucked vigorously and TJs was better and it wasnt a stupid disgusting blood bath that was mockable to the pulp. TJ is a smarter punisher and doesnt have to be a complete show off like Ray, thats why hes better!
the thing is, punisher wouldnt usually interrogate people with an ice cream, would he? :P
and ray didnt show off. Jane do all kind of weird ritual things(money and burning cars) and fancy gunplay. Its really cool and definitive, i dont have anything with that.
But i think that the punisher's trademark has always been leaving behind scores of bodies, and ray did a good job at that. Ray was direct, efficient and ruthless, while showing a real emotional issue
@EdTheDragonSlayer It was a good scene haha It kinda freaked me out a bit haha The Thomas Jane Punisher was a start, Rays seemed like it had already been goin on for years and years which it couldnt have taken 5-or 6 to become that ticked off ya know plus a little bit seperate stories and characters, but he just didnt have the acting appeal or anything, he didnt feel like a badass dark hero for some reason, he just seemed silly, then again, he was in a bad movie in the first place lol
I am just wondering, does anyone else but me think that Thomas Jane would be great at playing Ghost Rider and Batman? No mean comments please I am just wondering about you guys' opinion because I think he would be AWESOME in those two movies
I don't have anything against ray, thomas Jane was absolutely the shit, I felt violated when I saw he was replaced on warzone, uridine even get through warzone, they overrate frank castle and make him a Rambo like run n gun killer, the 04 version had character, style, and cleverness, great peice, and props to Thomas Jane. Played his role well
@McLovin36k Frank is like rambo in punisher max..He sat in a tree and shot down on a mafia barbeque with a rocket launcher one issue..Jane's punisher focused mostly on Frank's psychological aspect whereas Stevenson's on his brutality
Oh yeah that's another thing..they changed how frank's family died in Jane's. Frank's family dies in a crossfire between 2 mafias or whatever while they were at a picnic..not some big family gathering
Tell that the Thomas Jane version was not corney? I mean that shit with the burning skull was just horrible. Oh and Frank would never take a fire hydrate around and play scams on his enemey. The only time you would see Frank with a fire hydrant is when it smashing it on some poor dopes head. Trivolta, the whole sunny Florida thing so this moron could fly planes!!!! big fucking clue right there. They screwed over orgin so why not make Death Sentence instead. Thomas Jane version was pure ASS!!!
I've seen a lot of comments that trash Warzone to boost the 2004 film and I have to say that... The first Punisher film seemed a lot like the old 80s - 90s comics where the story was great and the action wasn't overdone. Warzone feels more like Marvel Knights or MAX Punisher with the over-the-top gore and explosions. That's my two cents.
The Punisher from '04 had more dept to it. War Zone was more like a pure action flick. A plus for me about War Zone, Static-X provided a song for the soundtrack (Lunatic). I'm torn about which Punisher movie I favor more.
It´s hilarious to see you people argue about these two pieces of shit movies.The Jane movie was absolute crap,but Warzone?Wow,top 10 worst movies I´ve seen in my life.So bad it´s good actually,I´ve seen it twice,even downloaded that horrendous shit just to laugh my ass off,it´s that bad.Which is good.So movie vote goes for Shitzone.And as for the Punisher himself,definetely Ray.Guy looked badass and fucked up dark.
Tom Jane's movie is NOT the first Punisher movie like it's fanboys like to believe. It's second to Dolph Lundgren's movie released in 1989. Just shows how much they know. It's understandable they prefer the one that is the least true to the source material. Tampa? Really? War Zone may not be a good movie but atleast it got a Frank Castle in it. Unfortunately people are too bussy staring at Jane "The poster boy" to be able to open up a Punisher comic these days.
both are good movies...the second one is better for those whole like bloodshed...i perfer the first movie because they dont over do it with he killing
the first was good the second had some good deaths but the first had the song witch put it over the top if you ask me also Thomas is a hell of allot more hardcore i mean how many ppl out there have warzone? now put that up against the ppl who have the thomas jane punisher copy and you got your answer besides the second one was a little played out if you ask me i saw it and it was a let down in my book i waited till it went to dvd to see it and still felt like i got ripped off marvel owes me!!!
Thomas Jane made the fist punisher a great marvel movie.This new guy looks like he did a horrible job at Punisher war zone.I felt with The first one that it was like Iron man 2 where they want you to be a part of marvel.With punisher war zone it does not have the same feeling
TOM JANE MADE the punisher movies what they were the 04 release fuckin killed war zone and the 89 release.for many reason
1. better storyline
2. better actors(not disrespect to ray)
3. better show of the PUNISHER-he was lonely he tried to kill his self and he talked like true he didnt look the same but he looked awesome as punisher.
@MrWrestlinglord People who hate on warzone obviously never read the comics,they just watch the movies then try to act like they know something about the character. Jane's didn't have a better storyline..Warzone just didn't waste its time forming a plot because most of the time in a punisher comic there isn't much of one..just frank killing. Warzone is more comically accurate to the present frank than jane's is. Lonely? Frank seemed like a damn emo in Jane's version
@MrWrestlinglord It's a comic book movie..it's not suppose to be real. They spent more time with Frank moaning and complaining instead of him going into action in jane's. War zone stuck to what frank does nowadays. If people hate on a movie for not being realistic then i cant wait to see what gets said when the deadpool movie comes out
@QuassDebonair the 2004 punisher film was much better than warzone, even if warzone was more accurate to the comics (which i really couldn't care less about) the 2004 one was overral a better movie.
@MasterKickArse Comics have gore so nice try. You've obviously never seen DC's blackest night. Sure it's a better movie for those who like a whiney emo punisher.
@QuassDebonair his whole family was murdered in front of him... im guessing if that happened to you, you'll skip down the road acting all jolly singing "dont worry be happy"
@MasterKickArse Go read the current punisher max kiddo. It goes deeper into the murder of his family and pushes it as frank's excuse for wanting to be the punisher. So yes..a story that shows more on how he's a sociopath would be more accurate than him sitting around moaning:)
@QuassDebonair are you forgetting that i really couldn't get a shit about any of the poxy comic books, the comic books has no effect on me about liking any film. now... go masturbate over one of your MARVEL knight punisher comics
@MasterKickArse Ahh there's the problem..a teenager. That would explain the ignorance,and after your recent post..the immaturity. Funny I don't recall asking what you do or don't like kid. I don't critisize you for liking the jonas brothers either but hey! If you want to be a dumbass,all power to you. Sure..me and others will enjoy the punisher max comics...especially since they're now going into detail of how he truly became the punisher:)
@QuassDebonair that comment you just made is redundant, It's like me saying "you must come from Mars" when you finish fantasying over Stan Lee how about you do something else with your life other than read comics.
@MasterKickArse So the child got proven wrong and has now resorted to nothing more than attempts at insults. Typical teenage behavior. Do something else with my life..yeah guess college and a job isn't enough right? Get back to me when you're not living off mommy and daddy kiddo.
@MasterKickArse Another typical teenager response. It becomes predictable. I'm pathetic yet you're the one who has lost the argument and is now resorting to insults because you can't come up with anything intelligent to say..Great logic there junior
Stevenson was relentless , looked the part , rugged and cold ! Jane sounded the part and acted out the pain the punisher felt better , this is mostly to do with the movie's being set in different stages of Franks life tho i think ! both movies are awesome !
5teveHxC 2 weeks ago
Thomas jane all the way , he has the body the accent and the look.
Band1t12345 3 weeks ago
Ray Stevenson played better. Tom Jane was not the Punisher; he was blackmailing and setting up his enemies. The real Punisher shoots first and never asks questions.
MISANTHROPY647 3 weeks ago
Ray Stevenson all the way because he was what the Punisher is - a vengence machine. I do love me some Thomas Jane, too but for what The Punisher represents, Stevenson all the way. And someone said he was out of shape? Holy shit! I have met the man. 6' 4" and built like a brick shit-house. He looks intimidating as hell.
MsCarp73 1 month ago
Thomas Jane is by FAR, the better of the two. Stevenson was depicted as more superhuman, than a normal guy, Jane was a man, with a vengeance, not superhuman, but man.
Josker48 1 month ago
If anybody wants my opinion I believe that Stevenson is good as the MAX punisher, but Jane is better as the mainstream punisher.
narutorasbat 1 month ago
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azZouBer21 1 month ago
Ray Stevenson seems like a more darker Punisher to me, I really wasn't too thrilled that they changed Punisher's' rather than that Jane should have been allowed more movies for himself to develop as the actor and his character to develop. Both were good, but it took a very long time for me to even watch War Zone, just because I hate when they cast new people. In my opinion they should have allowed Jane to further develop and he wasn't the original Punisher either but he was my favorite
EternalDarkness316 1 month ago
Hands down Thomas Jane. He gives the punishers character more emotion. Ray Stevenson plays a generic action hero going around killing bad guys... By the way, most people forget about Dolph Lundgren. He played the punisher in 1989.
EmptyMentality 1 month ago
I just saw both movies back to back. it is without contest Ray Stevenson truley is the punisher in respect to Thomas Jane he is a really cool actor .. but the cold hard fact is hes is just not the punisher ..Punisher war zone KILLED the other punisher movie ten fold more guts more violence more punishment The other punisher movie with Tom was just a dissapointment .... it fell flat and it did not meet punishing standards .. hey this is just my opinion okay
MesGodz 2 months ago
Thomas Jane is good... but Ray Stevenson IS THE PUNISHER!
predtralo 2 months ago
@predtralo brosky shut up the new one was good but not dramatic all fight not talk
bunnychaser2000 2 months ago
@bunnychaser2000 Real punisher not talk, punisher KILLS and PUNISHES, Ray Stevenson is the best
predtralo 2 months ago
tomas jane win 100% like this PUNISHER
CrabeVoOV 2 months ago
Ray Stevenson's Movie showed the real Origin of The Punisher
MarcelAvenger 2 months ago
I liked Ray Stevenson's movie better, but altogether Thomas Jane was better.
TheSilentOne50 2 months ago
The Punisher's real name is Thomas Jane not Frank Castle
MrPascariu1982 2 months ago
Ray Stevenson was more like of a killing machine.. a.k.a. a fucking robot. no emotions, none. Punisher is still human, ya'll know that. So.. Tom Jane all the way!!! He's more on lines, emotions.. flashbacks and speech, which makes a GOOD movie and makes him more of a human, rather than shoot here, there, every-fucking-where.. which T-800s do.. boring..then for the worst part..doesn't get shot?.. srsly?
TheSimguy007 2 months ago
I understand why people like the other guy from War Zone more then Thomas Jane from the Punisher, but I hated that movie, because their weapons for War Zone look like a childs play thing, that movie was pretty much a piece of crap, srry... I honestly thought the story in the Trailer could work, but no they butchered it... The 2004 movie was so, so much better...
Even the 1984 Punisher was way better then War Zone, srry...
KenyoMurabu 2 months ago
la primera parte es brutal!!!! la segunda no tanto pero tiene sus pedazos vacanos
spectralgrinder666 2 months ago
Punisher(Thomas Jane) Cool!!!
Punisher8BLACK 2 months ago
i like both
WrestlingFan1013 2 months ago
Tom Jane is better as Frank Castle, the family man, Ray Stevenson is better as Punisher, the cold blood anti-hero vigilante.
MingTongPang54 3 months ago 5
At first I had high hopes for the Ray Stevenson movie, but it was a dud for me. Just mindless repetitious killing, like a bad videogame. He goes in this room, shoots baddies, goes to the next room, shoots baddies. Rinse and repeat. Boring.
GooseHinson 3 months ago
You forgot about Dolph Lundgren. He was the original PUNISHER in film.
SodatSobat 3 months ago
@SodatSobat Dolph really tried too hard.
TheSilentOne50 2 months ago
Ray Stevenson has much better mug for the Punisher. Just look at the comics. I liked both films, but I couldn't take Jane's part seriously... I mean look at him, he looks like someone who's ready to pull out a guitar and sing in a Baywatch movie. Ray has a more brutal face. Fact.
tgh00ker 3 months ago
@tgh00ker Dolf Lungren was better. Go look it up.
archangel8323 3 months ago
@archangel8323 It's funny... cause... I've just started watching it.
tgh00ker 3 months ago
@tgh00ker lol nice.. I think he has a good look, but I love the style Ray brings to it. I like Thomas Jane because his characters can take a beating. Give'em Hell Malone was a good movie (Thomas Jane).
archangel8323 3 months ago
O.o yo aria lo mismo si le isieran eso ami family :@ no perdonaria a ninguno de ellos
gelhi0101 3 months ago
Thomas Jane wins easily. Ray Stevenson is freaking fat and out of shape, Thomas Jane is 190lbs of solid muscle, Tom would kick his ass.
Ninety9Soulz 3 months ago
Tom Jane just wants his kids back!
LJK90 3 months ago
The movie with Ray Stevenson is more similar to comics, it's splatter. The movie with Jane is soft, like a normal action movies for all people.
Lordenry100 3 months ago 3
@Lordenry100 Actualy....While Jane is softer then Ray's movie ist Janes that is more like the comics (I've only REALLY read the Max version wich is my favourite)
3ZPaNH0L 3 months ago
Ray is the fucking punisher , yeh it coulda been more realistic but no he looked the part he acted the part he is the part, he is Frank Castle
NachoMachoLibre 3 months ago 2
Thomas Jane, he actually added humanity and emotion to the role.
War Zone was awful, just a gory fan boy flick, action for the sake of action.
Thomas Jane's version actually had a plot and character development.
IndianaJoel93 3 months ago
Thomas Jane is the best, besides being more sexy.
Tesch013 4 months ago
Tom Jane is the Punisher
Ninety9Soulz 4 months ago 3
punisher war zone is BRUTAL :X
adycarabus 4 months ago
@adycarabus Warzone is nonstop breakage.. My vote is one warzone as well
ThePunisherFan83 4 months ago in playlist ThePunisherFan83's Favorited Videos
thomas jane wins, but warzone blew some serious shit up
spartanzack300 4 months ago
They both kick ass best performance. I have to give it up for warzone, it has the most gorish brutality scenes.
ThePunisherFan83 4 months ago
Thomas Jane perfect for the Punisher on many levels including emotion
Ray Stevenson was perfect on the Merciless killing of bad guys in more brutal methods I say that they both were good
Crazyphil2008 4 months ago
got to be Ray for me.....
kevcification 4 months ago 2
What about Dolph Lundgren in the 1989 film The Punisher? ;) Nah, I gotta go with Ray Stevenson because he look closest to the Comic Book Punisher. But Thomas Jane wasn't a bad choice at all, and I liked his film (2004) better then the new one (2008).
Kaffebonden00 4 months ago
Ray Your Face Like Real Frank Castle,,,
but Jane's Voice is better than Ray
jimmysullivan911 4 months ago
i gotta go wit ray. i just saw war zone and ray is the winner
theXtreme1man 5 months ago
Thomas Jane is the one and real Punisher!!!! :)
Crysis1121 5 months ago
si vis pacum parabellm godamn right
SKDETH 5 months ago
Ray looks the part, Tam jane IS THE PART
TheDarkVideos 5 months ago 18
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usernameDOGS 5 months ago
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gelhi0101 5 months ago
Thomas Jane is much much better....he is an epic choice for the punisher
azZouBer21 5 months ago 30
@azZouBer21 U're crazy, huh? Never watched the real one, for shure..
Wtf is happening with ppl nowadays?
KornFcknOwns 1 month ago
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azZouBer21 1 month ago
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@KornFcknOwns In fact I have watched them all dear friend !!! since the punisher of 1989 frank castle then was Dolph Lundgren, and i also played the punisher as a video game & i read some comic books as well !!! i really loved how Ray Stevenson kill and execute the bad people but Thomas Jane has perfectly incarnated the role of Frank Castle so emotionally and deeply so much better then Rey.. that's my opinion we can discuss it but you have to respect it whether you liked it or not.
azZouBer21 1 month ago
@azZouBer21 yehhh is very better
ramzasful 1 month ago
Tom Jane is was the best actor to ever play a comic book hero.
booster330 5 months ago 2
Thomas Jane is a million times better!! He just looks like a hard ass pissed off drunk! and he's a better actor and the first was better because marvel should never do shoot em ups!
dunnieldan 5 months ago
I enjoyed them both, the only problem when watching the first one is I already knew how certain scenes would end because of having read the comics they were based on. I liked that in the first one Frank tricked Saint into killing people he was close to. I loved the ultra violence of the second one.
LightningChimp 5 months ago
Ray Stevenson looks like he could floor Thomas Jane with one punch. I enjoyed Punisher War Zone alot more while I thought some of the writing was more clever in the first one. All in all, Ray Stevenson.
VActorDreamer 5 months ago
ray all the wayy he was REALLY GOOD!
Cherise338 6 months ago
I Feel like the first one was a better movie story wise, and the second was more faced on action. Ray Stevenson is better at the fire fights where as Thomas Jane was better at the acting parts. Both were good, in my opinion i like Thomas Jane better.
zomfgpaNic 6 months ago
@zomfgpaNic favor Ray more but Thomas Jane had some badass one liners deliveries as the Punisher
KingChile94 6 months ago
@zomfgpaNic The punisher Does what he can to protect the innocent. He Punishes the Wicked By death. Thomas Jane Did that perfectly. Ray just did Shoot'em up Punisher style. Jane Did an amazing Take on The Punishers Welcome back, Frank.
keepdeathonhold 6 months ago
@keepdeathonhold Ok? thats your opinion and I have my own :P
zomfgpaNic 6 months ago
@keepdeathonhold fair enough
keepdeathonhold 6 months ago
I like em both
ThePunisherFan83 6 months ago
warzone seemed like a sequel but it wasnt
nromando 6 months ago
never watched the Lundgren version. I do like bother Punisher and warzone. Honestly could care less which is better. The only thing that pisses me off in warzone is they kill off Jigsaw. WTF???
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Damn why do they keep doing this? FUCK HOLLYWOOD!!!! nah just kidding just the same WHAT THE HELL!!!!!
Crippler1228 6 months ago
I liked all of the punishers. But out of all of them Warzone was truest to the comic. Dolfs was good for an opener to the series of vigilanty style movies wich gave way to such titles as Boondock Saints , and Janes was a pretty good origin story. Now if the people knew all of these Punisher movies, I think they would make better choices instead of "thomas jane iz da best evar lul" that kind of bullshit gets on my nerves to no end
kaldicuct 6 months ago
@kaldicuct War Zone was"true" only to the MAX Punisher Line which is a standalone series that isn't at all Connected or Cannon with the overall Punisher continuity. Ray Stevenson portrayed the Max Punisher Line while Jane was patterned off of Jim Lees more classic Punisher.
thebluemaggot 5 months ago
@thebluemaggot Not what i was reffering to but nice tidbit. I was commenting on the brutality of it all. I dont remember him doing many mindfucks. I remember Frank shoving a shotgun down your throat and pulling the trigger. while having your ass pointed at someone else. Canon doesnt matter when its a movie compared to the comic, in V they didnt show Evey to be a hooker, BUT THAT WAS CANON. I know they wont go directly from comic to movie, unless its something like 300 or hills have eyes.
kaldicuct 5 months ago
thomas jane, fuck war zone
MrBluewatson 6 months ago
i really like both. if i want to watch sum kickass death scenes for an hour and a half then ill watch war zone. but if i want an overall better movie, ill go with thomas janes version. dolph lundgren's version was good too.
dkbadass 6 months ago
Ray Stevenson is the best Punisher
1985aw1 6 months ago
Thomas jane for sure
raoulhery 6 months ago
Dolph Lundgren would punish both!!
RadioactiveGoose 6 months ago
I can't really say anything about Ray Stevenson because I haven't seen that film but he looks good as him too, but I really like Thomas Jane and his voice especially in the Punisher game, I've got really nice(some sick =P) memories with that game.
Johny40Se7en 6 months ago
janes production and budget + stevensons R rating and true(more loyal) storyline FTW
shogunboxe 6 months ago
What's that song
rickyrackk 6 months ago
I personally love all three punisher movies the 04 one because of the story and i loved watching frank kill those dickheads punisher warzone because of the over the top gore crazy kills and action and the first one because the story and action.
TheRise24 6 months ago
My vote goes to Ray Stevenson. More credible as the Punisher.
Kelticgirl1 6 months ago
After I saw the Punisher with Thomas Jane I hit the gym for the next 6 months so I can look like him...I still wanna look like him!
leopoldvs 6 months ago
Ray had the looks but no feel to it. Thomas Jane had the feel and the motivation, makes you wanna be the punisher for a certain reason.
elburro12345 6 months ago 2
Ramallah fucking kicks ass
XHandyXMannyX 6 months ago
Both movies were good but ray Steven is the better punisher more action and looks like him
m16bannan 6 months ago
Thomas Jane his voice give me the chill
amed899 6 months ago
stevenson looks like the comic carachter, but the movie with thomas jane makes u want to be a punisher
KovenantMedia 7 months ago
Stevenson was the better Punisher, actual true to character, more bloodier and actually looks like him
akumatekkusu666 7 months ago
@akumatekkusu666 the whole "looks like him" argument is easily countered by taking art from Jim Lees Punisher and Comparing it to Thomas Jane. Jan is a dead Ringer for Jim Lee's more classic punisher.
thebluemaggot 5 months ago
And things get really heated. Bullseye is banging this chic (well say Silver Sable for now, she's probably usable here, although the tweaks to her character could piss off fans, but this is MAX Animation here!), who, like Bullseye is sadisitic beyond words. Fury is injured and on the run, SHIELD is facing ruin, and he is searching for Frank, who is trying to take out Kingpin for good, and wants no part of any of this beyond Fisk dead. Let the good times roll!
hoboboxerjoe 7 months ago
This could all lead to an amazing animated event where Nick Fury gets a hit put on him by Bullseye, whos rep is somewhat sullied by letting Frank live. So he figures he'll work things out to get 'em both. Kingpin, now at the top of his game and gaming up for a Governor of NY run, needs all ends tied up, and fast. He brings in a woman who is essentialy Black Widow-meets-Elektra, someone who knows Fury and SHIELD very well. And has a merc army of her own. Bullseye eventually strikes a deal withher
hoboboxerjoe 7 months ago
I could imagine how awesome it'd be right now: Fury does it and they have a fight and a huge dialoge. Fury is the only living friend of Frank and the only person who is basically "off limits" from being killed, he is just as skilled as Frank and is close to immortal as humans can get, and now Frank is too. Finally Frank whispers "Thank you" to fury, as Fury sets things up for Frank's escape. Saying Frank owes him big down the road. (more awesome team-upness)
hoboboxerjoe 7 months ago
And eventually it ends with Frank busted to shit (as he si right now) in prison, again. And weaker than ever, and a depressed wreck. Bullseye figured him out and damaged him worse than anyone, ever. And worse, he is still alive. (which will lead to an awesome rematch where Bullseye maybe pulls out a rustic Jigsaw from the pits of hell, along with Kingpin, the only three bastards to survive Frank). Frank is injected with the infinity serum, it heals him slightly, and slows his aging process.
hoboboxerjoe 7 months ago
You get my point, they could literally do 10 Seasons alone with the MAX stuff. With the series literally reaching a culmination point of Frank hitting 60, and his injuries adding up, etc. and him having problems with "flashes" and other things from hsi fight with Barracuda. He is also traumatized from past events. Fury offfers him an infinity formula, he refuses at first. He is working on stopping the Kingpin's rise to power no that all the Gnucci's are gone. Bullseye, Mennonite, Kingpin, Fury
hoboboxerjoe 7 months ago
Season 6 could be a bockbuster showing Fury and Frank taking on the man of stone once again. Then Barracuda gets introduced. Show him beat the shit out of Fury (in an awesome back'n'forth fight) and kill off Yorkie who could be worked in, throughout the first 4-5-6 seasons. Of course we need Up is Down, Black is White done before that, so Frank can impregnate O'Brien, and have it be a twist, show Barracuda kill O'Brien and take her kid as she is trying to live a peaceful life. Frank chases cuda
hoboboxerjoe 7 months ago
Lets see Frank's 30 year journey. And Bullseye's recent battle with him is a MUST. Same with his ongoing battle and rise of Wilson Fisk as shown in the recent MAX stuff.
Make season 1 half of the born storyline, and have the season end with his family being killed in central park. Season 2 would be his "Year One" and the creation of Jigsaw. Season 3 would be taking on Jigsaw, and showing hints of Kingpin, Season 4 would showcase Ma Gnucci and the Russian, General Kreigoff. Season 5-Man of Stone
hoboboxerjoe 7 months ago
More than just like Rambo in NY. We need to see an animated series, starting with the Born storyline. Show Frank as a soldier (with flashbacks of Ennis's wonderful Tyger story of a 10 year old Frank) show the "black voice" and hint that Frank is an avatar of Death. Show Nick Fury recruiting him for black ops stuff (as has been shown, and hinted at again recently). Show him taking onsome superpowered guys, mutants that aren't tied to other stuff. Although DD, Deadpool, and Wolvie would be great
hoboboxerjoe 7 months ago
Warzone was way too over the top to the point of laughable i mean rly? Ray Stevenes just caved a mans head in with 1 punch? and impaled him with a chair leg? rly? come on
DangerasTM 7 months ago
@DangerasTM The caved head(Nose) was due to that guy snorting so much coke. It deteriorates the cartilage so that is possible and has happened. I still liked Warzone for reasons the other one didn't have and vice versa. Some of that shit was over the top, though.lol
reddyreddknova 6 months ago
@reddyreddknova i just found a big wtf moment like the make up on jigsaw was rly cartoony the stupid bits with those free runners the acting was bad and the stupid cannibal guy was just weird and unnesicery i just found the movie to be annoying
DangerasTM 6 months ago
@DangerasTM Yeah they could have left the 1980s type of villians out of it. I wasn't feeling that either. I still think that guy made a more believable, Punisher character than Tom.
reddyreddknova 6 months ago
@reddyreddknova i just liked the writeing in the Tom Jane 1 like the whole plan he made to fuckl with saint was really cool in warzone he just shoots alot of people plus tomas jane has a bad ass voice
DangerasTM 6 months ago
04 he blackmailed the bad guys that's not the punisher read the marvel max punisher war zone was it
PunkymickBlah 7 months ago
okay the fact is that the punisher from the 04 film was yeh brutal but not to innocent people and warzone he just completely ebliverated everything in his way seriously if stevenson went against that guy theyd have to completely wipe his guts off the floor, and ray looks more like the actual frank castle i still like the 04 movie and the 89 one but warzone is just so badass
NachoMachoLibre 7 months ago
War Zone was nothing more than an ultra-violent B- or C-rated action flick. Thomas Jane's acting made you feel the pain of his character. Ray, eh, not so much.
wccrispy 7 months ago
name of the song
gijoemasters 7 months ago
Your hypocrisy is amusing master,because everything you say about me reflects back on you. If i'm arguing,then so are you since you continually reply. Whine? I've not done any whining..You're the one who attacked me first dumbass:) It's so funny to see you kiddies act hard ass behind a computer screen;)
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
Ever Stunt they did in The Punisher (04) Was Real no cgi The Punisher War Zone Just look to fake for me i still think that both movies in general are really great action flims but The Punisher (04) Just had a better storyline and better character and the Russian was in it :D.
Deadlytank3 7 months ago
@Deadlytank3 War zone had jigsaw..who's a reoccuring villian. If it looks fake to you then it'd be amusing to see you read a punisher max comic because those type of kills happen all the time in it. Kingpin squeezed a guy's head so hard his eyeballs popped out in one..
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
@QuassDebonair i'm talking about the stunts. and i had read the punisher max comics before. i think that both movies are really great and both thomas jane and Ray Stevenson did a good job playing the role as a punisher in different ways.
Deadlytank3 7 months ago
imo, ray stevenson portraits really well a merciless vigilante with a permanent chip on his shoulder and deep emotional problems. That's punisher
thomas jane was good as a newbie punisher, but he's much less intimidating than ray
ray looks like the kind of guy who would kill you without a word. thomas jane didnt deliver that
EdTheDragonSlayer 7 months ago
@EdTheDragonSlayer look at mr. miyagi... did he look like he could whup your ass when you very first saw him? nah, he was an old pissed fart so you thought, thats what i liked about Thomas Jane, he didnt look completely zoned out, but he could fudge you up in a heart beat, and hes just a likeable actor, so my votes up for him. Ray was just in a bad movie, it should have been a REAL sequel as in going with the original story with TJ
clix411 7 months ago
@clix411
remember the ice cream scene?
Ray, or the REAL punisher, would have blowtorched the bastard fingers out to make him talk, and later make him eat his own well-done little black heart
EdTheDragonSlayer 7 months ago
@EdTheDragonSlayer Remeber what he wanted him for? Why would he actually do that if he was planning on using him! If he did all that he would be an idiot! Thats why Rays movie sucked vigorously and TJs was better and it wasnt a stupid disgusting blood bath that was mockable to the pulp. TJ is a smarter punisher and doesnt have to be a complete show off like Ray, thats why hes better!
clix411 7 months ago
@clix411
the thing is, punisher wouldnt usually interrogate people with an ice cream, would he? :P
and ray didnt show off. Jane do all kind of weird ritual things(money and burning cars) and fancy gunplay. Its really cool and definitive, i dont have anything with that.
But i think that the punisher's trademark has always been leaving behind scores of bodies, and ray did a good job at that. Ray was direct, efficient and ruthless, while showing a real emotional issue
EdTheDragonSlayer 7 months ago
@EdTheDragonSlayer It was a good scene haha It kinda freaked me out a bit haha The Thomas Jane Punisher was a start, Rays seemed like it had already been goin on for years and years which it couldnt have taken 5-or 6 to become that ticked off ya know plus a little bit seperate stories and characters, but he just didnt have the acting appeal or anything, he didnt feel like a badass dark hero for some reason, he just seemed silly, then again, he was in a bad movie in the first place lol
clix411 7 months ago
Thomas Jane reminds me of Christopher Lambert
kinmanyuen 7 months ago
I am just wondering, does anyone else but me think that Thomas Jane would be great at playing Ghost Rider and Batman? No mean comments please I am just wondering about you guys' opinion because I think he would be AWESOME in those two movies
fredkrueger21345 7 months ago
@fredkrueger21345 No he wouldn't because he looks nothing like Johnny Blaze
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
@QuassDebonair well now that i think of it ur right lol but he still could do batmans voice atleast on a cartoon or sumthin
fredkrueger21345 7 months ago
@fredkrueger21345 hed have to wait till kevin conroy stops doing it because hes the perfect batman voice:P
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
name of the song???
DavidWillco 7 months ago
@DavidWillco in time by mark collie
Deadlytank3 7 months ago
@Deadlytank3 Well, I meant the second song ... but thanks!
DavidWillco 7 months ago
Stupid spell check ( I didn't even get through warzone) lol WTF is uridine???? :s
McLovin36k 7 months ago
I don't have anything against ray, thomas Jane was absolutely the shit, I felt violated when I saw he was replaced on warzone, uridine even get through warzone, they overrate frank castle and make him a Rambo like run n gun killer, the 04 version had character, style, and cleverness, great peice, and props to Thomas Jane. Played his role well
McLovin36k 7 months ago
@McLovin36k Frank is like rambo in punisher max..He sat in a tree and shot down on a mafia barbeque with a rocket launcher one issue..Jane's punisher focused mostly on Frank's psychological aspect whereas Stevenson's on his brutality
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
Stevenson >>> Jane
SuperZombie1991 7 months ago
kurva jó!!!:D:D:D:D
Black18469 7 months ago
Oh yeah that's another thing..they changed how frank's family died in Jane's. Frank's family dies in a crossfire between 2 mafias or whatever while they were at a picnic..not some big family gathering
QuassDebonair 8 months ago
Tell that the Thomas Jane version was not corney? I mean that shit with the burning skull was just horrible. Oh and Frank would never take a fire hydrate around and play scams on his enemey. The only time you would see Frank with a fire hydrant is when it smashing it on some poor dopes head. Trivolta, the whole sunny Florida thing so this moron could fly planes!!!! big fucking clue right there. They screwed over orgin so why not make Death Sentence instead. Thomas Jane version was pure ASS!!!
sean311973 8 months ago
We need a movie with Franken-Castle (the UNdead Punisher)
dyllock105 8 months ago
The thomas jane vs The Russian fight was the best but the dark humour in both is hilarious
dyllock105 8 months ago
I've seen a lot of comments that trash Warzone to boost the 2004 film and I have to say that... The first Punisher film seemed a lot like the old 80s - 90s comics where the story was great and the action wasn't overdone. Warzone feels more like Marvel Knights or MAX Punisher with the over-the-top gore and explosions. That's my two cents.
HaveYouSeenAndy 8 months ago
1st 1 =awesome
2nd= shit
metalheadmetallica92 8 months ago
they were both pretty terrible
badmudda 8 months ago
Dolph Lundgren would own them both.
EricLynchSucks 8 months ago
what is the song
gijoemasters 8 months ago
The Punisher from '04 had more dept to it. War Zone was more like a pure action flick. A plus for me about War Zone, Static-X provided a song for the soundtrack (Lunatic). I'm torn about which Punisher movie I favor more.
MrCaCaaaaaaaaa 8 months ago
war zone was just plain silly :(
ScarletSnake 8 months ago
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jane170 9 months ago
How about making a lady Punisher ;)
jane170 9 months ago
It´s hilarious to see you people argue about these two pieces of shit movies.The Jane movie was absolute crap,but Warzone?Wow,top 10 worst movies I´ve seen in my life.So bad it´s good actually,I´ve seen it twice,even downloaded that horrendous shit just to laugh my ass off,it´s that bad.Which is good.So movie vote goes for Shitzone.And as for the Punisher himself,definetely Ray.Guy looked badass and fucked up dark.
GhostAdvocate13 9 months ago
Who's better ... wow, a real puzzler :/
codergames 9 months ago
Tom Jane's movie is NOT the first Punisher movie like it's fanboys like to believe. It's second to Dolph Lundgren's movie released in 1989. Just shows how much they know. It's understandable they prefer the one that is the least true to the source material. Tampa? Really? War Zone may not be a good movie but atleast it got a Frank Castle in it. Unfortunately people are too bussy staring at Jane "The poster boy" to be able to open up a Punisher comic these days.
simpledude58 9 months ago 3
I believe Thomas is better than Ray
jane170 9 months ago 2
ray stevenson. its a bonus he can actualy act!
DefilerhXc 9 months ago
Thomas Jane all the way
CardiacProductions 9 months ago 10
both are good movies...the second one is better for those whole like bloodshed...i perfer the first movie because they dont over do it with he killing
rockinrolla125 9 months ago
wat song was that
thomas141500 9 months ago
the first was good the second had some good deaths but the first had the song witch put it over the top if you ask me also Thomas is a hell of allot more hardcore i mean how many ppl out there have warzone? now put that up against the ppl who have the thomas jane punisher copy and you got your answer besides the second one was a little played out if you ask me i saw it and it was a let down in my book i waited till it went to dvd to see it and still felt like i got ripped off marvel owes me!!!
jaygo1870 9 months ago
For my money its Ray all the way.
chicago618 9 months ago
both awesome movies
CrAzYiLLuZzion 9 months ago
I like all 3 of them but it is a tie between Thomas and Ray
gijoemasters 9 months ago
Thomas Jane made the fist punisher a great marvel movie.This new guy looks like he did a horrible job at Punisher war zone.I felt with The first one that it was like Iron man 2 where they want you to be a part of marvel.With punisher war zone it does not have the same feeling
moviedude590 9 months ago
TOM JANE MADE the punisher movies what they were the 04 release fuckin killed war zone and the 89 release.for many reason
1. better storyline
2. better actors(not disrespect to ray)
3. better show of the PUNISHER-he was lonely he tried to kill his self and he talked like true he didnt look the same but he looked awesome as punisher.
4. punisher 2004 makes u feel the story
thumbs up if u agree
MrWrestlinglord 9 months ago 40
@MrWrestlinglord i agree, i prefer the tom jane's movie, but, the real perfil of punisher's comic, is absolutly Ray.
elfanel 8 months ago
@MrWrestlinglord People who hate on warzone obviously never read the comics,they just watch the movies then try to act like they know something about the character. Jane's didn't have a better storyline..Warzone just didn't waste its time forming a plot because most of the time in a punisher comic there isn't much of one..just frank killing. Warzone is more comically accurate to the present frank than jane's is. Lonely? Frank seemed like a damn emo in Jane's version
QuassDebonair 8 months ago
@QuassDebonair i have them ALL yeah warzone is ok but 04 makes things more REAL
MrWrestlinglord 8 months ago
@MrWrestlinglord It's a comic book movie..it's not suppose to be real. They spent more time with Frank moaning and complaining instead of him going into action in jane's. War zone stuck to what frank does nowadays. If people hate on a movie for not being realistic then i cant wait to see what gets said when the deadpool movie comes out
QuassDebonair 8 months ago
@QuassDebonair the 2004 punisher film was much better than warzone, even if warzone was more accurate to the comics (which i really couldn't care less about) the 2004 one was overral a better movie.
MasterKickArse 7 months ago
@MasterKickArse Comics have gore so nice try. You've obviously never seen DC's blackest night. Sure it's a better movie for those who like a whiney emo punisher.
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
@QuassDebonair his whole family was murdered in front of him... im guessing if that happened to you, you'll skip down the road acting all jolly singing "dont worry be happy"
MasterKickArse 7 months ago
@MasterKickArse Go read the current punisher max kiddo. It goes deeper into the murder of his family and pushes it as frank's excuse for wanting to be the punisher. So yes..a story that shows more on how he's a sociopath would be more accurate than him sitting around moaning:)
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
@QuassDebonair are you forgetting that i really couldn't get a shit about any of the poxy comic books, the comic books has no effect on me about liking any film. now... go masturbate over one of your MARVEL knight punisher comics
MasterKickArse 7 months ago
@MasterKickArse Ahh there's the problem..a teenager. That would explain the ignorance,and after your recent post..the immaturity. Funny I don't recall asking what you do or don't like kid. I don't critisize you for liking the jonas brothers either but hey! If you want to be a dumbass,all power to you. Sure..me and others will enjoy the punisher max comics...especially since they're now going into detail of how he truly became the punisher:)
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
@QuassDebonair that comment you just made is redundant, It's like me saying "you must come from Mars" when you finish fantasying over Stan Lee how about you do something else with your life other than read comics.
MasterKickArse 7 months ago
@MasterKickArse So the child got proven wrong and has now resorted to nothing more than attempts at insults. Typical teenage behavior. Do something else with my life..yeah guess college and a job isn't enough right? Get back to me when you're not living off mommy and daddy kiddo.
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
@QuassDebonair you're pathetic face it.
MasterKickArse 7 months ago
@MasterKickArse Another typical teenager response. It becomes predictable. I'm pathetic yet you're the one who has lost the argument and is now resorting to insults because you can't come up with anything intelligent to say..Great logic there junior
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
@QuassDebonair your pointless paragraphs are redundant, its not logical
MasterKickArse 7 months ago
@MasterKickArse "It's"Proper grammar next time junior,it's logical
QuassDebonair 7 months ago
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MasterKickArse 7 months ago
@QuassDebonair you just proved my point. correcting my grammar over the internet really is pathetic.
MasterKickArse 7 months ago