If the EU were wise, they would find an alternative to Russian oil and gas. If you become to dependant on Russian natural resources you will pay in the end. EU please find an alternate source of energy, don't fall into the Russian bear trap.
I think you are another crazy freak overplayed in "Red Alert"))) Such persons never heard about market prices, and don't have a clue about cooperation between Russian and foreign companies. But instead of it, such idiots continue to live in "Cold War era" with evil Russia and kind west, when everything is much more complicated, and it's usually "west" using resources as political weapon (Iraq, Georgia,...).
Hey, idiots. Try to be more constructive, please))
The Russian oil and gas companies are owned by the Russian government. It is not in the intrest of European nations to be dependant on Russia for it's energy, it is not a reliable source. Sorry igrovasilevsky you Russian troll, Russia will not control Europe through oil & gas. Go sell your gas and oil to China.
1) First, if Russia will sell gas and oil to China, Europe will freeze, because it doesn't have alternative sources, which can supply all volume of resources that they need.
2) I repeat, Russia was reliable source all last 35 years. And even in hard times NEVER stopped transit. It began when US puppet became the president of Ukraine, and it's DOCUMENTED (I repeat it hundred's times) by SGS and by EU observers. So - FAILED, american idiot.
3) Of course your small american brains are not enough to find any information about foreign investments in oil sector of Russia - ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, Petronas, China National Petroleum Corporation, ...
You brains are just not enough for this hard action))
In the short term Europe needs Russian gas, but I would look for other sources or countries to supply oil and gas in the future. It is not worth depending on Russia, the Russian goverment plays to many games with oil and gas, not worth it.
I think your american ignorance creating fantasies in your small brains. Maybe I shoud repeat? But for what? American is american, and you can't change it...
+ one more FACT. Russia already signed billion-dollars contracts with Japan, South Korea, China (this week, on more than 100 billions $), majority of European countries (Nord Stream, Blue Stream, Blue Stream 2).. ALREADY SIGNED.
And who fuckin cares about you, murk, you even don't live in Europe according to your profile))) Who cares?))
Ignorant igor, what I'm saying is that it is not in any countries intrest to put their energy needs in the hand of Russia. I would never want the Russian goverment to have leverage over my country. The EU is taking up this measure to bypass Russian energy : )
Majority of EU countries, which will play role in Nord Stream and Blue Stream ALREADY signed multi-billion contracts with Russia. You are fuckin american, who know NOTHING, because you are uninformed zombie, who can only write bullshit about Russia, based on NOTHING, based on US propoganda. This is all that you, americans, can - to write BULLSHIT. ALWAYS. This is your famous old tradition.
Fine these countries have multi-billion dollar contracts, but this still does not avoid the fact that EU countries are taking a serious look at relying on Russia for it's oil and natural gas needs. The EU is looking at ways to bypass Russia for it's energy needs because it's not in their national or security intrest to depend on Russian oil and natrual gas. This is a fact. What sane country in Europe would depend on Russia for it's energy needs? Think about it.
You are really TOTAL idiot, who ignore ALL FACTS. I can't understand this idiocracy. Only american can write so many bullshit on cube meter of comments))
Of course, you don't undestand all this business. Because you are sitting in US, blocked and censored to all information. And receaving only 1% of all FACTS, only anti-Russian propoganda, created in US media and based on NOTHING.
Maybe I should repeat 3rd time, idiot? Or you will accept FACTS, retard? Americans, how are you FUCKIN dumb.....
From the other hand, US puppet state Georgia during ONE YEAR, 365 DAYS blocking Russian gas to S.Ossetia.
And what? haha) US media even didin't mention this anti-human action. And you, murk, of course didn't know it, because you are isolated american))
You are FUCKIN idiot, murk. You are really fuckin retard without brains, like majority of american zombies. You are so stupid. You are even dumber than kids. That's why Bush only could be president of USA. President-idiot of idiots...
Also, AS USUAL, you ignored my words about foreign investments and companies.
You wrote that "all oil and gas companies are controlled by Russian government"
Then I wrote that there are tons of foreign investors and co-directors.
And then you what?... IGNORED. Because it is uncomfrortable truth for you. Because it wasn't reported on your brainwashed US media. Because you are fuckin coward. Because you are ... AMERICAN. And it explains all..
igorvasilevsky, i dont think that such kind of people ever prefer to do some kind of analystic thinking. Living in wonderworld, as you said, is the easiest way and they follow it with smiles on their faces. Its a waste of time really, trying to have a discussion with ones who simply dont want to hear you.
I even don't want to talk you about US involving in this gas crisises (Matthew Braisa & co), because it's too hard to understand it for typical american brains..
This is why Europe does not want Ukraine, Baltic countries and Georgia. Because these countries are full of expenses and none of potential. If Ukraine manages to get into EU, her partners will have to spend lots of money.
This why the EU needs to diversify its gas supply chain by introducing more LPG and LNG tankers. This is how the UK avoids any hassle with tans-continental pipelines, and has a sustainable 25-year contract for natural gas, with the UAE.
No. We will be sitting in the dark, huddled around candles before any governement gets it act together. The problems we face now were inevitable. Know that sounds miserable, I have no faith in the system, the UK has forgotten how to be a productive nation.
If you're prepared to pay ten times what you now pay for energy, you will not be without :-) The UK can be a productive nation, but it has yet to become productive in lines of production which are of a significantly higher value than that placed overseas, and employed a lot of unskilled, low-skilled and medium-skilled labour. Thus call-centres, supermarket checkouts and activities of a similar ilk. This is why a minimum wage had to be introduced. And why food is not produced, to buy.
Don't worry, Russian and European companies already building Nord Stream, Blue Stream, Blue Stream 2. No one LPG and LNG tankers can transport 200 billions cube metres of gas per year.
Few years later Golfstream will change its direction and Europe will freeze on 10 degrees to 2015, so this pipelines are preparing for this. Also East Siberia will become much warmer, that's why Russia will be the most attractive country to 2020. It's already planned and elite know it.
'dont worry'? Hey if it comes from Russia it is not a safe source. A contract is not exactly sacred to you people. ...Whenever the next gang of thugs in the Kremlin throw out the current gang of thugs everything will be up in the air (again)
My apologies. I forgot that Russia is the new home of free and independent journalism. That must be why I encounter such a rich and wide range of opinions when discussing Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic states with Russians on line. HURRAY FOR THE OPEN FREE DEMOCRATIC MODERN RUSSIA! Thanks 4 the break, but I must plug back in to the CIA, Zionist, Imperialist Corporate conspiracy media to get my daily zombie fix now. LOL
Also, while you are talking bullshit about "journalism in Russia" (which created only by your fantasy and US media propoganda), you must check category "Police State" on infowars(.)com .
You must also find video "The End Of America. 10 Steps To Facsism".
You will be no so funny, clown, after spending at least few minutes on simple research. Dumb american zombie..
Barrosso is a loud-mouth right-wing maniac for whom no-one in the EU actually voted. He's just a pathetic puppet who is always shouting, but in reality he has the IQ of a can of tomatoes.
It's not a "gas" crisis but rather a Currency crisis because retarded politicians and central banks don't understand the destructive policy of printing money.
Ukrainian president is an US puppet who came to power by violent "orange revolution" financed by CIA and EU. For the last couple of years he has demonstrated so openly that he is a US/EU puppet that he enjoys less than 2% of public support today. Ukraine is economically collapsing, just like many other NATO/EU puppets is Eastern Europe which thought that anti-Russianism is a profitable business. They thought that they could feed their children not by hard work but by being western puppets...
i think we should all meet up in dublin on the day they call the result, storm the building and do some damage to the cowards who done this to the nation... no means no i think we would only be being loyal to the constitution;-)
Plucky little Ireland was very happy to take tens of billions of €uros, when the going was good. For instance: Ireland manipulated the regional subsidy schemes by encouraging tens of thousands of immigrants, so that Ireland could claim regional assistance, it shouldn't have been getting, for a further two years. Then, Ireland guaranteed bank deposits, it couldn't guarantee, and forced the EU to implement similar bailout polices, it did not want to implement. It's good to be a good European ;-)
exactly rich white greedy fat corrupt traitors, who handed my nation over to the transnationalist's in europe, all so that these little plucky irish men could drive around in there worthless cars, while the real Irish got fucked fucked up the ass....... fuck Jewish europe
I think Ukrainian president will do everything for another gas crisis, because this was one of the purposes when US financed "Orange Revolution" - to blackmail Russia as gas producer and to freeze Europeans.
So, it's very strange that EU don't have 5 billions for credit to Ukraine.
And of course Ushenko did all to ruin Ukraine's economic for this.
Germany (+UK and USA) payed the "orange revolution" only to help bring anti-Russian politicians to power in Ukraine. However it looks like Germany didn't realize that the people whom it financed are irresponsible and childish. But on the other hand how could anyone reasonable expect maturity and common sense from those whose whole policy is based on hatred towards their closest neighbor who has subsidized their economy for years?!?
If the EU were wise, they would find an alternative to Russian oil and gas. If you become to dependant on Russian natural resources you will pay in the end. EU please find an alternate source of energy, don't fall into the Russian bear trap.
murk2002 2 years ago
I think you are another crazy freak overplayed in "Red Alert"))) Such persons never heard about market prices, and don't have a clue about cooperation between Russian and foreign companies. But instead of it, such idiots continue to live in "Cold War era" with evil Russia and kind west, when everything is much more complicated, and it's usually "west" using resources as political weapon (Iraq, Georgia,...).
Hey, idiots. Try to be more constructive, please))
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
Oh, damn, murk2002 is another american... It explains all... Pathetic people from USA showing more and more idiocracy and shaming themselves..
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
The Russian oil and gas companies are owned by the Russian government. It is not in the intrest of European nations to be dependant on Russia for it's energy, it is not a reliable source. Sorry igrovasilevsky you Russian troll, Russia will not control Europe through oil & gas. Go sell your gas and oil to China.
murk2002 2 years ago
Damn, american ignorance attacking))
1) First, if Russia will sell gas and oil to China, Europe will freeze, because it doesn't have alternative sources, which can supply all volume of resources that they need.
2) I repeat, Russia was reliable source all last 35 years. And even in hard times NEVER stopped transit. It began when US puppet became the president of Ukraine, and it's DOCUMENTED (I repeat it hundred's times) by SGS and by EU observers. So - FAILED, american idiot.
Pathetic clown.
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
3) Of course your small american brains are not enough to find any information about foreign investments in oil sector of Russia - ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, Petronas, China National Petroleum Corporation, ...
You brains are just not enough for this hard action))
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
So
cheers, American. Before writing absurd and, simply, bullshit - try to at least THINK and USE BRAINS)) LOL
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
In the short term Europe needs Russian gas, but I would look for other sources or countries to supply oil and gas in the future. It is not worth depending on Russia, the Russian goverment plays to many games with oil and gas, not worth it.
murk2002 2 years ago
I think your american ignorance creating fantasies in your small brains. Maybe I shoud repeat? But for what? American is american, and you can't change it...
+ one more FACT. Russia already signed billion-dollars contracts with Japan, South Korea, China (this week, on more than 100 billions $), majority of European countries (Nord Stream, Blue Stream, Blue Stream 2).. ALREADY SIGNED.
And who fuckin cares about you, murk, you even don't live in Europe according to your profile))) Who cares?))
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
Ignorant igor, what I'm saying is that it is not in any countries intrest to put their energy needs in the hand of Russia. I would never want the Russian goverment to have leverage over my country. The EU is taking up this measure to bypass Russian energy : )
murk2002 2 years ago
Are you idiot? Do you read comments?
Majority of EU countries, which will play role in Nord Stream and Blue Stream ALREADY signed multi-billion contracts with Russia. You are fuckin american, who know NOTHING, because you are uninformed zombie, who can only write bullshit about Russia, based on NOTHING, based on US propoganda. This is all that you, americans, can - to write BULLSHIT. ALWAYS. This is your famous old tradition.
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
Fine these countries have multi-billion dollar contracts, but this still does not avoid the fact that EU countries are taking a serious look at relying on Russia for it's oil and natural gas needs. The EU is looking at ways to bypass Russia for it's energy needs because it's not in their national or security intrest to depend on Russian oil and natrual gas. This is a fact. What sane country in Europe would depend on Russia for it's energy needs? Think about it.
murk2002 2 years ago
You are really TOTAL idiot, who ignore ALL FACTS. I can't understand this idiocracy. Only american can write so many bullshit on cube meter of comments))
Of course, you don't undestand all this business. Because you are sitting in US, blocked and censored to all information. And receaving only 1% of all FACTS, only anti-Russian propoganda, created in US media and based on NOTHING.
Maybe I should repeat 3rd time, idiot? Or you will accept FACTS, retard? Americans, how are you FUCKIN dumb.....
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
From the other hand, US puppet state Georgia during ONE YEAR, 365 DAYS blocking Russian gas to S.Ossetia.
And what? haha) US media even didin't mention this anti-human action. And you, murk, of course didn't know it, because you are isolated american))
You are FUCKIN idiot, murk. You are really fuckin retard without brains, like majority of american zombies. You are so stupid. You are even dumber than kids. That's why Bush only could be president of USA. President-idiot of idiots...
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
Also, AS USUAL, you ignored my words about foreign investments and companies.
You wrote that "all oil and gas companies are controlled by Russian government"
Then I wrote that there are tons of foreign investors and co-directors.
And then you what?... IGNORED. Because it is uncomfrortable truth for you. Because it wasn't reported on your brainwashed US media. Because you are fuckin coward. Because you are ... AMERICAN. And it explains all..
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
igorvasilevsky, i dont think that such kind of people ever prefer to do some kind of analystic thinking. Living in wonderworld, as you said, is the easiest way and they follow it with smiles on their faces. Its a waste of time really, trying to have a discussion with ones who simply dont want to hear you.
utubesuq2 2 years ago
I even don't want to talk you about US involving in this gas crisises (Matthew Braisa & co), because it's too hard to understand it for typical american brains..
Cheers, zombie. Continue to live in wonderland..
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
EU deserves to crawl in its feet after
installing a pro western puppet in Ukraine
too bad it did not go as planned huh ???
LOOOOLLL
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
better than a cunt of one in russia
UkrainianCossack09 2 years ago
where dose the money go in some hole
youstupidwoman 2 years ago
This is why Europe does not want Ukraine, Baltic countries and Georgia. Because these countries are full of expenses and none of potential. If Ukraine manages to get into EU, her partners will have to spend lots of money.
vendetta007mike 2 years ago
we must avoid all violent confrontations to bring about peace
massmanthaman 2 years ago
This why the EU needs to diversify its gas supply chain by introducing more LPG and LNG tankers. This is how the UK avoids any hassle with tans-continental pipelines, and has a sustainable 25-year contract for natural gas, with the UAE.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
No. We will be sitting in the dark, huddled around candles before any governement gets it act together. The problems we face now were inevitable. Know that sounds miserable, I have no faith in the system, the UK has forgotten how to be a productive nation.
pussyfiesta 2 years ago
If you're prepared to pay ten times what you now pay for energy, you will not be without :-) The UK can be a productive nation, but it has yet to become productive in lines of production which are of a significantly higher value than that placed overseas, and employed a lot of unskilled, low-skilled and medium-skilled labour. Thus call-centres, supermarket checkouts and activities of a similar ilk. This is why a minimum wage had to be introduced. And why food is not produced, to buy.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
Don't worry, Russian and European companies already building Nord Stream, Blue Stream, Blue Stream 2. No one LPG and LNG tankers can transport 200 billions cube metres of gas per year.
Few years later Golfstream will change its direction and Europe will freeze on 10 degrees to 2015, so this pipelines are preparing for this. Also East Siberia will become much warmer, that's why Russia will be the most attractive country to 2020. It's already planned and elite know it.
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
'dont worry'? Hey if it comes from Russia it is not a safe source. A contract is not exactly sacred to you people. ...Whenever the next gang of thugs in the Kremlin throw out the current gang of thugs everything will be up in the air (again)
rantrandomly 2 years ago
You are brainwashed moron. For last 35 years Russia NEVER STOPPED GAS TRANSIT to EUROPE. Do you realise it?
This conflicts began only when US puppet became president of Ukraine.
From the other hand US state Georgia during 1 YEAR (!) blocking RUSSIAN GAS to S.Ossetia.
Oh, yeah, you are just another fuckin uninformed zombie, who watched too many US media.. Stupid americans attacking... Pathetic..
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
My apologies. I forgot that Russia is the new home of free and independent journalism. That must be why I encounter such a rich and wide range of opinions when discussing Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic states with Russians on line. HURRAY FOR THE OPEN FREE DEMOCRATIC MODERN RUSSIA! Thanks 4 the break, but I must plug back in to the CIA, Zionist, Imperialist Corporate conspiracy media to get my daily zombie fix now. LOL
rantrandomly 2 years ago
You said only "bla bla bla" and ignored FACTS.
What can you say on this?
1)For last 35 years Russia NEVER STOPPED GAS TRANSIT to EUROPE.
2) Georgia during 1 YEAR (!) still blocking RUSSIAN GAS to S.Ossetia.
3) SGS company and EU observers DOCUMENTED that Ukraine stealed gas and blocked transit.
Try not to write bla bla bla without facts. Try to ANSWER on every point, zombie..
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
Also, while you are talking bullshit about "journalism in Russia" (which created only by your fantasy and US media propoganda), you must check category "Police State" on infowars(.)com .
You must also find video "The End Of America. 10 Steps To Facsism".
You will be no so funny, clown, after spending at least few minutes on simple research. Dumb american zombie..
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
Barrosso is a loud-mouth right-wing maniac for whom no-one in the EU actually voted. He's just a pathetic puppet who is always shouting, but in reality he has the IQ of a can of tomatoes.
MarshallKutuzov 2 years ago
It's not a "gas" crisis but rather a Currency crisis because retarded politicians and central banks don't understand the destructive policy of printing money.
JessicaBelle81 2 years ago
Ukrainian president is an US puppet who came to power by violent "orange revolution" financed by CIA and EU. For the last couple of years he has demonstrated so openly that he is a US/EU puppet that he enjoys less than 2% of public support today. Ukraine is economically collapsing, just like many other NATO/EU puppets is Eastern Europe which thought that anti-Russianism is a profitable business. They thought that they could feed their children not by hard work but by being western puppets...
Igor707 2 years ago 4
I agree. Now politicians sell their sold to the devil, this way they become rich and someelse later will deal with the consequences.
Now, the chickens have come home to roost and yes, people is waking up to sound principles.
agfigueroaa 2 years ago
eu the worst thing that ever happened to ireland
buckodcelt 2 years ago 3
and it is coming back this fall.
Like all empires, they do not like "no" as answers.
I think they have everything set to rig the election.
agfigueroaa 2 years ago
i think we should all meet up in dublin on the day they call the result, storm the building and do some damage to the cowards who done this to the nation... no means no i think we would only be being loyal to the constitution;-)
buckodcelt 2 years ago
Plucky little Ireland was very happy to take tens of billions of €uros, when the going was good. For instance: Ireland manipulated the regional subsidy schemes by encouraging tens of thousands of immigrants, so that Ireland could claim regional assistance, it shouldn't have been getting, for a further two years. Then, Ireland guaranteed bank deposits, it couldn't guarantee, and forced the EU to implement similar bailout polices, it did not want to implement. It's good to be a good European ;-)
charlessmyth 2 years ago
Well, I guess the EU also got its part.
agfigueroaa 2 years ago
exactly rich white greedy fat corrupt traitors, who handed my nation over to the transnationalist's in europe, all so that these little plucky irish men could drive around in there worthless cars, while the real Irish got fucked fucked up the ass....... fuck Jewish europe
buckodcelt 2 years ago
I think Ukrainian president will do everything for another gas crisis, because this was one of the purposes when US financed "Orange Revolution" - to blackmail Russia as gas producer and to freeze Europeans.
So, it's very strange that EU don't have 5 billions for credit to Ukraine.
And of course Ushenko did all to ruin Ukraine's economic for this.
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago 4
hilarious. Germans paying for the gas that UKraine uses..... the population has been dumbed down,.
agfigueroaa 2 years ago
Something rotten is going on in the Ukraine, and it is the Bush supported President who is to blame. I hope the Ukrainians string him up.
MadRussianStudent 2 years ago 4
Germany (+UK and USA) payed the "orange revolution" only to help bring anti-Russian politicians to power in Ukraine. However it looks like Germany didn't realize that the people whom it financed are irresponsible and childish. But on the other hand how could anyone reasonable expect maturity and common sense from those whose whole policy is based on hatred towards their closest neighbor who has subsidized their economy for years?!?
Igor707 2 years ago 6