After using the Jx8P and a Juno 6 for the last 8 months I definately prefer the quality of the JX, it is so much classier, fatter, delicate, complex and built like a tank. As soon as it powers up you know its something special. If it had sliders it would be selling at 1k upwards easily. Juno 6 is also special but its more of a one trick pony and a lot thinner sounding than the JX imo, also no midi or storage by default.
I honestly think it would be too much overlap. They both sound very similar - especially when mixed in with other tracks and digitally rendered on your hard drive. However, the Juno-60 has an awesome texture to it. I personally feel the filter on it is without a doubt one of the best sounding of any analog synth. I am guessing the Juno-6 sounds just like it. The envelopes are fast and punchy but the 8p has midi which is another consideration.
I had the same question as AngryMollsc and currently have a jx8p. I would have thought that the Juno would have slightly more growl and sizzle to the bass and more responsiveness than the JX8p but with a controller I guess the JX8p is probably more versatile and maybe more advanced sounding than a Juno 6, maybe even capable of the same sound range? Can you comment on which one has noisier audio out? The 8P does seem a tad noisey when chorus is on. Thanks
The Juno-60 is one of the best sounding synths ever made no doubt. Yes, the chorus was a bit noisier on the Juno but it was what helped give the synth it's signature sound. Once mixed in the track the slight noise was of no concern. Also, the filter on my Juno-60 was fatter than on my MKS-80 (which I feel is way overrated)
The Juno 60 is one of the best sounding synths ever. It has a very rich texture. It is fatter sounding than the Jx-3p - but, the Jx-3p has midi. I think it was roland's first midi synth. You can control the Juno-60 with midi if you get a midi-to-dcb converter which you can buy used on ebay - or you can buy a new one made by Kenton Electronics. For bass and pads though, the Juno-60 shines. I would recommend the Roland JX-8p. It sounds magnificent and has midi.
I had a Juno-60 several years ago. I didn't spend enough time with it; I wish I hadn't sold it. I like how it sounds with the CV controlling the filter.
Without a doubt...there is something about the sound. I think DCOs can be effective when they are coupled with a great analog filter - and Roland nailed it. My first Roland JX type was an MKS-70. It sounded good but not spectacular. Then I got the JX-8P really cheap on Ebay. It blew the MKS-70 away. I had them right next to each other and could do the A/B comparision. Maybe I had a lame rev of the MKS-70, but the 8P really did sound fatter.
That's strange, considering that the M KS-70 IS a JX-10 in rackmount form. I doubt the particular rev has anything to do with it. Were the patches you were comparing factory presets?
The JX-10 is, for all purposes, 2 JX-8p's under one hood. I have to respectfully disagree and state that the 8p does not sound fatter than the JX-10/MKS-70.
I just compared the stock patches and then created some of my own on each synth with the PG-800. My particular 8-P sounded better than my MKS-70 for some reason. I have a friend who has a JX-10 and it sounds monstrous. I used to have a Jupiter-8 and an MKS-80. In my opinion the MKS-80 is one of the most overrated synths. I thought the Jupiter-8 was much ballsier.
Some people have described the sound of the 8p, as compared to the JX-10/MKS-70, as "darker" than its older brother. The latter does tend to sound "smoother," but not less "fat." But hey, man, everybody has their favorites and that's cool with me.
Agreed on the JP-8 and MKS-80 comparison though. The rack Jupiter does indeed sound thinner, especially the later revs.
My MKS-80 was a later rev so that might explain it. Never owned a CS-80...that is a dream synth for me. I owned a VS for years and it was awesome, the only problem is getting it serviced. If the display light goes out, etc you have to buy another synth to rob parts. David Sesniak at Wine Country is a good source but even he will tell you the VS is ultimatley doomed. Its arpeggiator rocks, though! near character limit...will continue...
At one time or another I've owned just about every Oberheim made. My SEM 8-voice was configured as a 4-voice but with two modules per note. OBXa was awesome, same with Matrix-12, my favorite Oberheim was an Xpander made in the old factory in Santa Monica. However, my fattest synth ever was the Memomorymoog. Just gargantuan...almost too fat!
It's a shame about the VS. I don't own one (yet), but I'm willing to risk it as an investment because I think the sounds this machine makes are simply out of this world. Us synth fans should get together and petition Dave Smith to release another vector synth with analog filters. How reliable was yours in the long run?
Great until the display went...and I couldn't find a replacement. I read where the new Evolver has all the VS waves in it and it has analog filters. There was a patch on my VS called "FilmMusic" that was awesome. The strings were rich and there were some really cool "harsh" sounds as well.
Yeah the PEK has the waves, but it doesn't have any vector synthesis capabilities, which is part of the reason I want to pick up a Prophet VS. Couldn't the VS display problems be due to an old/dead battery? If not, and it is actually a serious display problem, what are repair costs like?
The display has to be totally replaced and none seem to exist. If you get a VS I have a couple factory sound cartridges I kept just in case. I'll send them to ya and you can copy the sounds you want...including Filmmusic- then send em back.
After using the Jx8P and a Juno 6 for the last 8 months I definately prefer the quality of the JX, it is so much classier, fatter, delicate, complex and built like a tank. As soon as it powers up you know its something special. If it had sliders it would be selling at 1k upwards easily. Juno 6 is also special but its more of a one trick pony and a lot thinner sounding than the JX imo, also no midi or storage by default.
maccagrabme 1 year ago
Do Tha Do! Breaks and synths, keep on going!
AnthonyDavid94 1 year ago
i have a jx-8p,and am considering getting a juno 6 (60 without patches), is it worth having both, or is there too much overlap?
AngryMollusc 2 years ago
I honestly think it would be too much overlap. They both sound very similar - especially when mixed in with other tracks and digitally rendered on your hard drive. However, the Juno-60 has an awesome texture to it. I personally feel the filter on it is without a doubt one of the best sounding of any analog synth. I am guessing the Juno-6 sounds just like it. The envelopes are fast and punchy but the 8p has midi which is another consideration.
Analogger 2 years ago
I had the same question as AngryMollsc and currently have a jx8p. I would have thought that the Juno would have slightly more growl and sizzle to the bass and more responsiveness than the JX8p but with a controller I guess the JX8p is probably more versatile and maybe more advanced sounding than a Juno 6, maybe even capable of the same sound range? Can you comment on which one has noisier audio out? The 8P does seem a tad noisey when chorus is on. Thanks
maccagrabme 2 years ago
The Juno-60 is one of the best sounding synths ever made no doubt. Yes, the chorus was a bit noisier on the Juno but it was what helped give the synth it's signature sound. Once mixed in the track the slight noise was of no concern. Also, the filter on my Juno-60 was fatter than on my MKS-80 (which I feel is way overrated)
Analogger 2 years ago
I love roland filter, i used to have jupiter 6 and 8 and sh101..
my favourite synth filters... best ever made
smartti1970 2 years ago
i'm between juno 60 and jx-3p, is it possible if i ask which one is better in many terms?
whisperingvenus 2 years ago
The Juno 60 is one of the best sounding synths ever. It has a very rich texture. It is fatter sounding than the Jx-3p - but, the Jx-3p has midi. I think it was roland's first midi synth. You can control the Juno-60 with midi if you get a midi-to-dcb converter which you can buy used on ebay - or you can buy a new one made by Kenton Electronics. For bass and pads though, the Juno-60 shines. I would recommend the Roland JX-8p. It sounds magnificent and has midi.
Analogger 2 years ago
I had a Juno-60 several years ago. I didn't spend enough time with it; I wish I hadn't sold it. I like how it sounds with the CV controlling the filter.
I really like the drums in this one.
787Bisurdaddy 3 years ago
nice I like it.
VOLTAGEHEAD 3 years ago
sounded good.
bentsynth 4 years ago
Is that the best you can get out of your jx8P? Try downloading the free PG800 Programmer software. It's ace..
spaceman1x 4 years ago
I heard its great. I sold the 8P awhile back but I really miss it! I am looking for another and I will get that software, thanks!
Analogger 4 years ago
Cool video. I hope to be getting a JX-8P soon.
rezisehtnys 4 years ago
That bleep is soo fucking anoying
Cubik89 4 years ago 9
really great! :)
DX5 4 years ago
Great fun...Much success!
Could you tell me what model CV converter you are using?
Thanks
Nastic88 4 years ago
Thanks! I was using the Roland MPU-101. You can also see it at work on my
Roland GR-300 Guitar Synth (filter modulation) video.
Analogger 4 years ago
Insteresting. I have a JX-8P too although my style of playing is......somewhat different.
organfairy 4 years ago
Nice work, man. I own a JX-10. It and the JX-8p are great DCO analog synths.
kfrausto 4 years ago
Without a doubt...there is something about the sound. I think DCOs can be effective when they are coupled with a great analog filter - and Roland nailed it. My first Roland JX type was an MKS-70. It sounded good but not spectacular. Then I got the JX-8P really cheap on Ebay. It blew the MKS-70 away. I had them right next to each other and could do the A/B comparision. Maybe I had a lame rev of the MKS-70, but the 8P really did sound fatter.
Analogger 4 years ago
That's strange, considering that the M KS-70 IS a JX-10 in rackmount form. I doubt the particular rev has anything to do with it. Were the patches you were comparing factory presets?
The JX-10 is, for all purposes, 2 JX-8p's under one hood. I have to respectfully disagree and state that the 8p does not sound fatter than the JX-10/MKS-70.
What kind of comparison did you do?
kfrausto 4 years ago
I just compared the stock patches and then created some of my own on each synth with the PG-800. My particular 8-P sounded better than my MKS-70 for some reason. I have a friend who has a JX-10 and it sounds monstrous. I used to have a Jupiter-8 and an MKS-80. In my opinion the MKS-80 is one of the most overrated synths. I thought the Jupiter-8 was much ballsier.
Analogger 4 years ago
Some people have described the sound of the 8p, as compared to the JX-10/MKS-70, as "darker" than its older brother. The latter does tend to sound "smoother," but not less "fat." But hey, man, everybody has their favorites and that's cool with me.
Agreed on the JP-8 and MKS-80 comparison though. The rack Jupiter does indeed sound thinner, especially the later revs.
kfrausto 4 years ago
Damn 500 character limit. haha. Anyways:
You're right about the JX-10...it sounds massive. With the PG-800 it can hold its own with a Jupiter 8 (except for basses).
I'd love to own a Jupiter 8, but I'd take a CS-80 or a VS anyday over it. =)
kfrausto 4 years ago
My MKS-80 was a later rev so that might explain it. Never owned a CS-80...that is a dream synth for me. I owned a VS for years and it was awesome, the only problem is getting it serviced. If the display light goes out, etc you have to buy another synth to rob parts. David Sesniak at Wine Country is a good source but even he will tell you the VS is ultimatley doomed. Its arpeggiator rocks, though! near character limit...will continue...
Analogger 4 years ago
At one time or another I've owned just about every Oberheim made. My SEM 8-voice was configured as a 4-voice but with two modules per note. OBXa was awesome, same with Matrix-12, my favorite Oberheim was an Xpander made in the old factory in Santa Monica. However, my fattest synth ever was the Memomorymoog. Just gargantuan...almost too fat!
Analogger 4 years ago
That's quite a list! Alot of dream synths in there. How reliable was the Mermorymoog? I hear they're a pain to repair. But yeah, huge sound.
kfrausto 4 years ago
It's a shame about the VS. I don't own one (yet), but I'm willing to risk it as an investment because I think the sounds this machine makes are simply out of this world. Us synth fans should get together and petition Dave Smith to release another vector synth with analog filters. How reliable was yours in the long run?
kfrausto 4 years ago
Great until the display went...and I couldn't find a replacement. I read where the new Evolver has all the VS waves in it and it has analog filters. There was a patch on my VS called "FilmMusic" that was awesome. The strings were rich and there were some really cool "harsh" sounds as well.
Analogger 4 years ago
Yeah the PEK has the waves, but it doesn't have any vector synthesis capabilities, which is part of the reason I want to pick up a Prophet VS. Couldn't the VS display problems be due to an old/dead battery? If not, and it is actually a serious display problem, what are repair costs like?
Cheers, man.
kfrausto 4 years ago
The display has to be totally replaced and none seem to exist. If you get a VS I have a couple factory sound cartridges I kept just in case. I'll send them to ya and you can copy the sounds you want...including Filmmusic- then send em back.
Analogger 4 years ago