Debian GNU/Linux on Lemote Box

[nilbud]

That high tech square monitor with all that stuff hanging out the back must be some kind of 3d tank, they're years ahead.

[pOnShOnEiToR]

delete this u suck

[linuxtron]

I think its good . I believe that diversity in this world is a very good thing , being a slave of the US or Japan ,just because they have the technology i think is meaningless .

So .. Congrats China. AND For the free software movement .

[steamedsalmon]

yeeloong 8089, the 8.9" mini laptop is available in Holland, by tekmote, it's with loongson 2F, can't wait to get one.

[aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa78815]

@steamedsalmon the only distributer i can find is in holland. id like to get the netbook model but i dont want to get one from europe because i live in oceania

[prognostein]

Great work by Chinese engineers. x86 compatibility has already been worked out. What do most computers get used for in China/India ? Email, internet (shopping, booking ticks, accounts, read news), playing games, watching movies. Now why should that require the latest technology and the latest most cpu draining version of Win32 ?? Go China ! The third world and hackers internationally congratulate you.

[zjulfh]

配上英文字幕会更好点 虽然我的回复old了

[xiaoguangli]

龙芯

[nortexoid]

they're a couple of years behind in process technology. it's mildly interesting, but there are way better platforms for the money.

[cnzny]

cool,

Chinese is Great!

[PL7s]

It's important to know that CPU made in China.

想让更多人了解"龙芯"，好好做一个视频，然后用英语配一下音。

标题写作Lemote vs AMD 或者 Lemote vs Intel

[cnzny]

You are rubbish

[fuckermother187]

thank you. good vid.

[nachomanco]

anyone knows what kind of hardware is in the Lemote Box?, I mean processor, memory, etc. I'm sorry if it is hard to understand the question (spanish is my mother tongue). best regards.

[gizm11]

:) that answered bunch of my questions. Anyhow regarding certificates - ROHS is indeed a problem and parts not compliant cannot be shipped to the EU :/ , regarding the mass market - doesnt the company want to challenge 'wintels' supremacy on the market? All they need is a good logistics/distributing company and they are good to go. There are bunch of people who look for alternative computers (non-pentium/amd and non-mac)this could be a perfect one.

[ubuntpku]

They should show up something to the wintel. I agree with you. But i am worried about whether they know that their products are actually needed by a mass market. They have been criticized a lot in China. Too many people know nothing about Linux and asked them to support Windows. They blame Loongson that it is not Windows compatible and not for common people. But Loongson is a mips-instruction-set-compatibl­e-alpha-like CPU with many new instructions. How can it go a WIN?

[ubuntpku]

AND I would like to ask why Win? But the customers just have Windows-Washed minds.They do not want to try on new and better things. Moreover, the media always compare Loongson Box to big x86 machines in performance. They DIY a 1600RMB(~160 Euro) big stuff which can run Win and a lot PC games to mock at Loongson Box (sold at 1599RMB). I just don't know if Lemote can still believe in themselves and believe their market.

[gizm11]

I have heard that it is supposed to be produced on a mass scale (as it was announced by the Chinese Academy of Sciences in november last year). What are the chances of this little sweet box hitting the European market? If so when (if ever)? Europe could use a cold shower when it comes to mini-computer prices... :)Although I believe that the Lemote box will appear in the US before it comes to Europe xD

[ubuntpku]

Hello, I don't think the Box with Loongson 2E inside will be produced on a mass scale as Loongson 2F is comming. Loongson 2F is expected faster, cheaper, with DDR2 RAM support, more mips3-compatible and more power-saving. I think the new product will also have a better looking too.

[ubuntpku]

The boxes will be sold at Chinese domestic market first, undoubtedly. If they really want to hit the international market, there are too many barriers(all kinds of certifications, authentications, stardards, e.g. FCC ROHS, etc, and custom duty, and transport costs) for them to override.

[ubuntpku]

Although the Boxes are nearly radiation-free and have very good result in CCC test, I know that currently the motherboards use VIA 686B as south bridge, which cannot pass ROHS. ROHS seems an EU certification? You know this better than me ;-)

[ubuntpku]

Lemote, as a small company composed mostly by technicians and Linux developers, has no such power to deal with international market at present. They are not very good at business, actually. They are busy with software porting and developing, but not business. The fact make them kind and honest to users like us, but not competent to other companies.

[ubuntpku]

The attitude of Lemote toward international purchase is that they can post the Loongson Boxes to Linuxers who are interested in such product. But no formal sale is available in near future.

Sorry to split message in so many pieces, but Youtube has a 500 char limit. :-(

[aviers]

I'm glad that someone is making a new procesor from scratch. Another greeting from buenos aires.

[ubuntpku]

Hi, the CPU is not completely from scratch. It is 95% MIPS III compatible in instruction set though the internal structure is not similar. So we can use Debian for mipsel on it.

[aleehk82]

The video seems to show a device with older hardware and older software. YellowSheepRiver Municator. Gnome 2.4 and Netscape communicator is obsolete by now. Please relabel the video. The website is easily found, just google for it.

[ubuntpku]

Hello, this is indeed Debian, not YellowSheepRiver on Municator. I did see one video clip showing YellowSheepRiver on Lemote Box. It was longer than 10min and couldn't be uploaded.

This Box was a sample. Now this kind of box has been produced about 1000 as a pilot run with different appearance. I am now using Debian Sid on it.

[sdubois92]

looks odly like a mac mini

[SteveWilson321]

Chinky Habinky

[googleabcd]

Go China!!!! Cpu will be designed and made in China!

[JerkyNYC]

Thanks for sharing, quality of the video was good. Linux is great.

[ubuntpku]

I can't agree more. Linux is really great.

Hope this Linux-only CPU will contribute to spreading Linux and opensource spirit.

[mushk45]

this is awesome! I read about this new cpu on wikipedia and...your blog!

[ubuntpku]

The box on the monitor is a Lemote Box, which is a Loongson2E(originally called Godson2E) CPU heart mini-PC.

Sorry for the video quality

[nachomanco]

sorry for video quality?. men the video is alright, you should see some other stuff with REALLY shit quality. the only detail (for me), its that i dont understand/know in wich LANGUAGE are they talking. greetings from buenos aires.

[ubuntpku]

Oh, thanks!

They are talking in Chinese. I can hear someone was saying:"Opening a powerpoint is still slow at present."