Doesn't that work for most teams at some time or other, even ManUre & Ferguson could be so criticised. Look at Huddesfield Town, first to three league championships, 4 FA Cup wins, and then what?
It's what made/makes football so interesting. Sadly, over time, money is killing the aspirations of many just as it is doing to society in general.
Genius is over used today, but does apply to Clough. He would have been a success in any walk of life had he chosen. Given the right education, contacts and connections could have risen to cabinet minister or prime minister had he chosen something like politics as a career as opposed to football.
I can't believe you're stupid enough to ask that question, but as you obviously are I'll explain..please read carefully...
I asked about Forest's record before Clough arrived and after he left...meaning that if hadn't been for him you'd still be an unknown lower league team.
Would any modern day manager be willing to discuss and analyze his team's performance after they'd been thrashed 8-2? No, didn't think so. All fans get these days is a quick 2 minutes after the game of the same old cliched crap. The football may not have been better back in the day, but at least we had characters like Clough and managers who wouldn't throw a tantrum if they were asked a difficult question!
A TOP MAN,WISH HE WAS STILL AROUND,FOOTBALL MISSES THE REAL GREATS.AND IM A SPURS FAN,WHO HE DESTROYED ON A REGULAR BASIS.HIS TEAM SCORED 8 AGAINST US,THEN 5 AT THE LANE IN THE CUP...SAD FOR US BUT WHAT A MANAGER
man i wish football was like this again.Great commentators like brian moore,exciting and interesting geniuses like clough as managers and football players who played for the love of the game and the teams supporters.Not the over priced,over payed prats of today.R I P Clough and moore.
what I loved about brian clough is that he always came out and told the truth, the players were bad etc etc and rarely blamed anyone else except from his players. a true legend of the game and the british game wouldnt be the same but for cloughie. A sad miss for the game as a whole RIP cloughie
this video is proof that Michael Sheen's take on Clough in The Damned United was near faultless. Brian Clough was a genius, but what made him stand out was his charisma. Brilliant.
Absolutely marvellous comment at 4.22 - talking to the camera, the Brighton fans, with a crafty grin - "no newspaper, television or anything will move us from this particular style" - played that about 10 times and I'd recommend anyone else do the same, it's addictive. :)
He was there with a front row view, saw us crushed and dying. He aways blamed drunk Liverpool fans despite overwhelming evidence and confessions. I know he had his own demons but his 'stance' on Hilsborough ruined his reputation for ever.
it was liverpools fans fault... people didnt have tickets and snuck in... just like heysel wasnt liverpools fault eh? and in athens scouse scum didnt rob tickets from each other eh? self pity city....ye killed your own fans
@joeroyjoe16 thats right,Liverpool fans at their last euro final was over twice the amount at least than the ticket allocation.Exactly the same as Hilsborough,unfortunately,they were to blame for the deaths of their own lot.
Hillsborough was caused by a poor allocation of seats to Liverpool fans, poor police and steward control to navigate large numbers of people into the area, and a failure to adhere to proper health and safety standards which meant too many people were admitted to too small an area.
Bullshit.Clough may of been controversial at times but he would never of said that.Brian Clough was a football genius,until drink got the better of him.Brian Clough R.I.P
Let's remember that Clough didn't do anything special at Brighton precisely because of his forthrightness and endless honesty. The problem was players with no ego whatsoever - pretty much the opposite to the later problems at Leeds.
His style only really worked to their fullest at 'sleeping giant' clubs. And with players primarily of 'neglected talent'.
Bollox.....when he took over at Derby and Forest..neither team had ever achieved anything of note..so they couldn't be referred to as giants at that time...think again dipshit.
@uncleangler Semantics aside, they were certainly better off than Brighton were before he took over, which is my real point. Besides, I'm not saying anything Cloughie himself didn't say.
Noah97 it IS still happening now. What about Harry Redknapp's rant about Darren Bent .."my missus could've scored that one" ? Or his nightclub ban on the hooray henry's at Spurs ? Or his rant about Pavlechenko being pschologically unsound. Or the rant about players' agents going behind his back to the chairman. Or the one about Arsenal fans being notorious for provoking opposing players to make obscene gestures towards them.
@raleighgranprix No, you misunderstand. There's footage of Clough sat in the dugout during one of his hammerings with Brighton and Nigel (then a young child) is sat next to him. This happened on a few occasions apparently.
what a great clip , thanks Keunwah... yes i agree ,, Wenger would blame the pitch and fergie would blame the fixture crowding. these were golden days of football , how i miss them!
i think that has a lot to do with "player power" today... the players are big-time prima donnas, and hence managers need to protect their egos and find someone/something else to blame... yu don't seriously think rafa, mourinho, wenger and ferguson don't know when their players messed up, do ya?
you just have to respect brian clough - what a gentleman - I'd love to see ferguson, wenger or benitez analyse one of their defeats like this - hats off!
Doesn't that work for most teams at some time or other, even ManUre & Ferguson could be so criticised. Look at Huddesfield Town, first to three league championships, 4 FA Cup wins, and then what?
It's what made/makes football so interesting. Sadly, over time, money is killing the aspirations of many just as it is doing to society in general.
OwdBogger 1 month ago
Genius is over used today, but does apply to Clough. He would have been a success in any walk of life had he chosen. Given the right education, contacts and connections could have risen to cabinet minister or prime minister had he chosen something like politics as a career as opposed to football.
laurag360 4 months ago
@laurag360 fuckinhell why not just make him god and have done with it! knob
in2u2b 3 months ago
Holy Shit!
if you lose 8-2 at home to bristol fucking rovers...give up!!
QueenReigns1 5 months ago
@QueenReigns1 -were lucky he didnt think like you...wouldnt have won the two european cups if he had..
harigovindm1 2 months ago
@harigovindm1
But he did give up..and he went to Leeds...another mistake.
Now tell me Forest's record before and after Clough...doesn't make good reading does it?
spacecowboy7580 2 months ago
@spacecowboy7580 -how does nottingham forests before and after form have anything to do with clough...?
harigovindm1 2 months ago
@harigovindm1
I can't believe you're stupid enough to ask that question, but as you obviously are I'll explain..please read carefully...
I asked about Forest's record before Clough arrived and after he left...meaning that if hadn't been for him you'd still be an unknown lower league team.
0-4 LOL
Do you understand now thick boy?
spacecowboy7580 2 months ago
@harigovindm1
P.S. Forest 0 Leeds 4 LMFAO
spacecowboy7580 2 months ago
Arsene Wenger take note!
oiluvit 5 months ago 2
Wish Wenger would've reacted like this last sunday
str33n 5 months ago
@str33n Strangely, it was Alex Ferguson who was in this sort of mood after that match.
kisbie 5 months ago
Spot on
Superb post
cajjer 6 months ago
no manager talks like this again
rssfeedslive 6 months ago
There is Only one Bristol Rovers!!!!!!!
paulsimmonsy 6 months ago
@user8908
Didn't really see nothing special here TBH...
supahdupahguy81 10 months ago
CLOUGHIE you in the heart
NOTTINGHAM FOREST TILL I DIE
alhaidaree
forestzx2 1 year ago
Would any modern day manager be willing to discuss and analyze his team's performance after they'd been thrashed 8-2? No, didn't think so. All fans get these days is a quick 2 minutes after the game of the same old cliched crap. The football may not have been better back in the day, but at least we had characters like Clough and managers who wouldn't throw a tantrum if they were asked a difficult question!
theWorldisYours1990 1 year ago 6
@theWorldisYours1990 couldn't agree more great manager great commentator constructive debate both missed RIP
chrissy17169 6 months ago
@theWorldisYours1990 couldn't agree more great manager great commentator constructive debate both missed RIP
chrissy17169 6 months ago
CLOUGHY IS A BOOTBOY!!!!!!!!
DysphemisticOptimist 1 year ago
A TOP MAN,WISH HE WAS STILL AROUND,FOOTBALL MISSES THE REAL GREATS.AND IM A SPURS FAN,WHO HE DESTROYED ON A REGULAR BASIS.HIS TEAM SCORED 8 AGAINST US,THEN 5 AT THE LANE IN THE CUP...SAD FOR US BUT WHAT A MANAGER
fingardner 1 year ago 2
Complete honesty from Mr.Clough.God dont we miss that now in the game?
Crap now really TBH Im trying to wean myself off.Dumped Sky for a start ,then my season ticket .Listening to this has saddened me.
helltopay1 1 year ago 3
man i wish football was like this again.Great commentators like brian moore,exciting and interesting geniuses like clough as managers and football players who played for the love of the game and the teams supporters.Not the over priced,over payed prats of today.R I P Clough and moore.
jaysea32 1 year ago 8
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C0NTR4B455 1 year ago
what I loved about brian clough is that he always came out and told the truth, the players were bad etc etc and rarely blamed anyone else except from his players. a true legend of the game and the british game wouldnt be the same but for cloughie. A sad miss for the game as a whole RIP cloughie
thebrahmabull12 1 year ago 3
Football could do with another Brian Clough. A winning manager with a personality.
AvenueQ2010 1 year ago
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WaveneyWolf 1 year ago
this video is proof that Michael Sheen's take on Clough in The Damned United was near faultless. Brian Clough was a genius, but what made him stand out was his charisma. Brilliant.
Mossface94 1 year ago
clough shouldve managed england.
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StevieJ72 1 year ago
Absolutely marvellous comment at 4.22 - talking to the camera, the Brighton fans, with a crafty grin - "no newspaper, television or anything will move us from this particular style" - played that about 10 times and I'd recommend anyone else do the same, it's addictive. :)
StevieJ72 1 year ago
a total legend. Arrogant to the core, but hell did he create a phenomenal team at Nottingham Forest, they would be streets ahead in today's pleague
yoyichinichio 2 years ago
Genius manager - copybook only blighted by his appalling treatment of Fashunu.
baboon2525 2 years ago 6
what happened?
snoopdogg99 2 years ago
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timothydaw 2 years ago
@baboon2525
and his unrepentant Hilsborough denial.
Justice for the 96 and everyone else who was there.
YNWA.
timothydaw 2 years ago
@timothydaw
Didn't know that. That's terrible.
baboon2525 2 years ago
@baboon2525
He was there with a front row view, saw us crushed and dying. He aways blamed drunk Liverpool fans despite overwhelming evidence and confessions. I know he had his own demons but his 'stance' on Hilsborough ruined his reputation for ever.
timothydaw 2 years ago
you can't blame him mate, was it his fault? Goodness, the guy was a manager, how could he have changed what happened.
illbehaviour76nz 2 years ago
it was liverpools fans fault... people didnt have tickets and snuck in... just like heysel wasnt liverpools fault eh? and in athens scouse scum didnt rob tickets from each other eh? self pity city....ye killed your own fans
joeroyjoe16 2 years ago
@joeroyjoe16 thats right,Liverpool fans at their last euro final was over twice the amount at least than the ticket allocation.Exactly the same as Hilsborough,unfortunately,they were to blame for the deaths of their own lot.
peaceman1234567 2 years ago
@peaceman1234567
Hillsborough was caused by a poor allocation of seats to Liverpool fans, poor police and steward control to navigate large numbers of people into the area, and a failure to adhere to proper health and safety standards which meant too many people were admitted to too small an area.
ElectronicAnthem 1 year ago
Bullshit.Clough may of been controversial at times but he would never of said that.Brian Clough was a football genius,until drink got the better of him.Brian Clough R.I.P
peaceman1234567 2 years ago
From his autobiography:
"I will always remain convinced that those Liverpool fans who died were killed by Liverpool people".
Definitely driven to insanity by his alcoholism, brilliant at football but ruined his reputation with this attitude.
timothydaw 2 years ago
"Even if it's their 5 against our 1... we should still have had one player marked"
legend. a man who truly knows footy
saelaird 2 years ago 4
Let's remember that Clough didn't do anything special at Brighton precisely because of his forthrightness and endless honesty. The problem was players with no ego whatsoever - pretty much the opposite to the later problems at Leeds.
His style only really worked to their fullest at 'sleeping giant' clubs. And with players primarily of 'neglected talent'.
kisbie 2 years ago
Great video. He should have never gone to Brighton.
raleighgranprix 2 years ago
@kisbie
Sleeping giants..?
Bollox.....when he took over at Derby and Forest..neither team had ever achieved anything of note..so they couldn't be referred to as giants at that time...think again dipshit.
uncleangler 1 year ago
@uncleangler Semantics aside, they were certainly better off than Brighton were before he took over, which is my real point. Besides, I'm not saying anything Cloughie himself didn't say.
kisbie 1 year ago
@kisbie forest and derby were absolutley nothing before clough he was at brighton for less than a year he was at derby 4 before they won anything
bru16 1 year ago
wish this still happened now. would be quite funny.
Noah97 2 years ago
Noah97 it IS still happening now. What about Harry Redknapp's rant about Darren Bent .."my missus could've scored that one" ? Or his nightclub ban on the hooray henry's at Spurs ? Or his rant about Pavlechenko being pschologically unsound. Or the rant about players' agents going behind his back to the chairman. Or the one about Arsenal fans being notorious for provoking opposing players to make obscene gestures towards them.
gregorykatrina 2 years ago
lol. that just sounds like Harry Redknapp has gone a bit mental tbh.
Noah97 2 years ago
what year is this?
imgoing2hellcom 2 years ago
The match took place on Saturday 1st December 1973 so I presume it will be the following day.
Kevinasp 2 years ago
Was this one of the games where Clough had a young Nigel sat next him in the dugout?
TerryNutkins80 2 years ago
Yeah
cajjer 2 years ago
I dobn't think Nigel ever played for Brighton Albion Hove. I'd say NO, that was Forest where Nigel was.
raleighgranprix 2 years ago
@raleighgranprix No, you misunderstand. There's footage of Clough sat in the dugout during one of his hammerings with Brighton and Nigel (then a young child) is sat next to him. This happened on a few occasions apparently.
TerryNutkins80 2 years ago
make no mistake...the game is a lot poorer without characters like clough
stigjig 2 years ago 9
Totally agree.
kingdaniel69 2 years ago
this guy is a ledgend and enyone who knows football knows that
CardiffCasual101 2 years ago 13
Looking for a real football legend? This is the Man . The old fashioned man who deserves a respect.
AntiRussia81 2 years ago 2
Brian Clough - what a legend. None of that chewing gum nonsense or blaming the ref. And a rare win by Rovers in a televised game!!
GasheadAli 2 years ago 4
"il ask help from anyone,even sir alf"lol legend
cornish83 2 years ago 2
God! if some manager could just talk like Clough in todays game & then go on to win things like the champions league how great it would be.
Clough had balls!
rufusandburne 2 years ago 6
Obviously Clough was a football genius, but what a gent Brian Moore was. Both are missed.
guv859 2 years ago 56
Clough & Moore deep down were very close.
martinwilliamrandall 2 years ago 4
what a great clip , thanks Keunwah... yes i agree ,, Wenger would blame the pitch and fergie would blame the fixture crowding. these were golden days of football , how i miss them!
holysmoke45 2 years ago 5
i think that has a lot to do with "player power" today... the players are big-time prima donnas, and hence managers need to protect their egos and find someone/something else to blame... yu don't seriously think rafa, mourinho, wenger and ferguson don't know when their players messed up, do ya?
jp2007ms 2 years ago
you just have to respect brian clough - what a gentleman - I'd love to see ferguson, wenger or benitez analyse one of their defeats like this - hats off!
CloudCucku 2 years ago 6
rafa usually says where shit if where shit no bones about the guy oh btw shanks would of walloped lfc players back in the 60s/70s
col06 2 years ago
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sun reading, hillsborough denying dickhead.
timothydaw 2 years ago
Clough was very dapper...bit of a Mod on the quiet. Complete legend and the game could use some more like him these days.
SteveResin 2 years ago 35
I think you'll find it was 5-1.
Handy69 2 years ago 6
Brian was ace
McEvoy2006 2 years ago 4
Two great men.
westfieldproductions 2 years ago