@kevinjjfr Ok racist bigot you only proved I'm right and you're a racist bigot. A church burning to the ground puts a big smile on my face churches are nothing but a building for for racist to gather and hopefully lock in when it burns to the ground.
@siredwolf Nice bullshit attempt but you are taking that one out of context. That was WAYYY after we had spoken about your lying and now NO....NOW I don't believe you have been in the position of deciding to abort because you are such an opinionated bitch to those that need to make their OWN choice. I think you most likely lie to bolster your OPINIONS and improper medical belief's on abortion. .
why does it seem the majority of the pro-choice protesters are male? For some reason that is incredibly ironic. And how could women who are supposedly "feminists" sit back and watch a bunch of middle aged men harass a bunch of girls... ironic.
Amazing, this gives me hope for women's rights every where.
Those holding up signs saying "women need love" are not practicing what they preach. I don't see them loving anything but their own beliefs under the guise of loving others. I may be a bit confused here but isn't judgment reserved for GOD himself? Will GOD not judge them for judging in his stead?
ya, the anti choice crowd can't handle it when it is not just one upset women or couple. They go out and scream at people in public that are making personal choices but the minute a GROUP get's together to tell them they are wrong,they call it "Harassment" They are claiming Jesus did this and that and using him like they were throwing Feces which Christians use Jesus like often. They all look and act alike.Orwellian freaks
@ihateneveen I am sorry you are mad & don't agree but your fallacy try fell as flat as your argument. Let me try a simple See Spot Run for you & the other mentally challenged with the lack of a pre frontal cortex in the crowd. These people will do the exact same things to the lone women & people& the minute the tables are turned they can;t take it.They demand their rights for the signs and yelling at women,but don;t reciprocate Look in the DSM-IV-TR and the Axis for these anti abortionist freaks
@ihateneveen Hey, it is not my fault you have reading comprehension fail.That is your lack of education,not mine. Saying you do n;'t understand because i is illogical is old and lame and done by people with no better retort. Sad and used up. Try again
@kiastar67 Yes I fail to comprehend what I read, because your shit was not cohesive, lacked proper grammar , made no sense, and wasn't backed up by any facts. That is indeed YOUR fault. Pointing out that me not understanding your moronic argument ,means there is a problem with my comprehension instead of YOUR lack of using logic, is a sad, old, lame retort by those who don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Tray again.
@ihateneveen Nice try but look again. nothing is wrong with the grammar but nice ad hominem attack by a loser like you with no retort! I guess i hit a sore post with a petulant child like you. Sweety, people that use this "argument' like you are doing usually just know they are beat. Anyone can look and see nothing is wrong with the grammar you wanna be grammar Nazi. Now, go back and stop pissing and moaning and give a factual REASON. Stop sniffing old newsprint..So funny.
@ihateneveen No, again, what is funny is that it's OBVIOUS you are wrong because you can only point to a typed i saying capitalize it? Wow, you really don't believe in your own stance. I am sorry you most likely had parents that belittled you so now you are anal retentive and miss what most people say because you are so afraid of fucking up. THAT'S funny. It is very telling that it's all you can bitch about. Hey, you know you don't believe in what you are saying so give it up. Poor thing.
@kiastar67 I know, I am so sorry that your head is so far up your ass, you cannot think straight. I am so sorry that all you can do is level personal attacks at me, instead of substantially backing up your bullshit. THAT is hilarious. I know I believe in what I am saying. I am STILL HERE bitch. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!
@ihateneveen YES,I named called you but you are doing the same thing while pretending you are not. Nice move. You are going after grammar where there is no issue and making things up. You have backed up NOTHING,cited no source yourself so again, why is it justified for you to do it and take NO culpability and tell others they are wrong? The same reason you have NO clue why you have no power over this issues,You're IMPOTENT in life with this issue. U KNOW U believe is not cited source BOI.LOL
@kiastar67 Hey! I just replied to one of your comments on another vid. FUN! ;D You know what's interesting-- growin up, I've seen both sides of this issue n, I have to say, pro-choice ppl r a lot nastier than pro-life ppl on this matter.I think it's b/c pro-choice feels like they are bein unjustly oppressed (which, at least w/me,) causes anger.The other side is moreso being protective of both kids & women who'll regret the loss of their child;n pity that they feel like it's their "only choice."
@siredwolf Don;t you tell other people how they will feel in a personal decisions.How dare you and the self righteous asshats think they be"protective" They are not doing so but they are being invasive, judgmental and HARMFUL. You have a lot fo growing to do. You and others have no ight to tell someone what they will and have to do in a situation like that. Not protective sweetheart--abusive. Usually they use the bible which they don't even understand.
@kiastar67 I'm speaking about ethics, not religion.The "protective" comes from having countless charities that take care of women w/unplanned pregnancies(ex. recent addition "Generation Hope")or post-abortive women who are sufferin emotional trauma("Rachel's Vineyard" who helped my post-abortive cousin... "pro-lifers" not abortion clinic workers who told her about that.)So, it's "abusive" for them to keep ppl from goin thru what she went thru?It's "abusive" to give women,like me, programs?
@kiastar67 Also(I almost added this comment yesterday;shouldve.)I was just sharin an observation.I WASNT TRYIN TO DEBATE U.Really,what happened to u to make u this volatile?Somethin terrible must have happened to u.I don't see any attempt(on ur part)@tryin to see the other side's point of view at all.All I see is anger along w/ stereotypin.U don't kno me & I "dare" b/c I've actually been there.It is ignorant of u to disregard my personal experience b/c Ive come to a different conclusion than u.
@siredwolf Nice try little one but I can read you like a See Spot Run book and your petulant an clumsy attempt as psychology,which I have a degree in, doesn't effect me.In fact,I would say you are projecting after reading your post, Your own words betray you on saying you have BEEN there and not seeing the side of those getting abortion..ergo..you lie.No one is "discounting" your experience until you yourself come off as a liar and unfeeling for ppl in said situation. U are very Naive
@kiastar67 Excuse me?Yes,I have been there.I've had 2 unplanned pregnancies and I do understand the,almost, primal fear that could have someone panic into an abortion.I understand feelin like ur life is over.However,these people gave me "Generation Hope" which gives $ to student mothers&other programs to help me.I have been there for my cousin who was torn apart by her abortion.I have other friends who have been thru unplanned pregnancy.Don't tell me that I have not been there.You are pathetic.
@siredwolf YOU HAVE NO BEEN THERE. If you had,you would not be talking the disgusting BS you are. Plain and simple.No one said you had not"been there" that was your own paranoid nonsense.i said you had no right to tell others how they felt or will/would feel.Try reading comprehension. You are very passive aggressive but utilize it in a childlike manner,showing how jejune and provincial you truly are. This is not about you oh self centered brat. Some people never learn,like you.
@siredwolf I can see why you removed your post.Rambling incoherent nonsense that shows you did lie and are making things up to make your "point" seem more personal. Nice try. Nice explanation of your own issues but no buying your bullshit.
@kiastar67 Again, you're pathetic and a disgrace to your cause. When someone does a counter-point to you, you insult them and say they have no credibility. When they show credibility, you accuse them of lying. You assume things that are not true to suit your own ego and try and flaunt them as fact(Ex. why I removed a post you never saw.) You also focus your efforts on insulting people and not the issue itself. Anyone who reads a conversation w/u will see this and understand that.
@siredwolf prochoice people want you to be free to do as you please with your pregnancy. prolife people want to force you to carry your pregnancy to term and give birth--thats tyranny; if being a tyrant doesnt strike you as nasty, thats your problem. if people wanted to force you to have an abortion and never give birth--you would probably be enraged.
The one pro-choicer is yelling "Triumph of the will!". It's true. The pro-abortion position is the triumph of the will over reason. We are witnessing the eclipse of reason.
It's also interesting that "The Triumph of the Will" s the name of one of the main Nazi propaganda films. It's a documentary of their 1934 Party Congress in Nuremburg and exposition of Nazi doctrine. They also advocated the disposal of human life for the convenience of others.
Look at it this way: One group of people believes the fetus is a person. A human baby. And it is begging and protesting people to NOT kill (what they understand) is a human.
The other is (strangely) boasting, yelling 'we hate you' and happy to taunt them and is fighting to allow fetus eliminations out of women's bodies.
I really don't need to know much more than that and honestly I think a few people there might need to consider fearing hell in an afterlife? What if?
@manaen1lds you fail to understand that the women who would get an abortion will get abortions whether it is illegal or not. They used to use coat hangers, harmful chemicals, and back alley doctors (not qualified) to get abortions. Legalizing just makes sure that those women get abortions from real doctors. Also what should the punishment be for the women who perform abortions if it is illegal and considered murder. Life in prison? Death penalty?
RE: "Legalizing just makes sure that those women get abortions from real doctors."
No. Apparently you fail to understand that legalizing abortion also says that our society agrees with killing our unborn children for the convenience of others.
It's like saying that street thugs sometimes are injured by their home-made weapons so we should grant them full access to professionally made ones *so that the people hurting others are not themselves hurt while they do it*.
@manaen1lds 1 the unborn child isn't alive to be killed. fertalized eggs often get rejected from the body during periods and no one crys, and we don't have funerals for miscarriages. 2 Many women are going to get abortions anyway (legal or not) so instead of letting them find some dangerous way that can end up killing or harming the women (or damaging the fetus without killing it). We have pro. Doctors making sure the whole thing is safe. Your example does not match this as it keeps no one safe.
@Daoutsida05 There is a difference between letting nature decide what the fate of the zygote is, versus deliberate killing of the unborn. Who is asking for funerals for dead fetuses here? And? Do we allow rape, torture, and murder become legal, because people are going to find a way to them anyway?
@ihateneveen There is a difference in rape, murder, etc to abortion.1) the law protects citizens (an unborn child is not a citizen). Those who murder non citizens however are considered dangers to society. Is a women who has an abortion a danger to society? 2) Murder hurts a citizen+hurts people who loved that citizen3)An unborn child is literally part of the mothers body, where as a murder is attacking someone else. When a baby can live without being physically connected, it is alive on its own
@Daoutsida05 There is a difference between those thing yes. But my point still remains, WE DO NOT ALLOW THOSE THINGS TO BECOME LEGAL JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY. THAT'S my point. A woman who has an abortion , killed an innocent human being, so she is dangerous to them. SCIENCE proves that at conception, a new human being is created. DEPENDENCY does not change this fact. And as to your whole, "it's not murder if the baby is not a citizen crap," If you shoot an illegal
@Daoutsida05 BULLSHIT. Less than 300 women died annually from illegal abortions. Besides, how many women haven't died from "safe legal abortions?" As for what happens if abortion is illegal, we let women off the hook if they can provide us with information to help prosecute the abortionists who perform the procedure. It's not like women were indicted for having illegal abortions before Roe vs Wade.
@ihateneveen Where do you get your numbers? statistics are so varied on this subject that it has been said that 70,000 people died of illegal abortions a year. I have heard some government stats even higher then that. I have also seen some countered and given lower numbers, but I've never seen any as low at 300. Facts are a bit distorted in such a hot debate, but the fact is even 300 women (which is lower then any statistic I've ever seen) should have the right to a proper doctor.
@Daoutsida05 I don't know, from people that WORKED in the abortion industry. Yes, you have heard stats higher than that, from people who LIED about those stats to repeal abortion laws, before Roe vs. Wade. I guess looking stuff up, that CHALLENGES your bias, is painful eh?
@ihateneveen Yes people lie in stats that is what I stated. My point was that even looking at anti-abortion stats I've never seen a statistic as low as 300 so I asked for source of info. I also ask what should be the punishment of a women who performs an illegal abortion if you were to make it illegal, and you say we let them off the hook? You can't let them all off the hook, only a small minority. It is like saying we let all drug dealers off the hook to catch the suppliers. Also coathangers
@Daoutsida05 I also ANSWERED your question. I got my info from former abortion activists. Bernard Nathanson, Mary Calderone, Nancy Howell Lee, etc. I can message you the links if you want. As for your second question, do your own research. How many women went to jail for illegal abortions before?
@Daoutsida05 “Repeating the big lie often enough convinces the public. The number of women dying from illegal abortions was around 200-250 annually. The figure we constantly fed to the media was 10,000. These false figures rook root in the consciousness of Americans, convincing many that we needed to crack the abortion law."
@ihateneveen How could you put one, ten, or a million embryos that could be created at any time over the life of even ONE living breathing woman with thoughts, feelings, friends, and family? Let alone 250? That's insane.
@ihateneveen No it isn't. I know what an embryo is and I know it's okay for a woman to remove one that's inside her. I have women in my life I care about. I'm sorry that you do not.
Ahhhh. this is SO typical of foaming at the mouth proaborts. They have to rely on 15 syllable chants, to make an "argument". And they say PRO-LIFERS are violent harassers, LMFAO
@ihateneveen Anyone with a brain knows that no matter how 'peaceful' the pro-lifers try to make themselves look, at the end of the day, they would rather see women to die in back alleys at the hands of their religious dogma than accept differing religious beliefs in their society. There's a reason those "pro-aborts" are angry; there are women in their lives who they care about that ring-wing assholes want oppressed and dead.
@gingerbreadcorpses What a substantial argument. Really. Very thorough, well-researched, well backed up and it shows how open minded you are. That does it! I am pro-choice now.
I don't see any harassment here, I see a group of pro-life people protesting and a group of pro-choice protesting. Except Pro-Life people are allowed to just stand outside of Planned Parenthood or any clinic without a problem, but it's not okay for Pro-Choice to hold a protest as well.
If you saw an innocent human being attacked the most human response is to protect the innocent. Abortion while hidden and 'private' is simply a mother destroying the life created within her. No excuse or reasoning can change this basic element of life. All pro-lifers thanks for living your religion.
studies have shown that societies who came out of religious verry pro life type bakrounds into pro choice in such instinces as moving out of religious rule and such
that 20 yrs after people got the ability to choes crime rates dropped
Who's harrasing who? Well the anti-abortionists harrass women on the worst day of their lives all the time throwing verbal abuse at them to make them feel worse than they already do. Wait a go morons! It has been known to drive some of these women to commit suicide because they're just selfish ignorant twats. Everyone has the right to an opinon but when it comes to human rights, there is no opinion. Everyone should have control of their own bodies.
Stooge (watcher) note the Freudian foundation of the name. Freedom to choose is what everyone wants, only those folk against it just want control. I'd say go to a 12 step program say the serenity prayer, look into yourself be honest for once. After all, once the unborn becomes born y'all seem to forget about the real life actual baby. WIC programs (the programs that feed infants) have been cut and who'd think it, the right wing is for that and against abortion! Starving babies is ok hmm?
It is absurd to argue with pro aborts! They know the baby is alive, that he or she is seperate and that by natures law the unborn child has rights. They just don't care. They are evil to the core. Some of them are just stupid followers, but they know that abortion is murder. They just don't care because it makes life easier for them. They're the most selfish people I'd never care to meet!
@patrickhenrysmom Yes and then woman also has rights. She has the right to control her own body. Let's put it this way, if abortion was made illegal, then women would be desperate and resort to backstreet abortions which is highly unsafe. Not only would the fetus die, but the mother could potentially die as well. That's two lives. Therefore the people who made abortion illegal or fought for it could be classed as 'murderers' too because they drove the woman to have an unsafe abortion.
I have a better idea!!!! Look... let's make some polls and if most of the people who are for choice haven't done something useful with their lives...let's kill them!!!! I mean... they 're just wasting their lives and keeping a place for actual they do not deserve.
Oh, and going through the "very mature" comments on the video and his channel. We're apparently racist too. How many times have they pulled that card? It's getting kind of old. And very ironic, considering PP had an openly racist founder.
This should be a video response to "Dad confronts abortion protesters", where a man yells at two pro life woman making all sorts of claims that they were harassing his wife and are basically the scum of the Earth, with out actually recording any of the said behavior, of coarse. That seems to be the hot new thing to justify abortion with out even facing the issue. If they want to play fallacy, let's not only give a counter video, but one with actual evidence as well.
why the fuck are the pro-lifers being a bunch of pussy's? Damn it's because their religious, another reason religion cripples people. HELL if I was out there being a pro-life atheist and pro-gay I would be twice as loud as the pro-deathers.
all i can say, as a pro choicer is...good for those pro lifers. My abortion expirience was horrible because of pro lifers. because of PHYSICAL pain, they threw broken doll body parts at us, degraded us...etc. A REAL prolifer will educate, will be peacfull with be a REAL christian. And there are so few of them. I may not agree with the pro life opinion but i respect the intelligent, non violent non aggressive people. And i am so glad you have your right to your opinion as i do my own.
@TheGwynnSmith...furthermore, you called women who have abortions monsters and murders. So, by your definition, a person who kills, is a murderer. So what do you call soldiers who kill innocent men, women and children by rifles, bombs or chemicals? Granted they are doing so by order of their superiors, but, like you said, taking a life is murder...
@TheGwynnSmith...so you would advocate capital punishment or life sentences for women who would have illegal abortions. If the numbers are right, then that's about 3600 a day, theoretically..so, your taxes would probably be raised to accomodate the new law. My question is, where is all this compassion for the millions of children who are born and living in squalor or foster homes waiting to be adopted? You seem more interested in the unborn instead of the born...
I am pro choice...I happen to CHOOSE life. It's not about them having the choice, you can "choose" to commit a crime, everyone has the choice but wouldn't you agree that committing a crime is bad? You still have the choice, but we have laws that make sure you are held accountable. What if the law didn't punish hate crimes, and actually said that under certain circumstances they were okay? Does that make it okay? Wake up people, use your minds; if pro-"LIFE" sounds bad to you, there's a problem.
I don't understand why anyone thinks abortion is okay...Its a fact that all abortions happen durring a time when the embryo has developed enough to feel pain. I believe women have a right to get tattoos, do anything to their own bodies they want to do. But once another being/body is involved, what gives them the right to kill that person? The people that grow inside are human beings! Its not thier fault the mother didn't protect herself. Its not the baby's fault if, horribly, she was raped!
To those who stood their ground humbly without screaming and fighting back, God bless you. God will honor your for it. For the opposing side, may God bless you as well... I pray you might understand fully the battle we are in.
To those who stood their ground humbly without screaming and fighting back, God bless you. God will honor your for it. For the opposing side, may God bless you as well... I pray you might understand fully the battle we are in.
You don't know the Constitution very well. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. The majority clearly rules this country. The House needs a majority vote to pass a bill. The Senate needs a super majority or 60 votes to pass a bill. The majority rules. What you said about the constitution is wrong and you know it is wrong because you never cited what part of the constitution you were referencing. Think twice before trying to twist the constitution.
@with33 haha, which ones. or both sides? Not everyone's goal in life is to look pretty enough to deserve getting "fucked." Haha. I found this to be an odd comment...
@omi3dov3 So just in this system happens something like this: Jerks taking initiative.... and Jerks supporting Jerks.... Such a symbiosis we got here!!!!
@with33 How clever u are my friend!!!! I'm surprised —I strongly believe that your whole brain cells were working by the time you spit something like this....anyways....What we could do to someone who is deceiving himself by believing he is handsome or at least clever???
less than 1% of women who have abortions are due to a combination of reasons like rape, incest, or potential harm to the pregnant mother. seems like some people need to do their research.
@with33 My question....Why weren't your mother an activist pro-choice???? Hahahahaa how ironic could be this. Sadly you're here thinking in the most stupid way a human being could allow himself to think about...
@audreypaudrey212 False. More than half of women who are raped ever report the rape so your statistic is completely faulty. There is no way to report that as fact.
A woman had a question. With no where else to turn, she goes to a church and a preist was there. She asked ''Father, why is there no cure for cancer." He said that he would pray to god for the answer. A week passes and the woman comes back. She says "What did God say Father?" and he said "There was a cure but, the person who had it was aborted."
a friend of mine got pregnant from a guy who was a jerk or whatever and he litterally moved across the country.. she thought about abortion for a while.. finally she decided to have the baby.. she was so poor and struggled the whole time.. that was 16 years ago.. the child is named Marcus and he has won 9 spelling bee titles and takes college level math.. on top of that the little dude can hit a curveball!!! God is so good.. Mercy is the strongest thing in the world.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Yes, we have the ability and the right to choose, but choose what? Life or death? Sin or righteousness?
A man kills his wife for not making his supper on time. If I were to tell you that his actions are seriously wrong, you probably wouldn't object. But if I were to tell you that a woman killed her child because the child exists, you advocate it. Is that being consistent?
@10dan9 Okay then, so let's say a child is conceived by a woman whom wouldn't be able to feed it sufficiently along with herself. Homeless women. Or women that genuinely do not want children. Is being born into poverty, suffering, potential neglect and abuse, REALLY worth defending a non-developed embryo that all women bleed out every month if it's not fertilized, regardless if they want to or not? Then what should be the punishment for abortions, if it's so-called murder?
@RyleyAshford As for that last question, why are you asking me that? I'm not qualified to answer that question. You are dodging the issue. The issue is whether or not the fetus in the womb is a human being from the moment of conception; all scientific evidence shows that it is. If the fetus in teh womb is a human being, then it is protected by the constitution. Just because a few lives might not be worth living, doesn't give anyone the right to commit murder on a whim.
@10dan9 Well, DUH it's a human, but that type of generalization wouldn't fly for every argument Christians or prolife groups put out. It's not gonna be a dog, but consider this: the value of a human being, to the state, is its potential. A fetus has potential; the legally-aborted EMBRYOS, which have not reached humanoid developement (no legs, arms, not even a functioning brain), do not. To be totally honest, I'd rather abort a child of mine if it'd keep them from suffering in life indefinitely.
You basically just admitted you have no idea what you're talking about if you are comparing a mother killing her child to abortion.
In the case of abortion, the fetus is unwanted and only dies because the fetus is removed from its host. That is why abortion is illegal once a fetus becomes viable (Able to survive outside of the womb).
Simply put, its the woman's right to remove the fetus if she wants because the fetus has no right to lay claim to the woman's body.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur A mother killing her child is exactly what abortion is. Define "child": "A son or daughter, an offspring." (The American College Dictionary definition 4). How is that not the fetus in the womb? Because the fetus isn't human? Where is the scientific evidence for that statement and if its not human then what is it, a lump of cells? No honest scientist advocates that view today. We have no reason to suspect that the fetus is not a human.
"A mother killing her child is exactly what abortion is. Define "child": "A son or daughter, an offspring."
Yes but your statement was too broad since it could also mean a woman who kills her 9 year old daughter. The difference is that a fetus before viability is VERY different than a newborn infant for multiple reasons.
I was simply preventing you from continuing with an equivocation fallacy by disallowing you to make a broad claim.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Well, how is it that the child can't use the woman's body, but the woman can freely butcher the child? The question isn't whether or not the woman wants the child, the question is whether or not the fetus is a child. If it is, then it is protected by the highest law in the land. If it is a human being then killing it is murder and murder is always wrong, unless in self-defense.
Do you think that if a 9 year old child needed a blood transfusion from its mother to survive and she was the only option for that child's survival do you think the woman should be legally obligated to spend 9 months keeping her child alive or else face criminal charges for murder?
If your answer is yes. You are an enemy of human rights.
If your answer is no, then you need to provide a reason why an unborn fetus should get more rights than a child with thoughts, feelings and friends.
@mikeandbone So, your sister was strong and persisted to have this bastard child whom grew into a great, smart, awesome kid that's going to make a difference; out of their OWN EFFORTS, and you're going to thank your god for that? Do not thank your god for what people do. Your sister is the hero in this, she made the decision to have her son, and her son earned all of that skill on his own. It's people like you that're the reason the world hates us: ignorant.
@RyleyAshford your ignorant.. you need to bow down to something greater than yourself.. you thank the creator for the creations.. creation=purpose. good luck though im sure someone is praying for you.. but you im sure could care less.
@mikeandbone Dude, seriously? Go fuck yourself. That whole "you HAVE to believe in SOMETHING!" argument is so overdone and pointless! I bow to nobody, not even my caretakers. I RESPECT my caretakers, but I don't believe in anything science can't prove or theorize in a manner that seems plausible. Your God is about as implausible as it gets.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur It means that they stink, and that they need to be arrested if they are doing anything unlawful. Oh, and a little rear kicking in the process would prbly do them some good too.
Seems to me what they are doing isn't unlawful in their country if the police aren't getting involved or if it is the police obviously think the christians are the bigger douchebags for trying take away a woman's liberty to choose.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur You're only being douchey if you are bugging someone else in a way that is against the law. Just standing there on the sidewalk with a sign or praying or whatever isn't against the law. Now, if they were blocking the way, or screaming, or something like that, it would be. I don't know, but it seems that the counter protesting goons here have little to no life. Just by lookin at them you can see it.
All i'm saying is it appears that in this country the christian's views are poisonous. It seems popular opinion is very hostile to their ideas and for damn good reason!! They are attempting to legislate a control on women and THAT is way worse then being hit with a plastic bottle or shouted at with vitriol.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Yeah, i see your point. But, your view is not really as popular as you think. Over 50% of the US view themselves as Pro-Life now. And, if you regard what is in a woman's body as a separate life, as science clearly show it is, then that little life has rights too. So, the woman then has some responsibility since we are talking about an actual living person that has a heartbeat and brainwaves. Best case scenario is this: don't doink around and get knocked up n da 1st place.
The constitution clearly states that the rights of the minority are protected from the will of the majority even if its 99% pro life i don't care.
If an unwanted child has a right to use the mother's body against her will because it is a separate entity does that mean she also has an obligation to give a blood transfusion to a stranger who needs it to survive?
Think about that for a few minutes before you reply. The point is that the child has no right to use the woman's body.
How about a reference to where in the Constitution that is?
Which article is it in or is it one of the 27 Amendments?
The child did not choose to be conceived the mother and the father chose to conceive the child by having sex. Either planned or accidental they both had sex knowing that pregnancy was a possible outcome of there actions.
The CHOICE to have sex without a contraceptive causes pregnancy, so the answer is murder, not taking responsibility for one's actions?
Just because you have sex doesn't mean you choose to have a child. The point is the unborn has no more right to lay claim to the mother's body than anyone else. If the child isn't wanted the mother has the right to refuse the child the right to use her body.
I think if someone has the nerve to try to take away a woman's right to choose they deserve a punch in the face. I'm not cool with people forcing their morality on other people, and neither are the protesters in this video.
How am i forcing anything on anyone by holding the OPINION that people that take other people's rights away deserve none of their own (IE, the right to NOT get punched in the face)?
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Granted, you are not forcing your opinion on me, but people who share your opinion are actively forcing it on the unborn, and thats where it counts.
It means they are intolerant to differing opinions and are bigoted and are shameless.
I love how you defend these protesters and there tasteless acts but are willing to slam there opponents being belittled and insulted for peacefully showing support for there beliefs.
I guess that Nixon philosophy of that any means are justifiable if the cause it worth it was adapted by the liberals in whole heart.
If you honestly think that is what i said in my previous statement i can only ask you to stop dragging your knuckles like an insipid ape, and if you were trying to strawman what i said i'd like to ask you to go fuck yourself.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur and i get the feeling your dinner table is full of haterd and name calling.. but your pro choice so you will probably find a way to back out of that too.
This video was awesome! It's about time pro-choice supporters were heard.
tra1215 1 month ago
@tra1215 Right, so the world can see how stupid they are!
kevinjjfr 1 month ago
@kevinjjfr You're right anti-choice people are drolling raving lunatics
wiccanmoonman 1 month ago
@wiccanmoonman Said the Mass Murderer.....Fucking insanity your people support. Even Hitchens's called you people insane morons.
kevinjjfr 1 month ago
@kevinjjfr Who's You people fucking racist.
wiccanmoonman 1 month ago
@wiccanmoonman Pro-Choice.
If you call me a racist because i'm Pro-Life your a moron, and i invite you to find out where PP does most of their abortions. BLACK neighborhoods.
kevinjjfr 1 month ago
@kevinjjfr Ok racist bigot you only proved I'm right and you're a racist bigot. A church burning to the ground puts a big smile on my face churches are nothing but a building for for racist to gather and hopefully lock in when it burns to the ground.
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wiccanmoonman 1 month ago
Very good video. And very wise protest. The Catholics are obviously not the hateful, angry, people.
ajmacdonaldjr 2 months ago
2:19 "Bigots Go Home"
xD Little does he realize that he is a bigot...
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor little do you realize that you are an idiot...
payasoinfeliz 1 month ago
@payasoinfeliz Little do you realize that you are unaware of the definition of bigot...
SuburbiaSurvivor 1 month ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor little do you realize youre an idiot...
payasoinfeliz 1 month ago
@payasoinfeliz What a shame :/
SuburbiaSurvivor 1 month ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor your birth was a shame
payasoinfeliz 3 weeks ago
@payasoinfeliz Ahhhh, I love you :) A clever troll! They are incredibly hard to find. Congratulations on being awesome.
SuburbiaSurvivor 3 weeks ago
Hell was created for liberals.
RepentAmerica454 3 months ago
@siredwolf Nice bullshit attempt but you are taking that one out of context. That was WAYYY after we had spoken about your lying and now NO....NOW I don't believe you have been in the position of deciding to abort because you are such an opinionated bitch to those that need to make their OWN choice. I think you most likely lie to bolster your OPINIONS and improper medical belief's on abortion. .
kiastar67 4 months ago
Protesters are stupid. And abortion is murder. Goddamn hippies, go fuck yourselves
DJBrokenHigh 5 months ago
The pro-lifers aren't very creative are they?
Kaynahugs 5 months ago
why does it seem the majority of the pro-choice protesters are male? For some reason that is incredibly ironic. And how could women who are supposedly "feminists" sit back and watch a bunch of middle aged men harass a bunch of girls... ironic.
TheDSPsphinx 6 months ago
Haha own those stupid fundies!
gingerbreadcorpses 6 months ago
@gingerbreadcorpses LMFAO! Keep dreaming
ihateneveen 6 months ago
Amazing, this gives me hope for women's rights every where.
Those holding up signs saying "women need love" are not practicing what they preach. I don't see them loving anything but their own beliefs under the guise of loving others. I may be a bit confused here but isn't judgment reserved for GOD himself? Will GOD not judge them for judging in his stead?
ohmygoth4 7 months ago
@ohmygoth4 How are they not practicing what they preach?
ihateneveen 6 months ago
ya, the anti choice crowd can't handle it when it is not just one upset women or couple. They go out and scream at people in public that are making personal choices but the minute a GROUP get's together to tell them they are wrong,they call it "Harassment" They are claiming Jesus did this and that and using him like they were throwing Feces which Christians use Jesus like often. They all look and act alike.Orwellian freaks
kiastar67 7 months ago
@kiastar67 LMFAO is this an actual ARGUMENT?
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen I am sorry you are mad & don't agree but your fallacy try fell as flat as your argument. Let me try a simple See Spot Run for you & the other mentally challenged with the lack of a pre frontal cortex in the crowd. These people will do the exact same things to the lone women & people& the minute the tables are turned they can;t take it.They demand their rights for the signs and yelling at women,but don;t reciprocate Look in the DSM-IV-TR and the Axis for these anti abortionist freaks
kiastar67 6 months ago
@kiastar67 What the hell are you talking about? You are going to make a nonsensical argument, and preach to ME about logic? Ha.ha.
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen Hey, it is not my fault you have reading comprehension fail.That is your lack of education,not mine. Saying you do n;'t understand because i is illogical is old and lame and done by people with no better retort. Sad and used up. Try again
kiastar67 6 months ago
@kiastar67 Yes I fail to comprehend what I read, because your shit was not cohesive, lacked proper grammar , made no sense, and wasn't backed up by any facts. That is indeed YOUR fault. Pointing out that me not understanding your moronic argument ,means there is a problem with my comprehension instead of YOUR lack of using logic, is a sad, old, lame retort by those who don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Tray again.
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen Try, misspell on my part- I am only human.
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen Nice try but look again. nothing is wrong with the grammar but nice ad hominem attack by a loser like you with no retort! I guess i hit a sore post with a petulant child like you. Sweety, people that use this "argument' like you are doing usually just know they are beat. Anyone can look and see nothing is wrong with the grammar you wanna be grammar Nazi. Now, go back and stop pissing and moaning and give a factual REASON. Stop sniffing old newsprint..So funny.
kiastar67 6 months ago
@kiastar67 I is capitalized by the way. :) SO FUNNY !
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen No, again, what is funny is that it's OBVIOUS you are wrong because you can only point to a typed i saying capitalize it? Wow, you really don't believe in your own stance. I am sorry you most likely had parents that belittled you so now you are anal retentive and miss what most people say because you are so afraid of fucking up. THAT'S funny. It is very telling that it's all you can bitch about. Hey, you know you don't believe in what you are saying so give it up. Poor thing.
kiastar67 6 months ago
@kiastar67 I know, I am so sorry that your head is so far up your ass, you cannot think straight. I am so sorry that all you can do is level personal attacks at me, instead of substantially backing up your bullshit. THAT is hilarious. I know I believe in what I am saying. I am STILL HERE bitch. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen YES,I named called you but you are doing the same thing while pretending you are not. Nice move. You are going after grammar where there is no issue and making things up. You have backed up NOTHING,cited no source yourself so again, why is it justified for you to do it and take NO culpability and tell others they are wrong? The same reason you have NO clue why you have no power over this issues,You're IMPOTENT in life with this issue. U KNOW U believe is not cited source BOI.LOL
kiastar67 6 months ago
@kiastar67 Hey! I just replied to one of your comments on another vid. FUN! ;D You know what's interesting-- growin up, I've seen both sides of this issue n, I have to say, pro-choice ppl r a lot nastier than pro-life ppl on this matter.I think it's b/c pro-choice feels like they are bein unjustly oppressed (which, at least w/me,) causes anger.The other side is moreso being protective of both kids & women who'll regret the loss of their child;n pity that they feel like it's their "only choice."
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@siredwolf Don;t you tell other people how they will feel in a personal decisions.How dare you and the self righteous asshats think they be"protective" They are not doing so but they are being invasive, judgmental and HARMFUL. You have a lot fo growing to do. You and others have no ight to tell someone what they will and have to do in a situation like that. Not protective sweetheart--abusive. Usually they use the bible which they don't even understand.
kiastar67 4 months ago
@kiastar67 I'm speaking about ethics, not religion.The "protective" comes from having countless charities that take care of women w/unplanned pregnancies(ex. recent addition "Generation Hope")or post-abortive women who are sufferin emotional trauma("Rachel's Vineyard" who helped my post-abortive cousin... "pro-lifers" not abortion clinic workers who told her about that.)So, it's "abusive" for them to keep ppl from goin thru what she went thru?It's "abusive" to give women,like me, programs?
siredwolf 4 months ago
@kiastar67 Also(I almost added this comment yesterday;shouldve.)I was just sharin an observation.I WASNT TRYIN TO DEBATE U.Really,what happened to u to make u this volatile?Somethin terrible must have happened to u.I don't see any attempt(on ur part)@tryin to see the other side's point of view at all.All I see is anger along w/ stereotypin.U don't kno me & I "dare" b/c I've actually been there.It is ignorant of u to disregard my personal experience b/c Ive come to a different conclusion than u.
siredwolf 4 months ago
@siredwolf Nice try little one but I can read you like a See Spot Run book and your petulant an clumsy attempt as psychology,which I have a degree in, doesn't effect me.In fact,I would say you are projecting after reading your post, Your own words betray you on saying you have BEEN there and not seeing the side of those getting abortion..ergo..you lie.No one is "discounting" your experience until you yourself come off as a liar and unfeeling for ppl in said situation. U are very Naive
kiastar67 4 months ago
@kiastar67 Excuse me?Yes,I have been there.I've had 2 unplanned pregnancies and I do understand the,almost, primal fear that could have someone panic into an abortion.I understand feelin like ur life is over.However,these people gave me "Generation Hope" which gives $ to student mothers&other programs to help me.I have been there for my cousin who was torn apart by her abortion.I have other friends who have been thru unplanned pregnancy.Don't tell me that I have not been there.You are pathetic.
siredwolf 4 months ago
@siredwolf YOU HAVE NO BEEN THERE. If you had,you would not be talking the disgusting BS you are. Plain and simple.No one said you had not"been there" that was your own paranoid nonsense.i said you had no right to tell others how they felt or will/would feel.Try reading comprehension. You are very passive aggressive but utilize it in a childlike manner,showing how jejune and provincial you truly are. This is not about you oh self centered brat. Some people never learn,like you.
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siredwolf 4 months ago
@siredwolf I can see why you removed your post.Rambling incoherent nonsense that shows you did lie and are making things up to make your "point" seem more personal. Nice try. Nice explanation of your own issues but no buying your bullshit.
kiastar67 4 months ago
@kiastar67 Again, you're pathetic and a disgrace to your cause. When someone does a counter-point to you, you insult them and say they have no credibility. When they show credibility, you accuse them of lying. You assume things that are not true to suit your own ego and try and flaunt them as fact(Ex. why I removed a post you never saw.) You also focus your efforts on insulting people and not the issue itself. Anyone who reads a conversation w/u will see this and understand that.
siredwolf 4 months ago
@kiastar67 "No one said you had not 'been there'..." Except for you. "YOU HAVE NO BEEN THERE."
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siredwolf 4 months ago
@siredwolf prochoice people want you to be free to do as you please with your pregnancy. prolife people want to force you to carry your pregnancy to term and give birth--thats tyranny; if being a tyrant doesnt strike you as nasty, thats your problem. if people wanted to force you to have an abortion and never give birth--you would probably be enraged.
payasoinfeliz 1 month ago
The one pro-choicer is yelling "Triumph of the will!". It's true. The pro-abortion position is the triumph of the will over reason. We are witnessing the eclipse of reason.
TheHardout2005 7 months ago
@TheHardout2005
It's also interesting that "The Triumph of the Will" s the name of one of the main Nazi propaganda films. It's a documentary of their 1934 Party Congress in Nuremburg and exposition of Nazi doctrine. They also advocated the disposal of human life for the convenience of others.
Check "Triumph of the Will" on Wikipedia
manaen1lds 7 months ago
@manaen1lds That is interesting! Eugenics didn't die - it was just rebranded.
TheHardout2005 7 months ago
Look at it this way: One group of people believes the fetus is a person. A human baby. And it is begging and protesting people to NOT kill (what they understand) is a human.
The other is (strangely) boasting, yelling 'we hate you' and happy to taunt them and is fighting to allow fetus eliminations out of women's bodies.
I really don't need to know much more than that and honestly I think a few people there might need to consider fearing hell in an afterlife? What if?
ElProximo 8 months ago
WOW, LOOK AT THE PRO-CHOICE BULLIES!
carmel350 8 months ago
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the people harrassing the prolifers will have to awnser to god one day
kt3915 8 months ago
the people harrassing the prolifers will have to awnser to go one day
kt3915 8 months ago
"you don't care if women die" -- the women who *chose* to risk their lives????
My answer is that the baby killed should be allowed the choice the same choice!
manaen1lds 8 months ago
@manaen1lds you fail to understand that the women who would get an abortion will get abortions whether it is illegal or not. They used to use coat hangers, harmful chemicals, and back alley doctors (not qualified) to get abortions. Legalizing just makes sure that those women get abortions from real doctors. Also what should the punishment be for the women who perform abortions if it is illegal and considered murder. Life in prison? Death penalty?
Daoutsida05 7 months ago
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RE: "Legalizing just makes sure that those women get abortions from real doctors."
No. Apparently you fail to understand that legalizing abortion also says that our society agrees with killing our unborn children for the convenience of others.
It's like saying that street thugs sometimes are injured by their home-made weapons so we should grant them full access to professionally made ones *so that the people hurting others are not themselves hurt while they do it*.
manaen1lds 7 months ago
@manaen1lds 1 the unborn child isn't alive to be killed. fertalized eggs often get rejected from the body during periods and no one crys, and we don't have funerals for miscarriages. 2 Many women are going to get abortions anyway (legal or not) so instead of letting them find some dangerous way that can end up killing or harming the women (or damaging the fetus without killing it). We have pro. Doctors making sure the whole thing is safe. Your example does not match this as it keeps no one safe.
Daoutsida05 7 months ago
@Daoutsida05 There is a difference between letting nature decide what the fate of the zygote is, versus deliberate killing of the unborn. Who is asking for funerals for dead fetuses here? And? Do we allow rape, torture, and murder become legal, because people are going to find a way to them anyway?
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen There is a difference in rape, murder, etc to abortion.1) the law protects citizens (an unborn child is not a citizen). Those who murder non citizens however are considered dangers to society. Is a women who has an abortion a danger to society? 2) Murder hurts a citizen+hurts people who loved that citizen3)An unborn child is literally part of the mothers body, where as a murder is attacking someone else. When a baby can live without being physically connected, it is alive on its own
Daoutsida05 6 months ago
@Daoutsida05 There is a difference between those thing yes. But my point still remains, WE DO NOT ALLOW THOSE THINGS TO BECOME LEGAL JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY. THAT'S my point. A woman who has an abortion , killed an innocent human being, so she is dangerous to them. SCIENCE proves that at conception, a new human being is created. DEPENDENCY does not change this fact. And as to your whole, "it's not murder if the baby is not a citizen crap," If you shoot an illegal
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen immigrant, is it not murder because that person is not a citizen?
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@Daoutsida05 BULLSHIT. Less than 300 women died annually from illegal abortions. Besides, how many women haven't died from "safe legal abortions?" As for what happens if abortion is illegal, we let women off the hook if they can provide us with information to help prosecute the abortionists who perform the procedure. It's not like women were indicted for having illegal abortions before Roe vs Wade.
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen Where do you get your numbers? statistics are so varied on this subject that it has been said that 70,000 people died of illegal abortions a year. I have heard some government stats even higher then that. I have also seen some countered and given lower numbers, but I've never seen any as low at 300. Facts are a bit distorted in such a hot debate, but the fact is even 300 women (which is lower then any statistic I've ever seen) should have the right to a proper doctor.
Daoutsida05 6 months ago
@Daoutsida05 I don't know, from people that WORKED in the abortion industry. Yes, you have heard stats higher than that, from people who LIED about those stats to repeal abortion laws, before Roe vs. Wade. I guess looking stuff up, that CHALLENGES your bias, is painful eh?
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen Yes people lie in stats that is what I stated. My point was that even looking at anti-abortion stats I've never seen a statistic as low as 300 so I asked for source of info. I also ask what should be the punishment of a women who performs an illegal abortion if you were to make it illegal, and you say we let them off the hook? You can't let them all off the hook, only a small minority. It is like saying we let all drug dealers off the hook to catch the suppliers. Also coathangers
Daoutsida05 6 months ago
@Daoutsida05 I also ANSWERED your question. I got my info from former abortion activists. Bernard Nathanson, Mary Calderone, Nancy Howell Lee, etc. I can message you the links if you want. As for your second question, do your own research. How many women went to jail for illegal abortions before?
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@Daoutsida05 “Repeating the big lie often enough convinces the public. The number of women dying from illegal abortions was around 200-250 annually. The figure we constantly fed to the media was 10,000. These false figures rook root in the consciousness of Americans, convincing many that we needed to crack the abortion law."
Bernard Nathanson
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen How could you put one, ten, or a million embryos that could be created at any time over the life of even ONE living breathing woman with thoughts, feelings, friends, and family? Let alone 250? That's insane.
gingerbreadcorpses 6 months ago
@gingerbreadcorpses Blame a little thing called SCIENCE. It's a bitch isn't it?
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen No it isn't. I know what an embryo is and I know it's okay for a woman to remove one that's inside her. I have women in my life I care about. I'm sorry that you do not.
gingerbreadcorpses 6 months ago
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@gingerbreadcorpses I do care about women. I care about their human right to be born. Sorry YOU do NOT.
ihateneveen 6 months ago
Ahhhh. this is SO typical of foaming at the mouth proaborts. They have to rely on 15 syllable chants, to make an "argument". And they say PRO-LIFERS are violent harassers, LMFAO
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen Anyone with a brain knows that no matter how 'peaceful' the pro-lifers try to make themselves look, at the end of the day, they would rather see women to die in back alleys at the hands of their religious dogma than accept differing religious beliefs in their society. There's a reason those "pro-aborts" are angry; there are women in their lives who they care about that ring-wing assholes want oppressed and dead.
gingerbreadcorpses 6 months ago
@gingerbreadcorpses What a substantial argument. Really. Very thorough, well-researched, well backed up and it shows how open minded you are. That does it! I am pro-choice now.
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen I know, thank you! Glad I could show you the light.
gingerbreadcorpses 6 months ago
I don't see any harassment here, I see a group of pro-life people protesting and a group of pro-choice protesting. Except Pro-Life people are allowed to just stand outside of Planned Parenthood or any clinic without a problem, but it's not okay for Pro-Choice to hold a protest as well.
breemystic 9 months ago
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funnytoni 9 months ago
If you saw an innocent human being attacked the most human response is to protect the innocent. Abortion while hidden and 'private' is simply a mother destroying the life created within her. No excuse or reasoning can change this basic element of life. All pro-lifers thanks for living your religion.
phoenixdrive1973 9 months ago
pro-lifers always look like they never got laid... isnt this somehow funnay? -.-
DuellMeNoob 9 months ago
@DuellMeNoob CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO "ECLIPSE OF REASON" ABORTION DOCUMENTARY.
carmel350 8 months ago
these pro-aborts are just plane mean (as usual)
CanadienCannon 9 months ago
Abortion what a beautiful word
HowardSternn 9 months ago
studies have shown that societies who came out of religious verry pro life type bakrounds into pro choice in such instinces as moving out of religious rule and such
that 20 yrs after people got the ability to choes crime rates dropped
and thats not a co incidance
camfukinrules 9 months ago
good job take that pro life
JoshuaTheAtheist 10 months ago
I'm with the red shirts.
whatupyoism 10 months ago
Who's harrasing who? Well the anti-abortionists harrass women on the worst day of their lives all the time throwing verbal abuse at them to make them feel worse than they already do. Wait a go morons! It has been known to drive some of these women to commit suicide because they're just selfish ignorant twats. Everyone has the right to an opinon but when it comes to human rights, there is no opinion. Everyone should have control of their own bodies.
sunderlandgrl 10 months ago
Stooge (watcher) note the Freudian foundation of the name. Freedom to choose is what everyone wants, only those folk against it just want control. I'd say go to a 12 step program say the serenity prayer, look into yourself be honest for once. After all, once the unborn becomes born y'all seem to forget about the real life actual baby. WIC programs (the programs that feed infants) have been cut and who'd think it, the right wing is for that and against abortion! Starving babies is ok hmm?
safedawn 10 months ago
It is absurd to argue with pro aborts! They know the baby is alive, that he or she is seperate and that by natures law the unborn child has rights. They just don't care. They are evil to the core. Some of them are just stupid followers, but they know that abortion is murder. They just don't care because it makes life easier for them. They're the most selfish people I'd never care to meet!
patrickhenrysmom 10 months ago
@patrickhenrysmom Yes and then woman also has rights. She has the right to control her own body. Let's put it this way, if abortion was made illegal, then women would be desperate and resort to backstreet abortions which is highly unsafe. Not only would the fetus die, but the mother could potentially die as well. That's two lives. Therefore the people who made abortion illegal or fought for it could be classed as 'murderers' too because they drove the woman to have an unsafe abortion.
sunderlandgrl 10 months ago
Two groups of overly zealous people arguing through completely incompatible mediums how absurd.
PopeOnArope123 11 months ago
Silly Christians. Free will. I have it. You can't take it away.
kitsunefoxfyre 1 year ago
My goshhh how stupid and complex human being can be!!!
tinyavan 1 year ago
I have a better idea!!!! Look... let's make some polls and if most of the people who are for choice haven't done something useful with their lives...let's kill them!!!! I mean... they 're just wasting their lives and keeping a place for actual they do not deserve.
And allow other lives to get their own chance.
tinyavan 1 year ago
I'm glad the faces of evil were wearing black shirts.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal You mean the faces of freedom.
CamillaCalamity 1 year ago
@CamillaCalamity no. that's not what I meant.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
Oh, and going through the "very mature" comments on the video and his channel. We're apparently racist too. How many times have they pulled that card? It's getting kind of old. And very ironic, considering PP had an openly racist founder.
UndergroundCar2nist 1 year ago
This should be a video response to "Dad confronts abortion protesters", where a man yells at two pro life woman making all sorts of claims that they were harassing his wife and are basically the scum of the Earth, with out actually recording any of the said behavior, of coarse. That seems to be the hot new thing to justify abortion with out even facing the issue. If they want to play fallacy, let's not only give a counter video, but one with actual evidence as well.
UndergroundCar2nist 1 year ago
1:39 no chance of her ever needing abortion rights.
JoeJC 1 year ago
What about the first amendment - is that another right that only applies to the Left?
MrGayKieran 1 year ago
You don't care if women die? Well, that's ironic, seeing as Planned Parenthood has admitted that abortion is scientific murder.
This is so sad and disgusting.
retownsend 1 year ago
Well it is obviously the pro-abortion people. But I must also say the camera man only depicted the ugly deeds of the pro-abortion people.
PopuleMeus0824 1 year ago
They had some clever chants.
MyPaperBleedsInk 1 year ago
Of course those kids in red shirts are Pro-Life... No one wants to fuck them in the first place.
ghabib80 1 year ago
why the fuck are the pro-lifers being a bunch of pussy's? Damn it's because their religious, another reason religion cripples people. HELL if I was out there being a pro-life atheist and pro-gay I would be twice as loud as the pro-deathers.
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Of course those kids in red shirts are Pro-Life... No one wants to fuck them in the first place.
ghabib80 1 year ago
all i can say, as a pro choicer is...good for those pro lifers. My abortion expirience was horrible because of pro lifers. because of PHYSICAL pain, they threw broken doll body parts at us, degraded us...etc. A REAL prolifer will educate, will be peacfull with be a REAL christian. And there are so few of them. I may not agree with the pro life opinion but i respect the intelligent, non violent non aggressive people. And i am so glad you have your right to your opinion as i do my own.
lambchopclmt 1 year ago
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margiejooby 1 year ago
You hippies called our troops baby killers. Who are the baby killers now?
DirectorJassen 1 year ago
@TheGwynnSmith...furthermore, you called women who have abortions monsters and murders. So, by your definition, a person who kills, is a murderer. So what do you call soldiers who kill innocent men, women and children by rifles, bombs or chemicals? Granted they are doing so by order of their superiors, but, like you said, taking a life is murder...
jakeelee904 1 year ago
@TheGwynnSmith...so you would advocate capital punishment or life sentences for women who would have illegal abortions. If the numbers are right, then that's about 3600 a day, theoretically..so, your taxes would probably be raised to accomodate the new law. My question is, where is all this compassion for the millions of children who are born and living in squalor or foster homes waiting to be adopted? You seem more interested in the unborn instead of the born...
jakeelee904 1 year ago
I am pro choice...I happen to CHOOSE life. It's not about them having the choice, you can "choose" to commit a crime, everyone has the choice but wouldn't you agree that committing a crime is bad? You still have the choice, but we have laws that make sure you are held accountable. What if the law didn't punish hate crimes, and actually said that under certain circumstances they were okay? Does that make it okay? Wake up people, use your minds; if pro-"LIFE" sounds bad to you, there's a problem.
ataraxy729 1 year ago
I don't understand why anyone thinks abortion is okay...Its a fact that all abortions happen durring a time when the embryo has developed enough to feel pain. I believe women have a right to get tattoos, do anything to their own bodies they want to do. But once another being/body is involved, what gives them the right to kill that person? The people that grow inside are human beings! Its not thier fault the mother didn't protect herself. Its not the baby's fault if, horribly, she was raped!
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To those who stood their ground humbly without screaming and fighting back, God bless you. God will honor your for it. For the opposing side, may God bless you as well... I pray you might understand fully the battle we are in.
Lyndz721 1 year ago
To those who stood their ground humbly without screaming and fighting back, God bless you. God will honor your for it. For the opposing side, may God bless you as well... I pray you might understand fully the battle we are in.
Lyndz721 1 year ago
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omi3dov3 1 year ago
@Jetpack
You don't know the Constitution very well. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. The majority clearly rules this country. The House needs a majority vote to pass a bill. The Senate needs a super majority or 60 votes to pass a bill. The majority rules. What you said about the constitution is wrong and you know it is wrong because you never cited what part of the constitution you were referencing. Think twice before trying to twist the constitution.
charlesanthonyhall 1 year ago
@with33 wow thats mature. and hilarious. how about you go back to your moms basement and have a good ol time with your hand and a magazine... idiot.
audreypaudrey212 1 year ago
funny how all these girls are ugly and probly never have bin fucked
with33 1 year ago
@with33 haha, which ones. or both sides? Not everyone's goal in life is to look pretty enough to deserve getting "fucked." Haha. I found this to be an odd comment...
omi3dov3 1 year ago
@omi3dov3 only ugly people say they dont care if there hot enough toget fucked
oh and penis spooge!
with33 1 year ago
@omi3dov3 So just in this system happens something like this: Jerks taking initiative.... and Jerks supporting Jerks.... Such a symbiosis we got here!!!!
tinyavan 1 year ago
@with33 How clever u are my friend!!!! I'm surprised —I strongly believe that your whole brain cells were working by the time you spit something like this....anyways....What we could do to someone who is deceiving himself by believing he is handsome or at least clever???
tinyavan 1 year ago
"pro life is a lie, you dont care if women die"
less than 1% of women who have abortions are due to a combination of reasons like rape, incest, or potential harm to the pregnant mother. seems like some people need to do their research.
audreypaudrey212 1 year ago
@audreypaudrey212 i watched an abortion onetime got me nice and hard in the pants
=)
with33 1 year ago
@with33 your an idiot why would you say something like that?
abbster150 1 year ago
@with33 My question....Why weren't your mother an activist pro-choice???? Hahahahaa how ironic could be this. Sadly you're here thinking in the most stupid way a human being could allow himself to think about...
tinyavan 1 year ago
@audreypaudrey212 False. More than half of women who are raped ever report the rape so your statistic is completely faulty. There is no way to report that as fact.
lambchopclmt 1 year ago
A woman had a question. With no where else to turn, she goes to a church and a preist was there. She asked ''Father, why is there no cure for cancer." He said that he would pray to god for the answer. A week passes and the woman comes back. She says "What did God say Father?" and he said "There was a cure but, the person who had it was aborted."
tritic16 1 year ago
@tritic16 I know two people who have cured themselves of cancer through dietary changes. Maybe the cure isn't too far away...
omi3dov3 1 year ago
This makes me wanna cry.
animan360 1 year ago
a friend of mine got pregnant from a guy who was a jerk or whatever and he litterally moved across the country.. she thought about abortion for a while.. finally she decided to have the baby.. she was so poor and struggled the whole time.. that was 16 years ago.. the child is named Marcus and he has won 9 spelling bee titles and takes college level math.. on top of that the little dude can hit a curveball!!! God is so good.. Mercy is the strongest thing in the world.
mikeandbone 1 year ago
@mikeandbone
Good for her, she expressed her opinion about what to do in that situation, now what gives you or her to force that opinion on someone else?
She made her CHOICE and that is what being pro choice is about, thanks for defending pro choice.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Yes, we have the ability and the right to choose, but choose what? Life or death? Sin or righteousness?
A man kills his wife for not making his supper on time. If I were to tell you that his actions are seriously wrong, you probably wouldn't object. But if I were to tell you that a woman killed her child because the child exists, you advocate it. Is that being consistent?
10dan9 1 year ago
@10dan9 Okay then, so let's say a child is conceived by a woman whom wouldn't be able to feed it sufficiently along with herself. Homeless women. Or women that genuinely do not want children. Is being born into poverty, suffering, potential neglect and abuse, REALLY worth defending a non-developed embryo that all women bleed out every month if it's not fertilized, regardless if they want to or not? Then what should be the punishment for abortions, if it's so-called murder?
RyleyAshford 1 year ago
@RyleyAshford As for that last question, why are you asking me that? I'm not qualified to answer that question. You are dodging the issue. The issue is whether or not the fetus in the womb is a human being from the moment of conception; all scientific evidence shows that it is. If the fetus in teh womb is a human being, then it is protected by the constitution. Just because a few lives might not be worth living, doesn't give anyone the right to commit murder on a whim.
10dan9 1 year ago
@10dan9 Well, DUH it's a human, but that type of generalization wouldn't fly for every argument Christians or prolife groups put out. It's not gonna be a dog, but consider this: the value of a human being, to the state, is its potential. A fetus has potential; the legally-aborted EMBRYOS, which have not reached humanoid developement (no legs, arms, not even a functioning brain), do not. To be totally honest, I'd rather abort a child of mine if it'd keep them from suffering in life indefinitely.
RyleyAshford 1 year ago
@10dan9
You basically just admitted you have no idea what you're talking about if you are comparing a mother killing her child to abortion.
In the case of abortion, the fetus is unwanted and only dies because the fetus is removed from its host. That is why abortion is illegal once a fetus becomes viable (Able to survive outside of the womb).
Simply put, its the woman's right to remove the fetus if she wants because the fetus has no right to lay claim to the woman's body.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur A mother killing her child is exactly what abortion is. Define "child": "A son or daughter, an offspring." (The American College Dictionary definition 4). How is that not the fetus in the womb? Because the fetus isn't human? Where is the scientific evidence for that statement and if its not human then what is it, a lump of cells? No honest scientist advocates that view today. We have no reason to suspect that the fetus is not a human.
10dan9 1 year ago
@10dan9
"A mother killing her child is exactly what abortion is. Define "child": "A son or daughter, an offspring."
Yes but your statement was too broad since it could also mean a woman who kills her 9 year old daughter. The difference is that a fetus before viability is VERY different than a newborn infant for multiple reasons.
I was simply preventing you from continuing with an equivocation fallacy by disallowing you to make a broad claim.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Well, how is it that the child can't use the woman's body, but the woman can freely butcher the child? The question isn't whether or not the woman wants the child, the question is whether or not the fetus is a child. If it is, then it is protected by the highest law in the land. If it is a human being then killing it is murder and murder is always wrong, unless in self-defense.
10dan9 1 year ago
@10dan9
Do you think that if a 9 year old child needed a blood transfusion from its mother to survive and she was the only option for that child's survival do you think the woman should be legally obligated to spend 9 months keeping her child alive or else face criminal charges for murder?
If your answer is yes. You are an enemy of human rights.
If your answer is no, then you need to provide a reason why an unborn fetus should get more rights than a child with thoughts, feelings and friends.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@mikeandbone So, your sister was strong and persisted to have this bastard child whom grew into a great, smart, awesome kid that's going to make a difference; out of their OWN EFFORTS, and you're going to thank your god for that? Do not thank your god for what people do. Your sister is the hero in this, she made the decision to have her son, and her son earned all of that skill on his own. It's people like you that're the reason the world hates us: ignorant.
RyleyAshford 1 year ago 2
@RyleyAshford i could not agree with you more!!!!!! that was amazing. thank you for saying that!
lambchopclmt 1 year ago
@RyleyAshford your ignorant.. you need to bow down to something greater than yourself.. you thank the creator for the creations.. creation=purpose. good luck though im sure someone is praying for you.. but you im sure could care less.
mikeandbone 1 year ago 2
@mikeandbone ... you're joking, right?
RyleyAshford 1 year ago
@mikeandbone Dude, seriously? Go fuck yourself. That whole "you HAVE to believe in SOMETHING!" argument is so overdone and pointless! I bow to nobody, not even my caretakers. I RESPECT my caretakers, but I don't believe in anything science can't prove or theorize in a manner that seems plausible. Your God is about as implausible as it gets.
RyleyAshford 1 year ago
BOO HOO the little christians are being persecuted for their beliefs.
Which is just what they are doing to women who want choice.
Just because they are acting docile in a protest doesnt mean the other side is immoral, it means the other side sucks at protesting.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur It means that they stink, and that they need to be arrested if they are doing anything unlawful. Oh, and a little rear kicking in the process would prbly do them some good too.
oldpreach 1 year ago
@oldpreach
Seems to me what they are doing isn't unlawful in their country if the police aren't getting involved or if it is the police obviously think the christians are the bigger douchebags for trying take away a woman's liberty to choose.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur You're only being douchey if you are bugging someone else in a way that is against the law. Just standing there on the sidewalk with a sign or praying or whatever isn't against the law. Now, if they were blocking the way, or screaming, or something like that, it would be. I don't know, but it seems that the counter protesting goons here have little to no life. Just by lookin at them you can see it.
oldpreach 1 year ago
@oldpreach
All i'm saying is it appears that in this country the christian's views are poisonous. It seems popular opinion is very hostile to their ideas and for damn good reason!! They are attempting to legislate a control on women and THAT is way worse then being hit with a plastic bottle or shouted at with vitriol.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Yeah, i see your point. But, your view is not really as popular as you think. Over 50% of the US view themselves as Pro-Life now. And, if you regard what is in a woman's body as a separate life, as science clearly show it is, then that little life has rights too. So, the woman then has some responsibility since we are talking about an actual living person that has a heartbeat and brainwaves. Best case scenario is this: don't doink around and get knocked up n da 1st place.
oldpreach 1 year ago
@oldpreach
The constitution clearly states that the rights of the minority are protected from the will of the majority even if its 99% pro life i don't care.
If an unwanted child has a right to use the mother's body against her will because it is a separate entity does that mean she also has an obligation to give a blood transfusion to a stranger who needs it to survive?
Think about that for a few minutes before you reply. The point is that the child has no right to use the woman's body.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur
How about a reference to where in the Constitution that is?
Which article is it in or is it one of the 27 Amendments?
The child did not choose to be conceived the mother and the father chose to conceive the child by having sex. Either planned or accidental they both had sex knowing that pregnancy was a possible outcome of there actions.
The CHOICE to have sex without a contraceptive causes pregnancy, so the answer is murder, not taking responsibility for one's actions?
ViCe1986 1 year ago
@ViCe1986
Just because you have sex doesn't mean you choose to have a child. The point is the unborn has no more right to lay claim to the mother's body than anyone else. If the child isn't wanted the mother has the right to refuse the child the right to use her body.
I think if someone has the nerve to try to take away a woman's right to choose they deserve a punch in the face. I'm not cool with people forcing their morality on other people, and neither are the protesters in this video.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur You do realize that you are trying to "force" your morality on us don't you? What with the whole "punch in the face" thing.
10dan9 1 year ago
@10dan9
How am i forcing anything on anyone by holding the OPINION that people that take other people's rights away deserve none of their own (IE, the right to NOT get punched in the face)?
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Granted, you are not forcing your opinion on me, but people who share your opinion are actively forcing it on the unborn, and thats where it counts.
10dan9 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur
It means they are intolerant to differing opinions and are bigoted and are shameless.
I love how you defend these protesters and there tasteless acts but are willing to slam there opponents being belittled and insulted for peacefully showing support for there beliefs.
I guess that Nixon philosophy of that any means are justifiable if the cause it worth it was adapted by the liberals in whole heart.
Guess hypocrisy is back in style these days.
ViCe1986 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur i have never met a woman who said 'hey knock me up so i can kill this baby'.. neither party wants to have abortions..
mikeandbone 1 year ago
@mikeandbone
If you honestly think that is what i said in my previous statement i can only ask you to stop dragging your knuckles like an insipid ape, and if you were trying to strawman what i said i'd like to ask you to go fuck yourself.
Either way you're dishonest or stupid.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur okay well when someone hurts you or makes someone in your family cry remember hey its thier choice to..
mikeandbone 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur and i get the feeling your dinner table is full of haterd and name calling.. but your pro choice so you will probably find a way to back out of that too.
mikeandbone 1 year ago