Derren Brown Trick or Treat S02E03 Part 3/3 (HQ)

[blogologist]

After David arrived with the newspaper Derren hypnotized him and made him do a second writing which was then switched for the original. No continuous shots with Derren Brown.

[wesleyis16]

When I saw the intro, I thought : "Isn't that David Tennant" but i thought, after that "Nah, thats not possible, right?" PLEASANT SURPRISE!!! =D

[winterguy1]

You guys thik to much just try to believe

[comedydrink]

stop bursting peoples bubbles dam you

[Dan8086]

Derren Brown switched it at some point, but I'm not sure when. The switch may not have even been filmed. He had it videod while Dvaid was writing it, so his forgers could rewrite the intro bit. The purpose of teh trance writing was so that David would have no idea what he had written so that Derren could tell him anything had been his writing.

[chillstar2]

i think its real because all the other ones seem real because why would he do a trick that isnt real if he is capable of doing a trick just as amazing that is real?

[nishaziarre]

You can see at around 1:35 that the paper was folded into thirds while in the previous video (2/3) David folded the paper in half and then in half again (roughly). You can see this on the previous video 8:05 or a bit before.

And if you ask me, the part where Derren takes the envelope and switches hands behind the newspaper is when he switches out the actual paper with the one he had some writing expert write for him based on probably some online news article he found.

[elFarto2]

I agree, looking at the paper that David wrote on, it's clearly been folded differently and what has been written is different. At around 7:40 on the previous part you can see a big scribble, on this part it's not there.

[NYCdreamdogs]

Agarwalla: enough said.

[kathlacy]

Why are they checking the results 3 days later? Why not one or two or four?

[wesleyis16]

Why should they check it two or four days later? Why not three?

[Cymraes07]

I agree with Hypnolinks and meerten918. I don't believe the 'switch' theory. It's important, I think, that Derren has already read the papers and knew what stories were in there so that he could steer David into interpretating the scribbles into words which would correspond with one of the stories in the paper. It's the interpretation of the scribbles that's the key to this trick, imo. :)

[meerten918]

It's not that hard to realize what he's doing here.

The paper is real, the letter is real, nothing is a set up.

Derren obviously broswed through the paper that day and memorized some articles, he then browses through david's sheet with David.

Anyone noticed that out of 1 and a half sheet of writing they only gather maybe 20 words? Derren just browses through the text then selects the words that are similar to the ones used in the articles in the paper.

That's just how i think it works :)

[PlaySanctum]

Christ, Derren Brown has NOTHING DO SLIGHT OF HAND. He doesn't switch the papers, get over it.  Derren Brown works with subliminal effects, hence planting things to make people write things. When he is talking fast about words in the end, that is what makes some people more prone to right words they hear inside of hte questions Derren asks.

[ooo000ooo]

@PlaySanctum -

I suggest you read his book. You may not be quite so convinced that he doesn't use conjuring techniques.

[ooo000ooo]

Impressive stuff, but it's a slight of hand.

Notice David's 'prediction' is on the 2nd side of the sheet. Actually, it's two seperate sheets. Derren subtly takes the 1st side and David takes what is presumably a mess.

On the morning, with knowledge of the paper Derren forges the prediction.

At 1:05 in this video, Derren switches the envolopes. It's incredibly swift, and he teases by showing both sides of the news paper. Impressive!

He then passes the forged prediction back to David.

[Kropotkin2000]

I think you could be onto something.

[hypnolinks]

I think the key is Derren's assisting the Doctor in deciphering his trance-induced messy handwriting. Derren simply needs to pull a few key words out - "cold cat" becomes a name, some other gibberish becomes "face" (notice no full "facebook" was written). Not sure about the word "Scrabble" though, maybe implied by Derren during the automatic writing?

I don't believe the switch, I mean, why bother? You can take any two letters with bad writing and be made to see things.

[PlaySanctum]

Darren Brown didn't switch the newspaper.

He had prepared months for something like this to happen. He got a lead from hearing about the story. The article happened probablly 2 weeks before it happened and only 1 week before it got published. Darren Brown then helps the guy in subliminally to start writing trigger words when he is talking to him. The "trigger" words are not the exact same words as he is saying and all he needs to do is pick out key words for him to write.

[B0sstones]

There doesn't seem to be Episode 4 up on YouTube. Where is it??

[GoldenLegends]

It has not been posted you very slow person you....

[Animavore]

I thnk he switched the letter when he pointed at the board and had the paper in his hand because he switches hands. The back of the letter David looks at is different to the one he wrote on where a lot of it was on top of itself and Derren pushed his hand down. He could've used tracing paper when David writes on the front then taken it away or moved David off it when he turned the sheet of paper for him. There was no need to have all those sheets of paper if he was only going to use 1.

[stocktakerbillybob]

one last word to the fakepaper people -if the letter was legit then derren would have to have read davids awful scrawl (much of which was on top of itself) and then find a story which matches or maybe implant an old story into david to write in the first place... a fake newspaper would be the worst way of doing the trick, far too complex compared to a fake letter -after all remember that david (or anyone else we know of) didn't know what he had written so wouldn't be able to call shenanigans.

[Bluefire5]

Does anybody know the name of xylophone music in the backround?

Thanks

[stocktakerbillybob]

or some idiot trying to spam up some punters for his scam by posting endless links to pisspoor websites.

[oliviaaherne]

derren brown is creepy....FAKE!

[xtupida]

zzzzzzzzzzzz... it couldn't be more fake. They was shot after the papers were out, ofc. THis is fake

[lilz898]

At 1.04 - 1.06 that's where he does the switch.

It's just an un-needed action, and the whole sort of covering the envelope ever so briefly from the camera, and distracting David with his words so he can't see either.

Though don't think this as Derren cheating, he's an illusionist, part of the trick is that he could do that so slyly, but still convice David he could see into the future.

I was just saying 'Bless him, he's so chuffed, and he doesn't know that Derren just mindfucked him' - At David.

[stocktakerbillybob]

you could be right but i've just watched those few seconds a lot of times - it does make sense that he does the old switcharoo, david not knowing what he wrote and not seeing it till the day plus Derren was acting rather shifty at that point, rushed like he didn't want to give david a chance to think.... mind you, HOW he does it at the point, where the new letter comes from and the old letter goes? any idears?

maybe he put that little trick in to confuse anyone (us) trying to second guess him?

[BetaLynn3093]

that was amazing....

[dobby240]

derren borwn is a crazy mother fucker but my christ he's intruiging, i would love that to happen to me

[dockie1971]

Derren is an *illusionist* and makes entertaining TV. Why worry about suggestion or switching or whatever, just enjoy.

After last week's 'kitten' episode was supposedly a treat, I'm just worried what will happen to the poor sod that picks a trick :)

[eddiewilber20]

yeah, but that's the whole point isn't it? I enjoy just going 'wow' too, but it's bloody fun trying to work it out. Isn't he kind of challenging us by just doing what he does? Kind of saying 'you work it out!'. And I reckon he loves giving us hints of how he does it - I find the whole NLP thing he does fascinating and am amazed and how easily directed and led we all to be.

[dockie1971]

Perhaps, but I don't suppose anyone worries too much about Copperfield "Making the statue of liberty disappear" you know it is all illusion. Btw, if you watch 'The History of Magic' then Derren admits some of his "explanations" are lies too...as far as he is concerned that is an equal part of the illusion.

[stocktakerbillybob]

yeah his book is awesome too, he exsplains how it all works -but that's just for us readers.

When copperfield made a large object vanish for a strategically placed crowd many of us just laughed and said, jezuz not that old stunt again! It always used to be elephants or tanks which were vanished with the ol' perspective trick, but anything works.

the great thing about derren is even for those of us WITH critical thinking skills it's still a challenge to understand how his magic works.

[TheTopHatToBe]

Lol! I agree.

[grumpiergrim]

That was great, thanks for uploading. Darren Brown is just brilliant (and really scary!) and I love David Tennant :3

[eddiewilber20]

If you look at the previous video (2/3) where Tennant is writing the original at the floatation tank, you can see how much of a scribble he makes (see 7:40 and especially at 8:00 in). He is writing over his own words. The piece of paper you see in this clip (3/3) looks nothing like this on the reverse - even though we only get a quick look, it is far too legible and neat. I can't see the swap in this clip but I reckon there must be a swap somewhere - it's just not the same bit of paper.

[jadric]

david signed the paper

[ibz5150]

remember at the beggining of the show when david sighned something, which he couldnt see because it was dark and he didint read it either, so thats where they used his signature from.

[dukie619]

just because derren mentioned that the shop was a free choice for david made me suspect of that

[stocktakerbillybob]

lol you didn't guess which story it was as soon as they mentioned scrabble? lol if they planted the story then they also planted it in all my papers & internets too! If thats how you think he did it guess again...

[dukie619]

ok it might have not been a plant, as i said, could have been re-printed or something like that, i refuse, like any real follower of derren, to believe that it is a simple switch, please respect my opinion, and stop the ridiculing, thankyou

[stocktakerbillybob]

lol i'm not going to respect the opinion of someone who says the paper was doctored anymore than i'm gonna respect the opinion of someone who tells me the moon is made of cheese. also lol at 'like any real follower...' haha he isn't the christ FFS. (also he loves elegant simplicity - & the trick isn't the switch its making him fall for it)

If you wanna know if it was a doctored paper then you #could# go to the guardian website, look up the story and find the date it was originally printed...

[dukie619]

I'm not buying the whole switch of the envelopes thing, that is just not derrens style, i am big fan of his work, and there is no way that would be done with a simple switch. I believe that it is a mind trick, its all through the power of suggestion, derren is that good he can manipulate your free choice, like the free choice of which shop to buy a newspaper from maybe?? with a "plant" newspaper, and an old or made up, or held back story, thats just a guess anyway, we will never know for sure

[Ageofrequiem]

I hate to say it, but I a switch is probably the most likely solution. I've read his books (Pure Effect for example was a cracking read), seen his "Devil's Picturebook" etc.

The thing to remember about Derren is that he is, first and foremost, an illusionist and a showman- it's ALL about the effect. He is an expert at reading body language and in the art of cold reading, and is incredibly good at suggestion, but he will take the path of least resistance if such an opportunity presents itself.

[stocktakerbillybob]

haha srsly scrabbulous getting sued off facebook a made up story?!?!?!? The way to working out a illusion is to detach yourself from it and think logically -the elephant has gone? then ask where could the magician fit an elephant, for he surely hasn't got it in his top hat!

Maybe the point of this trick is show how someone can be made to believe in their own supernatural powers so easily (lol just look at how scientologists believe all the body theaten nonsense) positive affirmation+ fauxproof

[dukie619]

ok, hold off the ridiculing for a second there boyo, just remember, if your such a fan, one thing that has been said countless times, when dealing with mr brown he says "nothing is of your own choosing", i mearly picked up on that and the fact that he sent david out to a shop "of his own choosing" and came up with my own opinion of what may happened, i said that the story could have been held back, or even re-printed in that specific paper.Don't ridicule people, it makes you look like a jackass

[stocktakerbillybob]

no it makes YOU look like a jackass, mind you i needn't of bothered because apparently you're quite good at that yourself.... yes he has said that, yes he could have forced David to go to a certain shop but that would be even less impressive than a switch in my mind -why go to the effort of faking a paper which anyone with old back issues in their local library could check when he could perform an EPIC slight of hand (something he LOVES doing, srsly read his books) and get the same result?

[BagelUK]

Outstanding. Two of my favourite people together :D Thanks for posting .. Mx

[Xxqtpie192xX]

That was incredible!! Derren and David were brilliant and David seemed genuinely shocked...

[PrincessSophie07]

wow

That's sooo clever!

I love Derren Brown's work, I find him fascinating!

[adamcurtis7]

Thats a good point rbj2001, I believe there are some very very good impersonators of writing (and of course other things) out there, I wouldn't be suprised if they went to them lengths for his Tv show, and if that that was actually a switch of the envelopes its very impressive how quick and slyly he did it.

[Leaderofpancakes]

where does david want to work? 04.33? can't make it out

[lon21]

he says he's going to start working on some lottery numbers (predicting them that is)

[yakedup]

work on lottery numbers

[vondon72]

he says he's going to start working on trying to predict Lottery numbers :P

[Leaderofpancakes]

ok thanks a bunch =)

[adamcurtis7]

Is it? Cool, well I hope thats true anyway.

[adamcurtis7]

look at 1:09 and the seconds leading up to that, is that a switch of an envelope?

Personally I hope not.

[dotajames]

Nah you can see he's just switching it between his hands.

[rbj2001]

Was wondering how he did this, but I think you're right. He must switch the envelope at this point. There's no other reason Derren needs to handle the envelope after David takes it out of his pocket. As someone else pointed out, the paper is folded in a different way to the way David folded it.

They probably had a camera over David's shoulder when he was writing it, then that morning, found a story in the paper, than traced his writing for some bits and added in the words from the story.

[adamcurtis7]

Thats a good point rbj2001, I believe there are some very very good impersonators of writing (and of course other things) out there, I wouldn't be suprised if they went to them lengths for his Tv show, and if that that was actually a switch of the envelopes its very impressive how quick and slyly he did it.

[nancyandjoeysvoice]

AWESOME! Thank you!

[Gwenjane11]

aah david is zexy! :p

[eddiewilber20]

I'm a massive Derren Brown fan, but you can see clearly the 'fix' here. When Tennant folds up the piece of paper (at the flotation tank - previous video posting 2/3) he folds it in half, then roughly in half again (i.e. roughly into quarters). When he opens the envelope and takes the paper out, it is folded into third-of-A4 kind of way (1:32ish). Also writing (on this clip) much neater than the scribble he makes originally....if Tennant is being genuine, god knows how Brown switched though..

[Maust69]

That is simply because the envelope that THAT is inside was AGAIN folded, in turn folding the actual prediction. I see what you're saying, but it's not right.

[jk3319]

yeh it is, he switches envelopes around the newspaper, it isn't the original he wrote on, you can see it's different writing from the one he first wrote on 1/3, he uses that memory trick (u can see him memorizing the page) and copies it vaguely although not completely, anyway pretty sure

[jk3319]

+ the letter isnt bent when he hands it to him, but it is when he hands it back (probably the finger crease from holding it tightly around the newspaper so it cant be seen before makin the switch)

[IreneWit]

But how could derren know what's on the page? or is that not what you meant?

[dissinitbig]

Yea, you're right.

[skirky100]

If he did switch the envelope around the newspaper, it was extremely rapid. Possible though. I've seen Derren live twice - best shows I've ever seen.

[antivert]

I don't think he switched the envelopes. The writing is a total mess, the process of going through to find any word either of them thinks might be there then comparing that to the stories in the paper is designed to come up with as many random matches as possible. Also, Derren's already read the paper, so he can try to look for certain words :)

[Maust69]

I'm hoping I have a slightly less unimpressive answer, to use a pretty annoying double-negative...

I think Derren already knew that story was going to be in the paper, and simply manipulated what David Tennant wrote with the questions that Derren asked him and in what order etc... I think it completely defies the whole point of the show if it wasn't to do with the mind like that, and if David Tennant was in on it...

What about when he went back in time, and made the picture prediction??

[123TurnInto]

But how would he know that was going to happen if it hadn't happened yet? He might be good but I don't think he can go into the future. And also the questions he asked had nothing to do with what David wrote. Look how he skims over the bits influenced by the question and says to ignore them. I think he is genuine and just reeeeallllly clever.

[Maust69]

What I mean to say is, that he knew someone from the papers or knew that story was going to be there and that it had already happened... And about the questions not relating - you haven't watched enough Derren!

In the System he tells us he doesn't show everything, and in Something Wicked This Way Comes he proves that he can manipulate ALL of us without us even realising it. So basically, he could've asked him other questions we didn't hear.. and they may be just right to trigger vague ideas.

[EAnn3]

Wow, that was absolutely brilliant! I missed this last night, im totaly amazed - David Tennant can tell the future lol

[applegrassdude]

That is bloody amazing!! :O Thanks so much for uploading this.

[Derleks]

Where did David get Agawalla from? Got to be real!