First they ask for your money, then they take you to a point where you stop asking questions, then they change your staff....it's like a greedy octopus slowly wrapping its tentacles around your life.
If people start talking about your charge cards and want you CC numbers that's worse than a devil coming out of a volcano. That happens you RUN RUN RUN...RUN lady RUN.
"You don't even ask questions anymore." That's DEFINITELY a problem. It's pretty much saying "Just let them take your money, don't ask any questions!"
well, eventually you guys have to differentiate between a church couple of hundred years ago and a church in the modern age? sure christianity has killed during the crusades, but mankind has learned and such things must not happend again. as to CoS: whoever supresses free speech ect, is bad.
if people can believe in scientology this easily no wonder people are so devoted towards christianity... if Scientology was thought up during the time when christianity was made... it would be a world wide belief by now... just goes to show cults in the past are now considered religion in the present.
yes but that doesn't mean your church hasn't. and yet its ok for you to hate on scientology?
what i said was perfectly in bounds of truth. and yet you are soooo offended by simple criticism... i hate people like you who make religion for what it is. not the religion itself.
DAusc90 has a point indiscriminate hate is stupid. To hate without good reason is stupid and bigoted. I hate the organisation that is the "church" of scientology for all the wrong things they do, but I don't care about their beliefs or anyone else's. Why hate someone for simply believing something you think is dumb? Even if their belief results in acts detrimental to others now, it is more the acts that are hated and those who encourage and support them rather than the whole belief system.
and how am indiscriminately hating on christianity and their beliefs? i was referring to all religions but since christianity is the religion encompassing the major part of the western world, I merely used it as a reference.
and to say acts done through one's beliefs is not the fault of the belief itself is delusional! just the fact that the bible tells us to never worship any other god before him and that he is the only true god will instigate hate from fanatics towards other religions.
Actually I didn't say you indiscriminately hated on christianity. I simply said it was a good point, that indiscriminately hating is stupid and bigoted. Sorry if I implied that. I hate the negative acts as well as the people who knowingly support and encourage them. Those who unwittingly, without malice, do the negative things are to be pitied perhaps; despite the fact some of the greatest evil is perpetrated through innocence. That is not to say all those who commit negative acts are innocent.
The thing with all these beliefs is, sorry but this is true, they can be interpreted so many ways. Some believers seem to come up with all manner of "teachings" to do despicable things in the name of their religion while others show "teachings" that say their religion is one of peace. Scientolgists do this and it's only been around 50 years; one independent scientologist used Hubbard teachings to say something totally the opposite of DM. It isn't the belief it is how it is practiced. My view.
The general problem is with belief, as opposed to factual knowledge. When you start believing in things without bothering to weigh the relevant evidence, you enter a slippery slope. From there it is quite a small step to start justifying whatever you wish to justify based on your (unshakeable) convictions and being offended by people who disagree (portraying them as "haters", "suppresive" or "evil" persons and so on).
you're smoking crack dude. christianity never killed anybody. if you read the bible (Which is not only the BEST seller in the world ever but its also FREE if you just ask somebody for one) you'd know that.
the worst things in the world all come from fear and greed. greed is the root of scientology.
i'm surprised at the level of stupidity of wise beard man's own viewers..
no I'm not smoking crack, I can refer to one period in time called the "Crusades" in which christians has killed in estimation of 1 million people for their holy cause.
And I've read through the entire bible while I was a christian of which I am no longer. I am happier than ever that the oppression on my mind has been lifted.
sigh.. it started off as a simple examination of what cos might have been like today.. if it would have been in place of christianity when christianity was first made.
than some wacko christian took that to offense and made some random remark? and i dont know why i am explaining this to you like a baby cuz you can see this by reading the previous comments...
the core belief of christianity is: love everyone (especially God) and treat them accordingly
the core belief of scientology is: do whatever you can to spread scientology and keep scientology working no matter the cost which can include lying, felonious acts, generally bad human behavior and basically being a shitty person.
Thanks; I appreciate your comment. The question was rhetorical. I should have added a smily :) But we need to stick to the point. This is not the 16th century and the target is not Catholic indulgences or the Crusades or even the Inquisition but the CoS which is doing it all again. I know you know but I've said it again anyway.
It would help a *lot* if you could read comments in order without having to switch off and then start again at the beginning.
I agree while today the christian church is brought to a considerable level of insanity, I was merely making a small point of comparison... Until these christians all around me blew up on it. That is the problem with religion today which is they demand respect from society.
the crusades was an ill fated idea from the catholic church. saying that is an accurate representation of christianity is like saying tang is orange juice.
but you're a scientology plant, so i would expect nothing less than a really ignorant and biased opinion from you.
how am i a scientology plant? just because i brought up some issues with your religion? is that how you treat critics? the core belief of scientology is actually lord xenu so your wrong there. the people who practice illegal activities in the name of scientology is the same as the christians who massacred in the name of christ during the crusade. same exact piece of the pie. except your too blinded by your own church to even see any wrong doing. kind of reminds me of some scientologists...
"the people who practice illegal activities in the name of scientology is the same as the christians who massacred in the name of christ during the crusade."
Not at all. $cientology's "source" explicitly _directed_ his followers to commit those crimes. The Bible doesn't direct us to go on physical warfare crusades, but rather to make disciples. Dead people cannot be disciples. ;-)
Wow.. I know scientology lies and cheats to get at your money and destroy your life, but just think if he'd just listened to his wife from the very start.
Mark, PLEASE put the "2/10" at the beginning of the future video files. If you have time, correcting this on the videos that are already up would be phantastic.
As it is now, the titles cut off before the ordinals in the "all videos" listing, which makes creating quick lists almost impossible.
She doesn't sound whacked to me, and she does have a good perspective; albeit with the benefit of hindsight. I think you are a little too focused though. It is not whether or not it is okay to put down drugs, and by drugs we're talking prescription medications, it is the fact that it was being done with such zeal that it put off the staff, resulting in a high staff turn over because reasonable people just don't like the kind of environment that creates. Big picture see?
This gal keeps talking about red flag after red flag. I'm really not feeling sorry for her at this point. I mean... the scifags are almost shouting that this is a scam to them, and they still are buying in.
That's the odd way it works though, as WBM says it is a slow, methodical process, it starts off very reasonable and progresses and the subject simply does not notice the change. That's what makes it so scary, people will unwittingly fall in to it unless they are forewarned and that is the main aim of what we do, try to make people aware of how this organisation works.
you guys got out!!!! so many don't
B Happy
kickthespike 1 year ago
These people sound so SURPRISED! Duh....
jonathanmelia 1 year ago
This is the perfect scam. Scientologists working for other Scientologists all of whom are paying money back into Scientology.
velveetaslingshot 1 year ago
I swear $cientologists drive you out of business on purpose to make you leave with nowhere to go but the money cult.
LinkBlink 1 year ago
First they ask for your money, then they take you to a point where you stop asking questions, then they change your staff....it's like a greedy octopus slowly wrapping its tentacles around your life.
SharksKid 2 years ago
Anybody know what he meant with his "windmill" comment (see 6:20 )?
11Jamie11 2 years ago
Wow. From 3:52 onwards, it explains in a nutshell what WISE can do for your business.
Thanks for posting this. I have lots to say but have to go. Sending this video to a couple of businesses that I know......
SP4123105 2 years ago
"if you say it over and over, many times, people start to believe it".... HITLER!!!!
cottonear 3 years ago 3
If people start talking about your charge cards and want you CC numbers that's worse than a devil coming out of a volcano. That happens you RUN RUN RUN...RUN lady RUN.
998987987698765 3 years ago 2
"No one can think for them self" "After a while you stop asking questions".....CULT!!!
80Perkele 3 years ago
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I have a hard time understanding why there are still people on youtube and elsewhere defending scientology.
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anoncell 3 years ago 4
"I have a hard time understanding why there are still people on youtube and elsewhere defending scientology."
Indeed. If they weren't in a mind control and hypnosis CULT, they would stop by now.
11Jamie11 2 years ago
Freakin' ALWAYS ask questions!
careditor 3 years ago
"You don't even ask questions anymore." That's DEFINITELY a problem. It's pretty much saying "Just let them take your money, don't ask any questions!"
Dannynelsonstinks 3 years ago 10
Vampire takes your blood, you become one too. Scientologist takes your money, you become one too. Pattern? What pattern?
theninjapope 3 years ago 11
well, eventually you guys have to differentiate between a church couple of hundred years ago and a church in the modern age? sure christianity has killed during the crusades, but mankind has learned and such things must not happend again. as to CoS: whoever supresses free speech ect, is bad.
StudentsMatchplay 3 years ago
Scientology sounds a lot like the mafia.
Panman38 3 years ago 2
if people can believe in scientology this easily no wonder people are so devoted towards christianity... if Scientology was thought up during the time when christianity was made... it would be a world wide belief by now... just goes to show cults in the past are now considered religion in the present.
yoops 3 years ago
Sorry, my church hasn't killed anyone recently. Honestly, hating religion indiscriminately is stupidity.
DAusc90 3 years ago
yes but that doesn't mean your church hasn't. and yet its ok for you to hate on scientology?
what i said was perfectly in bounds of truth. and yet you are soooo offended by simple criticism... i hate people like you who make religion for what it is. not the religion itself.
yoops 3 years ago
DAusc90 has a point indiscriminate hate is stupid. To hate without good reason is stupid and bigoted. I hate the organisation that is the "church" of scientology for all the wrong things they do, but I don't care about their beliefs or anyone else's. Why hate someone for simply believing something you think is dumb? Even if their belief results in acts detrimental to others now, it is more the acts that are hated and those who encourage and support them rather than the whole belief system.
anonymous1312 3 years ago 2
and how am indiscriminately hating on christianity and their beliefs? i was referring to all religions but since christianity is the religion encompassing the major part of the western world, I merely used it as a reference.
and to say acts done through one's beliefs is not the fault of the belief itself is delusional! just the fact that the bible tells us to never worship any other god before him and that he is the only true god will instigate hate from fanatics towards other religions.
yoops 3 years ago
Actually I didn't say you indiscriminately hated on christianity. I simply said it was a good point, that indiscriminately hating is stupid and bigoted. Sorry if I implied that. I hate the negative acts as well as the people who knowingly support and encourage them. Those who unwittingly, without malice, do the negative things are to be pitied perhaps; despite the fact some of the greatest evil is perpetrated through innocence. That is not to say all those who commit negative acts are innocent.
anonymous1312 3 years ago
The thing with all these beliefs is, sorry but this is true, they can be interpreted so many ways. Some believers seem to come up with all manner of "teachings" to do despicable things in the name of their religion while others show "teachings" that say their religion is one of peace. Scientolgists do this and it's only been around 50 years; one independent scientologist used Hubbard teachings to say something totally the opposite of DM. It isn't the belief it is how it is practiced. My view.
anonymous1312 3 years ago
The general problem is with belief, as opposed to factual knowledge. When you start believing in things without bothering to weigh the relevant evidence, you enter a slippery slope. From there it is quite a small step to start justifying whatever you wish to justify based on your (unshakeable) convictions and being offended by people who disagree (portraying them as "haters", "suppresive" or "evil" persons and so on).
clray123 3 years ago 5
Christianity does not kill. Scientology has. It is responsible for numerous ruined lives and at least 4 deaths, if not more.
DAusc90 3 years ago
"Christianity does not kill"
No but Christians sure do and then Christianity provides the justification.
ReligionIsACrutch 3 years ago
Are you retarded?
Christianity does not provide justification for murder.
ExpectUsRVA 3 years ago
christianity provides nothing. people rationalize what they want to do just like you rationalized that horrible logic to justify your post.
anonazero 3 years ago
Christianity has killed before. Much more than scientology will ever achieve.
yoops 3 years ago
you're smoking crack dude. christianity never killed anybody. if you read the bible (Which is not only the BEST seller in the world ever but its also FREE if you just ask somebody for one) you'd know that.
the worst things in the world all come from fear and greed. greed is the root of scientology.
anonazero 3 years ago
i'm surprised at the level of stupidity of wise beard man's own viewers..
no I'm not smoking crack, I can refer to one period in time called the "Crusades" in which christians has killed in estimation of 1 million people for their holy cause.
And I've read through the entire bible while I was a christian of which I am no longer. I am happier than ever that the oppression on my mind has been lifted.
Christianity uses both fear and greed.
fear=hell
greed=10% of your income, televised preachers.
yoops 3 years ago
well, good for you, we are all happy for you, but what has this to do with the Co$?
auchraw 3 years ago
sigh.. it started off as a simple examination of what cos might have been like today.. if it would have been in place of christianity when christianity was first made.
than some wacko christian took that to offense and made some random remark? and i dont know why i am explaining this to you like a baby cuz you can see this by reading the previous comments...
yoops 3 years ago
here's what you dont get:
the core belief of christianity is: love everyone (especially God) and treat them accordingly
the core belief of scientology is: do whatever you can to spread scientology and keep scientology working no matter the cost which can include lying, felonious acts, generally bad human behavior and basically being a shitty person.
anonazero 3 years ago 7
Thanks; I appreciate your comment. The question was rhetorical. I should have added a smily :) But we need to stick to the point. This is not the 16th century and the target is not Catholic indulgences or the Crusades or even the Inquisition but the CoS which is doing it all again. I know you know but I've said it again anyway.
It would help a *lot* if you could read comments in order without having to switch off and then start again at the beginning.
auchraw 3 years ago
I agree while today the christian church is brought to a considerable level of insanity, I was merely making a small point of comparison... Until these christians all around me blew up on it. That is the problem with religion today which is they demand respect from society.
yoops 3 years ago
I'm sorry I meant to say "sanity" instead of "insanity".
yoops 3 years ago
the crusades was an ill fated idea from the catholic church. saying that is an accurate representation of christianity is like saying tang is orange juice.
but you're a scientology plant, so i would expect nothing less than a really ignorant and biased opinion from you.
anonazero 3 years ago
how am i a scientology plant? just because i brought up some issues with your religion? is that how you treat critics? the core belief of scientology is actually lord xenu so your wrong there. the people who practice illegal activities in the name of scientology is the same as the christians who massacred in the name of christ during the crusade. same exact piece of the pie. except your too blinded by your own church to even see any wrong doing. kind of reminds me of some scientologists...
yoops 3 years ago
"the people who practice illegal activities in the name of scientology is the same as the christians who massacred in the name of christ during the crusade."
Not at all. $cientology's "source" explicitly _directed_ his followers to commit those crimes. The Bible doesn't direct us to go on physical warfare crusades, but rather to make disciples. Dead people cannot be disciples. ;-)
11Jamie11 2 years ago
would you explain more ????
ajfx 3 years ago
Wow.. I know scientology lies and cheats to get at your money and destroy your life, but just think if he'd just listened to his wife from the very start.
AnonymousCookies 3 years ago 6
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sad but true...
AngeliaChanel 3 years ago 4
Mark, PLEASE put the "2/10" at the beginning of the future video files. If you have time, correcting this on the videos that are already up would be phantastic.
As it is now, the titles cut off before the ordinals in the "all videos" listing, which makes creating quick lists almost impossible.
Superphilipp 3 years ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
whats wrong with putting down drugs?? is it ok to be pro drugs??
this woman sounds wacked.
I dont think this woman has a true prospective on what it is really about.
no one gangs up on anyone.
royalblooming 3 years ago
silly troll, keep watching WBM's videos to see the truth....you're apparently on your way.
mikemikemofo 3 years ago 3
She doesn't sound whacked to me, and she does have a good perspective; albeit with the benefit of hindsight. I think you are a little too focused though. It is not whether or not it is okay to put down drugs, and by drugs we're talking prescription medications, it is the fact that it was being done with such zeal that it put off the staff, resulting in a high staff turn over because reasonable people just don't like the kind of environment that creates. Big picture see?
anonymous1312 3 years ago 2
This gal keeps talking about red flag after red flag. I'm really not feeling sorry for her at this point. I mean... the scifags are almost shouting that this is a scam to them, and they still are buying in.
Papachair 3 years ago 2
That's the odd way it works though, as WBM says it is a slow, methodical process, it starts off very reasonable and progresses and the subject simply does not notice the change. That's what makes it so scary, people will unwittingly fall in to it unless they are forewarned and that is the main aim of what we do, try to make people aware of how this organisation works.
anonymous1312 3 years ago 2
The only weapon you need is reason.
clray123 3 years ago 5
These are great Mark!
SciFientology 3 years ago 3