Germanic nations always tried to enslave or exterminate slavic nations and never managed. Look at Teutons and Tanenberg, I and II WW. They would like to be superior but they have no morality and purity to do it. Hitler said at the and that Slavs appeared to be master race. Funny as we never will think about ourselves in this way. We do not have a problem of short dick or paranoia like Germans have. Anyway those Arians which Hitler thought they are, are really Slavic, we are the core of Indo.Eur.
if the sixth army supply maintained it could still withstand the russian juggernaut. sixth army where being sacrifice in a better hand to hand fight street to street room to room struggle agains the death defying civilians and russian soldiers the sixth army was bleeding while the russians supplys keep flowing.
The best thing that could happen in the war in the East was the Soviets showing Hitler how wrong he was about the "untermensch". The mad genius of Germany could never comprehend it and he kept imposing wrong directives on his great Generals who could perceive that defeat was looming.
Everything the Nazi propaganda said about the Russians turned out to be nothing but...propaganda!
The Russians fought bravely and hard.
They gave the great Werhmacht a very hard time and ended up defeating it .
@mastaODI56 russian troops or russian winter? if the winter were a normal one like the germans were accustomed, the war would have torn out very different
@xTheWarlordx i would say a mixture of both russians had to survive the russian winter with heavy winter uniforms and managed to fight in them,and if it was only the russian winter how did the they oull the nazis back to germany after the winter was over
@mastaODI56 becouse the loss in stalingrad left a big gap in the german defense, apart of loosing completly their most powerfull army the 6th, wich had the most veterans and experienced divisions, Russians had another favor on their side, their infinite amount of supply, germans couldnt keep up with, also germans biggest fault was to leave the flanks protected by italians and romanians, that was the main error that led to the disaster.
@011258stooie I think it's important to note that the Atlantic Wall in 1944 was a much more formidable defense than what the British mounter on their coast in 1940. If Hitler had moced faster after the fall of France he might have been able to assemble a naval invasion force that could have led a successful invasion of England. But we'll never really know.
Wilhelm Hoffman's reports are mentioned on "The Beginning of the Road" by Vasily Chuikov. However, this book has a limited historic value, since the author obviously spared Stalin from his unique ruthless.
Hoffman's diary (who Chuikov kept in his personal files) only emphasizes how German morale was collapsing at so ferociousresistance. Just figure out the impact on a regular German soldier who spent most of his life listening to Nazi propaganda demonizing Russians as "untermensch".
Hitler's daily use of Methamphetamines (which is well documented) affected his judgement and his ego. He truly believed all that "Aryan cr*p" that his propagandists had been spewing. As far as hating the Jews goes, in the 1930's most countries were strongly anti-Semitic but not to the point of actually murdering them. Meth affects people's minds in strange ways...
@randy95023 yes, he was taking meth (and other things, too) and there is a suspicion that he had syphillis, (he was being ttreated with mercury) which would cause mental imbalance, but another little corporal also tried to invade Russia and was finished by it. It seems to be that when a megalomaniac has finally gone over the edge, they try for the ultimate prize - Russia. It's just not possible to beat Russia; the people, terrain and climate defeat all comers.
@jlnijholt Otherwise I completely agree with you, but it was Chuikov, not Zhukov, who organized the defense. When Zhukov attacked and took all the glory, Chuikov and his 62nd Army became very bitter towards Zhukov.
After studying WW2 for over 30 years I thought I'd heard it all about Stalingrad. I recently read a book by Vasily Grossman, "A Writer at War". There are 4 chapters about Stalingrad where he served from September until German Surrender in January. He spent most days at the front and crossed the Volga about 12 times to file his reports. His writings are very poignant and human, almost poetic.
In Vasily Grossman's book "Writer at War" there are a couple of chapters regarding the battles of Stalingrad. Grossman, a proud Soviet, but not a Communist writes truthfully and to the point. NO propaganda in his writings. He's in touch with the common soldier and risked his life by remaining at the front for weeks on the west bank of the Volga in Stalingrad. The Soviet soldier may have been the toughest soldiers anywhere in WW2. They accepted death completely, but truly wanted to survive.
@randy95023 but to survive is to sacrifice,and they wont survive if stalin wasnt their leader that time,if it was someone else,they're surely gonna wind up like the french and other nations beaten by the nazis...
thanks to stalin,they survived...
as well as the world did survived,because of stalin...
@teslagod2003 Indeed, we have Soviet and Stalin to thank for our free world today, although I doubt that Hitler would have ever been able to achieve all of his goals and stay at the seat of power. There were just too many resistance movements and different races in the world for Hitler to be able to eradicate them all and crush all opposition.
Thanks to Stalin's total disregard to human lives he crushed the nazis.
It was both good and bad, Stalin's reign put a stain on communism and to this day people think of Stalin and how many he murdered when someone says 'Soviet' or 'Communism', although none of it had anything to do with communism.
Although without him Germany would have taken the oil fields and Soviet would have collapsed, allowing the nazis to put all of their forces on Normandie which means D-Day would have failed.
@atosafi1 ok,if you were stalin,how would you deal with those who believe in the western beliefs,those who are very selfish not to deliver what's good for the nation,those who have personal interest and dont muchly care about others,those who would definitely sell the soviet union in the name of selfishness,those who play around and abuse the weak,and those who will forske the motherland?
@atosafi1 Very interesting, yet Stalin, like Hitler, had little knowledge of miltary matters. It was a general by the name of Zhukov - who had earlier defeated the Japs in Manchuria - who organized the defense and offense at Stalingrad, as he had done succesfully with Moscow in 1941-'42, driving the Germans back from the capital.
Full credit to the Soviet soldier, he was an excellent fighting man and very ably led. J.V. Stalin and the Soviet high command made mistakes and lost battles; but they never came close to making as many mistakes as Hitler, whose strategic blundering on all fronts cost Germany the war. And it is axiomatic in war that the side that makes the least mistakes wins.
"we knew both men were mad but we chose to follow Stalin because he spoke Russian" Soviet officer 1941
the soviet soldier could give a shit about country in the end he was fighting to see the next day
wake up Hitler on purpose lost the war. read Hitler's second book he talks about the new world order
otto skorzeny who founded the CIA confessed to an author who wrote "the bush connection" buy at bush connection website ratted out Hitler who faked his death and was smuggled into America
@RDDR4848 not actually,the truth is that the side who could learn from their mistakes much better,doesnt matter how much mistake it is,could win the war...
@skrininow yes it can,if it means uniting the world,and end the bs thing of disunity and separate rule,that UN is the most bs alliance ever,its nothing more than a puppet for US n its allies...
our planet needs to be united and be ONE,and end the civil war and AMERICAN EMPIRIALISM in the world!!!
Actually, the communist regime turned Russia from a agricultural backwater country into a superpower, and then Boris Yeltsin and Gorbachev fucked it all up
@atosafi1 communism did that at the cost of millions of human lives. As Lenin said, "The ends justify the means". So terrorizing and killing millions of people for dictatorship of the proletariat and revolution did work but turned the country into 1/3 the agricultural and industrial output it was under the tsar. If it wasn't for the US to send millions of tons of food and material into the country (WW1 + WWII) then communism wouldn't have lasted long in Russia. Capitalism saved communism ironic
Soviet wasn't even communist, no country in the whole world has been communist, they are socialist states ruled by communist parties so i don't know what you're talking about when you say communism.
Soviet would have managed anyway and America never sent anything into Soviet during WW2 only WW1 and at that point they had a tsar and not a communist regime so you are wrong.
atosafi1. I don't know where you got your history but you've got it wrong. I recommend reading the book "Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler. The Age of Social Catastrophe" by Robert Gellately. I agree with the Soviet was not a pure communist state because as Lenin and Stalin found out you have to use terror and force to make it work. But how can you say the Soviet would have "managed" anyway? I guess millions of people dying of starvation doesn't matter. It's just a necessary step to utopia.
@atosafi1 where did you get you're info?US supplied the russians their "lend and lease program",its not aid,but istill supplied it to the russsians,which they later paid...
@evilwatermelon well that's simply because they ruined stalin and they forgot that it was stalin who held the soviet union intact in every best way...
his tactics,prolly brutal and inhuman,but thats his way of fighting corruption and western influence,he's just giving the russian people some pride of theirown and be russian,not western...
I am sure it is a loose translation from German and being a primarily English production, the use of Tommy Gun gave the viewing audience somewhat of an image to understand. I am sure they are refering to the Russian PPD40. Though through lend lease they did receive a few Thomson SMG, it would ahev been rare to see one in action at Stalingrad.
russians kicked ass when germany's reserves worldwide were wiped out. In the beginning germany man-handled russia, and some would say if there was no second front, germany would've routed russia in months.
In the beginning Germany launched a surprise invasion of Russia. Of course it was a rout in the beginning and what else could it be?
Germany was headed for defeat way before the Normandy invasion (1944). After Stalingrad (1942) Germany's goose was cooked. It was just a matter of time.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but everyone is not entitled to their own facts. Your facts are mistaken. I suggest you read 'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich' by William Shirer.
The German mobile reserves and territorial defenses were demolished in the West. I don't know what history books you read from, but if you think Russia would've gotten anywhere near Berlin with those troops in place, rather than dying in France, then you got some good weed in your bong.
IF I WERE TO BELIEVE YOU, I'd say "great, be proud", but since I don't.... I repeat my statement. If the last German reserves and territorial defenses hadn't been destroyed and diverted to the west, the Russians would NEVER, EVER had reached Berlin. The amount of Germans running to the western forces to surrender is also another factor. With no western front, Russia gets bogged down...just like Germany did in Russia. Stalemate.
Hitler had been warned and all of his prussian generals were in fear 'of the war on two fronts'. There could never be a stalemate, german people were obsessed with hitler in the 1930s, the russian offensive was a war of annihilation,doesnt matter where you are, you try to eradicate a civilised country, they will fight to their last breath as the russians did.'A bohemian corporal' was leading millons of people to thier death and in the end he shot himself like the coward he was...
Yes hitler was a coward, and all that. My POV is just straight militray history, forget the politics. If those 9 elite reserve panzer divisions were available to the German High Command, and they would have adopted Hienz Guderains defense plan for a Russian invasion, Zhukov would have been stopped and bogged down before getting anywhere near Berlin. Thus the reason why Stalin was so adamant about opening a western front. He knew he could not beat germany alone.
I agree with you about Shirer. He calls the disaster at Stalingrad "The Great Turning Point". Though the Germans tried to regain the upper hand at Kursk, the advantage lay with the Soviets.
it was all an inside job wake up never invaded britain ??? never invaded switzerland ..??? look at who funded hitlers rise to power presscott bush do your homework please
Battle of Britain...In 1941 the RAF kicked the Luftwaffe's ass and so Operation Sealion (the invasion of Britain) was cancelled. You should do your homework and stop talking shite...."An inside job" you deluded fool.....
The Germans should have listened to General Guderian , he wanted to go all out for Moscow, that would have cut the head off the beast and the whole country would have collasped. That was by the Russians after the war, Guderian was the only to call Hitler stupid in his face and survive, why because he was why with Rommel they defeated france in six weeks and he never forgot that. Stalin was a worse evil than Hitler ,look what aiding him got the US 50 years of problems. They are a bunch of savage.
Russians are not savages. If Nazis will, they will kill everyone who was not 'Aryan' in Europe. Germany had plans to build an atom bomb to target America as well. They were building the long range V2 rocket so they can put a nuclear warhead that can reach US!!!. Also don't forget they promised Mexico that Mexicans will get lands back from Americans if they sided with Nazis !!!! THANK GOD ALLIES WON!!!!
The U.S. supplied Britain and the Russians with huge amounts of war material, long before actually joining the fray. Without U.S. involvement, the Brits and Russkies would be goose stepping and giving the nazi salute.
If the Soviet Union had not been there to wipe out the bulk of the German military. The Nazis would have seized the vast oil and steel reserves of Russia and invaded Britain and eventually the US. Get it right.
America's biggest contribution was its factories were out of range therefore producing vast amounts of war materials. All due respects for the soldiers: my dad was a combat pilot i the European theater.
The US played a vital role in the Pacific theatre - had they buckled after Pearl Harbour a Japanese assault on the USSR would have denied them vital reserves at Moscow in 41 and Stalingrad in 42. Britain's contribution was - of course - not losing in 1940-1. Without either effort - or the great Soviet efforts - Hitler would not have been stopped. Remember all those who fought so that we can be free.
You obviously don't know much about WWII. The Russians won the decisive battle at Stalingrad when American aid was still small. They won their second decisive battle at Kursk a full year before D-Day.
The Battle of Stalingrad is probably the one area where I feel sorry for the Nazis, given what the soldiers suffered through. That being said, it's probably for the better that they lost.
If you understood history Patsyd80, you would know that the D-Day invasion succeeded because Stalin launched Operation Bagration at the same time that soaked up almost all the German's elite divisions and armor. In fact, the Red Army destroyed and captured in that operation German forces greater than all the german forces on the Western Front. D-Day only determined where the line between USSR/Western influence would be in post war Europe, not the outcome of the war.
Someone smart enough to give credit where credit is due. The Russians were really brave and made the most sacrifices. Don't malign the Russians. They are just misunderstood people during the cold war.
d day was a cake walk to the eastern front. 2nd string old men and ukrainians. the more i learn about the 2nd ww i dont think america and us "england" could have stood up to the germans with out the russians. their leader was pure evil but the red army was great.
Do not underestimate the technical aspects of the D-day landings. Although the casualties were nothing like Stalingrad, the D-day landings were in a different way a comparable stragegic and tactical success to Stalingrad.
@patsyd80 no,ur partially wrong,their leader stalin isnt that evil,u brits and amricans are more evil than stalin!stalin only did what he believe is best for the soviet union,all the deaths were meant to discipline his people and troops,and you faggots used this propaganda to ruin his great honor and his great effort in providing the world a better place.
@teslagod2003 just thinkwell,if stalin wasnt the leader of the soviets that time,the nazis and its allies could'ved easily wiped out the reds,but stalin is cold and hard,and that attitude spread throughout his army and his people,which helped them stood up and beat the nazis.
I admire so much what the RAF did in the Battle of Britain and what Montgomery's soldiers did. I respect what the US did in the Pacific "island-hopping" and in Europe. But without the Russians, without Stalingrad, God knows what would have happened. Most western history books haven't told the truth about Stalingrad. And then there's Leningrad. I mean, look at the evidence!
It was the Royal navy and it's 200 year old tradition that made hitler think twice in 1940. [ captains to be hung from there own yardarm if they refuse battle ]
Believe me .
Stalin executed 13'000 of his own troops for cowadice in the battle of stalingrad, but then went on to kill 9 out of 10 german soliders who died during the whole of WW2..
U guys are pointlessly arguing. British and Americans did thier equal share to win the war. Russians lost far more than both to beat the Germans, they suffered the most. Not to mention they had a crazy dictator of thier own that killed 20million of his own ppl. Although, the Atomic Bomb was highly top secret the British had nothing to do with it.
MrKippers22, think u critisize too much. When ur nation barly escaped the Germans being pushed out of France, and so narrowly won the battle of Britan, if the Germans decided to send one last attack. The U.S.A would have to fight that war trying to liberate ur country too. Paton beat Montgomary at every turn in Africa and won the battle of the Bulge. Yea we didnt face the Germans at full strength, but they didnt do much to beat u guys. If anyone faced the full wrath of Germany it was Russia.
Manhatan project, 100,000 citizens in U.S.A. to create it. We were bombed at Pearl harbor. Although I think Britan did very well against the Germans during the earlyer part of the War. Vietnam is another issue btw. 58,000 of ours dead. 1.5million of them dead (conscripts, and soldeires). Who rly won that, the only thing we lost with Veitnam was the war at home.
Yea i agree with that. But 90% of the Pacific era was won by America. U left out the Russians at the very end helped in Korea. America did not win that war all by itself. But Britan didnt defeat Germany all on its own is my point. World War II was won by a team effort. Just hate it when someone says one general won the whole damn thing.
I think it may be appropriate to say that the mini-series itself should be acknowledged as well as the history on display. Sir Jeremy Isaacs produced a great saga on WWII and deserves the credit. Also I love Carl Davis' score from the series, primarily on the Russian episodes.
yea, and while you were fighting side by side with our forces, the French, and the Russians on the East. America fought and defeated the entire Japanese Empire on its own. We rescued Sigapore, you narrowly escaped the battle of britan.
"America fought and defeated the entire Japanese Empire on its own"
Sumoto, that's a sweeping statement. I'd draw your attention to Australia and New Zealand, The British, The Chinese etc who were all fighting against the Japanese empire. America did not defeat Japan "on its own" by any stretch of the imagination.
Singapore fell to the Japanese anyway.
If your point is that the Americans won the war, you're wrong. It was a team effort.
lucky russian, the greatest defense russian had are the russian winter, russian can't fight for sure, napoleon fail to take moscow due to winter, hitler fail on barbarossa campaign, and stalingrad.
yeah the winter! and the patriotism, the deaths of 30000000 million people, the production of firearms, tanks,planes, artillery, the fact that the medical actions against diseses in stalingrad were better than the germans, a history of partisans defending their country form invasions.
Oh yes, russians were so lucky! The winter arrived in the winter totally unexpectedly, of course nobody could foresee it! And russians naturally don't suffer of cold weather just because they have a special gene which makes them insensitive to cold.
What ? What a stupid statement. Have you watched this series or even read any books about the eastern front.
As far as Napoleon, Russians fought him to the standstill at Borodino.
By Napoleons own account: The most terrible of all my battles was the one before Moscow. The French showed themselves to be worthy of victory, but the Russians showed themselves worthy of being invincible.
Stalingrad was truly the Verdun of World War II. It was a true example of the irrestible force confronting the immovable object and guess who won?? A real tragedy for both sides, but ultimately destructive enough to mark the beginning of the end of the Wehrmacht in Russia and of the Third Reich in general.
Germanic nations always tried to enslave or exterminate slavic nations and never managed. Look at Teutons and Tanenberg, I and II WW. They would like to be superior but they have no morality and purity to do it. Hitler said at the and that Slavs appeared to be master race. Funny as we never will think about ourselves in this way. We do not have a problem of short dick or paranoia like Germans have. Anyway those Arians which Hitler thought they are, are really Slavic, we are the core of Indo.Eur.
lukaszpjanus1 1 year ago
russians? they mean soviets, soviets this is not russian, russian is after the fall of the wall
darian2777 1 year ago
Wow the 66,600 view. Kinda creepy yet fitting.
UnderStoryProd 1 year ago
if the sixth army supply maintained it could still withstand the russian juggernaut. sixth army where being sacrifice in a better hand to hand fight street to street room to room struggle agains the death defying civilians and russian soldiers the sixth army was bleeding while the russians supplys keep flowing.
Gab1n0III 1 year ago
russia was a bear with wounded legs but with devestating arms that crushed the nazis
rocksoliddude1 1 year ago
The best thing that could happen in the war in the East was the Soviets showing Hitler how wrong he was about the "untermensch". The mad genius of Germany could never comprehend it and he kept imposing wrong directives on his great Generals who could perceive that defeat was looming.
Everything the Nazi propaganda said about the Russians turned out to be nothing but...propaganda!
The Russians fought bravely and hard.
They gave the great Werhmacht a very hard time and ended up defeating it .
VIRIATO1942 1 year ago
strange how the german army so tactically superior beaten by unexperienced russian troops it's amazing how solid morale beats arrogance
mastaODI56 1 year ago
@mastaODI56 russian troops or russian winter? if the winter were a normal one like the germans were accustomed, the war would have torn out very different
xTheWarlordx 1 year ago
@xTheWarlordx i would say a mixture of both russians had to survive the russian winter with heavy winter uniforms and managed to fight in them,and if it was only the russian winter how did the they oull the nazis back to germany after the winter was over
mastaODI56 1 year ago
@mastaODI56 becouse the loss in stalingrad left a big gap in the german defense, apart of loosing completly their most powerfull army the 6th, wich had the most veterans and experienced divisions, Russians had another favor on their side, their infinite amount of supply, germans couldnt keep up with, also germans biggest fault was to leave the flanks protected by italians and romanians, that was the main error that led to the disaster.
xTheWarlordx 1 year ago
Naval invasion of Britain in ww2? Nope he was never really that mad , okay maybe
jnmklo9 1 year ago
lol @ 2:39 one of the bombs flies away from all the other ones :P
13lackLight 1 year ago
@marcelo5252 Yes marcelo, that is the generally accepted view, according to Churchill and his, much needed plucky rhetoric.
But, don't forget this was aimed primarily, at wooing his mistress across the pond.
Look again at what the allies deemed necessary in June 44.
Then look at what the kriegsmarine had available in 1940.
Believe me, it was a joke.
011258stooie 1 year ago
@011258stooie I think it's important to note that the Atlantic Wall in 1944 was a much more formidable defense than what the British mounter on their coast in 1940. If Hitler had moced faster after the fall of France he might have been able to assemble a naval invasion force that could have led a successful invasion of England. But we'll never really know.
olivemike81 1 year ago
@olivemike81
I hate to keep banging on about this, on the back of a video about stalingrad, but I have studied this for years.
[1] To much creedence is given to the much vaunted stuka.
[2] The RN had 140+ destroyers, 40+ cruisers,5+ battleships and numerous mine sweepers & other smaller craft.
[3] The kriegsmarine [ after the norway debacle ], had 1 pocket battleship, 4 cruisers and less than 10 destroyers.
see what I mean ?
Not to mention the fierce reputation the RN, had to defend.
011258stooie 1 year ago
@011258stooie Sea power is obsolete without the air power to back it up. That was beyond proven in WW2.
olivemike81 1 year ago
@olivemike81 I thought we were talking about, why hitler didn't invade in 1940!
011258stooie 1 year ago
8:40 I would b worried about gettin hit with shrapnel.. a little to close for comfort lol
resin1985 1 year ago
Wilhelm Hoffman's reports are mentioned on "The Beginning of the Road" by Vasily Chuikov. However, this book has a limited historic value, since the author obviously spared Stalin from his unique ruthless.
Hoffman's diary (who Chuikov kept in his personal files) only emphasizes how German morale was collapsing at so ferociousresistance. Just figure out the impact on a regular German soldier who spent most of his life listening to Nazi propaganda demonizing Russians as "untermensch".
oralturinabol 1 year ago 8
What the song is from the minute 4.50
owca9696 1 year ago
@owca9696 Red Army Choir - Varshavienka or Varchavianka on english
atosafi1 1 year ago
Hitler's daily use of Methamphetamines (which is well documented) affected his judgement and his ego. He truly believed all that "Aryan cr*p" that his propagandists had been spewing. As far as hating the Jews goes, in the 1930's most countries were strongly anti-Semitic but not to the point of actually murdering them. Meth affects people's minds in strange ways...
randy95023 1 year ago
@randy95023 yes, he was taking meth (and other things, too) and there is a suspicion that he had syphillis, (he was being ttreated with mercury) which would cause mental imbalance, but another little corporal also tried to invade Russia and was finished by it. It seems to be that when a megalomaniac has finally gone over the edge, they try for the ultimate prize - Russia. It's just not possible to beat Russia; the people, terrain and climate defeat all comers.
TheBelovedButterfly 1 year ago
@randy95023
its pretty simple
germany just had to many enemy s
to big enemy s a to much spread territory thats hard to defend
and a fucking idiot cotnrolling the shots if germany didnt invade russia it couldve send more troops to the west and make it harder on the allies
might even be the war wouldve lasted longer
fortunatly it didnt
bleushift 1 year ago
@jlnijholt Otherwise I completely agree with you, but it was Chuikov, not Zhukov, who organized the defense. When Zhukov attacked and took all the glory, Chuikov and his 62nd Army became very bitter towards Zhukov.
AirborneFan101 1 year ago
After studying WW2 for over 30 years I thought I'd heard it all about Stalingrad. I recently read a book by Vasily Grossman, "A Writer at War". There are 4 chapters about Stalingrad where he served from September until German Surrender in January. He spent most days at the front and crossed the Volga about 12 times to file his reports. His writings are very poignant and human, almost poetic.
randy95023 1 year ago
theres three problems when invading russia.
1) The winter
2) There's millions of Russians waiting for you
3) It's soooo big
Gaddaf6 1 year ago 4
@Gaddaf6 Yes but it's worth it because the chicks are so hot.
kreepeemann 1 year ago
It's amazing how the will of a handful of Russian soldiers could resist the force of a German attack force.
andyllamanipl 1 year ago
In Vasily Grossman's book "Writer at War" there are a couple of chapters regarding the battles of Stalingrad. Grossman, a proud Soviet, but not a Communist writes truthfully and to the point. NO propaganda in his writings. He's in touch with the common soldier and risked his life by remaining at the front for weeks on the west bank of the Volga in Stalingrad. The Soviet soldier may have been the toughest soldiers anywhere in WW2. They accepted death completely, but truly wanted to survive.
randy95023 1 year ago
@randy95023 but to survive is to sacrifice,and they wont survive if stalin wasnt their leader that time,if it was someone else,they're surely gonna wind up like the french and other nations beaten by the nazis...
thanks to stalin,they survived...
as well as the world did survived,because of stalin...
hate it or like it,its the true fact!
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003 Indeed, we have Soviet and Stalin to thank for our free world today, although I doubt that Hitler would have ever been able to achieve all of his goals and stay at the seat of power. There were just too many resistance movements and different races in the world for Hitler to be able to eradicate them all and crush all opposition.
Thanks to Stalin's total disregard to human lives he crushed the nazis.
atosafi1 1 year ago
@atosafi1 lol,and that would make a good statement for those who saved the world from the hands of the nazis?
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003
It was both good and bad, Stalin's reign put a stain on communism and to this day people think of Stalin and how many he murdered when someone says 'Soviet' or 'Communism', although none of it had anything to do with communism.
Although without him Germany would have taken the oil fields and Soviet would have collapsed, allowing the nazis to put all of their forces on Normandie which means D-Day would have failed.
I guess it's what I'd call tough luck.
atosafi1 1 year ago
@atosafi1 ok,if you were stalin,how would you deal with those who believe in the western beliefs,those who are very selfish not to deliver what's good for the nation,those who have personal interest and dont muchly care about others,those who would definitely sell the soviet union in the name of selfishness,those who play around and abuse the weak,and those who will forske the motherland?
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003 It would never come to that since I would have done it proper from th e start.
atosafi1 1 year ago
@atosafi1 proper?how?i guess you just don't seem to understand their situation and could only say "i would have done it proper from the start"
i feel sorry for you man,my best regards to your narrow mind...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@atosafi1 just put in your mind,you're a smart and a brilliant person who knows how politics are run,and you have absolute power and a dictator...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@atosafi1 Very interesting, yet Stalin, like Hitler, had little knowledge of miltary matters. It was a general by the name of Zhukov - who had earlier defeated the Japs in Manchuria - who organized the defense and offense at Stalingrad, as he had done succesfully with Moscow in 1941-'42, driving the Germans back from the capital.
jlnijholt 1 year ago
@jlnijholt it's a 1000 wonders Stalin didn't shoot him
truthtone58 1 year ago
Full credit to the Soviet soldier, he was an excellent fighting man and very ably led. J.V. Stalin and the Soviet high command made mistakes and lost battles; but they never came close to making as many mistakes as Hitler, whose strategic blundering on all fronts cost Germany the war. And it is axiomatic in war that the side that makes the least mistakes wins.
RDDR4848 1 year ago 3
"we knew both men were mad but we chose to follow Stalin because he spoke Russian" Soviet officer 1941
the soviet soldier could give a shit about country in the end he was fighting to see the next day
wake up Hitler on purpose lost the war. read Hitler's second book he talks about the new world order
otto skorzeny who founded the CIA confessed to an author who wrote "the bush connection" buy at bush connection website ratted out Hitler who faked his death and was smuggled into America
godscuttingyoudown 1 year ago
@RDDR4848 not actually,the truth is that the side who could learn from their mistakes much better,doesnt matter how much mistake it is,could win the war...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
This world will never survive another war like this.
skrininow 1 year ago 3
don't worry the NEW WORLD ORDER is coming soon to protect the cowards because the real men died from wars past
godscuttingyoudown 1 year ago
@skrininow yes it can,if it means uniting the world,and end the bs thing of disunity and separate rule,that UN is the most bs alliance ever,its nothing more than a puppet for US n its allies...
our planet needs to be united and be ONE,and end the civil war and AMERICAN EMPIRIALISM in the world!!!
teslagod2003 1 year ago
Actually, the communist regime turned Russia from a agricultural backwater country into a superpower, and then Boris Yeltsin and Gorbachev fucked it all up
atosafi1 1 year ago
@atosafi1 communism did that at the cost of millions of human lives. As Lenin said, "The ends justify the means". So terrorizing and killing millions of people for dictatorship of the proletariat and revolution did work but turned the country into 1/3 the agricultural and industrial output it was under the tsar. If it wasn't for the US to send millions of tons of food and material into the country (WW1 + WWII) then communism wouldn't have lasted long in Russia. Capitalism saved communism ironic
djbmx91 1 year ago
Soviet wasn't even communist, no country in the whole world has been communist, they are socialist states ruled by communist parties so i don't know what you're talking about when you say communism.
Soviet would have managed anyway and America never sent anything into Soviet during WW2 only WW1 and at that point they had a tsar and not a communist regime so you are wrong.
atosafi1 1 year ago
atosafi1. I don't know where you got your history but you've got it wrong. I recommend reading the book "Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler. The Age of Social Catastrophe" by Robert Gellately. I agree with the Soviet was not a pure communist state because as Lenin and Stalin found out you have to use terror and force to make it work. But how can you say the Soviet would have "managed" anyway? I guess millions of people dying of starvation doesn't matter. It's just a necessary step to utopia.
djbmx91 1 year ago
@djbmx91
Do not judge communism based on the actions of some, but by its very own definition.
atosafi1 1 year ago
@atosafi1 where did you get you're info?US supplied the russians their "lend and lease program",its not aid,but istill supplied it to the russsians,which they later paid...
so how do you define communism?
teslagod2003 1 year ago
americans always save everything dont they
isss98 1 year ago
@isss98 always?how?why?when?you're prolly insane and out of your mind,or your just plain american fag...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
dude after krushchev the soviet union went on a slow decline. kinda like the roman empire but faster.
evilwatermelon 1 year ago
@evilwatermelon well that's simply because they ruined stalin and they forgot that it was stalin who held the soviet union intact in every best way...
his tactics,prolly brutal and inhuman,but thats his way of fighting corruption and western influence,he's just giving the russian people some pride of theirown and be russian,not western...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
Russian people are great. They were never lucky with their governments though.
RabidBunnyRabbit 1 year ago 3
Russians kicked ass. So true.
scorkungen 2 years ago
We all know where the russians got those tommy guns....
jimmy27paul 2 years ago
They are not refering to American Tommy Gun
southlandasss 2 years ago 2
What tommy guns then? its an american made gun.
jimmy27paul 2 years ago
I am sure it is a loose translation from German and being a primarily English production, the use of Tommy Gun gave the viewing audience somewhat of an image to understand. I am sure they are refering to the Russian PPD40. Though through lend lease they did receive a few Thomson SMG, it would ahev been rare to see one in action at Stalingrad.
southlandasss 2 years ago 4
Those are not tommy guns, they are Called PPSH
TheRedRuski 2 years ago 2
basically russians kicked ass. Germans kicked ass in the defense of berlin too...BUT, although close, still , no cookie
RUSSIAmiami 2 years ago
russians kicked ass when germany's reserves worldwide were wiped out. In the beginning germany man-handled russia, and some would say if there was no second front, germany would've routed russia in months.
Evocati2008 2 years ago
Those who say that are mistaken.
lancer89032 2 years ago
and those who disagree ate way too many paint chips as a kid
Evocati2008 1 year ago
@Evocati2008 yea it they might
poulstrup123 1 year ago
In the beginning Germany launched a surprise invasion of Russia. Of course it was a rout in the beginning and what else could it be?
Germany was headed for defeat way before the Normandy invasion (1944). After Stalingrad (1942) Germany's goose was cooked. It was just a matter of time.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but everyone is not entitled to their own facts. Your facts are mistaken. I suggest you read 'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich' by William Shirer.
lancer89032 1 year ago 3
The German mobile reserves and territorial defenses were demolished in the West. I don't know what history books you read from, but if you think Russia would've gotten anywhere near Berlin with those troops in place, rather than dying in France, then you got some good weed in your bong.
Evocati2008 1 year ago
I doubt you have read even one history book in your life.
RabidBunnyRabbit 1 year ago
i see the truth hurts you, hence the oh so snappy retort. i'm being sarcastic.
Evocati2008 1 year ago
No, the truth does not hurt me. My grandfather served in Russian army and he was in Berlin himself. That is the truth, but why it should hurt me?
RabidBunnyRabbit 1 year ago
IF I WERE TO BELIEVE YOU, I'd say "great, be proud", but since I don't.... I repeat my statement. If the last German reserves and territorial defenses hadn't been destroyed and diverted to the west, the Russians would NEVER, EVER had reached Berlin. The amount of Germans running to the western forces to surrender is also another factor. With no western front, Russia gets bogged down...just like Germany did in Russia. Stalemate.
Evocati2008 1 year ago
Hitler had been warned and all of his prussian generals were in fear 'of the war on two fronts'. There could never be a stalemate, german people were obsessed with hitler in the 1930s, the russian offensive was a war of annihilation,doesnt matter where you are, you try to eradicate a civilised country, they will fight to their last breath as the russians did.'A bohemian corporal' was leading millons of people to thier death and in the end he shot himself like the coward he was...
dvega1 1 year ago 3
Yes hitler was a coward, and all that. My POV is just straight militray history, forget the politics. If those 9 elite reserve panzer divisions were available to the German High Command, and they would have adopted Hienz Guderains defense plan for a Russian invasion, Zhukov would have been stopped and bogged down before getting anywhere near Berlin. Thus the reason why Stalin was so adamant about opening a western front. He knew he could not beat germany alone.
Evocati2008 1 year ago
I agree with you about Shirer. He calls the disaster at Stalingrad "The Great Turning Point". Though the Germans tried to regain the upper hand at Kursk, the advantage lay with the Soviets.
habsmeister09 1 year ago
50 years of problems were caused by OSS and CIA, and after 1948, more problems were cause with the help of mossad and ZOG.
so lets not.
RUSSIAmiami 2 years ago
alexander33345: Yeah they definetly took the brunt of it...
Ron323 2 years ago
I can't belive there is still a city today where stalingrad was. That place was bombed too hell..not 1 building remained full.
DarkHour404 2 years ago
Berlin was just as worse trashed. Amazing isn´t it?
obbabob 2 years ago 2
Poor soldiers, both soviets and germans...
They must of been through hell being in that craphole.
Ron323 2 years ago
the germans had it comming
alexander33345 2 years ago 13
@alexander33345 Absolutely.
TheBelovedButterfly 1 year ago
it was all an inside job wake up never invaded britain ??? never invaded switzerland ..??? look at who funded hitlers rise to power presscott bush do your homework please
grilfers 2 years ago
Battle of Britain...In 1941 the RAF kicked the Luftwaffe's ass and so Operation Sealion (the invasion of Britain) was cancelled. You should do your homework and stop talking shite...."An inside job" you deluded fool.....
Kralhonj 2 years ago
bullshit. napoleon took moscow. and what?
y3623951 2 years ago
The Germans should have listened to General Guderian , he wanted to go all out for Moscow, that would have cut the head off the beast and the whole country would have collasped. That was by the Russians after the war, Guderian was the only to call Hitler stupid in his face and survive, why because he was why with Rommel they defeated france in six weeks and he never forgot that. Stalin was a worse evil than Hitler ,look what aiding him got the US 50 years of problems. They are a bunch of savage.
eduardalet 2 years ago
Russians are not savages. If Nazis will, they will kill everyone who was not 'Aryan' in Europe. Germany had plans to build an atom bomb to target America as well. They were building the long range V2 rocket so they can put a nuclear warhead that can reach US!!!. Also don't forget they promised Mexico that Mexicans will get lands back from Americans if they sided with Nazis !!!! THANK GOD ALLIES WON!!!!
flyonthewall37 2 years ago
The U.S. supplied Britain and the Russians with huge amounts of war material, long before actually joining the fray. Without U.S. involvement, the Brits and Russkies would be goose stepping and giving the nazi salute.
opiewontaylor 2 years ago
If the Soviet Union had not been there to wipe out the bulk of the German military. The Nazis would have seized the vast oil and steel reserves of Russia and invaded Britain and eventually the US. Get it right.
redmunkee 2 years ago
while there is no doubt that american help was appreciated....the brits were holding hitler at bay.
JamesArranMcGregor 2 years ago 3
America's biggest contribution was its factories were out of range therefore producing vast amounts of war materials. All due respects for the soldiers: my dad was a combat pilot i the European theater.
holajim 2 years ago
The US played a vital role in the Pacific theatre - had they buckled after Pearl Harbour a Japanese assault on the USSR would have denied them vital reserves at Moscow in 41 and Stalingrad in 42. Britain's contribution was - of course - not losing in 1940-1. Without either effort - or the great Soviet efforts - Hitler would not have been stopped. Remember all those who fought so that we can be free.
crimpo 2 years ago 2
You obviously don't know much about WWII. The Russians won the decisive battle at Stalingrad when American aid was still small. They won their second decisive battle at Kursk a full year before D-Day.
jsmithe315 2 years ago 3
The Battle of Stalingrad is probably the one area where I feel sorry for the Nazis, given what the soldiers suffered through. That being said, it's probably for the better that they lost.
Thornfox 2 years ago
If you understood history Patsyd80, you would know that the D-Day invasion succeeded because Stalin launched Operation Bagration at the same time that soaked up almost all the German's elite divisions and armor. In fact, the Red Army destroyed and captured in that operation German forces greater than all the german forces on the Western Front. D-Day only determined where the line between USSR/Western influence would be in post war Europe, not the outcome of the war.
calripson 2 years ago
Exactly Calripson. About 56 German divisions in West--over 200 in the East.
jsmithe315 2 years ago
Someone smart enough to give credit where credit is due. The Russians were really brave and made the most sacrifices. Don't malign the Russians. They are just misunderstood people during the cold war.
flyonthewall37 2 years ago 2
d day was a cake walk to the eastern front. 2nd string old men and ukrainians. the more i learn about the 2nd ww i dont think america and us "england" could have stood up to the germans with out the russians. their leader was pure evil but the red army was great.
patsyd80 2 years ago 5
Do not underestimate the technical aspects of the D-day landings. Although the casualties were nothing like Stalingrad, the D-day landings were in a different way a comparable stragegic and tactical success to Stalingrad.
mc0558 2 years ago
@patsyd80 no,ur partially wrong,their leader stalin isnt that evil,u brits and amricans are more evil than stalin!stalin only did what he believe is best for the soviet union,all the deaths were meant to discipline his people and troops,and you faggots used this propaganda to ruin his great honor and his great effort in providing the world a better place.
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003 just thinkwell,if stalin wasnt the leader of the soviets that time,the nazis and its allies could'ved easily wiped out the reds,but stalin is cold and hard,and that attitude spread throughout his army and his people,which helped them stood up and beat the nazis.
teslagod2003 1 year ago
Ha!!!! The generals kissed.
lamrof 2 years ago
I admire so much what the RAF did in the Battle of Britain and what Montgomery's soldiers did. I respect what the US did in the Pacific "island-hopping" and in Europe. But without the Russians, without Stalingrad, God knows what would have happened. Most western history books haven't told the truth about Stalingrad. And then there's Leningrad. I mean, look at the evidence!
nibevan 2 years ago 15
@nibevan
It was the Royal navy and it's 200 year old tradition that made hitler think twice in 1940. [ captains to be hung from there own yardarm if they refuse battle ]
Believe me .
Stalin executed 13'000 of his own troops for cowadice in the battle of stalingrad, but then went on to kill 9 out of 10 german soliders who died during the whole of WW2..
011258stooie 1 year ago
@nibevan During the Cold War, the Eastern Front was downplayed.
ANACONDA360 1 year ago
U guys are pointlessly arguing. British and Americans did thier equal share to win the war. Russians lost far more than both to beat the Germans, they suffered the most. Not to mention they had a crazy dictator of thier own that killed 20million of his own ppl. Although, the Atomic Bomb was highly top secret the British had nothing to do with it.
XXDildobaginsXX 2 years ago
MrKippers22, think u critisize too much. When ur nation barly escaped the Germans being pushed out of France, and so narrowly won the battle of Britan, if the Germans decided to send one last attack. The U.S.A would have to fight that war trying to liberate ur country too. Paton beat Montgomary at every turn in Africa and won the battle of the Bulge. Yea we didnt face the Germans at full strength, but they didnt do much to beat u guys. If anyone faced the full wrath of Germany it was Russia.
Sumoto999 2 years ago
Manhatan project, 100,000 citizens in U.S.A. to create it. We were bombed at Pearl harbor. Although I think Britan did very well against the Germans during the earlyer part of the War. Vietnam is another issue btw. 58,000 of ours dead. 1.5million of them dead (conscripts, and soldeires). Who rly won that, the only thing we lost with Veitnam was the war at home.
Sumoto999 2 years ago
Yea i agree with that. But 90% of the Pacific era was won by America. U left out the Russians at the very end helped in Korea. America did not win that war all by itself. But Britan didnt defeat Germany all on its own is my point. World War II was won by a team effort. Just hate it when someone says one general won the whole damn thing.
Sumoto999 2 years ago
I think it may be appropriate to say that the mini-series itself should be acknowledged as well as the history on display. Sir Jeremy Isaacs produced a great saga on WWII and deserves the credit. Also I love Carl Davis' score from the series, primarily on the Russian episodes.
Midnaswolf47 2 years ago
The yanks would have been destroyed if they'd faced the Nazis at full strength instead of watching and doing nothing for years.
MrKippers22 2 years ago 2
Oh RLY?
Care to explain what happened to the Afrika Korps in Tunisia in 1943?
EvilFingers 2 years ago
MONTGOMERY.
MrKippers22 2 years ago
Montgomery did not single handedly defeat the Germans and get your head out of our ass and quit thinkin like a Cocky Schoolboy
EvilFingers 2 years ago
America didn't defeat anybody single handed and did't joined in for years.
The British fought alone and faced the Germans at their mightiest.
YOU WATCHED - COWARDS.
MrKippers22 2 years ago
yea, and while you were fighting side by side with our forces, the French, and the Russians on the East. America fought and defeated the entire Japanese Empire on its own. We rescued Sigapore, you narrowly escaped the battle of britan.
Sumoto999 2 years ago
"America fought and defeated the entire Japanese Empire on its own"
Sumoto, that's a sweeping statement. I'd draw your attention to Australia and New Zealand, The British, The Chinese etc who were all fighting against the Japanese empire. America did not defeat Japan "on its own" by any stretch of the imagination.
Singapore fell to the Japanese anyway.
If your point is that the Americans won the war, you're wrong. It was a team effort.
xFENRISx 2 years ago
Excuse me but Russians also contributed to Japanese defeat.
darkon112 2 years ago 3
Wrong, the whole empire was defeted in China by Russia - watch
(4/10) Battlefield II The Battle of Manchuria World War II
DinoPal 2 years ago
And the British, Australians, New Zealanders. The Chinese did a great deal against the Japs.
The bomb was British technology anyway.
The British faced the nazia at their full strength and beat them. You joined in at the end and your mainland was never bombed. It was easy for you.
Then you got defeated and humiliated in Vietnam. I'll respect you when you prove yourselves to have some balls and not just money hunger.
MrKippers22 2 years ago
MrKipper, I don't think we need to insult our American friends and allies.
mc0558 2 years ago
The truth hates mate.
MrKippers22 2 years ago
Then, when it is as egregious as this, keep it to yourself.
mc0558 2 years ago
It's great how every part of this great documentary has a few people constantly arguing in the comment section.
Don't you just love youtube!
Foombarrow 2 years ago 3
Hitler was such a loser... especially in commanding battles...
CerberosNL 2 years ago 3
the dude was high off almost everydrug avalible at the time so its no wonder most of the time he couldnt even remeber peoples names.
StalkingRainbow 2 years ago
lucky russian, the greatest defense russian had are the russian winter, russian can't fight for sure, napoleon fail to take moscow due to winter, hitler fail on barbarossa campaign, and stalingrad.
pokermaniac0978 2 years ago
Hitler didn't learn on Napoleon's mistakes. History like to repeat itself ;)
EnhancedNightmare 2 years ago
Napoleon took Moscow and burned it down go back to school
lssahwolf 2 years ago
haha , the Russians burned it down you fool and before Moscow they halted his army to a standstill something that napoleon didn't expect.
darkon112 2 years ago
Mate as i told u go back to school and dont call me fool!
lssahwolf 2 years ago
I'm not your mate and it's common knowledge that Russian burned down Moscow themselves.
Education you should get one ..actually nevermind you come from a third world country that explaines a lot.
darkon112 2 years ago
but napoleon captrued it as well as polish army and one more thing i am german yuo stupid fukface
lssahwolf 2 years ago
How could i have known that you are German it's not like you told me ....despite that education you need to get one.
darkon112 2 years ago
no, it's because everyone denounces and underestimates the russians as barbarians. Weather doesn't win wars......
CiferAndMich 2 years ago
yeah the winter! and the patriotism, the deaths of 30000000 million people, the production of firearms, tanks,planes, artillery, the fact that the medical actions against diseses in stalingrad were better than the germans, a history of partisans defending their country form invasions.
And the great winter INDEED!
alexander33345 2 years ago
Oh yes, russians were so lucky! The winter arrived in the winter totally unexpectedly, of course nobody could foresee it! And russians naturally don't suffer of cold weather just because they have a special gene which makes them insensitive to cold.
toliakhilo 2 years ago
and they had winter clothes
ThaSweKillah 2 years ago
Lucky?? Battle of Kursk was in the middle of the summer and germans lost.
DinoPal 2 years ago 2
yeah but by then the russian winter had almost completley destroyed the axis forces in europe.
Blumbus23 2 years ago
What ? yeah it was only winter ...moron.
Have you even watched this series or read any book about the eastern front ?
darkon112 2 years ago
Wait arte you trying to say trhe winter was or was not important??
Blumbus23 2 years ago
this is true.
they were out planned. Kursk had been carefully mined and anti tank guns were placed to herd the advancing panzers into those deadly mine fields .
Germany could never regain the armament and men that was lost at kursk. from from that moment on they would be in a constant defensive retreat
johnnecron 2 years ago
What ? What a stupid statement. Have you watched this series or even read any books about the eastern front.
As far as Napoleon, Russians fought him to the standstill at Borodino.
By Napoleons own account: The most terrible of all my battles was the one before Moscow. The French showed themselves to be worthy of victory, but the Russians showed themselves worthy of being invincible.
darkon112 2 years ago
That was the British who defeated Napolean.
MrKippers22 2 years ago
Are you joking or are you just uneducated ?
darkon112 2 years ago
Whats the song the soviet force singing
darkon112 2 years ago
this is "mass grave of the Wehrmach"t it is here under spam ;)
kulikulda88 2 years ago
And what is it called in russian.
Thank you.
darkon112 2 years ago
The Varshvjanka.
sephodwyrm 2 years ago
This was my favorite episode in the series but after watching it a few times I found it too depressing.
KrillinGoku 2 years ago
Stalingrad was truly the Verdun of World War II. It was a true example of the irrestible force confronting the immovable object and guess who won?? A real tragedy for both sides, but ultimately destructive enough to mark the beginning of the end of the Wehrmacht in Russia and of the Third Reich in general.
videoman10 2 years ago
vorne auf der Wolga
emmteez 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
mass grave of the Wehrmacht
AlexAmerling19 3 years ago 3
Great documentary
Anyone know the title of the song at 4:48?
MauserKar98k 3 years ago 5
Stalingrad mas grav!
omtat2 3 years ago 4
mass grave of the wehrmacht
AlexAmerling19 3 years ago 3
Lunacy.
timboslayer 3 years ago
Mother Russia
mpc12345678 3 years ago 4