I have a 2010 drz 400 and the bike bike did lack traction but it wasn,t the tyres it was the suspension. Spung to your weight and revalved and shimed also a 3mm lenghten on the rear shock the bike hooked up better with a bald tyre than before with a brand new one. i also put on 1 1/2 inch bar raisers and pro taper r/c high and set them a little forward(total around 3 to 4 inchs taller). now the bike is a different machine and super easy to ride.
i have a drz 400 2000 kick start model,, two brothers racing pipe ,after market fat bars ,,it goes well ,,luv it on the trails,, at the end of the day you buy a bike suited to wat u want to do,, who gives a fuck what you ride as long as at the end of the day ya go out and have fun,, wat lifes about,,,ride on...............
Retarded "review", comparing it's looks to a sports bike... The DRZ WOULD be a great bike, but it's just lacking the power. Tis a shame, i'd buy one if they would just beef it up a little. I'll stick with my XR650R until then!
whats wrong with the handlebars? and tyres that fair enough they will wear out and u have to change em to wat u want but whats wrong with the handlebars?
Love the way these two have absolutely the dumbest points of view and total lack of ability to explain the bikes features without always going the negative on it. Man this is a not a race bike, not a motorcross bike, not an ultra high performance bike they say. It is a great design, well engineered and time tested and proven FUN machine, totally reliable and very affordable.Good real world bike
@OlBlueshound Great review from You...!.... However maybe ur not good looking enough to put on the show... and do I sense a bit of jealousy??? Ive heard them say negative reviews many times and they're honest about each bike. ur a cockadoodledoo.
@Candiassss Lol "sense a bit of jealousy" WTF are you talking about retard? My comment stands, I own one now plus a few other bikes as well. For your info, I am good lookin' (well hung too) but not interested in their show. When you say you've heard them say negative reviews many times, THAT'S MY F'#@KEN POINT ISN'T IT STUPID? They struggle to review it without poo pooing on it all the time. Some people are best not opening their mouth, coz it shows others what goes on in their head!
Also, If i was to buy a bike and I am 172.5cm (5ft7.5") and I found Aprilia pegaso 650Trail very comfortable for my height and it's not a heavy bike for me to go around the city and to the bush. So, which bike should i go for, Suzuki DRE650, 400 or the Pegaso 650Trail?
Wow when the fro was doing the 1/4 miles the drz was looking like she had a good acceleration.. but that stupid idiot did a wheelie:).. i wish i could see the difference between a 450
@GodsOfWrestling 450's are race bikes, also have a lower top speed, and the drz will easily hit top speed in a quarter, i do it on mine all the time haha. It woulda been great to see, i definantly know what theyre talking about with the front tire, mines a little worn (new back) and i cant keep it hooked up for anything on gravel, just washes out all the time
8 sec 1/4 mile for a CRF..................... yeah sure. Im going to go and trade my GSXR1300 Hayabusa for one, because it can't do that down a drag strip let alone down a wet gravel road. I wonder how the DRZ would have gone if it had a Honda sticker on it, much better me thinks, seen as the show is brought to you by Honda.
i think the old DRZ got a bit of a rough go here...de restrict the exhaust....drop the gearing.....and there a good bike....they fairly get up and go....especially if you re jet them.....As a trail bike there great....if you look when the fro rides it, its ALOT faster than when the other 2 guys ride it......
Go educate yourself at Akrapovic and have a look at the dyno charts for a tuned and piped 09 EFi kx450f - Besides if you read what I said, I said it will do 48hp with the $1000 pipe!
This 400 will do LESS than 41hp at the WHEEL and would weigh in at GIANT 260lbs (120kg) Carry that over a log or 20
A KTM200exc (96kg) WILL have more HP than this 400 (120kg) and cant drop a valve or need them replaced EVER
If you dont have a better come back dont bother responding.
RMZ450 as tested by MotoUSA and published by them. Akropovic has dyno's on them all CRF KXF ++
I own the 200 = Son and the 300 = Mine
I have owned and raced a LOT of two stroke and have ALSO owned the CRF!!
Repair bills for the 2 strokes = $0
The CRF was sold INSIDE 12 MONTHS FROM NEW!!!!!
If you ride the DRZ or RMZ like a OLD WOMAN they will both last for while...Give them revs and the POS will die ASAP and WILL cost $1000+ for rebuild inside months.
Requires a specialized dyno and jigs to measure HP off the crank on a bike!
Crank figures are almost always calculated backwards on a CALCULATOR with a 12% differential to WORK OUT a approximate figure from a normal dyno you fool.
Who takes their motor out and has jigs made for a dyno that does NOT exist in your city to find out how much HP it has?
As for the 200 Yep it nails a KTM450exc 0 to 60mph every time. Son has done that over and over!
One for the genius on the page You do know that on MANY tracks 35hp & 21ft/lbs @ 106kg is faster than 48hp & 42ft/lbs @ 116kg Thats 250F vs 450F PRO How will 50hp & 38ft/lbs @ 90kg go? KG is KEY On some OPEN tracks a 450F is nano seconds faster than a 250F piloted by pro's What do the ALL PRO's retire onto What won MX until 05 when they were banned by the AMA on behalf of Japan 2 recent 450 PRO test events in 09 with a KX250AF were held where the 250AF won by the ENTIRE MAIN STRAIGHT
@JustEnduro DRZ400E HAS 48HP, DRZ400S HAS 40HP, AND RMZ450 HAS 56-58HP that means that the drz has about 10 hp less than RMZ and what 450 MX doing 48hp???
NOBODY other than the maker does crank HP (75% BS)
99.9% is off the wheel
Worked backwards by a calculator is a 12% differential to work out crank HP at a given RPM - NOT ACCURATE AT ALL
Nobody with a ½ a brain bothers with any dyno other than a reputable and verified dyno NOT THE ODD BALL DOWN THE ROAD WHOS DYNO IS NOT AND NEVER CALIBRATED
½ the point is performance and handling
other ½ the point of bikes is how much it cost to own & what will you get back for it when you sell it
Mate not everyone who rides is an absolute professional people who want to haul ass on the track should get a 2T but 4 people like me i can't be fucked with 2T i would take a 4T anyday
Why would anybody buy a bike a MODERN 250/450 if they were not going to race the bike The rebuilds and maint on them are unbelievable! Running cost is 10X higher than any 2 stroke and requires TLC ALL THE TIME!
It is NOT normal to repair a new bike for at least 3 to 5 years
3 to 5 years with $0 expense
Enduro bikes will lug along the bottom as hard as any 4 stroke with the added option of low flying if need be. $0 cost and < $150 rebuilds once every couple of years.
i was wondering if anyone could tell me is this bike worth makeing road leagal because i want to doo a bit of touring to some rough places but need to no will i have to change to road tyeres to get to theis places like u do with some bike (i.e is it good on the road as well as off with out changein tyres ????????????)
I currently own a drz400 it is a bit of a handful on the road with dirt tyres but if u get semi road and dirt tyres u should b right, and full reg u usualley need two mirrors and full indicators ETC
Good bike for the price, softer ride and heavier than wr and crfx (no good for jumping). I'm doing a lot of trails now days so I put a 13 front sprocket to have more torque,
Thinking of buying a crf250x which is lighter than any 400 or 450 on this trails and have good response
It's a trailbike and does everything well, not exceptional, just well. Very capable in the scrub, but you have to spend big dollars if you want it to go anything like an enduro bike like a CRF, WR or EXC. They really have taken the place once occupied by the trusty XR's, and are really well priced new.
these guys are copying "the stig" with "the fro" come on guys really??
porscheman912 1 day ago
I have a 2010 drz 400 and the bike bike did lack traction but it wasn,t the tyres it was the suspension. Spung to your weight and revalved and shimed also a 3mm lenghten on the rear shock the bike hooked up better with a bald tyre than before with a brand new one. i also put on 1 1/2 inch bar raisers and pro taper r/c high and set them a little forward(total around 3 to 4 inchs taller). now the bike is a different machine and super easy to ride.
loznchad 3 months ago
Not a 400e model. That's the 400S.
bombmaker2 3 months ago
i have a drz 400 2000 kick start model,, two brothers racing pipe ,after market fat bars ,,it goes well ,,luv it on the trails,, at the end of the day you buy a bike suited to wat u want to do,, who gives a fuck what you ride as long as at the end of the day ya go out and have fun,, wat lifes about,,,ride on...............
metaldwnunda 3 months ago
'Although it doesn't look like an A-Grade, racing machine. It's very comfortable to ride'. That doesn't even make sense?
mealsy 4 months ago
Their just reading out the 'Features page' on the website.....
SoCalledFreeman 4 months ago
Retarded "review", comparing it's looks to a sports bike... The DRZ WOULD be a great bike, but it's just lacking the power. Tis a shame, i'd buy one if they would just beef it up a little. I'll stick with my XR650R until then!
fionnoc 5 months ago
whats wrong with the handlebars? and tyres that fair enough they will wear out and u have to change em to wat u want but whats wrong with the handlebars?
meda789 6 months ago
ggg
MrDrzRider 8 months ago
in saying that
spencer150r 9 months ago
its stupid the drz doesnt have a kick start too because what if your batery runs out
doctorknockers00 10 months ago
@doctorknockers00 clutch start? its a bike not a car u can push it ur self
meda789 6 months ago
@meda789 pretty much impossible to pop the cluch to start it unless you have tons of grip and a good hill to push it down
snowyphil65 6 months ago
it's also a bike that is easly modded or bought in other forms. ex:supermoto
Dirtracer117 10 months ago
Love the way these two have absolutely the dumbest points of view and total lack of ability to explain the bikes features without always going the negative on it. Man this is a not a race bike, not a motorcross bike, not an ultra high performance bike they say. It is a great design, well engineered and time tested and proven FUN machine, totally reliable and very affordable.Good real world bike
OlBlueshound 1 year ago 10
@OlBlueshound Great review from You...!.... However maybe ur not good looking enough to put on the show... and do I sense a bit of jealousy??? Ive heard them say negative reviews many times and they're honest about each bike. ur a cockadoodledoo.
Candiassss 1 month ago
@Candiassss Lol "sense a bit of jealousy" WTF are you talking about retard? My comment stands, I own one now plus a few other bikes as well. For your info, I am good lookin' (well hung too) but not interested in their show. When you say you've heard them say negative reviews many times, THAT'S MY F'#@KEN POINT ISN'T IT STUPID? They struggle to review it without poo pooing on it all the time. Some people are best not opening their mouth, coz it shows others what goes on in their head!
OlBlueshound 1 month ago
this is more like an advert then a review
Boristhe3rd 1 year ago
Great video guys.
Also, If i was to buy a bike and I am 172.5cm (5ft7.5") and I found Aprilia pegaso 650Trail very comfortable for my height and it's not a heavy bike for me to go around the city and to the bush. So, which bike should i go for, Suzuki DRE650, 400 or the Pegaso 650Trail?
Any suggestion welcome.
PlasticC4 1 year ago
@PlasticC4 drz650 cause suzuki is more reliably and POPULAR than aprilia. think about parts availability
meda789 6 months ago
I have the old agbike with suspension & BB & it's a more than capable trailbike as well as some club level MX if you want.
I raced Finke on it & the old ag bike handled that fine & was more than capable of a top 50 finish.
It would be a better test against the MX orientated bikes with the crap Bridgestone tyres replaced with some MX tyres like the other bikes run.
The Std Gritty ED02/Ed03 tyres are the worst dirt tyres I have ever ridden on would be worth easy 5 seconds a lap or more.
gizmoe76 1 year ago
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gizmoe76 1 year ago
This is an ad, not a review
tosgem 1 year ago 6
Wow when the fro was doing the 1/4 miles the drz was looking like she had a good acceleration.. but that stupid idiot did a wheelie:).. i wish i could see the difference between a 450
GodsOfWrestling 1 year ago
@GodsOfWrestling 450's are race bikes, also have a lower top speed, and the drz will easily hit top speed in a quarter, i do it on mine all the time haha. It woulda been great to see, i definantly know what theyre talking about with the front tire, mines a little worn (new back) and i cant keep it hooked up for anything on gravel, just washes out all the time
phil656565 1 year ago
i feel like they are testing it for motor cross skills when its a dual sport not even a trail bike
misslemike1 1 year ago
Addition and subtraction functions? Who needs that on a dirt bike?
CrimsonHazmat 1 year ago
hey im 300lbs and i was wondering if the suspension is adjustable for more wieght
454sskilla 1 year ago
8 sec 1/4 mile for a CRF..................... yeah sure. Im going to go and trade my GSXR1300 Hayabusa for one, because it can't do that down a drag strip let alone down a wet gravel road. I wonder how the DRZ would have gone if it had a Honda sticker on it, much better me thinks, seen as the show is brought to you by Honda.
660rappy 1 year ago
thats an e? I thought the drz400S was the street legal ones, or does the e come with lights, bilnkers and plates???
Xtremesportguys603 1 year ago
the crf450x does the '1/4 mile' in 8seconds, wtf!?
scott12at 1 year ago
i think the old DRZ got a bit of a rough go here...de restrict the exhaust....drop the gearing.....and there a good bike....they fairly get up and go....especially if you re jet them.....As a trail bike there great....if you look when the fro rides it, its ALOT faster than when the other 2 guys ride it......
gshdrums 1 year ago
he is always on the back wheel!!"thats bull shit!!
norflett 1 year ago
hdrsauron is an idiot
Vforce22 1 year ago
CARSandBIKES9, you dumass. You forget for weight...
Silapil 2 years ago
puta el weon imbecil queria saber el tiempo del cuarto de milla!
brucenash 2 years ago
Yes 'Cr250' smarty pants. The KLX400r has 48hp and 40 rwhp. You do the maths.
CARSandBIKES9 2 years ago
You are clearly in LALA land if you think a KLX can do 48hp
09 EFi KX450F does 47hp stock and 48.5 with a $1000 Akrapovic pipe LOL
Go to Akrapovic and have a look at the sales pitch dyno for their OWN pipe!
Goto to user dynochart on youtube and educate yourself a bit with actual dyno charts!
There are 125's here on youtube that can stay with 450's - Search - 125 vs 450 LOL
YOUR DRZ will do +/- 10hp!
LONG STROKE 4T like a TT600 = 38hp
/watch?v=3v0vSy8ee9w
/watch?v=uETicLn1I6Y
JustEnduro 2 years ago
40rwhp dick no the kx450f has 48.1rwhp you have to put it on a engine dyno in you want the engine hp daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
CARSandBIKES9 2 years ago
Go educate yourself at Akrapovic and have a look at the dyno charts for a tuned and piped 09 EFi kx450f - Besides if you read what I said, I said it will do 48hp with the $1000 pipe!
This 400 will do LESS than 41hp at the WHEEL and would weigh in at GIANT 260lbs (120kg) Carry that over a log or 20
A KTM200exc (96kg) WILL have more HP than this 400 (120kg) and cant drop a valve or need them replaced EVER
If you dont have a better come back dont bother responding.
JustEnduro 2 years ago
You`ve got no idea at all about this engine, its the drzE version ( evolution ) with orginal 49 hp.
you can´t compare a 200exc repair-bike with a very maintainable high tec engine.
HdrSauron 2 years ago
Really...So a DRZ make more HP than a RMZ450
MMMM...I'm sure LOL
All the High Performance MX 450's are doing around 48hp -- Dont like that then take it up with Suzuki / Honda and all the rest of them.
Are you sure a DRZ is doing MORE HP than a MXer????
ROTFLMAO
JustEnduro 2 years ago
a mx bike with 48hp? Maybe on the rear wheel.
Furthermore ive never said that the drz will beat a mx bike, you cant compare such bikes.
you compared a drz with a exc 200, that is the only thing wich is ridiculously.
have you got an exc one season?
sure, the drz isnt powerful like an exc but you dont have to spent thousands of dollars in to keep it runing, the drz just runs, runs and runs.
thats why we love this bike!
HdrSauron 2 years ago
RMZ450 as tested by MotoUSA and published by them. Akropovic has dyno's on them all CRF KXF ++
I own the 200 = Son and the 300 = Mine
I have owned and raced a LOT of two stroke and have ALSO owned the CRF!!
Repair bills for the 2 strokes = $0
The CRF was sold INSIDE 12 MONTHS FROM NEW!!!!!
If you ride the DRZ or RMZ like a OLD WOMAN they will both last for while...Give them revs and the POS will die ASAP and WILL cost $1000+ for rebuild inside months.
BEEN THERE AND DONE IT
JustEnduro 2 years ago
All dyno's for bikes are done at the wheel!!!!
Requires a specialized dyno and jigs to measure HP off the crank on a bike!
Crank figures are almost always calculated backwards on a CALCULATOR with a 12% differential to WORK OUT a approximate figure from a normal dyno you fool.
Who takes their motor out and has jigs made for a dyno that does NOT exist in your city to find out how much HP it has?
As for the 200 Yep it nails a KTM450exc 0 to 60mph every time. Son has done that over and over!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
The 450 comes pfly past after 60mph....IT IS A 450!!!
We ride rivers, rocks and ledges where a 180lb 200 will out class a 230+lbs 450 on ANY day. And you will NEVER do 60mph on the rocks!!!!
As for repair bills I have owned 2 stroke Enduro bikes for YEARS and never spent a $ EVER!
Why do you think a 2 year old 450 is worth nothing on trade in and a 200 or 300 is close to what you bought it for on the open market.
You still see YZ80's from the 80's still running and making the owner happy
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Bit of useless info for you
A YZ250 COMPLETE TOP END OFF EBAY IS LESS THAN $100
Rebuild in LESS THAN 45mins in the backyard.
You cant even buy the valves required for a rebuild for a RMZ @ $50+ EACH = $200+ AND BEST DONE BY A PRO EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS Also need
When you change the valves you MUST change the springs! gaskets & springs on top of that LOL
Even a OIL change on a CRF will cost $20 if done by the book - The book specifies a oil filter change on every oil change = $20 + OIL!
WTF
JustEnduro 2 years ago
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@JustEnduro DRZ400E HAS 48HP, DRZ400S HAS 40HP, AND RMZ450 HAS 56-58HP that means that the drz has about 10 hp less than RMZ and what 450 MX doing 48hp???
Artizz260 1 year ago
NOBODY other than the maker does crank HP (75% BS)
99.9% is off the wheel
Worked backwards by a calculator is a 12% differential to work out crank HP at a given RPM - NOT ACCURATE AT ALL
Nobody with a ½ a brain bothers with any dyno other than a reputable and verified dyno NOT THE ODD BALL DOWN THE ROAD WHOS DYNO IS NOT AND NEVER CALIBRATED
½ the point is performance and handling
other ½ the point of bikes is how much it cost to own & what will you get back for it when you sell it
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Modern 4T are a pile of monkey shit
GREATEST sales CON JOB done on riders in HISTORY
People will look back and wonder what those idiots were thinking from 2000 to 2010
A bit like smoking Were they on crack to think it was ok
HP people are raving about in 09 was done 30 years ago on dinosaurs that NEVER broke down
4T is for idiots who cant ride or think clearly - like it all to happen nice and S L O W L Y!
Every wannabe has one - and dunb enough to apply AMA rules to paddock bashers
FOOLS
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Mate not everyone who rides is an absolute professional people who want to haul ass on the track should get a 2T but 4 people like me i can't be fucked with 2T i would take a 4T anyday
bob22338 2 years ago
Thats ½ the point
Why would anybody buy a bike a MODERN 250/450 if they were not going to race the bike The rebuilds and maint on them are unbelievable! Running cost is 10X higher than any 2 stroke and requires TLC ALL THE TIME!
It is NOT normal to repair a new bike for at least 3 to 5 years
3 to 5 years with $0 expense
Enduro bikes will lug along the bottom as hard as any 4 stroke with the added option of low flying if need be. $0 cost and < $150 rebuilds once every couple of years.
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Do you for one second think your DRZ140 can stay with a KTM144sx?
Do you think a 150R can stay with a 144sx?
A CR250 would demolish / DESTROY a KLX!
It would be a whole lot closer of a race with a EFi KX450F
Straight line drag 200lbs 50hp IS faster than 260lbs 50hp DO the math!
Get a grip and stop posting BS on every 2 stroke page you go too!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
While Im laying the boot in - Here's one more for you...
My 14 year old son on a 08 KTM200 WHOOPS Adults on 450's 0 to close to 100kmh (Garmin) in straight line across a paddock!
Done that so many times that nobody bothers to do this anymore - Its a running joke! (10ish bike lengths at 50kmh and even at a 100ish kmh)
A KLX400 is NOT a performance bike its a hybrid road sort of trail bike NOT a performance bike AT ALL!
IT WOULD HAVE NO HOPE EVER against a 200 never mind a worn CR250
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Yes but the CR250 has powerband that should give the CR some more boot.
bob22338 2 years ago
The bigger the 2 stroke the less power band it has!
65sx has 0 power @ 9000rpm but all the power at 11000rpm
YZ85 has 0 power @ 6000rpm All at 10000rpm
CR500 will punch power out from the instant it is gassed at 1000rpm to max rpm at 5600rpm one solid hit all the way
The 300exc will do pretty much do the same. Pull from 1000rpm through to 8000rpm
YZ250 has less power band than an 85 BUT IT HAS A BIGGER HIT - wider band
Thats why they do race a YZ250 in Enduro (bigger spread of power)
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Depends what the bike was made for and what it will be used for is how hard the hit is
21hp from a tiny 85cc motor is a fairly big ask
CRF150R=20hp 14500rpm
Dyno shows a 85 creates more torque than a 150R
trIAls BIKES DO NOT HAVE A HIT AT ALL
320cc with a 28mm carb
300exc with a wild / mild button makes it a very easy bike to ride Best of both worlds
It is a matter of choosing how much you want to spend on a sport every year on repair bills Give me a 2 stroke that cant bend/drop a valve
JustEnduro 2 years ago
thats not an e its an s
blusky909 2 years ago
For Sure cause the E model doesn't come standard with brake and turn signals at least in CA don't know about Australia
ELuna3693 2 years ago
i was wondering if anyone could tell me is this bike worth makeing road leagal because i want to doo a bit of touring to some rough places but need to no will i have to change to road tyeres to get to theis places like u do with some bike (i.e is it good on the road as well as off with out changein tyres ????????????)
rockerkid99 2 years ago
I currently own a drz400 it is a bit of a handful on the road with dirt tyres but if u get semi road and dirt tyres u should b right, and full reg u usualley need two mirrors and full indicators ETC
bob22338 2 years ago
Good bike for the price, softer ride and heavier than wr and crfx (no good for jumping). I'm doing a lot of trails now days so I put a 13 front sprocket to have more torque,
Thinking of buying a crf250x which is lighter than any 400 or 450 on this trails and have good response
goldwing1964 2 years ago
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goldwing1964 2 years ago
It's a trailbike and does everything well, not exceptional, just well. Very capable in the scrub, but you have to spend big dollars if you want it to go anything like an enduro bike like a CRF, WR or EXC. They really have taken the place once occupied by the trusty XR's, and are really well priced new.
MontyMotoBoy 2 years ago
yeah if you like riding heavy ass bikes...
trailsallday4356 2 years ago
that does have power they fucking hammer
CARSandBIKES9 2 years ago
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mate my dads klx400r aka drz400e beat a cr250
CARSandBIKES9 2 years ago
i think it is perfect for enduro
lockie199 2 years ago