Jeff Davis tells Tamron Hall the Civil War wasn't about slavery

[TheMagicGuild8]

love you grandpa rip loved seeing you on here

[safarigoo]

Obviously it wasnt about slavery. If it was about slavery, why did the emancipation proclamation not come until almost 2 years after the war had started? The only reason slavery was brought up was to keep france and britain from helping the south.

[GotYoochun]

Wth, it was NOT about slavery. Abraham was using that case partially to his defense. Educate yourselves you dumb fucks.

[dsa4898]

Jefferson Davis is the REAL Uncle Sam.

[newfrickinshow]

@dsa4898

Jefferson Davis is the REAL Uncle Tom.

[newfrickinshow]

Can't handle the fact that your patriotic, freedom-loving ancestors committed treason in defense of their right to enslave others? Can't blame ya.

[pricegenealogy]

@newfrickinshow You have made a bold claim - treason. Support your claim with the Constitution, sir. 

[newfrickinshow]

@pricegenealogy

Bold? Very few times in the history of mankind has a simpler claim been made and the constitution has nothing to do with it. They took up arms against their home country. That's been the definition of treason since the time nations were first established.

[pricegenealogy]

@newfrickinshow Lincoln forced the issue. Davis said countless times that they just wanted to be left alone. If you doubt that, ask yourself why, when Lincoln only had less than 2000 men to defend Washington in early '61, and the CSA had over 20,000, didn't they attack? They were fighting for self defense, not treason. The Union comitted treason, not the south. Fort Sumter was fired upon because Lincoln forced the issue. He was no saint.

[newfrickinshow]

@pricegenealogy

First I would like to say that with Bleeding Kansas the Civil War actually started before Lincoln took office. The problem with Fort Sumter is Fort Sumter was a United States military base, the fact that some jackass fake president of a pretend country claimed it to be his base didn't change that. Public opinion was turning against slavery and after Kansas became a free state it became more likely slavery would become illegal. The south just felt free niggers were intolerable.

[newfrickinshow]

@pricegenealogy

From the Texas state's letter of secession:

"We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable. "

[pricegenealogy]

@newfrickinshow I never said slavery was morally right - that is a different debate. What you need to realize is that the south had COMPELTE constitutional right, granted under the 10th amendment, to seceed from the union, and work out the problem of slavery (which I contend would have been obsolete in 20 or so years). The Union committed treason, and the Fed. Repub. became a unitary state as a result. Lets point the finger of treason northward, where it should be pointed, shall we?

[newfrickinshow]

@pricegenealogy

The tenth amendment doesn't say states can leave the country. The mere idea that states can come and go at will or of their own accord is asinine. Allowing them to leave just because they disagreed with the policy of potentially ending slavery completely defeats the purpose of having a union in the first place. There's a reason the constitution has rules for joining the union but not leaving, because when you join it is for life.  For better or worse, til death do you part.

[SouthernFriedHoney]

@blikemike05 -- Lincoln offered, again to pay the slave owners -- oh wait, they forgot to tell you that, I guess.

Not 6% owned slaves you stupid shit -- try 50% of the families in South Carolina, and virtually 100% of people in power came from slave owning families

The South BRAGGED about how everyone that mattered owned slaves, or rented slaves, or wanted slaves, and used and profited from slavery.

That is what the SOUTH said at the time retard.

Learn real history

[3pendont4]

@SouthernFriedHoney Sounds exactlly like what Lincoln said about the blacks! expect that what Lincoln said quite a lot of negative things about blacks right before becoming president. Dude you are brain washed. there are way more sinister things than you know about history. I know u care a lot about blacks. I do to. I have blacks in my family and way back i may even have some blood. who knows. Are you black? The important thing is to not miss the REAL reasons for our wars! And for all of

[SouthernFriedHoney]

@3pendont4 wrong dumb fuck -- you are the one brain washed. As far as Lincoln's quotes idiot, read his full speeches, not the edited shit you fucks distort. I don't give a shit about blacks you dumb fuck, I'm telling you retards what happened.

Go on you stupid fuck -- read Lincoln's FULL quotes. Learn what his full meaning was, cause he SAID so in the full speech. And look what he did.

[3pendont4]

@SouthernFriedHoney and for all of us to stop wining about race! now days whats the difference what color you are??? All people should give up any racist stance or any bad feelings! yea there were bad things in the past across the world. not to decrease the value of that,but don't miss what they are trying to sneek past history. We now are all slaves thanks to the Civil War!!!!!!!!!

[SouthernFriedHoney]

@ fuck race you shit fer brains.

You retard-- the South had violently outlawed, and suppressed, free speech from 1820 on, even for WHITES you idiot. The government in the South told people what they could read, write, hear, say. Got that retard? Did you even know that?

Fuck no.

First, learn how Nazi like the South was from 1820-1861, and their violent ultimatums to force slavery into the states that DID NOT WANT IT.

Then get back to me, retard.

[BullshipDetector]

Not about slavery? Jeff Davis said the Confederacy was FOUNDED on slavery. The Vice President of the CSA said their nation was based on "the great moral truth" that God ordained the white man to enslave the black. Each Southern state that wrote official Declarations of Causes -- said slavery. But AFTER they lost the war,they changed their excuses. As Confederate leader Mosbey said "Of course it was about slavery - after the war, we all made up fancy excuses" (paraphrased).

[TheLilacglows]

The Confedracy's only beneficiary was the "wealthy, land owning, slave holding, white male", everyone else suffered under this system, don't celebrate a delusion.

[Hazmat347]

Tamron Hall could get it. Shes hot.