The conspiracy obsessed have placed 24 different gunmen in Dealey Plaza. Which one(s) was Umbrella Man signaling? I read he fired a poison dart from the umbrella into JFK as he drove by. If he was signaling, why would moving an umbrella up and down, in full view of the hundreds of people in Dealey Plaza be a good choice to send a signal? Wouldn't have been better to send the "assassinate him" signal that was less conspicuous?
Give me a break - an umbrella could also be used to shield a person from the sun. Are we to believe that someone opening an umbrella contradicts historical record and the testimony of eyewitnesses to the murders? These nutty conspiracy theories do not honor the memory of Mr. Kennedy or Mr. Tippitt.
the umbrella could have been used as a signal , though that would be some real amateur crap. It would make more sense that it would be used to attract the attention of the secret service, away from others.Or maybe it was used diabolically to protect the user from the sun.
My feeling is these types of mystery was the main reason for the suppression of the Zapruder film, to let the trail go cold for several years. Basically Life Magazine was picked to pay off Zapruder and keep it from public and media scrutiny. An odd person like the umbrella man, so conveniently positioned right at the assassination, should have been hauled in for questioning immediately. Whatever his missions was, it was accomplished.
THE ASSASSIN SAVED MORE LIVES THAN ALL GODS COMBINE INCLUDING JESUS INCLUDING YOUR OWN LIFE! JFK A DOUBLE O O SPIDER HELL BENT ON THE EXTICTION OF MANKIND (USE IR METER TO CONFIRM SKIN). JFK PLOT 4 THE 23THRD GLOBAL NUCLEAR AHNALIATION ANTICIPAITE CASUALTIES 600 MILLION 1ST PHASE WHILE JFK THREDIIDAE FAMILY WAITED SAFE & SOUND IN CAVES BY THE MILLIONS TO EMERGE AFTER FANG ENVENOMATE ANY SURVIVOR COLLECT FLESH & BONE REVENUE! THE WORLD OWES THE ASSASSIN & IT WAS NOT OSWALD OR ANY MENTIONED.
The Umbrella man was a heckle to the President about his father. Who was in support of the appeasement of Hitler. The Umbrella signifies Neville Chamberlain..
well as they said on msnbc last week they have since learned the unbrella man was murray the robber from the movie with jack lemon the out of towners.
These fuckn bastards can laugh about the overthrow of UNITED STATES PRESIDENT an elected official ? Everybody I know has a deep gut feeling that the Kennedys were taken out of the picture so the NWO could rise to power, there was nothing about that motorcade that didn't smack of SET-UP, how is it that good men get murdered in office while loathed lowlife scumbag criminals like Bush & cheney live on without a care in the world Go figure ?
what a farce. lets invite the umbrella man in and remind him to bring his umrella so we can open it up and see if some concealed wepon might be inside!
Oliver Stone didn't make anything up, he used several books (Jim Mars's for one) to base the story line and combined several witnesses and insiders into the Donald Sutherland character. He may have taken some artistic license to compact 20 years of research into a three hour movie. But Stone didn't make up anything.
@deboisblanc right but Jim Marrs is a liar. So Stone based his movie on obvious lies that a preschooler could see through. That's the same as making it up, essentially.
COME ON !!! do you think that if this man had anything to do with JFK's death via (in someway from his umbrlela) he would bring the samae umbrella !!!! PPFFFTT come on !! i would water board this guy, ask him heaps of questions, then waterboard him again....Oh by the way the warren report is a pill of shit.
This guy is a fraud..a "plant"...and, yeah, we all believe THAT is the umbrella! I have land in Florida to sell you. The umbrella was raised to put the site mechanism in position for proper alignment - he missed & hit JFK in the throat, turning the umbrella to "track" the target (JFK, obviously). The open umbrella signaled the mission was ON and to fire when the target is at this point. When JFK lunged forward to cough out the bullet in his throat, the shot from the rear hit 6" below his collar.
HEY THIS IS SOME SCARY SHIT MAN !!!, LIKE I WAS JUST WATCHING THIS VIDEO THAT WAS ABOUT AMERICAN FOOTBALL AND THEN IT TOOK ME TO THIS ABOUT JFK THATS LIKE RANDOM, THIS IS SOME SPOOKY MOTHER FUCKING SHIT THATS GOING DOWN ABOUT THIS GUY, I THINK USA IS HIDING SOME MAD STUFF, PEACE OUT !!!!
he was mimicking british prime minister neville chamberlain who, like joseph kennedy, formed a casual and friendly acquaintance with hitler and bought his b.s. hook, line, and sinker.
so it was a lovely form of protest. art really. nicely played. and now forever a part of history.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood And this comes from Mr. Liquor Rectum. Maybe you just, overall, have a problem with authority. Maybe after a couple of DUI's, you don't like the smell of starch when you see the Highway Patrol. Arrogance runs it's mouth about that which it has no clue. An amateur, of sorts. Arrogance also let his little half-pint brother act as dictator over the Affairs of State, and then rode through the streets of Dallas with the top down.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood I have more ammunition stockpiled, than you can imagine. In the literal sense as well. I much prefer copper and lead to sticks and stones. The assassination was actually very beautifully executed. The tough deal and the embarrassing point for the related agencies, is that the freak did it by himself.
@Wisemanifold Kennedy ordered the assassination of South Vietnamese President Deim. Johnson merely related the story. The reason Kennedy ordered this assassination was because Deim wanted to negotiate peace with North Vietnam. JFK could not afford peace in Vietnam before November of 1964. Kennedy was a ruthless political son-of-a-bitch. He and Deim were friends, but JFK sold Deim and peace down the river for political motivations. What JFK left undone cost 53,000 Americans their lives.
@Wisemanifold Johnson, on that particular tape, essentially says this: We gathered a bunch of Goddamned thugs, and we killed Deim. He goes on to say that "We haven't had any stability in the region since". I don't have any reverance for the memory of LBJ, but if you are going to smear the bastard, please put his remarks in context.
@Wisemanifold Let me tell you a sad little story, "wise-ass". I defend the CIA. It owes you no explanation for anything in this case, because it has never been established with one "shred" of evidence, that anyone OTHER THAN the pansy, patsy, smirking little Marxest freak Oswald fired a shot. Motive (he was a Marxist), Means ( he ordered a rifle), Opportunity (he worked in a building overlooking the route), it makes perfect sense to me. Better than 11 shooters, with no gun, no shells, etc. hehee
@LiquorWreckedEmGood E. Howard Hunt, to this day, has people like you exactly where he wants them. He wanted to be the final enigma with the deathbed confession, which incidentally, revealed essentially nothing.
Look at you pretending to know what was in the mind of E. Howard Hunt. Yes, what a good idea. What a fine idea to cap off a lifetime of toil and achievement, cop to the crime of the century, a crime you didn't commit.
Only a warped mind like yours could come up with anything that twisted and sick.
Exactly how many grams were used for analysis? How many do YOU estimate were in the wrist and thigh wounds? Are you even aware that the Carcano round was designed for this kind of penetration because of the Geneva Convention after WWI so that armed participants of future wars would not suffer fragmentation wounds? When did you last use a firearm? Are you proficient, or are you Maggie's Drawers? What personal experience qualifies you with the Turni 6.5 Italian Carcano, 1940? Or any firearm?
@BlueWolfe38 By what qualification do you question the legal authority of the Government of the United States to conduct an investigation and to gather evidence. Are you a Marxist sympathizer or a Communist? Have you ever supported any group or effort that harbors an agenda to overthrow the Government of the United States by force? Ever been to Mexico? (on anything other that a drunken binge?) Do you respect legitimate Civil authority? Do you support local law enforcement in your community?
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Nope, I took their word for it. There were no fragments in the torso. Only in the wrist and thigh from the lead core at the base of the bullet. You should read the Parkland reports and observations before you profess to know more than I. Since your ignorance of the facts abounds with regard to the surgical findings, are you certain about 11 shots fired. The goddamn car and it's occupants would have looked like swiss cheese if these imaginary shooters could hit anything.
i just presented VIDEO EVIDENCE of the doctors at parkland who operated on connally who said "the bullet" remained in his left thigh. in point of fact it was bullet fragments. too large of fragments to have come from CE 399. this is FACT.
once again, you give me OPINION based on NOTHING. you arrogantly PROCLAIM "facts" not in evidence.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood No incompetent would have left a bullet in the left thigh. The miniscule fragments (about the size of your brain) were not removed because to do so would have inflicted more harm through probing than the pin head (see above reference again) size pieces were worth. These facts are in evidence. You should view some of it. The wound was sutured closed, as it barely broke the skin. CE 399 was found with the Governor's stretcher. The ONLY intact round recovered from the 11 gunmen
once again, you are making up your own facts and wasting my time.
you don't even know where the so-called magic bullet was found, do you.
it was NOT found on connally's hospital gurney. it was found on the ADJACENT gurney to connally's. wait, let me guess, you don't believe that. here, maybe you'll believe darrell tomlinson. who's he? ONLY THE GUY WHO FOUND THE BULLET. youtube.com/watch?v=HKwqhf0MYio
@LiquorWreckedEmGood No, you are wasting your own time. I am doing just fine. I don't have a problem with the circumstances surrounding the gurney, unless there was a rash of Carcano shootings in Dallas that day. (Of course by your logic (?) with 11 shots fired, and enough conspirators to comprise a battalion of Italian infantry, who knows?)
@LiquorWreckedEmGood The fact that LHO shot the President makes sense. The fact that he was there, had the motive, the means, and the opportunity makes perfect sense. He was a known communist sympathizer, a radical Marxist, and was making babies with the KGB's step daughter. CIA is all over this, trust me, Get your head out of your ass and see where this could have led, if the Soviets had sponsered the murder of the President. You will never know our Agency's role, but it was not assassination.
People wrap the Flag around Jim Garrison when Costner says, "Don't Forget Your Dying King". The King had some owning up to do. LHO got to him first. People say Hoover killed Kennedy. Hell, Hoover loved Kennedy. Hoover had enough sexual stuff on Kennedy to satisfy himself as Director of the FBI for two eight year terms of the Kennedys. Hoover had to help LBJ squash all of the political hanky-panky. Thus, no full-blown investigation. The benign conspiracy continues still, but LHO killed Kennedy.
Enter the Warren Commission, the Blue Ribbon Panel to adopt the FBI / Dallas Police Department's Investigations. This is why the investigation was stiffled and so many questions remain today. Not because anyone other than Oswald killed Kennedy, but because too much dirty laundry was caught out in the open at the time, and no one could afford a full blown intelligence investigation where the American public might become the wiser to the Administration's covert domestic and foreign shennanigans.
RFK had the distinct bad fortune of having to cover the mess left in the wake of unfinished politics and Intelligence. There was precious little time to grieve, with the locking down of the President's Office, files, memorandums, the secret taping system, the back-channel arrangements with the Soviets, circumventing the State Department. A no-holes-barred investigation into the assassination of JFK might leak intelligence that would tarnish the administration and squash RFK's future.
LBJ was trying to cover the growing scandal involving Bobby Baker and the stakes were high. The Attorney General indeed knew that there was unfinished business, uncovered tracks in the brother's dealings with the Soviets, the bartering over Missle Sites in Turkey, and Defense Contracts that would not wash under scrunity. LBJ/RFK, strange bedfellows, wanted no Congressional Investigations involving Intelligence. It wasn't the assassination that they were afraid of, it was what else might surface.
In late October of 1963 President Diem of South Vietnam was seeking peace negotiations with the North and a unified Vietnam. He encountered one small problem as November rolled around. A bullet, which was delivered through his head by elements of Central Intelligence on the orders of President John F. Kennedy. Seen as soft on Communism in Cuba, Kennedy could ill afford peace in Vietnam before the 64' elections. Without a doubt there was much to cover up after the assassination.
Perhaps Jim Garrison should have gone after this man during his "investigation" of the assassination and charged him with possession, display, and the unfolding of an umbrella in a public park without a permit. At any rate the CIA are known to carry umbrellas, so it is likely that this poor gentleman will have to suffer in hell, with LBJ, for his part in the assassination. Oswald, all physical evidence aside, will be in heaven because Garrison said he never fired a shot. Just a fine Marine.
I think I'd be careful about saying what Jim Garrison is doing in "eternity" before God, and worry about your own future. LBJ was a broken man before death, and part of that deep depression and breakage was that he knew the end was coming and probably judgment for what he'd done. Don't make light of it. Eternity in Hell is nothing to wish on anyone, even on the mean killers of our president.
@Boelcke1919 I said that Garrison was laughing in eternity, and here you have consigned poor LBJ to hell. Judgement as to the affairs of men will be reserved only to the Almighty. Read your own words and take heed . . .
@BlueWolfe38 I am no great fan of LBJ, but your foolish statements are infuriating. You imply that LBJ suffered in his last days because he was complicit in the murder of John Kennedy. Do you, per chance, have some supporting documentation or anything in the way of physical evidence to support such a contention ? Hell No. You Don't. You are simply a moral hipocrite just as Garrison proved himself to be against Shaw. "Thou shalt not bear false witness".
Maybe someday Conspiracy Theorists will come across some actual "evidence" (say, like some curtain rods) on which to hang their fantasies. Until that time JFK Conspiracy Theory will remain nothing more than a Parlor Game where everybody makes their own rules.
@BlueWolfe38 1. Nice try in using the phrase "conspiracy theorists" to describe those who don't believe the Warren Commission. You're not talking about a few people - you're talking about the large majority of the public who don't believe it! 2. There has been loads of evidence for decades to discredit the Warren Commission. As a lawyer, I, like most others can see the WC didn't even follow basic rules of criminal or legal procedure in its investigation!
@TheLensSolution Nice try my Lawyer friend. You are looking at the investigation from the standpoint of 2011. Adjust you lens to 1963. If LHO had killed his brother-in-law, with the known evidence in place, he would have been tried, convicted, and sentenced to "Old Sparky". The evidence was that good. But Jim Garrison and Stone, publicity seekers, and character assassinators, convince 80% of today's public of conspiracy. Counsel, you should be ashamed . . lol, I was a cop, just kidding you some.
@BlueWolfe38 I am looking at the evidence through both 1963 & 2011 eyes. I'm not sure what your point is. Obviously one has to look at the event from both points of view, from what was known at the time, and from what we know now. The point is that amongst all the other evidence exonerating Oswald, J. Edgar Hoover says in a transcript with LBJ that they don't have a strong case against Oswald and that he probably wouldn't get convicted at trial. A day later he is killed. Coincidence?
@TheLensSolution J. Edgar Hoover was a lifelong PR man. He was not known for his investigative insights nor his knowledge of firearms. His elementary school conversations with LBJ are big fodder for Conspiracy people, but they are about as lame as they actually sound. The case would have to have been made by the Dallas Police Department, aided by the FBI, and Will Fritz would have had a very solid case for conviction in Texas at the time. The autopsy should have been performed in Dallas as well.
@TheLensSolution My point is that much of the rumor, false information, and mishandling of evidence and situations were the result of a certain ignorance and innocense of the year 1963. It should have been settled in that time frame but it wasn't. That does not mean that every glaring inconsistency and unexplaned occurance is a hallmark of conspiracy. The Mauser thing for instance. People do not even know the "language" of 1963 today. Mauser in the South at that time covered a lot of firearms.
I think you are also on solid ground to say that Jack was a Jew, and whatever prejudices that you seem to harbor, along with your Conspiracy Theories, would be in that case, justified.
Without a doubt Ruby killed Oswald; However, this FACT does not diminish the "evidence" which overwhelmingly nails Oswald as THE Assassin of the President. Just as one can never know the real motivation behind either Oswald or Ruby's actions, the "evidence" as an indicator of their crimes is much the same. To deny tangible, physical evidence of a crime might lead one to think there is, well, some sort of conspiracy. We wouldn't want that, would we ???
Somewhere in eternity Jim Garrison is behind that picket fence, riding his elephant, rolling his big eyes, and laughing like hell at you Conspiracy Lunatics. The PT Barnum of New Orleans and Lee Harvey Oswald is with him. "Nothing more that a fine Marine". Heheheheheheheeeee
Lets run up the knoll behind all of the "witnesses" who were scared sh*tless of the rifle shots and chase down all of these imaginary people/creatures who shot the President. This turns not into the criminal investigation of the century, but into into a hunt for blobs, specs of light, and some old fart with an unbrella. Hell, who needs real verifiable evidence when you've got sh*t like that? We can just round up three unarmed hobos and let our prime suspect go . . . that work for you, dr. ???
So lets turn Oswald loose, forget the Carcano and the Book Depository, forget the mail order rifle, the fingerprints, lets forget the Marxist motive and the opportunity, forget the murder of a Dallas Cop with another Oswald post office box order (he's expendable) forget that this degenerate had very real Communist ties to the Soviet Union and Castro (things which I might add that Kennedy was at odds with) just forget Oswald and lets chase down Badgeman, Cowboy, Umbrella man, and Blackdog man.
Lets forget that Zionist Israeli supporter Jacob Rubenstein, a.k.a. Jack Ruby, silenced Oswald from telling the world who REALLY did the assassination.
Louis Stokes says "please turn your goddamned umbrella the other way". The whole umbrella thing was a "joke" before the House Assassinations Committee. You've got conspiracy people saying Bill Greer shot the President. You've got conspiracy people saying Jackie shot the President. Anybody but Lee Harvey Oswald, who bought the Carcano, carried it to work and shot the President on his lunch break. ALL of the known evidence in the case confirms OSWALD. Again, where is your EVIDENCE, Dr. ?
I can't stand Kevin Costner, because back and to the left is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard him say. Garrison was a publicity seeking politician. A true American Idiot.
The shot hit from behind, the flap of the skull opens in the front, the brains spray forward, as does the primary piece of the President's skull that was later recovered and entered into evidence. The body, devoid of willpower after impact, falls back and to the left from the point that Kennedy had been sitting upright in the seat. This is called "gravity". The impact velocity of a bullet is NOT sufficient to push Kennedy that far. Shoot a bird off a limb. It won't get knocked back a foot.
Why? Because you say so? I do not see any evidence in the film of anything but a shot from behind. I have ballistics and medical evidence supported by the Warren Commission to back that up. I am asking you people for evidence. Not what the hell you think, or what you believe. What you are saying is PLENTY disputable. There is NO evidence to support it. Don't you get it? When I say ALL of the evidence, that IS exactly what I mean. . .
Another theory refuted . . . An unbrella is NOT a gun, and as this is still AMERICA, I can legally carry one with or without a gun permit. A 6.5 Italian Carcano is a reliable and precise killing mechanism. All known verifiable evidence leads to Oswald and his Carcano as the sole assassin. Not one shred of verifiable evidence, to this day, has been produced otherwise.
Just proving that "something is not right" is not the question. Something was not right when LHO got up that morning with the intent to kill the beloved President of the United States. The trouble is that ALL of the Goddamned evidence points to the Fact that he did exactly that. Not one shred of verifiable physical evidence confirms a conspiracy. I wish that it did, but it ain't happening. In summation: No Santa Claus, No Easter Bunny, and NO Conspiracy. I do LIKE the song with this video . . .
@BlueWolfe38 "...ALL of the Goddamned evidence points to the Fact that he did (it)."
"All" of it? I'm looking at a video of the actual assassination (Zapruder film). That's THE best piece of evidence. And it's iron-clad, in that the shot came from the RIGHT and in FRONT of the President. That is indisputable, and thus exonerates LHO.
you have a LOT of EYEWITNESS testimony that contradicts the lone gunman theory. were YOU standing on the triple overpass at the time of the assassination? James Leon Simmons was (along with 2 co-workers). THEY ALL HEARD THE SHOTS AND SAW A PUFF OF SMOKE APPEAR UNDER A TREE ALONG THE FENCE LINE AND DRIFT AWAY.
were YOU working in the railroad building behind the picket fence on nov 22, 1963 at 12:30pm? Lee Bowers was. He saw a flash of light and smoke from behind the picket fence.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood You obviously were not there either. The difference is that I accept the Official Evidence, which is very solid against Oswald. Unless (they) shot JFK with a blunderbuss, there was no smoke. Have you ever heard of smokeless powder, or do you only watch Pirate movies ? I doubt that any self-respecting hitman would have employed a Flintlock. The folks on the overpass got their 15 minutes on television.
apparently, you are incapable of following a simple argument. YOU are characterizing witness testimony yet YOU were not there on the scene. once again, YOUR self-serving imagination carries no weight.
let's count the bullets, shall we?
#1 - a miss.
#2 - jfk throat, connally back, ribs, wrist. the magic bullet. ridiculous but so stipulated for argument's sake.
#3 - jfk head.
#4 - connally left thigh. too many bullet fragments to have come from the near-pristine magic bullet.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood I believe there was one that hit the sign that the limo passed on the Z-film, (a sign that was removed the next day). The one in the grass that was said to be a 45 clbr. The one that missed and hit the curb is probably the one that hit James Tague with a piece of concrete or a frahment from the bullet itself. I think there were at least 7-10 shots.
so where did the bullet fragments in connally's left thigh come from? heaven? fairies? alien implants? where did the dented interior window frame of the limo come from? the crack in the windshield (neither of which were present the day before - photographic evidence will confirm)? how about the fresh bullet track in the soil on the south lawn of elm across from the head shot. the bullet dug up by FBI (witnessed) and never seen again? 10 to 11 shots were fired. you stupid fuck.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Fragments in the left thigh were not enough to remove. They came from CE 399. The windshield was shattered from the inside, and the chrome was dented by fragments from the 3rd shot. The head shot. The soil track is a myth, that is why there is no bullet. You have now gone from smoke and a flash of light to 11 shots being fired. Where are these 11 rounds today? By your logic, was there anyone in Dealey Plaza that didn't shoot Kennedy? Examine the evidence, you stupid fuck.
the fragments did NOT come from CE 399. look at the bullet. now look at the x-ray. and remember, the bullet, as near-pristine as it was, had small fragments TAKEN OFF OF IT FOR FBI ANALYSIS.
there is NO WAY that bullet contributed so much material in connally's left thigh.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood When CE 399 exited JFK's throat, it began to yaw and produced a keyhole wound in Connelly's back. Still at substantial velocity, it followed a rib producing bone shards that pierced the lung. It left no fragment as it exited the body. Smashing the wrist, the bullet flatened slightly, leaving traces of the core. The thigh wound contained pieces that were pin head size (less that the size of your brain) These were left in Connelly's body and buried with him years later.
so you claim. let's see your evidence that they were pin-sized. i say you're lying. in fact, i KNOW you are. anybody who cares to can google the x-ray up.
you have ZERO credibility in here. you are a damned liar.
here is doctor charles crenshaw. unlike YOU, he is a medical doctor AND he was present in the emergency room where kennedy was brought on nov 22, 1963.
youtube.com/watch?v=1EQc1nlbRlw
the throat wound was AN ENTRANCE WOUND. he has seen MANY OF THEM.
how can you tell?
a small round entry wound with an inflamed ring of tissue surrounding the hole.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood The wound was an exit, with the abrasion caused by JFK's clothing upon exit. The tie /shirt fabric were pushed outward. Crenshaw was the only Parkland MD to maintain this nonsense after so many years and did fairly well selling his conspiracy books before his death. The small exit was fully consistent with a 6.5 Carcano FMJ. I have seen dozens of entry and exit gunshot wounds myself. Oswald was not using an Enfield .58 Mini-ball. Else Kennedy would have had no damn neck.
@BlueWolfe38 The doctors, particularly Dr. Crenshaw, have said that there were entrance wounds to the front and massive damage to the head and that the medical evidence they saw at the hospital totally contradicts the lone gunman from behind theory. You know this, and yet you continue to spin for the Warren Commission. Why?
crenshaw and the attending nurse both described it as an entrance wound. the details they cited were the small hole and the ring of inflamed tissue surrounding the wound. both hallmarks of an entrance wound (although a small hole by itself can in some rare cases actually be an exit wound if the bullet doesn't hit anything and goes straight thru).
one or two coincidences would not be enough to overturn the lone gunman theory. but literally HUNDREDS are more than enough.
@TheLensSolution If you are going to buy Conspiracy, which version are you going to buy? Conspiracy theorists cannot even agree among themselves. Perhaps you and Mr. Liquor Rectum can come up with an entirely new one. You call yourself a Lawyer, for Christ's sake. Does evidence mean anything to you? If everybody but Oswald is guilty in this case, then I have another name for it. PARANOID. I have waited nearly 50 years for some of these kooks to tell me who did the shooting and with what weapon.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Why don't you just post a picture of yourself (or a mug shot) so that law abiding folks with common sense can see what a dumbass really looks like. Then maybe while you Hee-Haw around all of the legitimate evidence in the case, (crenshaw said this, and petty burglar howard hunt said that) at least we will have some reference material.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Let me just share "one" piece of inside information, Mr. Rectum. If the Agency had wanted the "bastard" dead, and was willing to "frame" the Marxist "whimp" for the assassination . . . . . Oswald would have "never" left Dealey Plaza, much less the School Book Depository, alive. Dead men tell no tales, and are not paraded in front of reporters, waiting for some two bit jew strip joint hustler like Ruby to catch up with em' in the parking lot. You are extremely naive.
Look at the little man pretending he's a spook. Come on, fess up, you're a greeter at Wal*Mart aren't you. You're the fat balding man aimlessly wandering about near the entrance trying to look useful, "earning" your 8.50 an hour by spending half the time in the back mens room stall jerking off to your David Cassidy poster from the 70's.
Good move laminating it. The cum stains wipe right off huh.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood You conspiracy people, in all of your dumb tripe that "Kennedy was such a Great man", never seem to understand, or you lose it along the way, that a sophisticated plot to kill your president would have involved taking out the lone assassin, even if we had to plant one of our guys as DPD or even Secret Service to do it. The little SOB would have been waxed before he ever talked to a reporter, because we would have been waiting for him as he tried to leave the fu*kin building.
@BlueWolfe38 And don't even go there with the Tippit sh*t. Because that would mean Oswald killed Tippet before the plan was realized, and the worm can't be innocent if he shoots a cop. Oswald was the lone Marxist shooter, and Tippit was the poor dumb cop that as God would have it, got in the way. Kennedy got off'ed by a nut case. Much to the good fortune of LBJ and those of us who didn't subscribe to Kennedy's socialist tendencies. Good ridance anyway. Thanks for the memories. No more Camelot.
Between 12:45 and 1:00 Tippit was seen by multiple witnesses parked on the west side of the viaduct watching the traffic come across. Suddenly he peels out and goes into the Top 10 records store, pushes people out of the way and dials a phone number. No answer. Irritated, he gets into his car and peels out again 1:05 - 1:10. 1:15 dead.
Meanwhile Butch Burroughs, the ticket collector and concession stand operator at the Texas Theater sees LHO come in between 1:00 and 1:07.
@TheLensSolution Crenshaw was the loose cannon of the physicians at Parkland. He became adamant in his later years with the book deals. The entrance wound in the rear of the head is very obvious in the only Autopsy photo available of the inside of the cranium. That other photos have not been released to date, you can thank Bobby Kennedy. He alone had the power in1963/1964 to release thousands of files in this case. We have since deferred out of respect to the "Kennedy family". Puke . . . . . .
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Mr. Crenshaw was an intern. Not by any means a qualified pathologist. The official autopsy report was signed off on by three qualified pathologists, in the presence of Kennedy's friend and personal physician, Admiral Burkley. The official cause of death was a gunshot wound to the back of the head. With all of Crenshaw's rantings and book deals, conspiracy people cannot produce evidence based upon his testimony. I have asked you folks for legal evidence, remember ?
Dr. Crenshaw was not an intern at Parkland Memorial Hospital at any time. Once again we have caught you telling porkies. You have been given the books and videos and led directly to school but still you refuse to learn. why? because you're a moron who believes everything his government tells him.
You are my candidate for poster child for the useful idiot.
The intact Carcano round did NOT kill JFK. The 3rd shot that LHO fired hit JFK in the back of the head and fragmented. This is an oddity, but not unheard of, and the fragments of that bullet were matched to Oswald's rifle. The Zapruder film portrays this shot, as it does the intact wounding of JFK and Connelly. The film is PERFECTLY consistent with shots fired from behind and substantiates all of the physical evidence catalogued with the 26 volumes of the Warren Commission. Sorry Mr. Garrison.
Why is one bullet intact is not enough? Because Oliver Stone said so? Do you know one Godblessed thing about the capabilities of a 6.5 Carcano? NO YOU DON'T. The gun is reliable, efficient to operate, and deadly in the hands of an average shooter. It is well suited to a medium range sniper situation. It produced an untold number of casualties in WWII and was an effective killing machine. I have a 1940 Terni with the Japanese scope that LHO used, but NO conspiracy volunteers to stand downrange.
bullshit. the carcano was dubbed by the italian army as the "humanitarian rifle" because it was so inaccurate and ineffective.
but even if the best sniper rifle in the world were used you lone nutters can't avoid the fact that shots 2 & 3 (as described by many witnesses -- there were actually many more) came right on top of one another. the shots were not evenly spaced out over a 6 or 9 second time period.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood You were there? And you heard this alleged barrage' of weapons? The Carcano, regardless of what you learned watching Stone's movie fantasy, is an excellent sniper rifle at 100 yds. I have not had any Conspiracy volunteers to stand downrange while I demonstrate it's capabilities. It's "humane" qualities are best demonstrated at frame 313. That sucker never knew what hit him.
2. were YOU in the italian army using one of those weapons? no. so we have an entire army saying the weapon was shit, and then we have YOU saying it wasn't. gee, i wonder which carries more weight.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Perhaps since you have done such exhaustive research you could tell me a little bit about a Turni 6.5 Italian Carcano. Do you know they type of scope, and exactly how it was mounted? How many rounds does the "clip" hold? Is the clip ejected on the last round fired? I think Kennedy would have been safe with you in the window, everything about you seems to cum off premature. How many of the witnesses that you cite heard 11 shots? How many of those shooters were Freemasons?
once again dumb ass, THE ITALIAN ARMY CALLED THE WEAPON "THE HUMANITARIAN RIFLE". i don't care if you own one or even fired one. your testimony does not outweigh that of a large group of men WHOSE VERY LIVES DEPENDED ON ONE.
all you have is characterizations and innuendo. your opinion means shit when you don't back it up with anything.
the rifle they found on the 6th floor was A MAUSER. stamped on the barrel. 7.65 MAUSER. do you believe that 6.5 cartridges were used in that?
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Have you ever been arrested? If so, for what offense(s), and how many times? By whose authority do you question the motive of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, or the President? When you start to answer affirmative and question the legitimate motivations of officers and officials sworn to uphold the law, the constitution, and the moral obligations of the land, does that indicate your loyalty as a Citizen, or are you a subversive as Oswald was.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood The film evidence, immediately after the assassination clearly shows a Turni 6.5 Italian Carcano. But YOU wouldn't know that by looking. Nor would you know a Mauser from a beanpole being used as a tomato stake. I have encountered a few intelligent arguments pro Conspiracy, but not here. The same old 12 or 15 shooters behind the fence has long since been dispelled. Go back to your refrigerator before the wrestling match begins, and let this go. You are no good at it.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Gun in the video is a Carcano. (sorry) If you can't trust the Dallas Police Department with the investigation, then you can't trust this Constable either. Also, when Lt. Day, of the DPD is photographed leaving the building, the rifle in the picture is a Carcano. You also have another problem. Why would the people who wanted to frame LHO plant a Mauser when they had a paper trail on the Carcano from Klein's Sporting Goods in Chicago on the Carcano. Does not make sense.
where is your evidence that the carcano "at 100 yards is an excellent rifle"? why would the italian army put the moniker on it as "the humane rifle"?
the problem with arrogant asses like you is you are intellectually inferior and you don't know it. oh, your mother i'm sure is impressed. your stupid wife and idiot children may be impressed. but believe me, the rest of us are laughing at you. don't you know that you stupid fuck?
@LiquorWreckedEmGood I deal in reality. You fantasy. I own a Carcano and I am a Carcano shooter. But I certainly was not present when you interviewed the entire Italian Army. There were no fragments in Connelly's torso. The weight of the fragments found in his wrist and thigh are less than the amount missing from CE 399. You are obviously a redneck, hence your name and you obviously wouldn't know the muzzle of a loaded firearm from a rat's ass. Last time you saw a stupid fuck was while shaving.
I believe the bullet presented as the official bullet that killed JFK fully intact should be all that is needed as proof that something is not right ..
After nearly 50 years not one shed of physical evidence to indicate that anyone other than Lee Harvey Oswald shot the President and he did so alone. No verifiable photographic, ballistic or medical evidence to sustain any theory of conspiracy. On the other hand, the known physical evidence against LHO is substantial. Enough remaining after all these years even to convict him in a court of law. Sorry Conspiracy Lunatics. There is NO Santa Claus and Lee Harvey Oswald murdered the President.
Yes, because professional intelligence/counter intelligence agents and their pawns never create or even use back stories to cover their actions, most especially not to cover important and highly suspicious actions that will almost definitely be brought into question.
They're known for their impressive covert activities but pathetically weak cover stories and alibis that always get them in trouble and blow entire operations wide open.
Wait a minute! He had the SAME umbrella! The SAME umbrella, folks! EVERYONE KNOWS that umbrellas suck. They break as soon as you go out on windy, rainy day! And then you have to buy a new umbrella! Either this man had a super-duper-indestructible umbrella, or it is not the same umbrella! lol
Kkk, American nazi party, Congress, CIA, FBI, George h w bush, the Mafia, Cosa Nostra, ADL (anti defamation league) they're all the same to me. They all killed JFK.
During George B. Jr's administration, they were people in Dallas who wanted to turn the small ranch house the Bush family had once lived in when he was a boy into a Texan landmark. What a disaster, how was Gearge B. Sr supposed to explain why they were there?
This video leaves out the fact that Umbrella Man actually clarified his presence at the scene during his testimony.
He wasn't "in on it". He was a conservative who didn't like Kennedy. The waving of the umbrella symbolized Joe Kennedy (JFK's father) and his friendship with Nazi appeaser Neville Chamberlain, something JFK struggled with as an adult.
I don't know all the details but it's pretty easy to Google.
Ok, I'm game. Give me an anomaly that you think is evidence, and I'll try to provide a more reasonable explanation. I'm not trying to convince anyone, it's just an experiment in critical thinking...
I think if the truth was to come out it would show the world what a bunch of devils have been running the US government for years. And the extremes to which they go to have there way. It would absolutely shock the world. Put nothing past them!!!
@pntdblack Absolutely, but you what, the public would never under any circumstances allow themselves as a whole to believe, because many of those devils would turn out to be individuals the sheeple held in esteem to some degree or other. The magnitude of that evil blows the mind. Murder of thousands or murder of an individual is part and parcel of their DNA. Did you know, George Bush Sr. was in Dallas 11-22-63? Read the book "family of secrets" find it on Amazon.
What they should have done was water board this so called umbrella man. Make no mistake this murder was committed by someone in high level of our government. They used Oswald as a fall guy by using hypnosis on him and had a second person to take the final kill shot. But what does that say for our extremely corrupt government officials that have managed to cover up this cold blooded murder since then. Im sure somehow theyve justified it to themselves to get what they wanted.
The umbrella was thought to be signal to begin coordinated firing when the umbrella was open. So Witt just happens to heckle JFK with an umbrella at the first shot and through the assassination. Says he doesn't really remember it that well, was told by another extremist to do this , but still happens to bring with him the then FIFTEEN YEAR OLD umbrella he used that day. This guy is really suspicious.
the dealy plaza footage is so shocking & personal that people get lost in it. but if concentrate on & interpret what's concretely there, on little grainy 8mm films, are some answers. guy with umbrella & accomplice with radio were likely part of team. they would logically coordinate the barrage timing - for both visual & acoustic unity effect & then confirm the kill. senate select committee forced to acknowledged a conspiracy, but did best not to delve any further. It's findings rather cynical.
The man has an umbrella and the conspiracy nuts immediately conclude he was involved in a conspiracy. They have no proof, no evidence, nothing factual to support their reckless accusations and in the process judge an innocent man guilty because they think his behavior was "odd". If the CT'ers had their way they'd have the prisons filled with innocent people. The CT'ers are a reckless and irresponsible mob and should be ignored.
The conspiracy obsessed have placed 24 different gunmen in Dealey Plaza. Which one(s) was Umbrella Man signaling? I read he fired a poison dart from the umbrella into JFK as he drove by. If he was signaling, why would moving an umbrella up and down, in full view of the hundreds of people in Dealey Plaza be a good choice to send a signal? Wouldn't have been better to send the "assassinate him" signal that was less conspicuous?
LoneNutter1 1 day ago
Give me a break - an umbrella could also be used to shield a person from the sun. Are we to believe that someone opening an umbrella contradicts historical record and the testimony of eyewitnesses to the murders? These nutty conspiracy theories do not honor the memory of Mr. Kennedy or Mr. Tippitt.
jpeez12345 1 day ago
the umbrella could have been used as a signal , though that would be some real amateur crap. It would make more sense that it would be used to attract the attention of the secret service, away from others.Or maybe it was used diabolically to protect the user from the sun.
nightkraawler 2 days ago
My feeling is these types of mystery was the main reason for the suppression of the Zapruder film, to let the trail go cold for several years. Basically Life Magazine was picked to pay off Zapruder and keep it from public and media scrutiny. An odd person like the umbrella man, so conveniently positioned right at the assassination, should have been hauled in for questioning immediately. Whatever his missions was, it was accomplished.
tpatmc69 5 days ago
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inspectorcritic 5 days ago
The Umbrella man was a heckle to the President about his father. Who was in support of the appeasement of Hitler. The Umbrella signifies Neville Chamberlain..
philster611 6 days ago
The Mr Witt story is bs
filmerado 1 week ago
well as they said on msnbc last week they have since learned the unbrella man was murray the robber from the movie with jack lemon the out of towners.
SIGNALSTAT 1 week ago
yeah this is a circus. no credibility whatsoever.
misterb1972 2 weeks ago
These fuckn bastards can laugh about the overthrow of UNITED STATES PRESIDENT an elected official ? Everybody I know has a deep gut feeling that the Kennedys were taken out of the picture so the NWO could rise to power, there was nothing about that motorcade that didn't smack of SET-UP, how is it that good men get murdered in office while loathed lowlife scumbag criminals like Bush & cheney live on without a care in the world Go figure ?
TheRoguelement 2 weeks ago
@TheRoguelement Karma is karma my friend and one simply cannot cheat fate itself. All of these men will have their reckoning unto God....period.
Thejbirdy 2 weeks ago
it was a signal or a coincidence. and this is 15 years later, so really who has any idea if he is telling the truth, or if its even the same umbrella
wizardoflawz 2 weeks ago
e howard hunt confessed lbj had jfk killed. lbj hated being number two
latinoheat361 2 weeks ago
what a farce. lets invite the umbrella man in and remind him to bring his umrella so we can open it up and see if some concealed wepon might be inside!
CT2507 2 weeks ago
Oliver Stone made most of that movie up, I would hope that most people don't get their take on what went down from that fictional piece of shit.
nmcvicker03 2 weeks ago
@nmcvicker03
Oliver Stone didn't make anything up, he used several books (Jim Mars's for one) to base the story line and combined several witnesses and insiders into the Donald Sutherland character. He may have taken some artistic license to compact 20 years of research into a three hour movie. But Stone didn't make up anything.
deboisblanc 1 week ago
@deboisblanc he made the shit up for dramatic flair and tried to sell it as fact, watch all of his interviews leading up to the premiere.
nmcvicker03 6 days ago
@deboisblanc right but Jim Marrs is a liar. So Stone based his movie on obvious lies that a preschooler could see through. That's the same as making it up, essentially.
flouride666 3 days ago
WE CAN'T KNOW UMBRELLA MAN HAD SHOT OR NOT TO JFK...BECAUSE AFTER UMBRELLA WAS OPENED,AND JFK WAS KİLLED..
MAYBE HE HAD A SECRET GUN UNDER THE UMBRELLA
SUSSTURUCU 2 weeks ago
This is silly. The umbrella was just JFK's signal to duck.
eBe4IXcept 3 weeks ago
Shot from storm sewer....bang..done!
Now for a crossword.
Sniffmyelbowdude 3 weeks ago
whaddayaknow! He didn't remove the gun from it sometime in the last 15 years?
ADAMSIXTIES 3 weeks ago
the BILDERBERG have kill JFK
freoltic 1 month ago
COME ON !!! do you think that if this man had anything to do with JFK's death via (in someway from his umbrlela) he would bring the samae umbrella !!!! PPFFFTT come on !! i would water board this guy, ask him heaps of questions, then waterboard him again....Oh by the way the warren report is a pill of shit.
crazyknight2008 1 month ago
This guy is a fraud..a "plant"...and, yeah, we all believe THAT is the umbrella! I have land in Florida to sell you. The umbrella was raised to put the site mechanism in position for proper alignment - he missed & hit JFK in the throat, turning the umbrella to "track" the target (JFK, obviously). The open umbrella signaled the mission was ON and to fire when the target is at this point. When JFK lunged forward to cough out the bullet in his throat, the shot from the rear hit 6" below his collar.
Tomaji69 1 month ago
too simple for simple brains
MrKtd1 1 month ago
WHAT a fucking farce...
rogerrobie68 1 month ago
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Bonsse88 1 month ago
thats not even the same person, just because the Dumb Dallas police claimed to have found him. The CIA used people like this for disinformation.
hkphanatic 1 month ago
He was an observer
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cruisersism 1 month ago
HEY THIS IS SOME SCARY SHIT MAN !!!, LIKE I WAS JUST WATCHING THIS VIDEO THAT WAS ABOUT AMERICAN FOOTBALL AND THEN IT TOOK ME TO THIS ABOUT JFK THATS LIKE RANDOM, THIS IS SOME SPOOKY MOTHER FUCKING SHIT THATS GOING DOWN ABOUT THIS GUY, I THINK USA IS HIDING SOME MAD STUFF, PEACE OUT !!!!
Dale21166 1 month ago
Was he asked why he was holding the Umbrella ?
wwwtwcom 1 month ago
@wwwtwcom
he was mimicking british prime minister neville chamberlain who, like joseph kennedy, formed a casual and friendly acquaintance with hitler and bought his b.s. hook, line, and sinker.
so it was a lovely form of protest. art really. nicely played. and now forever a part of history.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
So whose got their head up their ass? Your agency's role never assassination? There is even President Johnson admitting they assassinated people
Wisemanifold 1 month ago
@Wisemanifold
it isn't his agency. he doesn't work for the CIA. he isn't remotely bright enough.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood And this comes from Mr. Liquor Rectum. Maybe you just, overall, have a problem with authority. Maybe after a couple of DUI's, you don't like the smell of starch when you see the Highway Patrol. Arrogance runs it's mouth about that which it has no clue. An amateur, of sorts. Arrogance also let his little half-pint brother act as dictator over the Affairs of State, and then rode through the streets of Dallas with the top down.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
and with that Mr BlueWolf runs completely out of ammunition and begins the throwing of sticks and stones.
what a pathetic hack of an intellect you have.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood I have more ammunition stockpiled, than you can imagine. In the literal sense as well. I much prefer copper and lead to sticks and stones. The assassination was actually very beautifully executed. The tough deal and the embarrassing point for the related agencies, is that the freak did it by himself.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
you have yet to put forth one credible point. all you have is hot air that inflates your giant ego.
My God but you must hail from a very small pond.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@Wisemanifold Kennedy ordered the assassination of South Vietnamese President Deim. Johnson merely related the story. The reason Kennedy ordered this assassination was because Deim wanted to negotiate peace with North Vietnam. JFK could not afford peace in Vietnam before November of 1964. Kennedy was a ruthless political son-of-a-bitch. He and Deim were friends, but JFK sold Deim and peace down the river for political motivations. What JFK left undone cost 53,000 Americans their lives.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@Wisemanifold Johnson, on that particular tape, essentially says this: We gathered a bunch of Goddamned thugs, and we killed Deim. He goes on to say that "We haven't had any stability in the region since". I don't have any reverance for the memory of LBJ, but if you are going to smear the bastard, please put his remarks in context.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@Wisemanifold Let me tell you a sad little story, "wise-ass". I defend the CIA. It owes you no explanation for anything in this case, because it has never been established with one "shred" of evidence, that anyone OTHER THAN the pansy, patsy, smirking little Marxest freak Oswald fired a shot. Motive (he was a Marxist), Means ( he ordered a rifle), Opportunity (he worked in a building overlooking the route), it makes perfect sense to me. Better than 11 shooters, with no gun, no shells, etc. hehee
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
E. Howard Hunt, on his deathbed, disagrees with you.
And unlike YOU, he was in a position to KNOW.
youtube.com/watch?v=DbD_u7nUB_c
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood E. Howard Hunt, to this day, has people like you exactly where he wants them. He wanted to be the final enigma with the deathbed confession, which incidentally, revealed essentially nothing.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
Look at you pretending to know what was in the mind of E. Howard Hunt. Yes, what a good idea. What a fine idea to cap off a lifetime of toil and achievement, cop to the crime of the century, a crime you didn't commit.
Only a warped mind like yours could come up with anything that twisted and sick.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
Exactly how many grams were used for analysis? How many do YOU estimate were in the wrist and thigh wounds? Are you even aware that the Carcano round was designed for this kind of penetration because of the Geneva Convention after WWI so that armed participants of future wars would not suffer fragmentation wounds? When did you last use a firearm? Are you proficient, or are you Maggie's Drawers? What personal experience qualifies you with the Turni 6.5 Italian Carcano, 1940? Or any firearm?
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 By what qualification do you question the legal authority of the Government of the United States to conduct an investigation and to gather evidence. Are you a Marxist sympathizer or a Communist? Have you ever supported any group or effort that harbors an agenda to overthrow the Government of the United States by force? Ever been to Mexico? (on anything other that a drunken binge?) Do you respect legitimate Civil authority? Do you support local law enforcement in your community?
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
no, i am simply a citizen and it is my God-given right to do so.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
and now a question for YOU: how exactly did you escape from the mental institution that has been holding you?
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood I still work there. It is in Langley, Virginia. We call it by another name.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
but of course you do asshole.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
"There were no fragments in Connelly's torso."
-- really? you must inform his surgeons then as apparently you believe that you know more about his medical condition than they...
youtube.com/watch?v=aQ8NJwq58Fg
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Nope, I took their word for it. There were no fragments in the torso. Only in the wrist and thigh from the lead core at the base of the bullet. You should read the Parkland reports and observations before you profess to know more than I. Since your ignorance of the facts abounds with regard to the surgical findings, are you certain about 11 shots fired. The goddamn car and it's occupants would have looked like swiss cheese if these imaginary shooters could hit anything.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
i just presented VIDEO EVIDENCE of the doctors at parkland who operated on connally who said "the bullet" remained in his left thigh. in point of fact it was bullet fragments. too large of fragments to have come from CE 399. this is FACT.
once again, you give me OPINION based on NOTHING. you arrogantly PROCLAIM "facts" not in evidence.
you are a liar.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood No incompetent would have left a bullet in the left thigh. The miniscule fragments (about the size of your brain) were not removed because to do so would have inflicted more harm through probing than the pin head (see above reference again) size pieces were worth. These facts are in evidence. You should view some of it. The wound was sutured closed, as it barely broke the skin. CE 399 was found with the Governor's stretcher. The ONLY intact round recovered from the 11 gunmen
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
once again, you are making up your own facts and wasting my time.
you don't even know where the so-called magic bullet was found, do you.
it was NOT found on connally's hospital gurney. it was found on the ADJACENT gurney to connally's. wait, let me guess, you don't believe that. here, maybe you'll believe darrell tomlinson. who's he? ONLY THE GUY WHO FOUND THE BULLET. youtube.com/watch?v=HKwqhf0MYio
skip to 01:29
now, i am all through with you. as i said, waste of time.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood No, you are wasting your own time. I am doing just fine. I don't have a problem with the circumstances surrounding the gurney, unless there was a rash of Carcano shootings in Dallas that day. (Of course by your logic (?) with 11 shots fired, and enough conspirators to comprise a battalion of Italian infantry, who knows?)
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood The fact that LHO shot the President makes sense. The fact that he was there, had the motive, the means, and the opportunity makes perfect sense. He was a known communist sympathizer, a radical Marxist, and was making babies with the KGB's step daughter. CIA is all over this, trust me, Get your head out of your ass and see where this could have led, if the Soviets had sponsered the murder of the President. You will never know our Agency's role, but it was not assassination.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
People wrap the Flag around Jim Garrison when Costner says, "Don't Forget Your Dying King". The King had some owning up to do. LHO got to him first. People say Hoover killed Kennedy. Hell, Hoover loved Kennedy. Hoover had enough sexual stuff on Kennedy to satisfy himself as Director of the FBI for two eight year terms of the Kennedys. Hoover had to help LBJ squash all of the political hanky-panky. Thus, no full-blown investigation. The benign conspiracy continues still, but LHO killed Kennedy.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Enter the Warren Commission, the Blue Ribbon Panel to adopt the FBI / Dallas Police Department's Investigations. This is why the investigation was stiffled and so many questions remain today. Not because anyone other than Oswald killed Kennedy, but because too much dirty laundry was caught out in the open at the time, and no one could afford a full blown intelligence investigation where the American public might become the wiser to the Administration's covert domestic and foreign shennanigans.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
RFK had the distinct bad fortune of having to cover the mess left in the wake of unfinished politics and Intelligence. There was precious little time to grieve, with the locking down of the President's Office, files, memorandums, the secret taping system, the back-channel arrangements with the Soviets, circumventing the State Department. A no-holes-barred investigation into the assassination of JFK might leak intelligence that would tarnish the administration and squash RFK's future.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
LBJ was trying to cover the growing scandal involving Bobby Baker and the stakes were high. The Attorney General indeed knew that there was unfinished business, uncovered tracks in the brother's dealings with the Soviets, the bartering over Missle Sites in Turkey, and Defense Contracts that would not wash under scrunity. LBJ/RFK, strange bedfellows, wanted no Congressional Investigations involving Intelligence. It wasn't the assassination that they were afraid of, it was what else might surface.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
In late October of 1963 President Diem of South Vietnam was seeking peace negotiations with the North and a unified Vietnam. He encountered one small problem as November rolled around. A bullet, which was delivered through his head by elements of Central Intelligence on the orders of President John F. Kennedy. Seen as soft on Communism in Cuba, Kennedy could ill afford peace in Vietnam before the 64' elections. Without a doubt there was much to cover up after the assassination.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Perhaps Jim Garrison should have gone after this man during his "investigation" of the assassination and charged him with possession, display, and the unfolding of an umbrella in a public park without a permit. At any rate the CIA are known to carry umbrellas, so it is likely that this poor gentleman will have to suffer in hell, with LBJ, for his part in the assassination. Oswald, all physical evidence aside, will be in heaven because Garrison said he never fired a shot. Just a fine Marine.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
I think I'd be careful about saying what Jim Garrison is doing in "eternity" before God, and worry about your own future. LBJ was a broken man before death, and part of that deep depression and breakage was that he knew the end was coming and probably judgment for what he'd done. Don't make light of it. Eternity in Hell is nothing to wish on anyone, even on the mean killers of our president.
Boelcke1919 1 month ago
@Boelcke1919 I said that Garrison was laughing in eternity, and here you have consigned poor LBJ to hell. Judgement as to the affairs of men will be reserved only to the Almighty. Read your own words and take heed . . .
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 I am no great fan of LBJ, but your foolish statements are infuriating. You imply that LBJ suffered in his last days because he was complicit in the murder of John Kennedy. Do you, per chance, have some supporting documentation or anything in the way of physical evidence to support such a contention ? Hell No. You Don't. You are simply a moral hipocrite just as Garrison proved himself to be against Shaw. "Thou shalt not bear false witness".
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Zaprudor was CIA. The shots came from behind him! You ever been around a gun when it goes-off without you knowing it???? Think people...
onceANexile 1 month ago
@onceANexile Somehow I just knew that someone in this forum would say that Zapruder was CIA . . . heheheheeee
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Watch this:
1964 SECRET SERVICE FILM (JFK ASSASSINATION RECONSTRUCTION)(PART 2)
If you were Oswald - a lone gunman - where would YOU take your shot?
That and Jack Ruby's actions need explaining at the very least.
It's not just the USA that believe there was a conspiracy, I was eight
when this happened and have never heard any adult (parents, older relatives and so on)
alive at that time, either in the UK or Australia, that do NOT believe there was more
to this than a lone Nut gunman.
AidanDonnelly 1 month ago
Maybe someday Conspiracy Theorists will come across some actual "evidence" (say, like some curtain rods) on which to hang their fantasies. Until that time JFK Conspiracy Theory will remain nothing more than a Parlor Game where everybody makes their own rules.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 1. Nice try in using the phrase "conspiracy theorists" to describe those who don't believe the Warren Commission. You're not talking about a few people - you're talking about the large majority of the public who don't believe it! 2. There has been loads of evidence for decades to discredit the Warren Commission. As a lawyer, I, like most others can see the WC didn't even follow basic rules of criminal or legal procedure in its investigation!
TheLensSolution 1 month ago
@TheLensSolution Nice try my Lawyer friend. You are looking at the investigation from the standpoint of 2011. Adjust you lens to 1963. If LHO had killed his brother-in-law, with the known evidence in place, he would have been tried, convicted, and sentenced to "Old Sparky". The evidence was that good. But Jim Garrison and Stone, publicity seekers, and character assassinators, convince 80% of today's public of conspiracy. Counsel, you should be ashamed . . lol, I was a cop, just kidding you some.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 I am looking at the evidence through both 1963 & 2011 eyes. I'm not sure what your point is. Obviously one has to look at the event from both points of view, from what was known at the time, and from what we know now. The point is that amongst all the other evidence exonerating Oswald, J. Edgar Hoover says in a transcript with LBJ that they don't have a strong case against Oswald and that he probably wouldn't get convicted at trial. A day later he is killed. Coincidence?
TheLensSolution 1 month ago
@TheLensSolution J. Edgar Hoover was a lifelong PR man. He was not known for his investigative insights nor his knowledge of firearms. His elementary school conversations with LBJ are big fodder for Conspiracy people, but they are about as lame as they actually sound. The case would have to have been made by the Dallas Police Department, aided by the FBI, and Will Fritz would have had a very solid case for conviction in Texas at the time. The autopsy should have been performed in Dallas as well.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@TheLensSolution My point is that much of the rumor, false information, and mishandling of evidence and situations were the result of a certain ignorance and innocense of the year 1963. It should have been settled in that time frame but it wasn't. That does not mean that every glaring inconsistency and unexplaned occurance is a hallmark of conspiracy. The Mauser thing for instance. People do not even know the "language" of 1963 today. Mauser in the South at that time covered a lot of firearms.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
I think you are also on solid ground to say that Jack was a Jew, and whatever prejudices that you seem to harbor, along with your Conspiracy Theories, would be in that case, justified.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Without a doubt Ruby killed Oswald; However, this FACT does not diminish the "evidence" which overwhelmingly nails Oswald as THE Assassin of the President. Just as one can never know the real motivation behind either Oswald or Ruby's actions, the "evidence" as an indicator of their crimes is much the same. To deny tangible, physical evidence of a crime might lead one to think there is, well, some sort of conspiracy. We wouldn't want that, would we ???
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Somewhere in eternity Jim Garrison is behind that picket fence, riding his elephant, rolling his big eyes, and laughing like hell at you Conspiracy Lunatics. The PT Barnum of New Orleans and Lee Harvey Oswald is with him. "Nothing more that a fine Marine". Heheheheheheheeeee
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
The good doctor says that the film shows that the shot from the front is "iron-clad". Bullsh*t. Anybody else want to take me on ???
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Does anyone else have some "evidence"? Thats all that I asked for to start with.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Lets run up the knoll behind all of the "witnesses" who were scared sh*tless of the rifle shots and chase down all of these imaginary people/creatures who shot the President. This turns not into the criminal investigation of the century, but into into a hunt for blobs, specs of light, and some old fart with an unbrella. Hell, who needs real verifiable evidence when you've got sh*t like that? We can just round up three unarmed hobos and let our prime suspect go . . . that work for you, dr. ???
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
So lets turn Oswald loose, forget the Carcano and the Book Depository, forget the mail order rifle, the fingerprints, lets forget the Marxist motive and the opportunity, forget the murder of a Dallas Cop with another Oswald post office box order (he's expendable) forget that this degenerate had very real Communist ties to the Soviet Union and Castro (things which I might add that Kennedy was at odds with) just forget Oswald and lets chase down Badgeman, Cowboy, Umbrella man, and Blackdog man.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
Lets forget that Zionist Israeli supporter Jacob Rubenstein, a.k.a. Jack Ruby, silenced Oswald from telling the world who REALLY did the assassination.
retiredaxmurderer 1 month ago
Louis Stokes says "please turn your goddamned umbrella the other way". The whole umbrella thing was a "joke" before the House Assassinations Committee. You've got conspiracy people saying Bill Greer shot the President. You've got conspiracy people saying Jackie shot the President. Anybody but Lee Harvey Oswald, who bought the Carcano, carried it to work and shot the President on his lunch break. ALL of the known evidence in the case confirms OSWALD. Again, where is your EVIDENCE, Dr. ?
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
I can't stand Kevin Costner, because back and to the left is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard him say. Garrison was a publicity seeking politician. A true American Idiot.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
The shot hit from behind, the flap of the skull opens in the front, the brains spray forward, as does the primary piece of the President's skull that was later recovered and entered into evidence. The body, devoid of willpower after impact, falls back and to the left from the point that Kennedy had been sitting upright in the seat. This is called "gravity". The impact velocity of a bullet is NOT sufficient to push Kennedy that far. Shoot a bird off a limb. It won't get knocked back a foot.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Why? Because you say so? I do not see any evidence in the film of anything but a shot from behind. I have ballistics and medical evidence supported by the Warren Commission to back that up. I am asking you people for evidence. Not what the hell you think, or what you believe. What you are saying is PLENTY disputable. There is NO evidence to support it. Don't you get it? When I say ALL of the evidence, that IS exactly what I mean. . .
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Another theory refuted . . . An unbrella is NOT a gun, and as this is still AMERICA, I can legally carry one with or without a gun permit. A 6.5 Italian Carcano is a reliable and precise killing mechanism. All known verifiable evidence leads to Oswald and his Carcano as the sole assassin. Not one shred of verifiable evidence, to this day, has been produced otherwise.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Just proving that "something is not right" is not the question. Something was not right when LHO got up that morning with the intent to kill the beloved President of the United States. The trouble is that ALL of the Goddamned evidence points to the Fact that he did exactly that. Not one shred of verifiable physical evidence confirms a conspiracy. I wish that it did, but it ain't happening. In summation: No Santa Claus, No Easter Bunny, and NO Conspiracy. I do LIKE the song with this video . . .
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 "...ALL of the Goddamned evidence points to the Fact that he did (it)."
"All" of it? I'm looking at a video of the actual assassination (Zapruder film). That's THE best piece of evidence. And it's iron-clad, in that the shot came from the RIGHT and in FRONT of the President. That is indisputable, and thus exonerates LHO.
JohnLeeMD 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
you have a LOT of EYEWITNESS testimony that contradicts the lone gunman theory. were YOU standing on the triple overpass at the time of the assassination? James Leon Simmons was (along with 2 co-workers). THEY ALL HEARD THE SHOTS AND SAW A PUFF OF SMOKE APPEAR UNDER A TREE ALONG THE FENCE LINE AND DRIFT AWAY.
were YOU working in the railroad building behind the picket fence on nov 22, 1963 at 12:30pm? Lee Bowers was. He saw a flash of light and smoke from behind the picket fence.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood You obviously were not there either. The difference is that I accept the Official Evidence, which is very solid against Oswald. Unless (they) shot JFK with a blunderbuss, there was no smoke. Have you ever heard of smokeless powder, or do you only watch Pirate movies ? I doubt that any self-respecting hitman would have employed a Flintlock. The folks on the overpass got their 15 minutes on television.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
apparently, you are incapable of following a simple argument. YOU are characterizing witness testimony yet YOU were not there on the scene. once again, YOUR self-serving imagination carries no weight.
let's count the bullets, shall we?
#1 - a miss.
#2 - jfk throat, connally back, ribs, wrist. the magic bullet. ridiculous but so stipulated for argument's sake.
#3 - jfk head.
#4 - connally left thigh. too many bullet fragments to have come from the near-pristine magic bullet.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood I believe there was one that hit the sign that the limo passed on the Z-film, (a sign that was removed the next day). The one in the grass that was said to be a 45 clbr. The one that missed and hit the curb is probably the one that hit James Tague with a piece of concrete or a frahment from the bullet itself. I think there were at least 7-10 shots.
TheAmbassador11 4 weeks ago
@BlueWolfe38
so where did the bullet fragments in connally's left thigh come from? heaven? fairies? alien implants? where did the dented interior window frame of the limo come from? the crack in the windshield (neither of which were present the day before - photographic evidence will confirm)? how about the fresh bullet track in the soil on the south lawn of elm across from the head shot. the bullet dug up by FBI (witnessed) and never seen again? 10 to 11 shots were fired. you stupid fuck.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Fragments in the left thigh were not enough to remove. They came from CE 399. The windshield was shattered from the inside, and the chrome was dented by fragments from the 3rd shot. The head shot. The soil track is a myth, that is why there is no bullet. You have now gone from smoke and a flash of light to 11 shots being fired. Where are these 11 rounds today? By your logic, was there anyone in Dealey Plaza that didn't shoot Kennedy? Examine the evidence, you stupid fuck.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
the fragments did NOT come from CE 399. look at the bullet. now look at the x-ray. and remember, the bullet, as near-pristine as it was, had small fragments TAKEN OFF OF IT FOR FBI ANALYSIS.
there is NO WAY that bullet contributed so much material in connally's left thigh.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood When CE 399 exited JFK's throat, it began to yaw and produced a keyhole wound in Connelly's back. Still at substantial velocity, it followed a rib producing bone shards that pierced the lung. It left no fragment as it exited the body. Smashing the wrist, the bullet flatened slightly, leaving traces of the core. The thigh wound contained pieces that were pin head size (less that the size of your brain) These were left in Connelly's body and buried with him years later.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
so you claim. let's see your evidence that they were pin-sized. i say you're lying. in fact, i KNOW you are. anybody who cares to can google the x-ray up.
you have ZERO credibility in here. you are a damned liar.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
here is doctor charles crenshaw. unlike YOU, he is a medical doctor AND he was present in the emergency room where kennedy was brought on nov 22, 1963.
youtube.com/watch?v=1EQc1nlbRlw
the throat wound was AN ENTRANCE WOUND. he has seen MANY OF THEM.
how can you tell?
a small round entry wound with an inflamed ring of tissue surrounding the hole.
once again, YOU are a liar.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood The wound was an exit, with the abrasion caused by JFK's clothing upon exit. The tie /shirt fabric were pushed outward. Crenshaw was the only Parkland MD to maintain this nonsense after so many years and did fairly well selling his conspiracy books before his death. The small exit was fully consistent with a 6.5 Carcano FMJ. I have seen dozens of entry and exit gunshot wounds myself. Oswald was not using an Enfield .58 Mini-ball. Else Kennedy would have had no damn neck.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 The doctors, particularly Dr. Crenshaw, have said that there were entrance wounds to the front and massive damage to the head and that the medical evidence they saw at the hospital totally contradicts the lone gunman from behind theory. You know this, and yet you continue to spin for the Warren Commission. Why?
TheLensSolution 1 month ago
@TheLensSolution
crenshaw and the attending nurse both described it as an entrance wound. the details they cited were the small hole and the ring of inflamed tissue surrounding the wound. both hallmarks of an entrance wound (although a small hole by itself can in some rare cases actually be an exit wound if the bullet doesn't hit anything and goes straight thru).
one or two coincidences would not be enough to overturn the lone gunman theory. but literally HUNDREDS are more than enough.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@TheLensSolution If you are going to buy Conspiracy, which version are you going to buy? Conspiracy theorists cannot even agree among themselves. Perhaps you and Mr. Liquor Rectum can come up with an entirely new one. You call yourself a Lawyer, for Christ's sake. Does evidence mean anything to you? If everybody but Oswald is guilty in this case, then I have another name for it. PARANOID. I have waited nearly 50 years for some of these kooks to tell me who did the shooting and with what weapon.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
politicians just love dumb asses like you.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Why don't you just post a picture of yourself (or a mug shot) so that law abiding folks with common sense can see what a dumbass really looks like. Then maybe while you Hee-Haw around all of the legitimate evidence in the case, (crenshaw said this, and petty burglar howard hunt said that) at least we will have some reference material.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Let me just share "one" piece of inside information, Mr. Rectum. If the Agency had wanted the "bastard" dead, and was willing to "frame" the Marxist "whimp" for the assassination . . . . . Oswald would have "never" left Dealey Plaza, much less the School Book Depository, alive. Dead men tell no tales, and are not paraded in front of reporters, waiting for some two bit jew strip joint hustler like Ruby to catch up with em' in the parking lot. You are extremely naive.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
Look at the little man pretending he's a spook. Come on, fess up, you're a greeter at Wal*Mart aren't you. You're the fat balding man aimlessly wandering about near the entrance trying to look useful, "earning" your 8.50 an hour by spending half the time in the back mens room stall jerking off to your David Cassidy poster from the 70's.
Good move laminating it. The cum stains wipe right off huh.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood You conspiracy people, in all of your dumb tripe that "Kennedy was such a Great man", never seem to understand, or you lose it along the way, that a sophisticated plot to kill your president would have involved taking out the lone assassin, even if we had to plant one of our guys as DPD or even Secret Service to do it. The little SOB would have been waxed before he ever talked to a reporter, because we would have been waiting for him as he tried to leave the fu*kin building.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 And don't even go there with the Tippit sh*t. Because that would mean Oswald killed Tippet before the plan was realized, and the worm can't be innocent if he shoots a cop. Oswald was the lone Marxist shooter, and Tippit was the poor dumb cop that as God would have it, got in the way. Kennedy got off'ed by a nut case. Much to the good fortune of LBJ and those of us who didn't subscribe to Kennedy's socialist tendencies. Good ridance anyway. Thanks for the memories. No more Camelot.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 when a troll ends up talking to himself, thats the saddest conspiracy in the world:( lol
homebuiltindoorplane 1 month ago
@homebuiltindoorplane
ROTFLMFAO.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
Between 12:45 and 1:00 Tippit was seen by multiple witnesses parked on the west side of the viaduct watching the traffic come across. Suddenly he peels out and goes into the Top 10 records store, pushes people out of the way and dials a phone number. No answer. Irritated, he gets into his car and peels out again 1:05 - 1:10. 1:15 dead.
Meanwhile Butch Burroughs, the ticket collector and concession stand operator at the Texas Theater sees LHO come in between 1:00 and 1:07.
oops.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
Tippit probably received a call on his radio telling him to be somewhere fast right?
WRONG. No calls made during that period. None. Nada. Zero.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Please dont feed the trolls ;)
homebuiltindoorplane 1 month ago
@homebuiltindoorplane
He isn't a troll. He's just a common run-of-the-mill dumb ass.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@TheLensSolution Crenshaw was the loose cannon of the physicians at Parkland. He became adamant in his later years with the book deals. The entrance wound in the rear of the head is very obvious in the only Autopsy photo available of the inside of the cranium. That other photos have not been released to date, you can thank Bobby Kennedy. He alone had the power in1963/1964 to release thousands of files in this case. We have since deferred out of respect to the "Kennedy family". Puke . . . . . .
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
Crenshaw is:
a. a medical doctor; who
b. attended the president on the scene; and
c. witnessed his condition first hand.
You are:
a. a nobody with an ill-informed opinion.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Mr. Crenshaw was an intern. Not by any means a qualified pathologist. The official autopsy report was signed off on by three qualified pathologists, in the presence of Kennedy's friend and personal physician, Admiral Burkley. The official cause of death was a gunshot wound to the back of the head. With all of Crenshaw's rantings and book deals, conspiracy people cannot produce evidence based upon his testimony. I have asked you folks for legal evidence, remember ?
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
Dr. Crenshaw was not an intern at Parkland Memorial Hospital at any time. Once again we have caught you telling porkies. You have been given the books and videos and led directly to school but still you refuse to learn. why? because you're a moron who believes everything his government tells him.
You are my candidate for poster child for the useful idiot.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
The intact Carcano round did NOT kill JFK. The 3rd shot that LHO fired hit JFK in the back of the head and fragmented. This is an oddity, but not unheard of, and the fragments of that bullet were matched to Oswald's rifle. The Zapruder film portrays this shot, as it does the intact wounding of JFK and Connelly. The film is PERFECTLY consistent with shots fired from behind and substantiates all of the physical evidence catalogued with the 26 volumes of the Warren Commission. Sorry Mr. Garrison.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Why is one bullet intact is not enough? Because Oliver Stone said so? Do you know one Godblessed thing about the capabilities of a 6.5 Carcano? NO YOU DON'T. The gun is reliable, efficient to operate, and deadly in the hands of an average shooter. It is well suited to a medium range sniper situation. It produced an untold number of casualties in WWII and was an effective killing machine. I have a 1940 Terni with the Japanese scope that LHO used, but NO conspiracy volunteers to stand downrange.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
bullshit. the carcano was dubbed by the italian army as the "humanitarian rifle" because it was so inaccurate and ineffective.
but even if the best sniper rifle in the world were used you lone nutters can't avoid the fact that shots 2 & 3 (as described by many witnesses -- there were actually many more) came right on top of one another. the shots were not evenly spaced out over a 6 or 9 second time period.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood You were there? And you heard this alleged barrage' of weapons? The Carcano, regardless of what you learned watching Stone's movie fantasy, is an excellent sniper rifle at 100 yds. I have not had any Conspiracy volunteers to stand downrange while I demonstrate it's capabilities. It's "humane" qualities are best demonstrated at frame 313. That sucker never knew what hit him.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
1. jfk was never hit by a carcano.
2. were YOU in the italian army using one of those weapons? no. so we have an entire army saying the weapon was shit, and then we have YOU saying it wasn't. gee, i wonder which carries more weight.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Perhaps since you have done such exhaustive research you could tell me a little bit about a Turni 6.5 Italian Carcano. Do you know they type of scope, and exactly how it was mounted? How many rounds does the "clip" hold? Is the clip ejected on the last round fired? I think Kennedy would have been safe with you in the window, everything about you seems to cum off premature. How many of the witnesses that you cite heard 11 shots? How many of those shooters were Freemasons?
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
once again dumb ass, THE ITALIAN ARMY CALLED THE WEAPON "THE HUMANITARIAN RIFLE". i don't care if you own one or even fired one. your testimony does not outweigh that of a large group of men WHOSE VERY LIVES DEPENDED ON ONE.
all you have is characterizations and innuendo. your opinion means shit when you don't back it up with anything.
the rifle they found on the 6th floor was A MAUSER. stamped on the barrel. 7.65 MAUSER. do you believe that 6.5 cartridges were used in that?
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Have you ever been arrested? If so, for what offense(s), and how many times? By whose authority do you question the motive of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, or the President? When you start to answer affirmative and question the legitimate motivations of officers and officials sworn to uphold the law, the constitution, and the moral obligations of the land, does that indicate your loyalty as a Citizen, or are you a subversive as Oswald was.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
oh brother. i suggest you seek psychiatric help immediately.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood The film evidence, immediately after the assassination clearly shows a Turni 6.5 Italian Carcano. But YOU wouldn't know that by looking. Nor would you know a Mauser from a beanpole being used as a tomato stake. I have encountered a few intelligent arguments pro Conspiracy, but not here. The same old 12 or 15 shooters behind the fence has long since been dispelled. Go back to your refrigerator before the wrestling match begins, and let this go. You are no good at it.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
1. i never claimed "12 or 15 shooters behind the fence". you just made that up. when you start making up the facts, you've already lost the argument.
2. as for the Mauser... at 04:25 of the following video...
youtube.com/watch?v=4XNHtUDEDAI
the deputy constable present at the scene identified the rifle as a mauser. it was stamped right on the barrel. plus the guy ran a gun shop.
get your damn facts straight asshole. you're wasting my time.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood Gun in the video is a Carcano. (sorry) If you can't trust the Dallas Police Department with the investigation, then you can't trust this Constable either. Also, when Lt. Day, of the DPD is photographed leaving the building, the rifle in the picture is a Carcano. You also have another problem. Why would the people who wanted to frame LHO plant a Mauser when they had a paper trail on the Carcano from Klein's Sporting Goods in Chicago on the Carcano. Does not make sense.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
where is your evidence that the carcano "at 100 yards is an excellent rifle"? why would the italian army put the moniker on it as "the humane rifle"?
the problem with arrogant asses like you is you are intellectually inferior and you don't know it. oh, your mother i'm sure is impressed. your stupid wife and idiot children may be impressed. but believe me, the rest of us are laughing at you. don't you know that you stupid fuck?
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood I deal in reality. You fantasy. I own a Carcano and I am a Carcano shooter. But I certainly was not present when you interviewed the entire Italian Army. There were no fragments in Connelly's torso. The weight of the fragments found in his wrist and thigh are less than the amount missing from CE 399. You are obviously a redneck, hence your name and you obviously wouldn't know the muzzle of a loaded firearm from a rat's ass. Last time you saw a stupid fuck was while shaving.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
I believe the bullet presented as the official bullet that killed JFK fully intact should be all that is needed as proof that something is not right ..
spliffslayer 2 months ago
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After nearly 50 years not one shed of physical evidence to indicate that anyone other than Lee Harvey Oswald shot the President and he did so alone. No verifiable photographic, ballistic or medical evidence to sustain any theory of conspiracy. On the other hand, the known physical evidence against LHO is substantial. Enough remaining after all these years even to convict him in a court of law. Sorry Conspiracy Lunatics. There is NO Santa Claus and Lee Harvey Oswald murdered the President.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@georgefreelandhill
Yes, because professional intelligence/counter intelligence agents and their pawns never create or even use back stories to cover their actions, most especially not to cover important and highly suspicious actions that will almost definitely be brought into question.
They're known for their impressive covert activities but pathetically weak cover stories and alibis that always get them in trouble and blow entire operations wide open.
This occurs because when confronte
N1k1mon 2 months ago
The umbrella was a protest against JFK's father.
It had something to do with Neville Chamberlain and Hitler.
The guy opened the umbrella in the hopes that Kennedy would see it.
George Vreeland Hill
GeorgeVreelandHill 2 months ago
um, I don't think i've ever heard anyone say this but..................WHY WOULD A SNIPER NEED SOMEONE TO GIVE HAND SIGNALS!??!?!?!?!? MORONS!!!!!!
HoorayTV21 2 months ago
Everybody in Dallas took a shot at Kennedy...only 2 hit him.
I know this because the leprechaun who lives in my underwear drawer told me.
He told me not to tell you but I figure the rest of the conspiracy whackos would protect me if the leprechaun gets mad.
hammerogod 2 months ago
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orkavorn 2 months ago
Look, stop posting videos like this. They encourage people to think critically. What a terrorizing notion!
jduplechin 2 months ago
Wait a minute! He had the SAME umbrella! The SAME umbrella, folks! EVERYONE KNOWS that umbrellas suck. They break as soon as you go out on windy, rainy day! And then you have to buy a new umbrella! Either this man had a super-duper-indestructible umbrella, or it is not the same umbrella! lol
danielscissorhands 2 months ago
Kkk, American nazi party, Congress, CIA, FBI, George h w bush, the Mafia, Cosa Nostra, ADL (anti defamation league) they're all the same to me. They all killed JFK.
darkwindow31 2 months ago
During George B. Jr's administration, they were people in Dallas who wanted to turn the small ranch house the Bush family had once lived in when he was a boy into a Texan landmark. What a disaster, how was Gearge B. Sr supposed to explain why they were there?
ScienceFindsGod 2 months ago
What an asshole. Someone should'a shot this guy instead of Kennedy. Heckle him with an umbrella? What planet is he from? He's gotta be high on crack!
rsussman11 2 months ago
Omg this is irelivante lets look at some hard evidence please no wonder they never found the assassin !!!
MyIceman12345 2 months ago
the umbrella man is the tallest tramp of the three tramps.
cruisersism 2 months ago
This video leaves out the fact that Umbrella Man actually clarified his presence at the scene during his testimony.
He wasn't "in on it". He was a conservative who didn't like Kennedy. The waving of the umbrella symbolized Joe Kennedy (JFK's father) and his friendship with Nazi appeaser Neville Chamberlain, something JFK struggled with as an adult.
I don't know all the details but it's pretty easy to Google.
DoubleTalkingJive 2 months ago
Ok, I'm game. Give me an anomaly that you think is evidence, and I'll try to provide a more reasonable explanation. I'm not trying to convince anyone, it's just an experiment in critical thinking...
coomzi1984 2 months ago
The umbrella...was a protester.
noliesundead 2 months ago
Yuck Yuck hardy har hard the president was murdered in front of us in cold blood - Where's my cheeseburger!
mattgoodnuts 3 months ago
I think if the truth was to come out it would show the world what a bunch of devils have been running the US government for years. And the extremes to which they go to have there way. It would absolutely shock the world. Put nothing past them!!!
pntdblack 3 months ago
@pntdblack Absolutely, but you what, the public would never under any circumstances allow themselves as a whole to believe, because many of those devils would turn out to be individuals the sheeple held in esteem to some degree or other. The magnitude of that evil blows the mind. Murder of thousands or murder of an individual is part and parcel of their DNA. Did you know, George Bush Sr. was in Dallas 11-22-63? Read the book "family of secrets" find it on Amazon.
Fedproman 2 months ago
What they should have done was water board this so called umbrella man. Make no mistake this murder was committed by someone in high level of our government. They used Oswald as a fall guy by using hypnosis on him and had a second person to take the final kill shot. But what does that say for our extremely corrupt government officials that have managed to cover up this cold blooded murder since then. Im sure somehow theyve justified it to themselves to get what they wanted.
pntdblack 3 months ago
Glad everybody had a good laugh at the end.
andythefork 3 months ago
The umbrella was thought to be signal to begin coordinated firing when the umbrella was open. So Witt just happens to heckle JFK with an umbrella at the first shot and through the assassination. Says he doesn't really remember it that well, was told by another extremist to do this , but still happens to bring with him the then FIFTEEN YEAR OLD umbrella he used that day. This guy is really suspicious.
TrueNovice 3 months ago
the dealy plaza footage is so shocking & personal that people get lost in it. but if concentrate on & interpret what's concretely there, on little grainy 8mm films, are some answers. guy with umbrella & accomplice with radio were likely part of team. they would logically coordinate the barrage timing - for both visual & acoustic unity effect & then confirm the kill. senate select committee forced to acknowledged a conspiracy, but did best not to delve any further. It's findings rather cynical.
100milnic 3 months ago
read Fletcher Prouty. umbrella weapon was totally REAL
mackroyal 3 months ago
The man has an umbrella and the conspiracy nuts immediately conclude he was involved in a conspiracy. They have no proof, no evidence, nothing factual to support their reckless accusations and in the process judge an innocent man guilty because they think his behavior was "odd". If the CT'ers had their way they'd have the prisons filled with innocent people. The CT'ers are a reckless and irresponsible mob and should be ignored.