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  • Everyone seems to be quoting their favourite book of their philosophy, so I'll quote mine: "It may help to understand human affairs to be clear that most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people."

  • AGAINS: In Matthew 13:42, Jesus says: "And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth

    " WAILLING AND GNASHING OF TEETH...meaning you don't burn to be destroy, but you suffer 4 ever and ever and ever for ETERNITY as JESUS said. " everlasting FIRE " mean for ever does it ? Think about it

  • The man in Luke 16:24 cries: ". . .I am tormented in this FLAME."

    In Matthew 13:42, Jesus says: "And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

    In Matthew 25:41, Jesus says: "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting FIRE,. . ."

    Revelation 20:15 says, " And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE."Revelation 14:10 says, "  and he shall be tormented with fire and BRIMSTONE . .

  • what about Lazare ? In Luke 16, Jesus Christ gives a frightening picture of hell:

    Luc16:22 the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame ...

    It's confusing does it ? Went God send the rich men to Hell !

  • Heaven is only for Saved people. Hell is for unsaved people. The Holy Bible says it.

  • This fellow has it figured out ! I agree with him 99% ! the 1% is a small item I read !

  • I had a heart attack and seen the door way to heaven. When your dead your not dead.

    After Christ comes we are given an incorruptible body. One that can't be destroyed.

    Only our body goes to the grave at the death of this physical life.

    Your spirit lives on.

  • This is Jesus Christ speaking: "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY"---Rev 1:8. <<But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, "O GOD" is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom--Hebrew 1:8..

  • Rev. 20:10 is a "revelation" from God concerning his "future everlasting punishment on the wicked..Do you wonder how God has denied Moses from entry into the promise Land just because moses was angry with the Israelites when he strikes the rock wit hanger? If you think God is all about "love" did you wonder how he "destroyed all they that murmured against him thru the wilderness?

  • God the Father,God the son and God the Holy ghost teaches you the things of God,not by intensive studying of the Bible with a "canal mind" cos the Canal might is enmity with God----conflicting..Denying one of these deity and defined "him" as another,you has made void the "power" of God.All what those that denied Christ as Saviour and as God have now is a mere canal mind rather than spiritual that should have connect the knowledge and the wisdom need to understand the word and the ways of God..

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  • You sound like Jehovah False witness,who has divided God and thereby render him a mere Angel..You can't get the things of God except by the spirit of God...And in 1 Corinthians 12:3b, it says "and that no man can say Jesus is the Lord,but by the Holy ghost"...And in 1 John 2:27 say that anointing teaches all things----things of God

  • What do you makes of 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 since you lack the "Holy ghost's anointing who would enable you to understood Rev.20:10

  • God loves me but will allow me to burn in hell in unimaginable pain for eternity because I don't believe he exists and worship him. Even a child can see that is completely nutty! I will believe he exists on judgement day. Ah! but then it is too late. God says I have to believe he exists with no evidence but then when I get real evidence it is too late.. this is just so stupid! it's almost like it's made up! it is certainly nutty. Why do people today believe this???

  • Your first question in the vis is: God is love, hen why He let people burn in hell That is peoples own choice, you can choose for God and you are saved. Its that easy, so He gives a solution.

  • @LoveJesusNotReligion Are you stupid? Before you comment about religion do some research. Daniel was talking about the Messiah's RETURN not when Jesus was first born, In Revelations after the Tribulation The world will have an age, about 1000 years, of peace under Jesus.

  • The prophet Daniel prophesied that the Messiah would put an end to sin and bring in everlasting atonement... If sin still exists, then Jesus failed and Daniel was a false prophet!

    Don't let self-righteous religious people scare you... hell is a spiritual concept, not a literal one. It is the religious who are in hell, so to speak... having no peace inside, only agony and torment.

    Remember... it was "sinners" who loved Jesus, and religious minded people who killed Him!

    Peace

  • God created polio, science cured it. God created small pox, science cured it. God created leprosy, science cured it. God created 2.million different illnesses, science has found cures for many. God created infertility, science invented IN-VITRO and an estimated 15 million new lives. God`s life averaged 45 years, science extended it to 75. 100.000 innocent children died in Haiti suffocating beneath the rubble. This ALLMIGHTY god, didn`t lift a finger to help.God is great !!

  • To the people that answered: "Thank You!". Now it's my turn to set my debate Anything, including those 3 sins I mentioned are subject to debate, but depending from what point of view & angle, the answers themselves would become debatable.

    The three sins I mentioned may not really be "sins", unless of course you believe they are. Smoking. As in many people, that's a chemical dependency. Looking at other woman is a natural response in males & a consequence according to the bible.

  • There is NO hell, thank god.

  • @lizazoon as far as the lake of fire, you are correct. As far as sheol or hades, you'll find those in your local cemetary.

  • @lizazoon as far as the lake of fire, you are correct. As far as sheol or hades, you'll find those in your local cemetary. The lake that will bakes comes after the millenium.

  • this mortal earth is what christians call the LAKE OF FIRE. You do not only live once. God does not burn or torture beings for eternity for one sin. that is the trash that Yahweh tells you. Yahweh and Jesus want you to blaspheme the GOOD GOD. God sends unworthy souls back to the mortal realm in according bodies until they become worthy to be with God again. God did not EVER die.God cannot die.Christians are going to pay for their blasphemy against GOD. They will burn like meat on a fire.

  • @ImetGodfacetoface How did you draw such a conclusion? What evidence do you have to support your rather large claim?

  • @ImetGodfacetoface God does not tell us this in the Bible. The lake will be temporary.

  • I know more than most masons ever will in their life. I met God face to face. I have left my body and been in outer space and much more. I was Christian for 23 years until God came to me. The Bible is a Jewish MYTH, plagarized and modified from BABYLONIAN texts which predate the bible by millenia.Yahweh is NOT God. He is the evil Demiurge, a lesser creator.Jesus is a myth and is blasphemous to GOD. I spit on Yahweh and Jesus with pride and confidence.I am glad God opened my eyes. THANK YOU!

  • You all are so brainwashed that we can't laugh at you anymore... we have to feel sad for you.

  • I agree with this video. I feel that when a person dies, he cease to exist until the resurrection. Now, just because I believe that doesn't mean that's the way it is because there's always the possibility beyond the reasonable doubt.

    God didn't want us to become knowledgeable until ready, but man, unable to resist "curiosity", went ahead & ate of the wrong tree before the right time,

    God punished mankind by death & that's why we die.

  • 3 Sins 1. I can't overcome: "Smoking". 2. looking at other women (I'm married & I know is bad to look at other woman, I just can't help it). 3. I like porn. I do, I've tried not to, but I just can't help it.

    Am I doomed to hell?. Can God accept me just the way I am?.

  • First of all, argent2020, can I pray for you to overcome your addictions? Second, its not my place to judge that you are "doomed to hell", and I don't believe so, but the bible does make it clear not to use tobacco and anything that may harm your body because your body is God's temple. Also one of the 10 commandments states not to commit adultry,which believe it or not, includes"just looking" at other women.

    However, on a more encouraging side, there are may texts the say to simply come to God

  • Yes, you can pray for me & I do thank you for that. I think it would also be a good idea praying for those who makes cigarettes, it may be that they may or may not go to church (I don't know, I just know I don't). I'm just about to start a program to quit smoking. As far as "looking at other woman or porn", I'll do my best to look the other way and pray to God for forgiveness of sins.

    Those are just 3 sins in which I'm aware of, but chances are there may be more even when not knowing.

    Thanks,

  • One more thing before I forget & for the record. I am a sinner!!!!, I may not be like you or others in which are sinless, but I tried to be perfect in the past, but the more I try, the less perfect & more sinful I became. Isn't that weird?.

    I want to be honest, at least trying. I don't believe in Hell, if I tell you I do, then I'm lying to you. Would you, as a human, put someone in hell for not doing your will if you have the power to decide?.

  • with your addictions and He will deliver you. It's definitely not easy, but if you really truly want to quit those addictions , you just need to give them to God, (along with your life,) and He will help you through it. For starters, try reading the bible every day, even if just for a few minutes, trust me, it makes a HUGE difference :-)

    Good luck. And if you don't mind, I will pray for you....

  • Matthew 19:26 "With God all things are possible."

  • You know?!, I believe that. I believe that if your hand is cut off and God wants to grow another hand, it will be so. But, having the power to do so doesn't mean he would do it simply because he is not obligated.

    That makes sense. Just imagine, Jesus resurrected Lazarus 4 days after he died (Jesus said he was sleeping), why not grow a leg or a hand in case you lost it?. That would be easy for God to do. But I know there's a time for everything.

  • @argent2020 according to christianity you're bound for eternal suffering, you're going to the pool of fire! Isn't that a nice punishment for a finite crime(if you can even call it a crime)? Well, I used to believe in the same BS until I finally decided to do some research! Now I know the threat of hell is nothing more than a scare tactic use to control the behavior of the masses! Believe what you want to though!

  • @argent2020 How are things going for you now?

  • @bornbythesea It seems that things are going well. So far so good. So good that I'm in the process of buying a new house. However, I'm being very carefull because a house of 110 K after 30 years end up like more than 300 K, so, I'm looking for other alternatives (A larger downpayment & paying more to the principal every month...like $400.00 or so).

    How about you?.

  • @argent2020 I am hoping you will purchase a place to live way out in the boondocks, because the cities will become like cauldrons of evil. But I also would like to know if you had some of your questions answered as far as spiritual things.

  • @bornbythesea I'm reading a book title "The magic of thinking success". I wish I would of read this book when I was very young. Why is it that in the schools they don't teach nothing like it?. I've never hear a teacher saying something like...Our most precious sense is "mind sight". Turn adversities into opportunities. You have the power to be what you want, go where you choose, accomplish great objectives, climb any ladder.

  • @argent2020 have you heard of a book called The Great Controversy? This will be another book you wish you had as a child.

  • @argent2020 I'm going to save you some time and heartache. i wen't throught the same struggle myself. the reason you can't stop doing those things is because you are human. God will not help you overcome those things because he doesn't exist. and if the things you listed are the worst things you have ever done then you are a saint among men. you will be a much happier person if you put all the time and energy that you put into god into the people who really matter like your wife and family.

  • @johnnythesailorman Hi, one question. Before going through the same struggle (s), where you a Christian or a religious person since birth?. I tell you the truth; I was.

    The struggles followed me back then for being part of the faith which were different from practitioners of other faiths (There're many) . Now days, my struggles increased by the addition of those of whom at one point I shared the same faith. Is it in our nature to be or not to be, believers of any given faith?.

  • @argent2020 I was more or less of a deist from childhood til a religious experience made me become a born again bible believing christian around the age of 23. a year later after careful consideration (long story) i became an agnostic atheist. i dont understand the middle part of the question but i think some people are hereditarily more prone than others to be religious or spiritual. some peoples brains just seek deeper meaning and religion often fits that niche better than most other things.

  • God provided the bible for us for our knowledge... However, you are correct too because He only provided us with the knowledge that we need in order to be saved and go to Heaven. And that is the complete purpose of the bible. As for other details, I, along with many other people have questions that we would like to ask God, that were not provided for us because we didn't REALLY need to know the answers until we are in heaven with Him eternally...

  • 1GoodAngel, I want to make it clear that I don't want to contradict you or even argue in our believes. I respect you. I have a problem, see?, I work in the system & study criminal justice. One entire chapter is devoted to investigations & I apply that to my own beliefs or any beliefs. There are steps to follow. Define & secure. Establish if a crime was committed, and if so, who committed the crime. That's just the basics. Everything is consider as evidence.

  • When you go over the- Anecdotal Evidence, Testimonial Evidence,Statistical Evidence, Analogical Evidence (among other type of evidence). Look at this: Evidence of an indirect nature which implies the existence of the main fact in question but does not in itself prove it.

    Like the concept of hell, In which to my opinion does not in itself prove it, contrary to God that can prove himself.

    What do you think?.

  • Reading the comments are always quite amusing. Humans (intelligent?) actually discussing myths like they had any basis in reality. As if there were any *evidence* behind them.

    This is a scary world indeed.

  • I agree with this video. Romans 6:23 makes it clear that its a choice between Eternal Life or eternal death. The unsaved don't get eternal life in the fires of hell.

    After the New Heavens and Earth are created no sinful things exist anymore.

  • (i have not watched the whole vid. yet when i write this) if there is no people in hell yet, why did jesus went there when he died and took them with him? but interesting..

  • nice video

  • Judgment takes place before the second coming. The rewards are given out at the second coming.

  • yeah, that's what I meant... When I went back and watched the video, I realized that I had written it wrong to make it seem like the judgement is at the 2nd coming, what I meant is that the "reward" FROM the judgement is at the 2nd coming. Thanks for pointing this out...

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