The Mysterious Origins of Christmas - Jan Irvin at the Living Temple, Dec 20, 2008

[beckderm]

Doc Marquis on Occult Holidays is a good one to add to this

[babblingwizdom]

Brilliant, finally got time to watch it! Thank you

[Justin9Noble]

love that hat. can't wait to watch this.

[mikeVII]

Jan, where'd you buy your hat

[FourSeasonsGal]

Very enlightening- thanks much.

[Guzzy30]

Great stuff as usual.......you should sell the hat. Maybe a "thinking cap" to go with a dvd? It's a cool hat you don't see everywhere & it has meaning.

[boazzaob]

Thank you!

[charronfamilyconnect]

Have you guys come across these sacred mushrooms in North America and have tried them? Thanks!

[Justin9Noble]

@charronfamilyconnect yes and yes.

[kroovyandcal]

I know that the number 13 works marvelously in the division of the number 365. If there were 13 months in the calendar, then every 13 years we would have a leap year. If we had 13 signs for the zodiac (which does not work out very well) then the sun would be 14 and 14 would be the holy number, for there ain't no one four (14) to give you no blame.

[charronfamilyconnect]

I apologize for saying your got your info. from zeitgeist. How about Jordan Maxwell? You get any info. from Jordan Maxwell or did Jordan (your senior)get this from you as well? Lets me honest! Thanks!

[GnosticMedia]

@charronfamilyconnect You can see all of our sources in the book. Unfortunately, Maxwell doesn't provide any sources, or few, so we didn't use him much. Most of this stuff is published in the academic journals, but there are over 500 footnotes in the book for your perusal.

[charronfamilyconnect]

@GnosticMedia Thanks again! I love info. like this. Wish I had more hours in the day to research. Being a father of two boys, and a single income household doesnt alot much time to research. Any sources you can point me to would be welcomed. I am at charronbcatyahoodotcom. Thanks again!

[GnosticMedia]

@charronfamilyconnect Just go to our Gnostic Media website... we've tons of this stuff up there.

[Psy0psAgent]

@charronfamilyconnect 1:02:05. Check that out. Im guessing you didnt watch the whole thing and you have picked up taunting meme from bad programming or you have another agenda, but that`s just a guess. The process of elimination. 

[charronfamilyconnect]

@Psy0psAgent Yeah sure I have an agenda. I am a mole for the NWO. What you think? I am no different than you man. I am curious, but am not sure how much of this to believe but I am open to ideas.

[styace]

This is interesting and probably very true but the lecturer has kind of a HIPPY vibe that i find annoying.

[charronfamilyconnect]

Do you guys belief that Jesus was simply a composite figure of old gnostic faiths/cults rolled up into one figure or do you guys belief a person(human being not divine god) named Jesus walked this earth preaching that we love the neighbour and that god is love and was an enlighted human being in touch with his divine inner spirit??

[TheAwakenedOne]

Want to know the real meaning behind the song, "Don't you eat that Yellow Snow!"?

Fast forward to 1:23:30

[aquariussouldier]

@GnosticMedia Haha I just realized you ARE the guy behind the Pharmacratic Inquisition! Must be the remnants of my xmas intoxication. How fitting!! Btw I am a great advocate of entheogens, of astrotheology, and all things esoteric. Thanks to the great work by people like yourself, some profound secrets of the elite's have been revealed to those who were not born behind their closed doors, which are quite simple once you know it :) Thanks for what you do, keep it coming mate!!

[indibabs122275]

Wow something just hit me... You said Kronos was the "god of time?" Well every lab I have worked in has a time clock that is electronic, we swipe our badges that allow us in certain parts, it logs what area we were in... and it is called KRONOS System...... it clocks us in and out...

[charronfamilyconnect]

Looks like the video presenter here watched the Movie Zeitgeist as this looks like a rehash. Nothing not already known here or should I go back the 10 min mark in hopes that there is something new and original here. Am I too quick to judge? Far as I know not much is known about Mithras so is it possible zeitgeist took this subject too far? I am open to new ideas, and realize all kinds of ideas can be stretched beyond the point of reality. Anyways, interesting video so far!

[Revolt1680]

@charronfamilyconnect It's very basic astronomy peppered with religious history here and in Zeitgeist... they didn't create it. You might also check out Santos Bonacci.

[aquariussouldier]

@charronfamilyconnect It is more based on the work of the Pharmacratic Inquisition

[GnosticMedia]

@charronfamilyconnect If you did your research, you'd know that Peter J. took much of his work for Zeitgeist from me, as I'm cited as a source for that video. My work on Christmas came out LONG before Zeitgeist did, so get your facts straight before slinging false accusations. And Zeitgeist doesn't go into quite a lot of what's here. And if you want to know about Mithras, go read academic journals in a library or read Carl Ruck's book Mushrooms, Myth and Mithras.

[charronfamilyconnect]

@GnosticMedia I apologize for my comment. I was looking for an explanation on this, and you gave a good one. Thanks again! I am just here to learn and not dispute anything. This stuff is still new to me. Hopefully, it leads to finding the whole truth and nothing but. I have to say, from the time I read the old testament in full, I realized that the gospels were a reflection of human nature and not divine nature. Presently, I am an agnostic cause I still dont know the real truth!

[IAMME857]

THANKS JAN, Just what I was asking for yesterday at activist post, Its my xmas tradition to wake people up to astrotheology and the true origins of xmas and religions.

[Plum369]

Cardinal Mahoney looks like Steven Colbert

[illtrax]

Thanks for sharing Jan :)

[boazzaob]

Thanks !

[theyaretheconspiracy]

My questions are who were the artists and where were they schooled to know these things? surely all of them can't be ignorant of the true meaning of the symbolism involved. It all just can't be repitition over the ages, can it?

[aquariussouldier]

Great lecture. One hole I noticed in your work was when you said Jan 1st is an arbitrary day to start the new year on, but Jan 1st is actually the day of the year when there is an alignment between the Sun, the Earth and Sirius, our Sun's binary.

[immayhem]

@aquariussouldier actually,it was on January 4th this year.

[aquariussouldier]

@immayhem Really? I did not know that. Still, over a 26,000 year period, 3 days is still pretty close. I guess minor perterbations over the vest distances in space could account for that. :)

[neilemac]

Aha, the smoking gun behind the colorful tale of xmas; a red 'shroom! Totally comprehended, at last. Don't get me started on organized religion, though. Had often thought 'Holy Communion' aught to be LSD or psilocybin inducing 'higher consciousness" i.e. GOD within. Now witnessing your formidable 'flick' on the origin of Christmas makes it all the more credible. Have felt it, the whole story is an allegory. Everyone everywhere aught to see it, ingest a 'shroom ..and awaken the reality. Peace!

[nhrevolutionist]

Thank you for all your hard work Jan. I tell you what, Joe Rogan need's to hire you on as a consultant for his podcast because I'll hear him dismiss or discredit many things that I know you could correct him on when it comes to things like consciousness, meditation, health, etc. : ]

[poerik]

nice work

[blackbrolly]

Great work

[vmcebollero]

I was wondering why your appearance had changed. Thank you for all your hard and passionate work, Blessed be <3