(MESSAGE FOR THE CREATOR OF THIS RIDICULOUS VIDEO) I think you must be dead after updating this type of SAD thought of yours in the public media.. If you are'nt then somebody will find u and do it for PEACE (yours and all) U know 1 thing....only a SON OF A BITCH can write things like these because he is dis-appointed of his own life...looser..and little info is always dangerous...baaki eh padhe likhe bandian dian gallan ne, tainu kithe samaj aonian ne..
Fuck off you Donkey. You are not even good enough to be the SHIT of the highly respected Gurus. Try comparing your stupid thoughts(Donkey) with that of Guru Tegh Bahadur (a true Singh)
The uploader's write-up sounds like that written by a teenager....lol. My advice to him: Grow back your Kesh, stop getting drunk, forget Bhindranwale (scary looking fanatical nut), UNDERSTAND the words and actions of your great Gurus (such as Guru Tegh Bahadurji), emulate your Gurus as much as possible, finish atleast High School....and finally take Amrit. Congrats, now you are a true Singh:)
does anybody know "separation of powers" no prime minister can order the army to act. Fuuccck Indra. Army Soldiers are swear to constitution of nation. not to a misguide cunt Bhandrawala. Army soldiers die for dignity of their country but nobody remember them. Those sikhs army soldiers died clearing the Cunt Bhandrawala gang must be respect. Please stop this religious conflict. only outsider benefits.. This video is made by Pakistani..
most hindus and westerners in india-abroad are not aware that some sikhs are secretly allies with muslims and demonize hindus (e.g. bhindranwale) but still a great majority Sikhs are gems. But some sikhs have stooped so low that they turn a blind eye or write just a few words about muslim atrocities against hindus,sikhs etc. Bangladesh genocide in which half millions hindus were killed which these half muslim Sikhs rarely talk about but same sikh will write pages about 2002 riots, dalits etc.
i don't care about any other sant baba bull shit because they are all fake i only bow down to SGGS and not even my mother but baba bhindrawala i love him so much hes my role model you are alive in my heart
Listen to me I m telling you to leave this bullshitt talks people are only fans of sant jarnail singh bhindranwale he is our hero he died for sake of sikhism whether you like it or not media is all bullshit and speak crap against him but we dont care people know reality of him Its our personal opinion I think you are not Punjabi born come and see reality of "84" then you will know what are true facts
Guru Gobind was a Pimp he sold his wife sisters and daughters fudis to invading army MusIim Soldiers of Afzal Khan who pounded, jackhammerd banged thrust and wolloped Sikh fudis with their huge lslamic cocks and squirted islamic cock juice in sikh fudus and sikh womne get multiple orgazms and Guruji make money like Sikh PIMP. This is why all sikh&hindu women are whores.PAKlSTAN ZlNDABAD!
Gadhe u want 2 see look at urself in mirror we see daily Gadhe"s like you worshipping dicks known as your shiva Linga,Worshipping Nude Naga Sadhus,Worshipping animals like bitches,Cows,Elephants,Mouse ETC and even drinking Cow"s Piss that you people consider sacred Tourists come and laugh at your stupid cultures and respect ours and even become Sikhs where low castes r thrown from Hindu temples beggars come 2 our Gurdwara where equality is their to have some food go n fuck cows pussy
You are such a dumbass man....you have no knowledge of modern hindu religion....I am an educated sikh with combined hindu and sikh family...it is a blessing. Whatever you have written is total crap as you have no knowledge of anything....have you ever been to India or are you a US juttoooo....shame on you for being a sikh!!
learn to spell first you bloody faggot don't know proper English atleast you said jai khalsa for Khalsa only we have died for right only we have died and you so called India is also their coz of our sacrifices where was map of india b4 47 we could have our independent nation Khalistan and get away from you peop
yaah dude I know ppl like them cant call themselves Sikhs who bow their heads to Gandhi"s they are gandhi Chamcha"s for sure or they dont know the fact what happened they are blinds
Master Tara Singh was our respected leader and never wanted anystaan....sikhs have the autonomy since 1967 when Punjab was divided on the basis of language, ordinary and good sikhs have decent jobs and pretty happy living within a secure India..Jai Bharat. Only Khalistaan movement is outside India and all foreign governments do nto acknowledge any Istaan outside India; why are you worried about what Hindus do or don't do in their religion..grow up as a decent sikh.
you call urself a sikh u might have cut your hair goin 4 drugs etc bhindranwale went from village to village telling youth to leave drugs,not to cut hair,recieve baptism and you tell me about sikhism have you ever read gurbani you cunt
@Tonyr00 ohk i will tell you the whole history my son
Why people demanded Khalistan why ppl pick up guns?? only and only govt was responsible b4 84 they torture sikhs,turbans were removed The bitch indira gandhi protected fake nirankari bustad leader gurbachan singh,police tortured and raped b4 84 only then sikhs said why they r living in such slavery that v could have our natin b4 47 only why di'nt v take it that time when sikhs killed guilty why they r terrorists?? they are our heroes got dat
and in 1984 this how you hindus replied killing over 100,000 sikhs knowing that indra ghandi attacked the most holy place for all the sikhs
sant jarnail singh was the bravest man the world has ever had he wasent a coward. he leaded the all the sikh and fought against the indian army he kinew there is a very small chance of defeating them but he still had the guts to fight and sacrifice himself to save darbar sahib
You are so stupid man...talking from your backside....you do not have any idea of facts...."He sacrificed himself to save darbar sahib"...what a fuckign crap you are talking you gadha!!
Our Darbar Sahib was never in danger.....Bhindranwale occupied Akaal Takht - a different building and bypassed adn refuted all the elected sikh leaders and Prabandhak Committe of Harmandir Sahib...and took the path of violence and destruction....
I was in Punjab at the time of these events and you show me and prove that 100,000 sikhs were killed.....you have no proof you idiot.....it was no where near to or anything like what you say from your farting bum....just a gadha!!
@AllTheWayMohan "he still had the guts to fight and sacrifice himself to save darbar sahib"...erm you really need to read up...he took over the darbar sahib and took in guns and like a coward used the real sikhs who were there to worship as hostages. The Indian army attacked the darbar sahib after he went in. Im not saying they were right. But he decides to go into the darbar sahib like he owns the place.
@AllTheWayMohan- WRONG. Bandarwale hid in Akal Takht because he never foresaw the indian army attacking him there. He also thought that even if they did attack him, he wanted to cause as much collateral damage to the place as possible so that the gov't would loose all credibility with sikhs and more sikhs would support his NUTSO ideas of Khalistan. This scary fanatic was just that...a Thug, NOT a Singh. He bullied and exterminated all who disagreed with him..The Gurus would beat his pathetic ass
Bro v dont give damn to anyone of what others say its your personal thinking abt sant jarnail singh keep it wid urself this is democratic country its our matter of whom v consider our martyr or not we dont mind its ur thinking Bhindranwale was against those who ruined Sikhism and all dese dera baba"s etc but what happened after 1984 we can never forget putting tyres in front of family thousand of ppl attacking sikh cowardly how can any1 forget that
1984 was DISGUSTING and I think that Sikhs shud let these Hindus know abt what happened. It is very sad that most Hindus are unaware (just like they are unaware abt sufferings of us Kashmiri Pundits). Re: Bhindranwale, He was no Sant. He was narrowminded and bullied and killed anyone who did not agree with him, not to mention that he hid in Akal Takht knowing very well that there was a chance that it wud get destroyed- SHAMEFUL...Gurus NEVER forced others to follow Sikhi
See Broder everyone has some postive and negative Roles Indira gandhi was not a Durga whom you people call She was the most corrupt lady although she touched bhindranwale only and only reponsible for 84 was nehru gandhi parivaar
@SinghMankaran I never refer to her as "Durga" cause durga ain't corrupt! Indira was one of the first corrupt and totalitarian leaders of india (a disgrace to us Kashmiris)...BUT, there are huge similarities between her and her arch nemesis(Bandarwale). Both:
1) were strong minded/hard headed
2) neither was willing to compromise
3) Both knew that they were going to die in this fiasco
4) BUT, Bandarwale hid in Akal Takht- BAD. Indira kept her Sikh guards knowing that she wud die...She Wins for me
This is total crap that bhindranwale killed Hindus in buses this above guy talking and saying in golden temple some kinda dirty things happen This is total Bukvaas was he present that time the guy who is talking crap yaah I know many Innocent hindus were killed but it was not bhindranwale role they were govt men who killed Hindus and Sikhs in buses SOme sikhs fought for right cause some for bad but were those ppl bathed from Milk who put tyres on our Sikh bro
@Anotherkashmiri Who did he force to follow sikhi? And to that statement that he was hiding in the akal thakt. Also give me an example of a person he killed for not agreeing with him. He wasn't hiding. He made it clear that he was there. His simple goal was freedom. So i encourage you to learn more about the topic what started it and why it ended that way before you start throwing out statements like.
I have learned enough to know that it is outrageous for a "freedom fighter" to hide at a sacred site, knowing very well that there were pilgrims there and he was staking their well being in the process, not to mention that he shoudln't have been there to begin with! For all his big talk, he hid behind pilgrims at the Temple because he thought that the army would never attack him there. Disgusting lack of judgement on his part (though I am against the attack on the temple as well)
@Anotherkashmiri bro we live like lions we die like lions either we will get our right or we die fighting for our rights india promised us so many things after independanve ananpur sahib resolution but after independance we became a threat n terrorists asking for the rights we were pomised 70 of 100 were sikhs who died for india and they backstabbed us saying wo sama aur tha ab sama aur hai. When india refused to give us our rights we had to die fighting Bhindranwale woke up the sleeping kaum
@Anotherkashmiri Punjab was made into an army camp literally why and why was 42 other gurudware also attacked and now this year when we ask for construction of out gurudwara Guru nANAK DEV JIS WE R PUT behind bars i am talking about the year 2012. it was to kill the self to right determination of sikh n kill the movement why were amritdhari sikhs targetted and bodies no longer found. when jaswant singh khalra found out corpses dad bodies of sikh in hindu temples even he was abducted n killed ?
@Anotherkashmiri in idnia we r hindus under the indian constitution so we r not sikhs but hindus shame on india but in pak we r categorised as sikh even a sepearaste sikh marrige act
@Anotherkashmiri Sant bhindranwale always supported the truth and followed the teachings of sikhi. when he was in punjab the alcohol and drug rate dropped n he preached people to follow on the right path, he never perched bad things about any religion, look in his videos he said a proper muslim should be proper muslim a hindu should be a proper hindu n sikh should be proper sikh. he was the front face of the sikh uprise against indian government (police) who discriminated sikhs and raped women
I don't know why you removed your previous comment..LOL. Btw, I agree with your "removed" comment- that Sikhism has defended rights of others(like Guru Tegh Bahadur saved us Pundits in Kashmir). My previous reply was to another comment u had made which actually implied the OPPOSITE of what u NOW seem to imply..lol. Regarding ur view that Hindu/sikh must follow their religion...Neither u nor I are God himself and therefore we cannot force others to follow their religion a certain way
and too all the hindus out here disrespecting this great man here yo'll probably dont know but its cause of sikhism your religion is still known if our 9th guru
siri guru teg bahadur ji didn't sacrifice his life for hindus your religion would have been rubbed of this world
but yoll still dont get it we live in a multicultural society now we are not suppose to fight like savages what indra Gandhi did was totally wrong and i can totally understand how most of the sikhs feel cause my own granddad died in saving darbar sahib. but that doesn't mean we should blame all the hindus on earth cause of that incident
@abhi07ist bro is you dont have any first hand info dont talk shit about this great man. May be a terrorist to you but for me he was a fearless lion who roared for the rights of Sikhs and punjab, he had strong basis for his arguments. Do some unbiased research before calling him a terrorist.
@abhi07ist You seem to forget that he paid for hindu girls marraiges. He never killed hindu's first. What you cant explain is why over 300 Gurdwaras were attcked during operation blue star. the indian government knew exactly where he was so why are over 250,000 sikhs missing?? Why were the media blocked from seeing what was happening? It makes you wonder what Indira Gandhi had to hide
Any proof that he killed Hindus????? what rubbish,crap are you speaking about him Tell me any proof against him that he killed Hindus in buses Bullshit
Shitttt man how can you put false claims on such a highly saint person it happens in your Hinduism mainly not in our Sikhism so stop it
@hellogibraltarhello he was a real fightera true saint soldiers not like 99% of sikhs who just live a lifeearning waelth n sittingdoown with family he took to the masses ad woke em up from deep sleep
bhindrawale di ma di fuddi... Mhaje de jatt died.. nobody remember.. he is kutta pushing agenda of badal... to come to power... baba avtar singh brahma
baba gurcharan singh manochahal and endless mhaje de jatt worrior died.. nobody remember... bhindrawala kuta matar chod.. living in china now... nobody care..... badal maybe protecting... notice why kill longowal because bhindrawale is cunt
@1212qaqa o kanjara kutya kujj sahram karr teri ma ta vaddi gasti honi aa uh ta pata lagg hi gaya tu ta apni jaat app hi show karr diti dae gurua ne ta tuhanu barabari da darja dita si parr kute nu kheer hajam nahi hundi teri ma kutti aa jihne tere warga kkutta jamya net ta bakwaas karnai bahut saukhi aa jadd teri ma nu lai jande si chak k ta sant g hi chuda k launde si kanjari di aulaad sala.
Long live the memory and fighting traditions of great Sikhs like Sant Bhindranwale. These lions of Sikhism fear no corrupt terrorist governments and only bow down to the true government and leader of every Sikh on this earth....our Sri Guru Granth Sahib Sahib Ji
@SinghMankaran You numbnut- Understand the difference between:
1)The Khalsa- a remarkable force as created by Guru Gobind Singhji and...2) Khalistan- a totalitarian intolerant shithole created by a scary looking Fanatic with next to NO understanding of Sikhi or the teachings/actions of the Gurus. Now, finish high school, grow back your Kesh, Give up alcohol, stop chasing girls, listen attentively to the teachings explained in Kirtan, get Amrit...Congrats, now you are a Real Sikh!
mere uncle corporation vich c ona koll 84 roits de sikh de inquiry aye c. jad inquiry kite ta 30 wich 27 bande eda de c jina de ghar 2,4 AC lage hoye c.. kun ke jinda da naam list wich c o kise na kise tara kise neeta nu jande c. ya jo 2-2 war muafja lai chuke ne. jo asli hakdar ne ona nu ta sirf votta wele rally wich ya dharne wich use kita janda. sab khan nu baithe ne. ya loka ne bharkon lai.
Main v Punjabi han par, 90 percent Punjabi bhai mund akal de sikar ne for example:-
1). They go to other countries and work as cleaners and then sing songs sari duniya vich soniye Punjabiyan nu kon ni jandha. Reality is Punjabiyan ne saariyan de kapde doye ne is layi saare jande ne.
2). Punjabiyan ne baande bahut marre ne aaj tak. Have Punjabi made car, mobile, electricity, tv, motorcycle, engines, tractors, Reality is white men made all these things. We sadly do not have brain.
@fourclours punjabi are to be honest a 'fukra' kaum bas uchi uchi ganay ga sakday aa te larr sakday ...ehna de gittia vich akal aa, you are abosolutely right, I'm a punjabi and sadly if i was given a choice i wouldnt want to be born in this brain dead culture and my heart bleeds while i'm saying this.
@canuck1980 Do not worry bhaji we are the new generation of Desh Punjab. I myself 25 years old Jatt Sikh. We will make Punjab a land of hope not poverty, Equality not sardari, Prosperity not poverty, Peace not violence, Law and order not anarchy. Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. And time of Punjab has come. God bless United states of Punjab. ;)
@fourclours 1. british in the mid 1600s under the banner of the east india trading company 2.electricity came around 1880's, cars werent invented then, if there were no schools then how did people learn to read and write?, what do you call the maharajas army? no elections because there was a king the british had a queen 3. there was only 1 kin and under him were landlords in different regions 4. have you ever herd of the industrial revolution it happened in the late 1800s
@IIKSII1 Bhaji do not go into detail matlab samjho. We go to austarlia, america, uk, canada, dubai, qatar, bahrain, new zealand, italy, france, TO GET BEATEN BY WHITE MEN. Do they come to Punjab.
where's khalistan? you fucking dumbasses got people killed for no reason? sikho tusi khalistan taan mangg rahe ho parr, do you even have any resources? you'll be a sorry state in the world, many sikhs in the world dont want khalistan in the first place, tusi salyeo theka liya hoya sabb da, pehla salyeo ek ta ho jao, thono gurdware banuan tau bina horr kujj aunda vi aa? sikha ne ki ditta dunya nu? people are inventing medicines and going to moon, sikha ne ki kita?
@canuck1980 Khalistan will be established it really is that simple Sikhs recite in unison the litany, Raj Karega Khalsa. Punjab has more then enough resources Punjab is the country's buffer against starvation I would love to see how long Hindu majority neghbouring states will last without Punjabs river water. Khalistan will be fine while India is sending Hindus to the moon forgetting more then 1/3 of the entire worlds poor is within India with a out of control growing population.
@EliteEstablishment so your plan is to somehow stop the punjab rivers flow from going to India? and what waters are you talking about most of the water in Punjab is poisonous due to the type of crops people keep growing (again being a typical sheep), Punjab's rescources were there about 20 years back when we were the #1 state, now we are one of the worse Khalistan is a pipe dream be realistic.
@canuck1980 The fact is 5 to 6 million Sikhs outside Punjab are more powerful then more of 2/3 of the whole of Hindustan. You yourself admitted the fact now we are one of the worse states with so many problems in Punjab a civil war is bound to take place. Punjab or Kashmir will break free it will paralyze northern India no problem a chain reaction with other states breaking free. India will last no longer then the british raj.
@EliteEstablishment dont count all 5-6 mil outside of Punjab that are pro khalistan, atleast you can count me out, civil war was created by who? dont tell me only India, its was bhindrawalas speeches that brain washed the youth, te buses vicho innocent hindu kad maarnay kitho da insaaf aa, kehray guru ne eda keha, yes i know there were 1984 riots but sikhs went around killing hindus to start with, dont blame India or hindus for everything, sikhs have to take some of the blame for starting shit .
@canuck1980 Sikhs went around killing Hindus first LMAO even your corrupt Indian government has never fabricated any such evidence of mass killings of Hindus by Sikhs for faith give me just example during the 80s and 90s of a single Hindu temple or Hindu scripture being damaged in anyway by a so-called Sikh terrorist but on the contrary we all know what Hindus have done to Sikhs Muslims Christians I can provide you with dates locations etc you can only give me Hindu media reports based on myths
@canuck1980 Khalistan is a pipe dream be realistic. RE ok so lets be realistic what has Sikhs within Punjab accomplished in Punjab for Punjab since 1947 with the Hindu Government the answer is nothing. Sikhs succeeded only before 1947 and today outside Hindustan ask yourself where is the problem and what is that problem? Lets be realistic the majority of Hindustan just want to put faith in a flying monkey and carry on claiming super power with more problems then any other nation including afica.
@EliteEstablishment oh my god are you serious? what was excatly the achievements of sikhs before 1947? no one was asking for Khalistan then until fundamentlist like you and bhindrawala came along to fuck everything up, until today we aren't fully recovered from the shit you started. whats the real agenda of khalistan has anyone ever cared to explain? how will you create the govt, who will be the leader, what will be the consitituion? nothing bas bhonki chalo khalistan khalistan LOL.
@canuck1980 no one was asking for Khalistan then until fundamentalist like you and bhindrawala came along RE Bhindranwale never asked for Khalistan the movement took place after operation blue star So explain to me why did Hindus abandoned Punjabi in order to block the formation of a Punjabi state entire states drawn up on the lies of Hindus and going on about Khalistan did haryana and parts of Himachal also khalistan for states or was it just more Hindu bullshit?
@EliteEstablishment hindus abondoned punjab people were gettin killed with their families, jado jaan te payi hundi aa udo pata lagda, its easy to say shit, when i was a kid our childhood was ruined because every second day there were khalistani asking for punjab band, we weren't allowed outside the house after 5pm, bass aahi karr sakday aa khalistani.
@canuck1980 hindus abondoned punjab people were gettin killed with their families LMAO THIS WAS BEFORE 1966 what khalistani terrorists are you talking about????????????????????????? please do explain to according to you Hindus lied about their mother tongue due to khalistanis yet this occurded long before 1966 can you list me the terrorist killing of that year and before please do also provide me with solid proof????????????????????
oh please what you talking about? dont you remember the days when people were told to wear khalistani turbans and school uniforms were changed, eh kitho da ensaaf aa? dhakay naal sikh banao ge tusi? eda koi convert ni hunda te koi hoia vi, kinnay munday kuria ne amrit chakk lia? ajj kall no one gives a fuck about khalistan, kissay de kann te bandook rakh ke jo marzi karawa lao, tusi loka di soch na badal sakay Khalistani movement is a failure, eda hi jehrwa gholday pehro ge tusi.
@canuck1980 lol people was never told to wear khalistani turbans and school uniforms lmao that’s by far the biggest load of bullshit you have produced so far so what about mona who was shaheed fighting for Khalistan what about the turbaned police officers does that mean they was following the khalistani code lol the fact is Sikhs don’t force their religious beliefs on anyone unlike the Hindu government who have declared Sikhs are Hindus under article 25 of the constitution of piss drinkin India
@EliteEstablishment wtf are you talking about? were you even there when this shit went down? i had to wear a priticular uniform and most schools in punjabs had to sing 'deh shiva barr moh eha' in school prayers, i went through that shit it was horrible, dont you deny the truth, i'll look up the news and post it here, schools were told to wear certain uniforms, prayers and people had to keep hair, you just have no idea do u? you just read shit in books, i was fucking there when it happened.
@canuck1980 i had to wear a priticular uniform and most schools in punjabs had to sing 'deh shiva barr moh eha' in school prayers,
That say was in schools long before the khalistan movement and is still in schools it’s in every state according to the state ok go ahead let’s stick to this topic then provide me with your links etc. that khalistanis enforced school children to pray etc and I will provide you with the fact over 100,000 braches of RSS doing the same challanage are you ready?
@EliteEstablishment i'm not denying what the RSS is doing they are fukcing radicals as well just like Khalistanis, why do you feel sikhs have to go to extreme lenghts to get thier point across why not use the media, i wore those certain uniforms but i will provide you links
why do you feel sikhs have to go to extreme lenghts to get thier point across
I asked myself the same question why are Sikh driven to the most extremes for the most basic of rights only to be labelled extremists. Why was those rights denied to Punjab but not other states language land water rules laws etc
@EliteEstablishment (1) sikhs especially fundamentlists are totally emotional, they have the 'ask questions later shoot first' mentality, thats what i'm trying to get at, do we have to follow the same paths?, time to think diffrently to get your point across, and trust me there's other states in India that have their fair share of issues, southerns are crying their blues too, sikhs have always hated Indian Govt., instead of bitching and accusing why not try other ways to work with govt. .....
@IIKSII1 yes and i think you haven't read the resolution, it was merely a resolution the things that they were putting in that resolution was absolutely stupid, how can they claim ti baptize sikhs on a mass sacle me being a sikh, i'd like to have a choice weather me or my kids should be baptized and they were trying to have school teachers and kids baptized. WTF?
@canuck1980 clearly your on crack first sant jarnail singh himself said no one cane just become amritdhari they have to choose the path themselves secondly the anandpur sahib resolution was made to show how the promises made during '47 weren't met. thing such as to have chandighar be given back to punjab, the control of the rivers back to punjab, have gurbani from harmandirsahib broadcasted to sikhs around the world to have amritsar free from meat alcohol and tobacco similar to hindu holy cities
@IIKSII1 when the caste system gets out of sikh religion it self you can make any claims, first we gotta clean up our own shit before we start pointing fingers
@IIKSII1 what you are saying is an issue of punjab it self its really doesnt have anything to do with the sikh religion itself, sikhs are part of punjab and they shoud try make punjab better not ask for a diffrent country, that will furthar make things complicated, gurbani from amritsar was being broadcasted around the world until sukhbir badal decided to take over the media and who's father literlly owns SGPC, so who excatly do u beleive represent sikhs today? in a true way.
@canuck1980 who asked for a country....look into things do some research and youll see that sant jarnail singh never wanted to separate but bluestar is the reason why we want to gurbani was never broadcasted until the last couple of years ....what represents sikhs today, did yesterday and will tomorrow...sri guru granth sahib but people make their own sikhi... sgpc akali dal are b.s they are fakes they use religion as a mean to justify their views
@IIKSII1 gurbani was wasn't broadcasted who really cares think about it? people who are true sikhs are gonna still listen to gurbani one way or another .. there's so many resources today and still sikhi isn't going anywhere why? because Sikhs are divided on opinions like you and me, i for one dont give a shit about having khalistan i just want equal punjab, but there are sikhs who think with sword or guns, thats why i never agreed what bhindrawala did.
@canuck1980 sri harmandir sahib isnt just any ordinary place and if you failed to see that then thats pretty sad... rescourses today but what about 27 years ago and before that? was it that easy to go online and hear and read bani? its not a matter of khalistan its a matter of understanding what sikhi is and people are making u their own sikhi instead of understanding from sri guru granth sahib and as for the so called sikhs who think with swords and gun look into it a bit more and you see
@IIKSII1 how do you expect it will change then? by making more gurdwaras? dude people around the world cant tell the difference between a sikh and a muslim, sikhs wearing truban in USA are looked upon as a terrorist, what have our religious places done to tell the world who we are? with the budget that gurdwaras in north america have today, hell we can sponser an ad on CNN, but we are too busy crying about khalistan, come on man dont be a sheep, our sikh dharm has problems that needs fixing.
@canuck1980 and whose fault is that if a skin head doesnt want to educate himself? sikhs have been living in places such as the uk us and canada for over a century a lot of people know the sikhs through the 2 world wars. so why go to these gurdwarehs? we walk in them while questioning the reason for a new one opening.. these people who are crying about khalistan are using it for their own means to gain profit
@IIKSII1 are you kidding? just not only the skinheads ask any educated gora as well i bet you he/she can't tell the diffrence, my friend, you have to admit we are failing as a nation, and calling out hindus or Indian govt isn't going to solve shit, yaar apnay te terrorist da label kado laggia tell me? right after sikhs blew up the air india plane, right after bhindrawala came along, until then we were a repected nation, so what excatly has the khalistani soch achieved so far? tell me?
@canuck1980 gandhi and nehru turned their backs on sikhs once independance was a achieed sikhs were called terrorists long before 84 air india happened in '85 and bhindranwala wasnt around anymore nor did those guys have any links to sant ji... and what about the people who hijacked a plane in the 70's in protest of indiras arrest and were rewarded by hvaing government positions after indira changed the constitution?
@IIKSII1 no because we had 'gaddars' in our nation at that time, master tara singh and fateh singh made their own parties, sikhs haven't been one since then. how do you expect anyone else to help.
@canuck1980 true but no one bothered to listen ghadar party... the party that was uniting not just sikhs but people of all faiths... sikhs were together once after and that was in '86 when the panth had the sarbat khalsa just type in sarbat khallsa and watch some of the videos that are put one and tell me if sikhs werent united. and plase do answer about indira
@IIKSII1 lisetn i'm not denying the fact there's issues with Indian Govt against the sikhs all i'm saying is that sikhs dont help their own cause, i can bet you if we did peaceful protest and kept the media on our sides with facts i bet you in today's world we dont need to pick up guns and choose the path of violence, and as far as bhindrawala is concerned they were given 4 days warning to come out of the gurdwara he chose to stay and it was stupid to think u can go against indian army.
@canuck1980 we did do a peaceful protest in 78' and what happened... they were murdered and its not as if sant ji told sikhs to go on some rampage what he said was defend the helpless and bring justice to those who do wrong because the police weren't doing anything but raping killing and looting people for example jaswant singh khalra proved how thousands of people were killed and theres no records of them and how people were killed in fake encounters those same people killed him as well
@IIKSII1 bhindrawala called out and sikh we are gonna kill hindus dont you remember when hindu were being singled out of the buses and shot rigth in front of everyone, were they not innocent? i know about encounters but there's always other side of the story ALWAYS
@canuck1980 lol and today everyone knows that those "sikhs" were the kaleh kaches who were cops dressing up like singhs calling themselves men of bhindranwala.. thats the other side of the story thats why bhindranwala helped hindus on many occasions, for example a hindu girl who was kidnapped and a hindu woman who has being harassed by her in-laws to get money from her parents who were poor
@IIKSII1 thats some of it, but the general consensus doesnt change what other people or the rest of the world thought about sikhs when they blew up air India, how's that suppose to make us look like a peaceful nation? and when u pick up guns in the name of justice thats the results you face, u can tell khalistani achievements what about the hindus that allowed sikhs in their houese during 84 riots? like i said there's always the other side of the coin, and sikhs have hard time admitting that.
@canuck1980 so just because people thought wrong of us it our fault.. 60 minutes came and had an interview with bhindranwala they wanted to show his house why? because they thought he'd be living in some palace but reality is they he didnt he lived in a broken down 2 room house makes sense why the didnt show that since it would go along with their story of trying to become the next khomeini.
@IIKSII1 part2.. air india was done by some fools who never understood the cause.. majority of sikhs never supported them as for picking up guns...Sri Guru Gobind Singh: "when all other means have failed it is then righteous to draw the sword" bhindranwala went to court nothing happened sirdar kapur singh proved the indian govt wrong nothing happened people were being killed weapons were taken up for defense did he go to delhi or did the govt come to amritsar?
@IIKSII1 unfortunatily bhindrawala's speeches went a long way to brain wash the youth of punjab and the trickle down effect was air India bombing you can't seperate them ... those guys still claim they are khalistanis, in front of the media .. i honestly hope sikhs can start thinking a little diffrently and maybe try to achieve some major things for the humanity, take a diffrent route than the rest of religious sheep, i use to think like you but i think we need to change our mentality.
@canuck1980 really? the speeches ive herd convey the total opposite message..unless you have links to speeches where he's promoting hatred. air india bombing: they werent youths they were in their 40's where are you going with this?anyone can claim to be anything but they can be doing the total opposite of what they claim to be
@IIKSII1 damn right look the the tone bhindrawala took against the hindus, asking eye for an eye, many examples on your right click anything, please dont justify everything single thing, do u have any idea how many guys in the 20s went under the wing of bhindrawala, and do you know how many sikhs flocked to overseas during '84, my cousin wanted to join the movement his parents begged him to leave country, he lives in california now, thank god changed his mind, there were many guys who did that.
@canuck1980 like i said before post some link: type in Sant Bhindranwale - Who Our War Is With & Youth SUBTITLED tell me where he says hes going to kill hindus and eye for an eye its all being done for sri guru granth sahib and the innocent people. if you think he's still wrong what do you expect him to do sit of to the side and beg on his knees for people no to do this? no. sri guru hargobind sahib ji and sri guru gobind singh ji taught us to take action not sit around
@IIKSII1 i dont have to post any links because most links are biased and posted by pro khalistan groups, read their channel names and you'll get the point, what about lala jagat narain murder, dont tell me he was accused of that, thats why bhindrawala hid, and realistacally he wanted to be in power and president of SGPC and he himself admitted that to P.R.O of darbar sahib, he had political intrest and he mixed religion in it, look at anna hazare today, no wepons used.
@canuck1980 cant their be things posted by people who are against him? cant their be things posted by people who are neutral? well i post videos of him speaking himself. jagat narain he was arrested but no evidence was found. sgpc president lol what were you sitting there he told the panth at anji sahib that if he ever tried to attain any political position he would deserve a beating by the panth
@IIKSII1 its a truth and a fact that bhindrawala had a hidden agenda to take over SGPC .. if he was a true sikh he should'nt have hid in the darbar sahib he was given a warning but he knew that they would be attacked then why did he stay? if he wanted he could've saved a lot of blood shed and 'be adbi' to darbar sahib.
@canuck1980 well since you "dont want to" (or maybe because there isnt any) post any links heres one for you from him his own mouth: sant bhindranwale killing it length is 3:04
@IIKSII1 there's so many biased views that its unbelieveable sikhs dont want to hear the truth, dude i can't post links on youtube other than the videos and the videos are just mind numbing biased with remixed rap music behind bhindrawala speeches if you wanna hear that again, dude bhindrwala have bluntly asked hindus to leave punjab, just because its not on youtube doesnt mean its not true
@canuck1980 1. he helped countless number of hindus. 2. he was neither for or against khalistan 3. if the government chose to give it they would take it. 3. he wished to stay within india but as equals and with a separate identity and not considered hindus... true but what about the videos of him speaking himself? its not as if im giving you some random link to some 20 year old sitting at home making random videos... there videos of his speeches
@IIKSII1 what about the fact he basically asked hindus to leave punjab and many did move to haryana or himachal why? why did many monay sikh started wearing turbans and when the movement was over they cut their... because they were scared for their lives, singhs would show up in the middle of the night at any random house to harras people to cook for 10-15, dont tell me that didnt happen, dude movement got the regular people by the balls they were stuck in the middle, people were sick of it.
@IIKSII1 can't you hear what he's saying you are only hearing what you want to hear, he's bascially asking for violence 'jatka ke aaia karo mere kol' is that really necessary? dude killing each other those days are gone there's many ways to deal with situations like what he was saying why stoop to the same level of the idiots ..rise above it, isnt that a sikh way?
@canuck1980 what should i be hearing.. please do explain. im not saying violence is the answer but what are you supposed to when the courts dont do anything about seeking justice for the innocent, when people have become above the law?
@IIKSII1 ya and? what does that even mean? ofcourse there are other people who wrote the other side of the story as well ... you are just reading what you want to read ... trust me i've read these guy's info as well
@canuck1980 ive read and watched things from both sides and based on that i made my decision. yea if have read their works you wouldnt of had said and i quote: "the things that they were putting in that resolution was absolutely stupid, how can they claim ti baptize sikhs on a mass sacle me being a sikh, i'd like to have a choice weather me or my kids should be baptized and they were trying to have school teachers and kids baptized"
@IIKSII1 well i stand by statement i'm gonna let my kids decide weather they want to be baptized or not ..i'm not gonna tell them to do paath or wear a kirpan even if they didnt exactly know what it means, if they decide when they grow up to amrit shak so be it, the problem with most sikhs is that they pretty much tell their kids to do what they did, you only live once and life is precious, being a good person is more important than being extremly relegious.
@IIKSII1 ofcourse you have to stand by your actions ...khalistanis picked up guns and you have to be prepared to be called a terrosit, al queda is prolly thinking they are martyrs as well, but look what the world is calling them ...this is how it works and u are a minority making bold statements thats even worse ... sorry to burst your bubble its the way life is.
@canuck1980 al queda is something totally different and something complex...provide some examples of incidents of "khalistani" attacks and not just saying some random shooting.
@IIKSII1 given the fact we are such a low population religion but since 84 we've been in headlines known as terrorist, khalistani acts have been known around the world, imagine if we were the size of al queda and with the same 'garam' thinkning turst me sikhs are totally emotional it could've been far worse, the shootings weren't random that was way more than what we needed in punjab, so just because more than 300 people weren't killed, just random individual shooting its not a crime?
@canuck1980 the taliban is something different they were funded and given arms to by the americans because the americans were trying to control the middle east al queda came out of taliban osama was the son of the richest man in saudi arabia who was a family member of the king. sant jarnail singh was tanding up for the death of the innocent and the anandpur sahib resolution, nor was i he some rich man with some palace.
@IIKSII1 if bhindrwala wasnt rich then where did the weapons and artillery come from? in the gurdwara, you know damn right the budget of darbar sahib, go read the ISI website so many khalistani groups are black listed along with other radical gropus in India ... theres always radiacals in every religion and we got pro khalistan and bhindrawala type, he did nothing but hurt the reputation of sikhs around the world, i'll never agree with what bhindrawala did EVER!
@canuck1980 common sense people throughout india keep weapons...haha budget of darbar sahib what hes the accountant now too.. sgpc would never let him touch the money.... show some links where he talks about the wrong hes done or someone showing that
@IIKSII1 yea sure common sense people also carry hand grenades and rocket launchers, so where did he get the money to buy the weapons from pakistan since he wasn't a rich person, i know a lot of money went from abroad but dont tell me the guys didn't use SGPC as a resource.
@canuck1980 they didnt now 12 barrel guns rifles are basic things that dont need a lot of money now on the internet you can see pictures of singhs holding pistols rifles and 12 barrels. then why arent there any of them with grenades and rocket launchers? SGPC was never with bhindranwala they and the akalis only showed up at rally's for votes. if the akalis and sgpc were with him they wouldnt of had been involved in the murder of bhai surinder singh sodhi
(MESSAGE FOR THE CREATOR OF THIS RIDICULOUS VIDEO) I think you must be dead after updating this type of SAD thought of yours in the public media.. If you are'nt then somebody will find u and do it for PEACE (yours and all) U know 1 thing....only a SON OF A BITCH can write things like these because he is dis-appointed of his own life...looser..and little info is always dangerous...baaki eh padhe likhe bandian dian gallan ne, tainu kithe samaj aonian ne..
NanraRicky 5 days ago
Jarnail Singh was the only one who thought advance and great... SHAME ON U stupid HYPOCRITE, IDOL WORSHIPERS
pavidaroli 1 month ago
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@pavidaroli
FUCK YOU. You're not even good enough to be the shit of the revered Sikh Gurus.
Anotherkashmiri 2 weeks ago
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Fuck off you Donkey. You are not even good enough to be the SHIT of the highly respected Gurus. Try comparing your stupid thoughts(Donkey) with that of Guru Tegh Bahadur (a true Singh)
Anotherkashmiri 2 weeks ago
Gaddha kya jaahne SHER di dhaad nu..!!
pavidaroli 1 month ago
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TopmanD1PZ 1 month ago
Bhindrawale as a real lion, real sant, real soldier ever walked on earth.
SinghSandeep1987 1 month ago
Saint Jurnail singh ji de fateh, Khalistan Zindabaad
zomizaman 1 month ago
The uploader's write-up sounds like that written by a teenager....lol. My advice to him: Grow back your Kesh, stop getting drunk, forget Bhindranwale (scary looking fanatical nut), UNDERSTAND the words and actions of your great Gurus (such as Guru Tegh Bahadurji), emulate your Gurus as much as possible, finish atleast High School....and finally take Amrit. Congrats, now you are a true Singh:)
Anotherkashmiri 1 month ago
does anybody know "separation of powers" no prime minister can order the army to act. Fuuccck Indra. Army Soldiers are swear to constitution of nation. not to a misguide cunt Bhandrawala. Army soldiers die for dignity of their country but nobody remember them. Those sikhs army soldiers died clearing the Cunt Bhandrawala gang must be respect. Please stop this religious conflict. only outsider benefits.. This video is made by Pakistani..
hellogibraltarhello 1 month ago
Long Live Khalistan If he come back he will rule it again..
flyinwaves1 1 month ago
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most hindus and westerners in india-abroad are not aware that some sikhs are secretly allies with muslims and demonize hindus (e.g. bhindranwale) but still a great majority Sikhs are gems. But some sikhs have stooped so low that they turn a blind eye or write just a few words about muslim atrocities against hindus,sikhs etc. Bangladesh genocide in which half millions hindus were killed which these half muslim Sikhs rarely talk about but same sikh will write pages about 2002 riots, dalits etc.
bagpiperinuk 1 month ago
i don't care about any other sant baba bull shit because they are all fake i only bow down to SGGS and not even my mother but baba bhindrawala i love him so much hes my role model you are alive in my heart
Amardeep661 1 month ago
@Amardeep661
Good for you matey....as long as you do not become a traitor like him!
Tonyr00 1 month ago
@Tonyr00
Listen to me I m telling you to leave this bullshitt talks people are only fans of sant jarnail singh bhindranwale he is our hero he died for sake of sikhism whether you like it or not media is all bullshit and speak crap against him but we dont care people know reality of him Its our personal opinion I think you are not Punjabi born come and see reality of "84" then you will know what are true facts
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
We love our Sikh brothers,at the end we are 1......
Fuck you GAY HIND,Bloody coward nation,Bloody Hindus fuck you all.
Bandesha161 1 month ago
@Bandesha161
You will not say this at Delhi Airport for talking fucking crap....
Tonyr00 1 month ago
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@Bandesha161
Some body will fuck you as well.....
Tonyr00 1 month ago
very good
versatiledavinder 2 months ago
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Guru Gobind was a Pimp he sold his wife sisters and daughters fudis to invading army MusIim Soldiers of Afzal Khan who pounded, jackhammerd banged thrust and wolloped Sikh fudis with their huge lslamic cocks and squirted islamic cock juice in sikh fudus and sikh womne get multiple orgazms and Guruji make money like Sikh PIMP. This is why all sikh&hindu women are whores.PAKlSTAN ZlNDABAD!
KashmirisoIdier1 2 months ago
Tough traits with great rigor Bhindrawale…..
mo7senses 2 months ago
jathebandi bahut tagdi banani hai haje teeeeeeeee
babbarkhalsa1force 2 months ago
@babbarkhalsa1force
Another gadha...
Tonyr00 1 month ago
@Tonyr00
Gadhe u want 2 see look at urself in mirror we see daily Gadhe"s like you worshipping dicks known as your shiva Linga,Worshipping Nude Naga Sadhus,Worshipping animals like bitches,Cows,Elephants,Mouse ETC and even drinking Cow"s Piss that you people consider sacred Tourists come and laugh at your stupid cultures and respect ours and even become Sikhs where low castes r thrown from Hindu temples beggars come 2 our Gurdwara where equality is their to have some food go n fuck cows pussy
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
@SinghMankaran
You are such a dumbass man....you have no knowledge of modern hindu religion....I am an educated sikh with combined hindu and sikh family...it is a blessing. Whatever you have written is total crap as you have no knowledge of anything....have you ever been to India or are you a US juttoooo....shame on you for being a sikh!!
Tonyr00 1 month ago
@SinghMankaran
People like are disgrace to Sikism and India - our nation!! Jai Khalsa and Jai Hindustan
Tonyr00 1 month ago
@Tonyr00
learn to spell first you bloody faggot don't know proper English atleast you said jai khalsa for Khalsa only we have died for right only we have died and you so called India is also their coz of our sacrifices where was map of india b4 47 we could have our independent nation Khalistan and get away from you peop
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
@SinghMankaran veer this tonyr is afucking Hindu who is posting shit against sikhs.
NALWA 1 month ago
@NALWA
yaah dude I know ppl like them cant call themselves Sikhs who bow their heads to Gandhi"s they are gandhi Chamcha"s for sure or they dont know the fact what happened they are blinds
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
@SinghMankaran
Master Tara Singh was our respected leader and never wanted anystaan....sikhs have the autonomy since 1967 when Punjab was divided on the basis of language, ordinary and good sikhs have decent jobs and pretty happy living within a secure India..Jai Bharat. Only Khalistaan movement is outside India and all foreign governments do nto acknowledge any Istaan outside India; why are you worried about what Hindus do or don't do in their religion..grow up as a decent sikh.
Tonyr00 1 month ago
@SinghMankaran
You make me laugh as you are just a hyped up little bachha sikh boy!
Read the pavitter guru's baani and become a decent human being and not a fucking nutcase...
Tonyr00 1 month ago
@Tonyr00
you call urself a sikh u might have cut your hair goin 4 drugs etc bhindranwale went from village to village telling youth to leave drugs,not to cut hair,recieve baptism and you tell me about sikhism have you ever read gurbani you cunt
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
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SinghMankaran 1 month ago
@Tonyr00 ohk i will tell you the whole history my son
Why people demanded Khalistan why ppl pick up guns?? only and only govt was responsible b4 84 they torture sikhs,turbans were removed The bitch indira gandhi protected fake nirankari bustad leader gurbachan singh,police tortured and raped b4 84 only then sikhs said why they r living in such slavery that v could have our natin b4 47 only why di'nt v take it that time when sikhs killed guilty why they r terrorists?? they are our heroes got dat
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
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he will come back....
IBainsI 2 months ago
@bapuji00 lol
bapuji011 2 months ago
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DUNIYA CH JINNEY BHI KHALISTANI, JITHEY BHI BASDE NE ,
SAAREYAN DI MAA DA MAAREYA KOOSA.
GOLIAANN BAJJAN GIYAN TUHADI BUNDA CH, FUDUON TAL TAL TAL.....
BADI KHAP PAA KE RAKHI HOI HAI ......LODI DE
BLOODY COWARD BASTARDS..............LOL HA HA HA
IK PYO DI AULAD HAI TAN COMMENT ZAROOR PUBLISH KARIN ......PHUDUAAAA
divkd 2 months ago
and in 1984 this how you hindus replied killing over 100,000 sikhs knowing that indra ghandi attacked the most holy place for all the sikhs
sant jarnail singh was the bravest man the world has ever had he wasent a coward. he leaded the all the sikh and fought against the indian army he kinew there is a very small chance of defeating them but he still had the guts to fight and sacrifice himself to save darbar sahib
AllTheWayMohan 3 months ago
@AllTheWayMohan
You misguided idiot...he did not defend Darbar sahib...he was a traitor and instigator....he did not even ask for Khalistan.....he was a stirrer!!
Tonyr00 2 months ago
@Tonyr00 Traitor of whom ur Bharat Mata ? Who will defend Sikhi is a traitor of India so fuck GAY HIND
NALWA 2 months ago
@AllTheWayMohan
You are so stupid man...talking from your backside....you do not have any idea of facts...."He sacrificed himself to save darbar sahib"...what a fuckign crap you are talking you gadha!!
Our Darbar Sahib was never in danger.....Bhindranwale occupied Akaal Takht - a different building and bypassed adn refuted all the elected sikh leaders and Prabandhak Committe of Harmandir Sahib...and took the path of violence and destruction....
Tonyr00 1 month ago
@AllTheWayMohan
I was in Punjab at the time of these events and you show me and prove that 100,000 sikhs were killed.....you have no proof you idiot.....it was no where near to or anything like what you say from your farting bum....just a gadha!!
Tonyr00 1 month ago
@AllTheWayMohan "he still had the guts to fight and sacrifice himself to save darbar sahib"...erm you really need to read up...he took over the darbar sahib and took in guns and like a coward used the real sikhs who were there to worship as hostages. The Indian army attacked the darbar sahib after he went in. Im not saying they were right. But he decides to go into the darbar sahib like he owns the place.
udey86 1 month ago
@AllTheWayMohan- WRONG. Bandarwale hid in Akal Takht because he never foresaw the indian army attacking him there. He also thought that even if they did attack him, he wanted to cause as much collateral damage to the place as possible so that the gov't would loose all credibility with sikhs and more sikhs would support his NUTSO ideas of Khalistan. This scary fanatic was just that...a Thug, NOT a Singh. He bullied and exterminated all who disagreed with him..The Gurus would beat his pathetic ass
Anotherkashmiri 1 month ago 4
@Anotherkashmiri
Bro v dont give damn to anyone of what others say its your personal thinking abt sant jarnail singh keep it wid urself this is democratic country its our matter of whom v consider our martyr or not we dont mind its ur thinking Bhindranwale was against those who ruined Sikhism and all dese dera baba"s etc but what happened after 1984 we can never forget putting tyres in front of family thousand of ppl attacking sikh cowardly how can any1 forget that
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
@SinghMankaran
1984 was DISGUSTING and I think that Sikhs shud let these Hindus know abt what happened. It is very sad that most Hindus are unaware (just like they are unaware abt sufferings of us Kashmiri Pundits). Re: Bhindranwale, He was no Sant. He was narrowminded and bullied and killed anyone who did not agree with him, not to mention that he hid in Akal Takht knowing very well that there was a chance that it wud get destroyed- SHAMEFUL...Gurus NEVER forced others to follow Sikhi
Anotherkashmiri 1 month ago 7
@Anotherkashmiri
See Broder everyone has some postive and negative Roles Indira gandhi was not a Durga whom you people call She was the most corrupt lady although she touched bhindranwale only and only reponsible for 84 was nehru gandhi parivaar
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
@SinghMankaran I never refer to her as "Durga" cause durga ain't corrupt! Indira was one of the first corrupt and totalitarian leaders of india (a disgrace to us Kashmiris)...BUT, there are huge similarities between her and her arch nemesis(Bandarwale). Both:
1) were strong minded/hard headed
2) neither was willing to compromise
3) Both knew that they were going to die in this fiasco
4) BUT, Bandarwale hid in Akal Takht- BAD. Indira kept her Sikh guards knowing that she wud die...She Wins for me
Anotherkashmiri 1 month ago
@Anotherkashmiri What proof do u have other then what Hindus write he hid there?
9089ish 1 week ago
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@9089ish
COMMON SENSE
Anotherkashmiri 1 week ago
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SinghMankaran 1 month ago
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@Anotherkashmiri
This is total crap that bhindranwale killed Hindus in buses this above guy talking and saying in golden temple some kinda dirty things happen This is total Bukvaas was he present that time the guy who is talking crap yaah I know many Innocent hindus were killed but it was not bhindranwale role they were govt men who killed Hindus and Sikhs in buses SOme sikhs fought for right cause some for bad but were those ppl bathed from Milk who put tyres on our Sikh bro
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
@Anotherkashmiri Who did he force to follow sikhi? And to that statement that he was hiding in the akal thakt. Also give me an example of a person he killed for not agreeing with him. He wasn't hiding. He made it clear that he was there. His simple goal was freedom. So i encourage you to learn more about the topic what started it and why it ended that way before you start throwing out statements like.
Indyniner90 4 days ago
@Indyniner90
I have learned enough to know that it is outrageous for a "freedom fighter" to hide at a sacred site, knowing very well that there were pilgrims there and he was staking their well being in the process, not to mention that he shoudln't have been there to begin with! For all his big talk, he hid behind pilgrims at the Temple because he thought that the army would never attack him there. Disgusting lack of judgement on his part (though I am against the attack on the temple as well)
Anotherkashmiri 3 days ago
@Anotherkashmiri bro we live like lions we die like lions either we will get our right or we die fighting for our rights india promised us so many things after independanve ananpur sahib resolution but after independance we became a threat n terrorists asking for the rights we were pomised 70 of 100 were sikhs who died for india and they backstabbed us saying wo sama aur tha ab sama aur hai. When india refused to give us our rights we had to die fighting Bhindranwale woke up the sleeping kaum
84WAKEUP 42 minutes ago
@Anotherkashmiri Punjab was made into an army camp literally why and why was 42 other gurudware also attacked and now this year when we ask for construction of out gurudwara Guru nANAK DEV JIS WE R PUT behind bars i am talking about the year 2012. it was to kill the self to right determination of sikh n kill the movement why were amritdhari sikhs targetted and bodies no longer found. when jaswant singh khalra found out corpses dad bodies of sikh in hindu temples even he was abducted n killed ?
84WAKEUP 39 minutes ago
@Anotherkashmiri in idnia we r hindus under the indian constitution so we r not sikhs but hindus shame on india but in pak we r categorised as sikh even a sepearaste sikh marrige act
84WAKEUP 46 minutes ago
@Anotherkashmiri
and dont include our Guru"s in these kind of discussions
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
@Anotherkashmiri Sant bhindranwale always supported the truth and followed the teachings of sikhi. when he was in punjab the alcohol and drug rate dropped n he preached people to follow on the right path, he never perched bad things about any religion, look in his videos he said a proper muslim should be proper muslim a hindu should be a proper hindu n sikh should be proper sikh. he was the front face of the sikh uprise against indian government (police) who discriminated sikhs and raped women
TopmanD1PZ 1 month ago 10
@TopmanD1PZ
I don't know why you removed your previous comment..LOL. Btw, I agree with your "removed" comment- that Sikhism has defended rights of others(like Guru Tegh Bahadur saved us Pundits in Kashmir). My previous reply was to another comment u had made which actually implied the OPPOSITE of what u NOW seem to imply..lol. Regarding ur view that Hindu/sikh must follow their religion...Neither u nor I are God himself and therefore we cannot force others to follow their religion a certain way
Anotherkashmiri 1 month ago 2
and too all the hindus out here disrespecting this great man here yo'll probably dont know but its cause of sikhism your religion is still known if our 9th guru
siri guru teg bahadur ji didn't sacrifice his life for hindus your religion would have been rubbed of this world
AllTheWayMohan 3 months ago
but yoll still dont get it we live in a multicultural society now we are not suppose to fight like savages what indra Gandhi did was totally wrong and i can totally understand how most of the sikhs feel cause my own granddad died in saving darbar sahib. but that doesn't mean we should blame all the hindus on earth cause of that incident
AllTheWayMohan 3 months ago
waheguru waheguru waheguru yo"ll are fighting here insulting each-others religions someone mocking hindus someone mocking sikhs etc ..........
AllTheWayMohan 3 months ago
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uthooo Sikhooo, hun 1984 da badla lain da time aa gaya...hun her sikh Jarnail singh ban jaye tay lay lo ja k Khalistan....
mour66 3 months ago
hellogibraltarhello keda a apni bhain da yr sala......bhenchoda apni budi nu puch kinia kolo chudai a ohne fer bhinderawalea nu galt bolli penchoda
MrKanwar007 3 months ago
he was a terrorist! he killed hindus first and then the action was taken ! improve your history guyss!!!
abhi07ist 4 months ago
@abhi07ist if he was a terrorist than im a terrorist too. sleep with your eyes open.
meet0me0at0the0rim 4 months ago
@abhi07ist bro is you dont have any first hand info dont talk shit about this great man. May be a terrorist to you but for me he was a fearless lion who roared for the rights of Sikhs and punjab, he had strong basis for his arguments. Do some unbiased research before calling him a terrorist.
manjiitgill 3 months ago
@abhi07ist You seem to forget that he paid for hindu girls marraiges. He never killed hindu's first. What you cant explain is why over 300 Gurdwaras were attcked during operation blue star. the indian government knew exactly where he was so why are over 250,000 sikhs missing?? Why were the media blocked from seeing what was happening? It makes you wonder what Indira Gandhi had to hide
dcfcdcfc1 2 months ago
@abhi07ist
Any proof that he killed Hindus????? what rubbish,crap are you speaking about him Tell me any proof against him that he killed Hindus in buses Bullshit
Shitttt man how can you put false claims on such a highly saint person it happens in your Hinduism mainly not in our Sikhism so stop it
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
like your fiucking baba ranjit singh dahriawala
hellogibraltarhello 4 months ago
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@hellogibraltarhello
Do you want a punch in your face?
gillws999 4 months ago
@hellogibraltarhello he was a real fightera true saint soldiers not like 99% of sikhs who just live a lifeearning waelth n sittingdoown with family he took to the masses ad woke em up from deep sleep
84WAKEUP 4 months ago
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hellogibraltarhello 2 months ago
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@84WAKEUP you fucking paki shut the fuck up
hellogibraltarhello 2 months ago
bhindrawale di ma di fuddi... Mhaje de jatt died.. nobody remember.. he is kutta pushing agenda of badal... to come to power... baba avtar singh brahma
baba gurcharan singh manochahal and endless mhaje de jatt worrior died.. nobody remember... bhindrawala kuta matar chod.. living in china now... nobody care..... badal maybe protecting... notice why kill longowal because bhindrawale is cunt
hellogibraltarhello 4 months ago
@hellogibraltarhello
Kuttia sharm kar!! Santan di nindya krn valiya tere mooh vich kute da gooh!!
gillws999 4 months ago
@1212qaqa o kanjara kutya kujj sahram karr teri ma ta vaddi gasti honi aa uh ta pata lagg hi gaya tu ta apni jaat app hi show karr diti dae gurua ne ta tuhanu barabari da darja dita si parr kute nu kheer hajam nahi hundi teri ma kutti aa jihne tere warga kkutta jamya net ta bakwaas karnai bahut saukhi aa jadd teri ma nu lai jande si chak k ta sant g hi chuda k launde si kanjari di aulaad sala.
sssssdeep1 4 months ago
ਜੱਟਾਂ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਭਿਡ੍ਰ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਲੀ ਕਹਿੰਦੀ ਹੈ ਸਾਨੂ ਸਾਡੇ ਹਕ ਨਹੀ ਮਿਲਦੇ ਇਸ ਕੁੱਤੇ ਨੂ ਕੋਈ
ਪੁਛਦਾ ਕੇ ਸਾਰੇ ਜੱਟ ਚੁੜੇ ਚਮਾਰਾਂ ਦੇ ਨਾਵ ਤੇ ਨੋਕਰੀਆਂ ਕਰਦੇ ਹੈ ਓਹ ਕਿਸਦਾ ਹਕ ਖਾਂਦੇ
ਹੈ ਰਜਿਸਟਰ ਚਕ ਕੇ ਦੇਖੋ ਜੱਟ ਤਾਂ ਸਿਰਫ ਨਾਵ ਦੇ ਹੀ ਰਜਿਸਟਰ ਵਿਚ ਤਾਂ ਸਾਰੇ ਚੁੜੇ ਚਮਾਰ
ਬਣ ਕੇ ਬੇਠੇ ਹੈ ਇਕ ਭਿੰਡ੍ਰ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਲਾਂ ਨਾ ਜਮਦਾ ਤਾ ਸਾਡੇ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਨੂ ਕਦੇ ਅੱਗ ਨਾ ਲਗਦੀ ਦੂਸਰਾ
ਗੁਰੂ ਘਰ ਵਿਚ ਨਾ ਲੁਕਦਾ ਆਪਨੇ ਘਰ ਜਾਂ ਹੋਰ ਜਿਥੇ ਮਰਜੀ ਬੇਠ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਕੁੱਤੇ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਘਰ ਨੂ
ਸਹੀਦ ਕਰਾ ਦਿਤਾ ਘੁਰੁ ਘਰ ਦੇ ਪੈਸੇ ਨਾਲ ਅਸਲਾ ਖ਼ਰੀਦ ਦਾ ਸੀ ਸ਼ਰਮ ਨਹੀ ਆਉਂਦੀ ਸੀ ਕੁੱਤੇ ਨੂ
121212qaqa 4 months ago
Long live the memory and fighting traditions of great Sikhs like Sant Bhindranwale. These lions of Sikhism fear no corrupt terrorist governments and only bow down to the true government and leader of every Sikh on this earth....our Sri Guru Granth Sahib Sahib Ji
romeosinghx 4 months ago
ਜੱਟਾਂ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਭਿੰਡ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਲੇ ਨੂ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਹੋ ਓ ਸਾਲਾ ਕਿਧਰੋ ਸਹੀਦ ਹੈ
ਓ ਤਾਂ ਸਾਲਾ ਅੰਦਰ ਲੁਕ ਕੇ ਬੇਠਾ ਸੀ ਜੇ ਓਸ ਨੇ ਸਹੀਦ ਕਹਾਉਣ ਸੀ ਤਾਂ ਬਾਹਰ
ਆ ਹਿਕ ਵਿਚ ਗੋਲੀਆਂ ਖਾਂਦਾ ਬੁੰਡ ਵਿਚ ਗੋਲੀਆਂ ਨਾ ਖਾਂਦਾ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਕੁਛ ਸਰਮ ਕਰੋ
ਜੋ ਪਹਿਲਾ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਹੋਏ ਹੈ ਓਹਨਾ ਨੂ ਵੀ ਬਦਨਾਮ ਕਰਨ ਲਾਗੇ ਹੈ ਭਿਡ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਲਾ ਤਾਂ
ਕੁੱਤੇ ਦੀ ਮੋਤ ਮਰਿਆਂ ਸੀ ਓ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਨਹੀ ਸੀ ਓ ਤਾਂ ਹਰਾਮਦਾ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਨੂ ਅੱਗ ਲਾ
ਗੀਆਂ ਸਚਾਈ ਦਾ ਸਾਮਣਾ ਕਰੋ ਚੂਠ ਦਾ ਸਹਾਰਾ ਲੇਣਾ ਛੇੱਡ ਦੇਵੋ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਨੂ ਸਚਾਈ ਦੱਸੋ
ਸਾਰੀ ਉਮਰ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਚੁੜੇ ਚਮਾਰ ਬਣ ਕੇ ਨੋਕਰੀ ਕਰਦੇ ਰਹੇ ਹੋ ਤੇ ਗੱਲਾਂ ਹਕ ਦੀਆਂ ਕਰਦੇ ਹੈ
jattidibund1 4 months ago
Shut up bhindranwale haterzz u worship gandhi n v r bhindranwale supporters coz he fought for sikh right
SinghMankaran 5 months ago 2
@SinghMankaran you are misguided by ISI.
hellogibraltarhello 2 months ago
@hellogibraltarhello
ok ok You be with your Indira Sant jarnail singh bhindranwale was martyr for us and will remain the diamond of sikh community
SinghMankaran 2 months ago
@SinghMankaran
Fuck off you idiot
Tonyr00 1 month ago
@Tonyr00
Fuck off you Dumbass beggar
SinghMankaran 1 month ago
@SinghMankaran You numbnut- Understand the difference between:
1)The Khalsa- a remarkable force as created by Guru Gobind Singhji and...2) Khalistan- a totalitarian intolerant shithole created by a scary looking Fanatic with next to NO understanding of Sikhi or the teachings/actions of the Gurus. Now, finish high school, grow back your Kesh, Give up alcohol, stop chasing girls, listen attentively to the teachings explained in Kirtan, get Amrit...Congrats, now you are a Real Sikh!
Anotherkashmiri 1 month ago
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manuj87sharma 5 months ago
mere uncle corporation vich c ona koll 84 roits de sikh de inquiry aye c. jad inquiry kite ta 30 wich 27 bande eda de c jina de ghar 2,4 AC lage hoye c.. kun ke jinda da naam list wich c o kise na kise tara kise neeta nu jande c. ya jo 2-2 war muafja lai chuke ne. jo asli hakdar ne ona nu ta sirf votta wele rally wich ya dharne wich use kita janda. sab khan nu baithe ne. ya loka ne bharkon lai.
MrDj3600 5 months ago
Main v Punjabi han par, 90 percent Punjabi bhai mund akal de sikar ne for example:-
1). They go to other countries and work as cleaners and then sing songs sari duniya vich soniye Punjabiyan nu kon ni jandha. Reality is Punjabiyan ne saariyan de kapde doye ne is layi saare jande ne.
2). Punjabiyan ne baande bahut marre ne aaj tak. Have Punjabi made car, mobile, electricity, tv, motorcycle, engines, tractors, Reality is white men made all these things. We sadly do not have brain.
fourclours 5 months ago
@fourclours punjabi are to be honest a 'fukra' kaum bas uchi uchi ganay ga sakday aa te larr sakday ...ehna de gittia vich akal aa, you are abosolutely right, I'm a punjabi and sadly if i was given a choice i wouldnt want to be born in this brain dead culture and my heart bleeds while i'm saying this.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 Do not worry bhaji we are the new generation of Desh Punjab. I myself 25 years old Jatt Sikh. We will make Punjab a land of hope not poverty, Equality not sardari, Prosperity not poverty, Peace not violence, Law and order not anarchy. Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. And time of Punjab has come. God bless United states of Punjab. ;)
fourclours 5 months ago
@fourclours who are you planning to vote for in feburary? God bless Punjab.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@fourclours jatt sikh? clearly u dont know sikhi... a sikh is just a sikh it this im a jatt your a chamar crap thats ruining our religion
IIKSII1 5 months ago
Punjab before English came 1850.
1). No electricity, no cars, no schools, no courts, no police, no elections.
2). Those who are more powerful, brutal rules. No law and order.
3). Most of the land is owned by self styled kings and people work only as labrourers.
4). No railways. WE WERE LIVING LIKE JANGALI BANDE OR TRIBE. Simple reasons people of Punajb are moti akal de malak.
Punjab 2011:-
1). 70 percent people are rull rehe in hor countries and they sing songs such a
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fourclours 5 months ago
@fourclours 1. british in the mid 1600s under the banner of the east india trading company 2.electricity came around 1880's, cars werent invented then, if there were no schools then how did people learn to read and write?, what do you call the maharajas army? no elections because there was a king the british had a queen 3. there was only 1 kin and under him were landlords in different regions 4. have you ever herd of the industrial revolution it happened in the late 1800s
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 Bhaji do not go into detail matlab samjho. We go to austarlia, america, uk, canada, dubai, qatar, bahrain, new zealand, italy, france, TO GET BEATEN BY WHITE MEN. Do they come to Punjab.
fourclours 5 months ago
where's khalistan? you fucking dumbasses got people killed for no reason? sikho tusi khalistan taan mangg rahe ho parr, do you even have any resources? you'll be a sorry state in the world, many sikhs in the world dont want khalistan in the first place, tusi salyeo theka liya hoya sabb da, pehla salyeo ek ta ho jao, thono gurdware banuan tau bina horr kujj aunda vi aa? sikha ne ki ditta dunya nu? people are inventing medicines and going to moon, sikha ne ki kita?
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 ek doojay dia gurdwaya vich pagga lahai, sharam karo kujj sale hoye aa khalistan de
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 Khalistan will be established it really is that simple Sikhs recite in unison the litany, Raj Karega Khalsa. Punjab has more then enough resources Punjab is the country's buffer against starvation I would love to see how long Hindu majority neghbouring states will last without Punjabs river water. Khalistan will be fine while India is sending Hindus to the moon forgetting more then 1/3 of the entire worlds poor is within India with a out of control growing population.
EliteEstablishment 5 months ago
@EliteEstablishment so your plan is to somehow stop the punjab rivers flow from going to India? and what waters are you talking about most of the water in Punjab is poisonous due to the type of crops people keep growing (again being a typical sheep), Punjab's rescources were there about 20 years back when we were the #1 state, now we are one of the worse Khalistan is a pipe dream be realistic.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 The fact is 5 to 6 million Sikhs outside Punjab are more powerful then more of 2/3 of the whole of Hindustan. You yourself admitted the fact now we are one of the worse states with so many problems in Punjab a civil war is bound to take place. Punjab or Kashmir will break free it will paralyze northern India no problem a chain reaction with other states breaking free. India will last no longer then the british raj.
EliteEstablishment 5 months ago
@EliteEstablishment dont count all 5-6 mil outside of Punjab that are pro khalistan, atleast you can count me out, civil war was created by who? dont tell me only India, its was bhindrawalas speeches that brain washed the youth, te buses vicho innocent hindu kad maarnay kitho da insaaf aa, kehray guru ne eda keha, yes i know there were 1984 riots but sikhs went around killing hindus to start with, dont blame India or hindus for everything, sikhs have to take some of the blame for starting shit .
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 Sikhs went around killing Hindus first LMAO even your corrupt Indian government has never fabricated any such evidence of mass killings of Hindus by Sikhs for faith give me just example during the 80s and 90s of a single Hindu temple or Hindu scripture being damaged in anyway by a so-called Sikh terrorist but on the contrary we all know what Hindus have done to Sikhs Muslims Christians I can provide you with dates locations etc you can only give me Hindu media reports based on myths
EliteEstablishment 5 months ago
@canuck1980 Khalistan is a pipe dream be realistic. RE ok so lets be realistic what has Sikhs within Punjab accomplished in Punjab for Punjab since 1947 with the Hindu Government the answer is nothing. Sikhs succeeded only before 1947 and today outside Hindustan ask yourself where is the problem and what is that problem? Lets be realistic the majority of Hindustan just want to put faith in a flying monkey and carry on claiming super power with more problems then any other nation including afica.
EliteEstablishment 5 months ago
@EliteEstablishment oh my god are you serious? what was excatly the achievements of sikhs before 1947? no one was asking for Khalistan then until fundamentlist like you and bhindrawala came along to fuck everything up, until today we aren't fully recovered from the shit you started. whats the real agenda of khalistan has anyone ever cared to explain? how will you create the govt, who will be the leader, what will be the consitituion? nothing bas bhonki chalo khalistan khalistan LOL.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 no one was asking for Khalistan then until fundamentalist like you and bhindrawala came along RE Bhindranwale never asked for Khalistan the movement took place after operation blue star So explain to me why did Hindus abandoned Punjabi in order to block the formation of a Punjabi state entire states drawn up on the lies of Hindus and going on about Khalistan did haryana and parts of Himachal also khalistan for states or was it just more Hindu bullshit?
EliteEstablishment 5 months ago
@EliteEstablishment hindus abondoned punjab people were gettin killed with their families, jado jaan te payi hundi aa udo pata lagda, its easy to say shit, when i was a kid our childhood was ruined because every second day there were khalistani asking for punjab band, we weren't allowed outside the house after 5pm, bass aahi karr sakday aa khalistani.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 hindus abondoned punjab people were gettin killed with their families LMAO THIS WAS BEFORE 1966 what khalistani terrorists are you talking about????????????????????????? please do explain to according to you Hindus lied about their mother tongue due to khalistanis yet this occurded long before 1966 can you list me the terrorist killing of that year and before please do also provide me with solid proof????????????????????
EliteEstablishment 5 months ago
oh please what you talking about? dont you remember the days when people were told to wear khalistani turbans and school uniforms were changed, eh kitho da ensaaf aa? dhakay naal sikh banao ge tusi? eda koi convert ni hunda te koi hoia vi, kinnay munday kuria ne amrit chakk lia? ajj kall no one gives a fuck about khalistan, kissay de kann te bandook rakh ke jo marzi karawa lao, tusi loka di soch na badal sakay Khalistani movement is a failure, eda hi jehrwa gholday pehro ge tusi.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 lol people was never told to wear khalistani turbans and school uniforms lmao that’s by far the biggest load of bullshit you have produced so far so what about mona who was shaheed fighting for Khalistan what about the turbaned police officers does that mean they was following the khalistani code lol the fact is Sikhs don’t force their religious beliefs on anyone unlike the Hindu government who have declared Sikhs are Hindus under article 25 of the constitution of piss drinkin India
EliteEstablishment 5 months ago
@EliteEstablishment wtf are you talking about? were you even there when this shit went down? i had to wear a priticular uniform and most schools in punjabs had to sing 'deh shiva barr moh eha' in school prayers, i went through that shit it was horrible, dont you deny the truth, i'll look up the news and post it here, schools were told to wear certain uniforms, prayers and people had to keep hair, you just have no idea do u? you just read shit in books, i was fucking there when it happened.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 i had to wear a priticular uniform and most schools in punjabs had to sing 'deh shiva barr moh eha' in school prayers,
That say was in schools long before the khalistan movement and is still in schools it’s in every state according to the state ok go ahead let’s stick to this topic then provide me with your links etc. that khalistanis enforced school children to pray etc and I will provide you with the fact over 100,000 braches of RSS doing the same challanage are you ready?
EliteEstablishment 5 months ago
@EliteEstablishment i'm not denying what the RSS is doing they are fukcing radicals as well just like Khalistanis, why do you feel sikhs have to go to extreme lenghts to get thier point across why not use the media, i wore those certain uniforms but i will provide you links
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 You just got it
why do you feel sikhs have to go to extreme lenghts to get thier point across
I asked myself the same question why are Sikh driven to the most extremes for the most basic of rights only to be labelled extremists. Why was those rights denied to Punjab but not other states language land water rules laws etc
Now I ask you the same question?
EliteEstablishment 5 months ago
@EliteEstablishment (1) sikhs especially fundamentlists are totally emotional, they have the 'ask questions later shoot first' mentality, thats what i'm trying to get at, do we have to follow the same paths?, time to think diffrently to get your point across, and trust me there's other states in India that have their fair share of issues, southerns are crying their blues too, sikhs have always hated Indian Govt., instead of bitching and accusing why not try other ways to work with govt. .....
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 ever herd of the anandpur resolution?
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 yes and i think you haven't read the resolution, it was merely a resolution the things that they were putting in that resolution was absolutely stupid, how can they claim ti baptize sikhs on a mass sacle me being a sikh, i'd like to have a choice weather me or my kids should be baptized and they were trying to have school teachers and kids baptized. WTF?
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 clearly your on crack first sant jarnail singh himself said no one cane just become amritdhari they have to choose the path themselves secondly the anandpur sahib resolution was made to show how the promises made during '47 weren't met. thing such as to have chandighar be given back to punjab, the control of the rivers back to punjab, have gurbani from harmandirsahib broadcasted to sikhs around the world to have amritsar free from meat alcohol and tobacco similar to hindu holy cities
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 part 2. and to have sikhs recognised as a separate in the constitution considered distinct and not a caste of hinduism
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 when the caste system gets out of sikh religion it self you can make any claims, first we gotta clean up our own shit before we start pointing fingers
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 sikhism has no caste people just mixed in punjabi culture with it....and who said anything about pointing fingers?
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 i agree with that but many people have no idea
canuck1980 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 what you are saying is an issue of punjab it self its really doesnt have anything to do with the sikh religion itself, sikhs are part of punjab and they shoud try make punjab better not ask for a diffrent country, that will furthar make things complicated, gurbani from amritsar was being broadcasted around the world until sukhbir badal decided to take over the media and who's father literlly owns SGPC, so who excatly do u beleive represent sikhs today? in a true way.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 who asked for a country....look into things do some research and youll see that sant jarnail singh never wanted to separate but bluestar is the reason why we want to gurbani was never broadcasted until the last couple of years ....what represents sikhs today, did yesterday and will tomorrow...sri guru granth sahib but people make their own sikhi... sgpc akali dal are b.s they are fakes they use religion as a mean to justify their views
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 gurbani was wasn't broadcasted who really cares think about it? people who are true sikhs are gonna still listen to gurbani one way or another .. there's so many resources today and still sikhi isn't going anywhere why? because Sikhs are divided on opinions like you and me, i for one dont give a shit about having khalistan i just want equal punjab, but there are sikhs who think with sword or guns, thats why i never agreed what bhindrawala did.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 sri harmandir sahib isnt just any ordinary place and if you failed to see that then thats pretty sad... rescourses today but what about 27 years ago and before that? was it that easy to go online and hear and read bani? its not a matter of khalistan its a matter of understanding what sikhi is and people are making u their own sikhi instead of understanding from sri guru granth sahib and as for the so called sikhs who think with swords and gun look into it a bit more and you see
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 how do you expect it will change then? by making more gurdwaras? dude people around the world cant tell the difference between a sikh and a muslim, sikhs wearing truban in USA are looked upon as a terrorist, what have our religious places done to tell the world who we are? with the budget that gurdwaras in north america have today, hell we can sponser an ad on CNN, but we are too busy crying about khalistan, come on man dont be a sheep, our sikh dharm has problems that needs fixing.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 and whose fault is that if a skin head doesnt want to educate himself? sikhs have been living in places such as the uk us and canada for over a century a lot of people know the sikhs through the 2 world wars. so why go to these gurdwarehs? we walk in them while questioning the reason for a new one opening.. these people who are crying about khalistan are using it for their own means to gain profit
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 are you kidding? just not only the skinheads ask any educated gora as well i bet you he/she can't tell the diffrence, my friend, you have to admit we are failing as a nation, and calling out hindus or Indian govt isn't going to solve shit, yaar apnay te terrorist da label kado laggia tell me? right after sikhs blew up the air india plane, right after bhindrawala came along, until then we were a repected nation, so what excatly has the khalistani soch achieved so far? tell me?
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 gandhi and nehru turned their backs on sikhs once independance was a achieed sikhs were called terrorists long before 84 air india happened in '85 and bhindranwala wasnt around anymore nor did those guys have any links to sant ji... and what about the people who hijacked a plane in the 70's in protest of indiras arrest and were rewarded by hvaing government positions after indira changed the constitution?
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 no because we had 'gaddars' in our nation at that time, master tara singh and fateh singh made their own parties, sikhs haven't been one since then. how do you expect anyone else to help.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 true but no one bothered to listen ghadar party... the party that was uniting not just sikhs but people of all faiths... sikhs were together once after and that was in '86 when the panth had the sarbat khalsa just type in sarbat khallsa and watch some of the videos that are put one and tell me if sikhs werent united. and plase do answer about indira
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 lisetn i'm not denying the fact there's issues with Indian Govt against the sikhs all i'm saying is that sikhs dont help their own cause, i can bet you if we did peaceful protest and kept the media on our sides with facts i bet you in today's world we dont need to pick up guns and choose the path of violence, and as far as bhindrawala is concerned they were given 4 days warning to come out of the gurdwara he chose to stay and it was stupid to think u can go against indian army.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 we did do a peaceful protest in 78' and what happened... they were murdered and its not as if sant ji told sikhs to go on some rampage what he said was defend the helpless and bring justice to those who do wrong because the police weren't doing anything but raping killing and looting people for example jaswant singh khalra proved how thousands of people were killed and theres no records of them and how people were killed in fake encounters those same people killed him as well
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 bhindrawala called out and sikh we are gonna kill hindus dont you remember when hindu were being singled out of the buses and shot rigth in front of everyone, were they not innocent? i know about encounters but there's always other side of the story ALWAYS
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 lol and today everyone knows that those "sikhs" were the kaleh kaches who were cops dressing up like singhs calling themselves men of bhindranwala.. thats the other side of the story thats why bhindranwala helped hindus on many occasions, for example a hindu girl who was kidnapped and a hindu woman who has being harassed by her in-laws to get money from her parents who were poor
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 thats some of it, but the general consensus doesnt change what other people or the rest of the world thought about sikhs when they blew up air India, how's that suppose to make us look like a peaceful nation? and when u pick up guns in the name of justice thats the results you face, u can tell khalistani achievements what about the hindus that allowed sikhs in their houese during 84 riots? like i said there's always the other side of the coin, and sikhs have hard time admitting that.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 so just because people thought wrong of us it our fault.. 60 minutes came and had an interview with bhindranwala they wanted to show his house why? because they thought he'd be living in some palace but reality is they he didnt he lived in a broken down 2 room house makes sense why the didnt show that since it would go along with their story of trying to become the next khomeini.
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 part2.. air india was done by some fools who never understood the cause.. majority of sikhs never supported them as for picking up guns...Sri Guru Gobind Singh: "when all other means have failed it is then righteous to draw the sword" bhindranwala went to court nothing happened sirdar kapur singh proved the indian govt wrong nothing happened people were being killed weapons were taken up for defense did he go to delhi or did the govt come to amritsar?
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 unfortunatily bhindrawala's speeches went a long way to brain wash the youth of punjab and the trickle down effect was air India bombing you can't seperate them ... those guys still claim they are khalistanis, in front of the media .. i honestly hope sikhs can start thinking a little diffrently and maybe try to achieve some major things for the humanity, take a diffrent route than the rest of religious sheep, i use to think like you but i think we need to change our mentality.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 really? the speeches ive herd convey the total opposite message..unless you have links to speeches where he's promoting hatred. air india bombing: they werent youths they were in their 40's where are you going with this?anyone can claim to be anything but they can be doing the total opposite of what they claim to be
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 damn right look the the tone bhindrawala took against the hindus, asking eye for an eye, many examples on your right click anything, please dont justify everything single thing, do u have any idea how many guys in the 20s went under the wing of bhindrawala, and do you know how many sikhs flocked to overseas during '84, my cousin wanted to join the movement his parents begged him to leave country, he lives in california now, thank god changed his mind, there were many guys who did that.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 like i said before post some link: type in Sant Bhindranwale - Who Our War Is With & Youth SUBTITLED tell me where he says hes going to kill hindus and eye for an eye its all being done for sri guru granth sahib and the innocent people. if you think he's still wrong what do you expect him to do sit of to the side and beg on his knees for people no to do this? no. sri guru hargobind sahib ji and sri guru gobind singh ji taught us to take action not sit around
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 i dont have to post any links because most links are biased and posted by pro khalistan groups, read their channel names and you'll get the point, what about lala jagat narain murder, dont tell me he was accused of that, thats why bhindrawala hid, and realistacally he wanted to be in power and president of SGPC and he himself admitted that to P.R.O of darbar sahib, he had political intrest and he mixed religion in it, look at anna hazare today, no wepons used.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 cant their be things posted by people who are against him? cant their be things posted by people who are neutral? well i post videos of him speaking himself. jagat narain he was arrested but no evidence was found. sgpc president lol what were you sitting there he told the panth at anji sahib that if he ever tried to attain any political position he would deserve a beating by the panth
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 its a truth and a fact that bhindrawala had a hidden agenda to take over SGPC .. if he was a true sikh he should'nt have hid in the darbar sahib he was given a warning but he knew that they would be attacked then why did he stay? if he wanted he could've saved a lot of blood shed and 'be adbi' to darbar sahib.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 well since you "dont want to" (or maybe because there isnt any) post any links heres one for you from him his own mouth: sant bhindranwale killing it length is 3:04
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 there's so many biased views that its unbelieveable sikhs dont want to hear the truth, dude i can't post links on youtube other than the videos and the videos are just mind numbing biased with remixed rap music behind bhindrawala speeches if you wanna hear that again, dude bhindrwala have bluntly asked hindus to leave punjab, just because its not on youtube doesnt mean its not true
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 1. he helped countless number of hindus. 2. he was neither for or against khalistan 3. if the government chose to give it they would take it. 3. he wished to stay within india but as equals and with a separate identity and not considered hindus... true but what about the videos of him speaking himself? its not as if im giving you some random link to some 20 year old sitting at home making random videos... there videos of his speeches
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 what about the fact he basically asked hindus to leave punjab and many did move to haryana or himachal why? why did many monay sikh started wearing turbans and when the movement was over they cut their... because they were scared for their lives, singhs would show up in the middle of the night at any random house to harras people to cook for 10-15, dont tell me that didnt happen, dude movement got the regular people by the balls they were stuck in the middle, people were sick of it.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 can't you hear what he's saying you are only hearing what you want to hear, he's bascially asking for violence 'jatka ke aaia karo mere kol' is that really necessary? dude killing each other those days are gone there's many ways to deal with situations like what he was saying why stoop to the same level of the idiots ..rise above it, isnt that a sikh way?
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 what should i be hearing.. please do explain. im not saying violence is the answer but what are you supposed to when the courts dont do anything about seeking justice for the innocent, when people have become above the law?
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 2 words Anna Hazare .. and no he's not politically motivated.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 ....Dr Jodh Singh, Sirdar Kapur Singh, Cynthia Keppley Mahmood, Joyce Pettigrew
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 ya and? what does that even mean? ofcourse there are other people who wrote the other side of the story as well ... you are just reading what you want to read ... trust me i've read these guy's info as well
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 ive read and watched things from both sides and based on that i made my decision. yea if have read their works you wouldnt of had said and i quote: "the things that they were putting in that resolution was absolutely stupid, how can they claim ti baptize sikhs on a mass sacle me being a sikh, i'd like to have a choice weather me or my kids should be baptized and they were trying to have school teachers and kids baptized"
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 well i stand by statement i'm gonna let my kids decide weather they want to be baptized or not ..i'm not gonna tell them to do paath or wear a kirpan even if they didnt exactly know what it means, if they decide when they grow up to amrit shak so be it, the problem with most sikhs is that they pretty much tell their kids to do what they did, you only live once and life is precious, being a good person is more important than being extremly relegious.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 funny..we actually agree on something... but this is a whole different issue
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 ofcourse you have to stand by your actions ...khalistanis picked up guns and you have to be prepared to be called a terrosit, al queda is prolly thinking they are martyrs as well, but look what the world is calling them ...this is how it works and u are a minority making bold statements thats even worse ... sorry to burst your bubble its the way life is.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 al queda is something totally different and something complex...provide some examples of incidents of "khalistani" attacks and not just saying some random shooting.
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 given the fact we are such a low population religion but since 84 we've been in headlines known as terrorist, khalistani acts have been known around the world, imagine if we were the size of al queda and with the same 'garam' thinkning turst me sikhs are totally emotional it could've been far worse, the shootings weren't random that was way more than what we needed in punjab, so just because more than 300 people weren't killed, just random individual shooting its not a crime?
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 the taliban is something different they were funded and given arms to by the americans because the americans were trying to control the middle east al queda came out of taliban osama was the son of the richest man in saudi arabia who was a family member of the king. sant jarnail singh was tanding up for the death of the innocent and the anandpur sahib resolution, nor was i he some rich man with some palace.
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 if bhindrwala wasnt rich then where did the weapons and artillery come from? in the gurdwara, you know damn right the budget of darbar sahib, go read the ISI website so many khalistani groups are black listed along with other radical gropus in India ... theres always radiacals in every religion and we got pro khalistan and bhindrawala type, he did nothing but hurt the reputation of sikhs around the world, i'll never agree with what bhindrawala did EVER!
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 common sense people throughout india keep weapons...haha budget of darbar sahib what hes the accountant now too.. sgpc would never let him touch the money.... show some links where he talks about the wrong hes done or someone showing that
IIKSII1 5 months ago
@IIKSII1 yea sure common sense people also carry hand grenades and rocket launchers, so where did he get the money to buy the weapons from pakistan since he wasn't a rich person, i know a lot of money went from abroad but dont tell me the guys didn't use SGPC as a resource.
canuck1980 5 months ago
@canuck1980 they didnt now 12 barrel guns rifles are basic things that dont need a lot of money now on the internet you can see pictures of singhs holding pistols rifles and 12 barrels. then why arent there any of them with grenades and rocket launchers? SGPC was never with bhindranwala they and the akalis only showed up at rally's for votes. if the akalis and sgpc were with him they wouldnt of had been involved in the murder of bhai surinder singh sodhi