Mediamatters is so ridiculously biased, so much time and energy slandering conservative views, beck didnt tell anyone to go kill pelosi or attack her or harm her. And yet a man goes into discovery hq with a bomb, quoting Al gores fearmongering and metiamatters wont seem a bit concerned. Can u imagine if that man had been influence by beck. Lol. Not an ounce of intellectual honesty, What a joke the Left has become, Full of the same racism and hatefulness they accuse conservatives of.
Tea party members need to stop pretending like this is some grass roots constitution-based political movement. It's not. It was a manufactured, GOP funded anti-obama group fueled by Koch Industries, AFP, FreedomWorks, and Fox News. You convince enough angry & disillusioned people that Obama is the boogieman and is after your grandmas and your pensions, and you can tell them anything after that - they'll believe it.
While I have my issues with Fox News I don't think it's right to blame them for the actions of others. Anyone who buys into the sensationalist hype of Fox News was most likely already predisposed to being gullible and unbalanced. Fox News isn't responsible for the ignorance of others.
what an idiot blaming fox news because her grown up son cant control threats to pelosi. id consider it his own responsibility. msnbc makes me wanna punch a baby but do i go ahead and do it and then blame the network? NO
1. Either Glenn Beck and Rupert Murdoch are so unaware that they don't know that there are mentally ill people who are capable of acquiring a gun and shooting a Congressman, or
2. they have so little regard for human life that they don't care if someone dies as a result of Beck's fearmongering and supportive statements from incumbent Republican Members of Congress.
Either possibility seems bizarre, but the latter seems more plausible.
@ReliableInsider The only thing that Beck and Murdoch care about is the bottom line.....their income. They can spew whatever rhetoric they choose, then head home to their safe, gated community homes and relax in luxorious comfort.
It appears that Rupert Murdoch and the owners of News Corp purposefully design their news to attract the 10% of Americans who are mentally ill (about 30,000,000 million people).
@up2trix Facts? Where are these facts which you speak of? The closest you can get to facts is in a history book and you know what, no one fucking reads those any more.
@321lawc Are you taking the piss? wtf, no one reads history books?? you've just shown yourself up, its no wonder you (i assume) buy into that conservative shite; maybe if you read a history book you'd realise how stupid some of things you probably support are.
@321lawc omd you had to go there didn't you. yeah he said it in jest but it had a serious point behind it. he actually said when doing an impression of george bush as the white house press correspondants' dinner. you should search it.
@AccidentalDem So rife with with anger. You can't seem to understand the context of which that sentence was written. Most Obama voters and the American public in general do not know shit about history.
@321lawc maybe if McCaine and Palin had been elected your sad country would be in even more crap right now old son...not much point buying a car from the makers if the makers are out of business eh?
on a more serious note,your money would be worthless!
but then i AM asking you to do the imposabile and THINK!
@321lawc not an obama worshipper. i give him a c+/b-. if he plays his cards right, he can manage a b for his first term. who do want to fix the country? palin/bachmann? yeah, ok.
@AccidentalDem Lol. Sure he is comrade, our leader is so glorious isn't he. Just don't learn about basic economics. And don't think in general either, just keep being spoon fed, feel-good nonsense by the democrats.
You're making broad generalizations that have no basis in reality. Not many real liberals are impressed with Obama, and the people in the middle who support him more and more are in existence because dimwits like YOU are pushing so hard against him. With every attack comes a defense, and the right does not STOP attacking. This is why people get defensive over Obama. You guys are the only ones fucking worshiping idols like Reagan and Cheney, for fuck's sake.
And you know what? It's okay to admire someone's work, or who they are as a person. Stop pretending it's the same thing as worshiping Stalin or Mao. It's absolutely ridiculous, and it makes you look like a fucking child. Also, you right-wingers need to stop pretending you're historians. I am studying in the field of history and most of my colleagues are, indeed, very leftist. The only right-wingers are war-historians (specifically looking at battles), and that doesn't count for much.
@cherrydog9 believing that a career politician, who has looked for his own political interests as a legislator, is going to end partisanship and lobbying is dumb. Not, luckily for Obama supporters, a mental illness; you are not born dumb, you can see the mistake in voting for obama. it is not too late.
@cherrydog9 hard to say. Stepping out of politics, looking at polls, you see
1. A desire to make history.
2. Large amount of divisiveness on the issue of Healthcare.
3. Protests, in about as many numbers as the hippies, against the current government.
Something ridiculous like Palin/Bacchman is possible. Thank Obama for that.
Personally, I'm tired of career politicians. where the clash occurs between us is that you want an elitist who knows whats best, and i want them off my damn porch.
@4lifejackhammer "in about as many numbers as hippies"? dude, come back to planet earth. compare the actual numbers in the anti-war marches of the 60s and the teabagger snit-fits.
"elitist" is code word for "educated". yes, i want an educated politician. apparently, you don't. we'll see who's right eventually, i guess.
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Oh for pete's sake you friggin guys need to get a life. If this is so bad who do we prosecute for eight years of kill George Bush signs and all the threats he got? Should we put Keith Olbermann in jail? Lets! This channel is a complete farce. You do just what your masthead says which is progressive propaganda. And let's not forget the death threats to the Republicans like Eric Cantor. get a life and find anpother dead horse to beat already. that all you got?
@321law proof are you not the party of strom thurmond or you party is the made of anti- semitic , anti -black ,anti latino, anti-guy ====But there pastors and there priest like fucking little boys and your senator like fucking pages and these are the same people who were fighting in civil war so they could have slaves now go to school dimwit.
@eugeneonegin09 I used to think Washington Democrats didn't have spines, too, but now I'm convinced the problem is that they have too many spines.
More often than not, you'll find the GOP has a very unified stance on a given issue at a very specific point in time. It's effective for them, but it sure is creepy and dangerous.
a "conservative" with mental history and history of not paying? wow, sounds like a loose cannon to begin with. This guy could have listened in to YT or something similar and tried to kill GWB. To point to anything other than the person for threatening attacks is ridiculous and irresponsible; where the hell is personal accountability?
@4lifejackhammer Media Matters favors an end to the First Amendment. Anyone who opposes Obama's leftist agenda should not have freedom of the press. Media Matters appears to actually agree with this mental patient's mother that FOX News is responsible for his threat against Nancy Pelosi. Are the followers of Obama, Pelosi and Media Matters this gullible that they'll fall for Media Matters' fascist propaganda?
@ReliableInsider I watched a movie once on a system that had people punished before they committed a crime. Crime did go down, but one man used the system to make himself invulnerable, and able to keep power. So, what is the cost of what you are demanding. GB and Murdoch today; YT and Olbermann tomorrow. Fact is, they did not per se incite violence, and they therefore did not do a criminal act. Personal accountability is for people to listen and rationalize.
Prosecuting people for incitement to riot has nothing to do with prior restraint.
If Glenn Beck or a mafia don convinces someone to murder someone, we should hold Glenn Beck responsible, just as we would hold the mafia don responsible.
@ReliableInsider glenn beck joked. it may have been of poor tastes, but it was not even a hinted message to kill the one of best boon for the republican party. Further, while mobsters are sociopaths, they get the go-ahead from a don to do the job. The don says "kill mr. so-and-so." Beck did not tell people to threaten lives; on the contrary, he said be peaceful. What would violence do for his cause, whether real or cash crop? Nothing positive. your reasoning is very flawed on that example.
Glenn Beck hasn't told one or two jokes. His entire career now is dedicated to creating hysteria by lying constantly whenever he is on the air. He is trying to get some nutcase to kill a Congressman. He's crossed over from hate-monger to violence-monger.
Anyone who listens to his nonsense and can't see it is blinded by politics.
@ReliableInsider opinions cannot be construed as fact or fiction. suspicions of his, therefore, cannot be a lie unless he himself does not believe him. either way, it makes as much sense for Beck to want "liberal deaths" from radicals as it would for Obama to want black panthers and the like to kill mainstream conservatives; it doesn't paint a message that the respective people want the public to hear. Your argument of him wanting politicians murdered holds no logical base.
Fox News:Shit happens and it is not our fault. These are the same people who are giving us Gretchen the Grinch and Megyn the Fembot,among others. When are people going to wake the fuck up and realizes that they are full of shit.
Did anybody catch the welfare fraud conviction? That one had me in stitches, considering this man's apparent politics.
A right-wing classmate of mine recently asked his Facebook friends to name one good thing the government has ever done. Knowing he and his family received welfare, I answered him accordingly.
@jizzmatic2000 or making sure our food and water isn't poisoned is also an acceptable answer, and building roads, and inventing the internet, and building public schools.
@CannibalShinobi Oh, the list of good things the government has done is astronomical -- as is the list of things we've screwed up. It just seems like the people complaining the loudest have either received welfare or are completely eligible for it.
@jizzmatic2000 yeah i know, my sister in law posted on facebook how she wants government to keep thier hands off her insurance and yet she had her first and only child payed fully by medicaid. some people are just stupid....
It wouldn't be the first time FAUX News had blood on their hands. Would Bush have ever been able to go into Iraq without FAUX's coordinated drumbeat for war?
Ah, the hypocrisy of right wing nutjobs. Convicted of welfare fraud yet threatening to kill Congress members trying to improve the "welfare" of the public. How many Teabaggers hold up signs about being against the ideology of socialism all the while screaming for the government not to touch their benefits? Basically, they want their cake and to eat it too.
@dafttool The Tea Party movement is not about socialism. It's about high unemployment, high housing foreclosures, an endless set of wars which are bleeding America dry. It's about Hussein Obama's promise of "hope" and "change" which turned out to be just another in a series of political shell games. Because the Bush recession is now the Obama recession and the Bush endless wars are now the Obama endless wars. And the only ones who are happy are hopeless leftist ideologues
@electango Respectfully, the Teabagger movement doesn't know it's ass from a hole in the ground (death panels, anyone?). No matter how well-intentioned the movement may have started, it's morphed into a monster nobody can control (though FAUX certainly tries). While of course not all are racist homophobes, the movement makes no apologies for the hate it's members now spew (which has what to do with "high unemployment, high housing foreclosures, an endless set of wars"?).
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@dafttool The Tea Party movement has nothing to do with hate. Obama's incompetent inability to improve the economy and end the endless wars is the issue, but to unquestioning ideologues anyone who opposes Obama is a racist homophobe full of hate. The popularity of the Tea Party movement has to do with a population promised hope and change and instead delivered more Bush. The Tea Party is a direct reaction to Obama's incompetence and his complete failure to deliver on his promises.
@electango I have to say that that is not how the Tea Party projects itself. It seems a lot more concerned about unions than it is banks, more concerned with gays in the military than leaving Afgan, more concerned that Obama is a commie than whether he delivered change. I would bet that nearly all the people in the Tea Party rallies did not vote for Obama.
@bodah44 Constituents should be concerned with unions, gays in the military, and whether Obama is a Communist. They are all important issues which should be transparently debated. However, the reason the Tea Party is getting so much attention apart from the fact that it is an outgrowth of the
GOP is the shamefully miserable performance of the Democratic Party which controls both houses of Congress and the Executive Branch. The American people are angry and they have every right to be angry.
@electango Gee, I wander what percentage of the tea partiers voted for Bush? How many posters and t shirts are directly from Fox news talking points? The comparisons to Hitler and Stalin aren't coming from some wacky bloggers but from a "news" organization. The hatred for the health care plan is very similar to Romneys plan in Mass but it is being touted as the end of the US. Uninformed knuckleheads yell that there Medicare will be taken away at the same time they call Obama a Socialist.
@electango Then why don't they apologize or at least criticize their fellow members for behaving in such a way, instead of being complicit w/winks & nods? Acknowledge & disavow the hate if you want legitimacy. Don't spit on black congressmen. Don't call people fags or niggers. And don't ridicule the sick & infirmed. At this point, teabaggers are just another version of Perot or Paul voters, except they spew hate at ALL of their gatherings (unlike the Perot or Paul folks)
@dafttool It has nothing to do in my opinion with race or sexual orientation. It has to do with opposing high unemployment with no new jobs creation on the horizon at all. It has to do with opposing higher housing foreclosures and opposing the Obama endless wars policy. The Tea Party people oppose Obama not because of his ethnicity but rather because he is failing to turn the country in the right direction. People have the right to be angry and to protest.
@electango I get that hate isn't what Teabaggers started out doing, but you are ignoring that hate is presently now a central characteristic of the group regardless of its beginnings. I say again, if you want the movement to succeed, to have legitimacy, you absolutely have to acknowledge & disavow the hate being spewed at all of its gatherings. If no clear dileation is ever established between the nutjobs & the serious, then all appear to be nutjobs, hate undermining their message.
@dafttool The message is America is angry because the current set of bums in Washington aren't fixing the economy or ending the wars which are bleeding America dry. Your phony concern with hate is a diversion from the real issues. Its a worn out campaign tactic used by Obama similar to playing the race card. Why are you seeking to divert attention from the current set of bums in Washington who need to be thrown out on their asses? Let's deal with real issues. The Tea Party is.
@electango How does being angry at Washington justify calling congressmen niggers & faggots, spitting in their faces, threatening their lives? How is it not racist to portray our black president in white face or as a cartoonish witch doctor? Why denigrate & ridicule the sick & infirmed? Quit pretending you have the high ground while attacking your fellow Americans from the low ground. You'll earn America's respect when your group starts behaving respectfully to its neighbors and fellow citizens.
@dafttool The alleged unproven inappropriate actions of individuals can no way be attributed to an organized group unless proven to have been of, by and for that group. Your allegations are unproven. Ergo they're worthless except as hearsay. It's interesting you continue to focus on them while showing a total inability to defend Obama's incompetence, his failure to turn the economy around or end our endless wars. You are living proof of the political bankruptcy of the left wing in America.
@electangorocks "alledged"? "unproven"? Key up the video tapes. We've all been witness to their volatile shenanigans. This entire comment thread (ie, my focus here) is about the over the top actions of the Teabaggers encouraging violence, not an argument for or against whatever it is Teabaggers believe this week. You're the one not addressing the matter at hand, ignoring those bad apples that have ruined the whole bunch.
@dafttool You are attacking free lance protesters. One could find leftist supporters of Obama to criticize similarly. For instance, there were men dressed up as Black Panthers with guns at polling places there to intimidate voters to vote for Obama back in 2008. And there were pro Obama ACORN workers who aided and abetted an alleged importer of underage illegal immigrant sex workers. Shall we hold the Democratic Party or the Obama campaign responsible for the actions of those individuals?
@electangorocks The difference between your example & mine is that the Dems actually announced to the Black Panther-wannabes, "you guys aren't with us," when Teabaggers say to their own gun-wielding/threatening guys, "come all, and bring your watering the tree of liberty with blood T-shirts" One group says those people don't represent our ideals, and the other says "let's start a revolution"
@dafttool Actually, nothing was done for these violations of federal election laws and gun laws because these Black Panther wannabe thugs supported Obama. In fact, most drug dealers, convicted felons, gangbangers and street thugs support Obama. Because they know he condones their activities by blaming the capitalist system and white supremacy for THEIR criminal actions. So a pro Obama thug can show up at a Philly polling place armed to intimidate voters and get away with it under Obama.
@electangorocks Your latent racism peeked out in that last comment, but whatever. The Dems rejected those BP guys; Teabaggers never criticize any of their own wackos. Also, Obama was not president when those BP guys did their PR/intimidation stunt, thus he is not the one you should be blaming. And as for your conspiracy theory of nothing being done, what was done to the armed Teabaggers at town hall meetings? Answer, nothing ALSO. Their freedom of expression was also upheld by the authorities.
@dafttool Gangbangers, thugs, convicted felons, and drug dealers come in all colors. Obviously you think those illicit occupations are related to skin color so perhaps it's YOUR latent racism which has peeked out? Whatever. Your polling place armed intimidatory pro Obama gangster thugs broke federal laws which Obama declined to enforce. Obama could have prosecuted those chillingly undemocratic felonies but apparently he's decided to let the statutes of limitations run out on the crimes.
@electangorocks Obama's not the attorney general. If prosecuters didn't pursue charges, take your complaint to them,...but they also didn't pursue the town hall militia thugs either, so at least the authorities are being even-handed their pussy-ness. They didn't pursue ACORN charges either. Or war criminal stuff against Bush Co. As for most of your complaints about Obama, you seem to think he has a magic wand to fix...err, screw up everything it took a decade for others to create. Be realistic.
@dafttool You know some ppl have put together very good collaborations of video of the incidents when the congressman was supposedly called these things and well it doesnt look like it actually happened, not to mention the multilpe congressman who have told of this tales stories dont match up, but whatever. As far as ppl making nasty picture of obama offending you. How does it feel?? You dont remmeber bush being treated in an equal or worse way??how bout watch?v=yEr65ZX6gLw
@utubecenseorstruth i wanted the bill, i know a lot of peope who did. i think peopel that were against it try and inflate the nubmers, espeically when they come out and say "all of america didn't want this" no, only half didn't want it, half did. is one half supposed to live to the tyrrany of the other half?
@Shigeru11298 but why? many people who support the bill is because of wanting a win for obama or handouts for losers ( not everyone is but alot) america did not want the bill and i dont see how anyone can support the indiviual mandate. I could live with the rest of the bill without that. That part of the legislation has cost many good democrats their jobs. My party has been hijacked by people like reid pelosi and obama.
@grahamkeithtodd But I thought Obama was going to clean up the Bush mess! And that's what we were promised. But instead of hope and change as promised, we have received more Bush endless wars and more Bush great recession also with no end in sight. So perhaps it's time YOU stood back and took a good look? It's high time leftist ideologues held Obama to the same standards they held Bush.
How could this not happens when Glenn Beck go in the air and make a symbolic burning of Nancy Pelosi in National television and Bill O'Reilly say her head will be Bobbing up and Down in the San Francisco Bay.
I for one am glad this is happening, it is the only way Fox News will be exposed.
This is going to continue until so WinNut shot someone following the Hated speeches broadcasted every day from Fox News under the disguise of Free Speech.
JUST the sort of whack job Fox treasures as their preferred demographic. Odd that advertisers would want to advertise to them. Advertisers... go figure.
Let the right wing do its thing. This kind of behavior will only further categorize it as a domestic fringe terrorist militia that will eventually die out like all ideologies that promote racism, homophobia, hate, and violence.
@IFloridaMotocrossI the sad thing is, stuff like that WON'T die out. It's been going on since the beginning of man. People - or rather, right-wingers - just don't get it.
@SgtSanchez No, actually the sad thing is the leftist fascists of Media Matters are so power mad that any divergence of opinion from the standard Maoist vision of Media Matters' world view of Socialist Realism must be destroyed. Media Matters wants to censor FOX news. It sees FOX news as a threat. Pathetic.
@electango right, Media Matters - the YOUTUBE CHANNEL - is just SOOO power hungry. Are you fucking stupid? Media Matters isn't being funded by any giant corporation (unlike fox news), it's not even pushing leftist ideologies, it's just catching fox at what it does best - lying. Seriously, that re-education channel's fucking powerful if it can get people to believe a god damn YOUTUBE CHANNEL is vying for power and attacking a HUGE NETWORK STATION. God damn.
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@SgtSanchez Media Matters hopes people will buy the argument that FOX News is inciting the population to violence. So far from only exposing FOX News for lying, Media Matters is itself lying. And why? Media Matters is trying to put FOX News out of business. So Media Matters is lying to attack opponents of the incompetent President Obama. BTW that's called pushing a left wing agenda. Why does Media Matters have to lie in order to push its left wing agenda?
@electango What, specifically, is Media Matters lying about? You see, Media Matters cites its sources, uses facts, but doesn't engage in baseless name-calling and fear-mongering, unlike the current extremists like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity on Fox.
@skathay Media Matters is making the case that FOX News it inciting violence. This is a lie. The guy in San Francisco threatening Pelosi is mentally ill. He has made his way through life threatening and attacking others from way back. Of course his mother thinks he's innocent. Prisons are full of hard core murderers, rapists and robbers whose moms think they're innocent. But Media Matters agrees with her!!! The difference is Media Matters knows better, I think? Don't you, I hope?
@electango I hate to envoke Godwin's law, but perfectly innocent people who weren't anti-Semitic before Hitler became anti-Semitic after all of that propaganda was pushed. You're innocent too, electango, you've just been brainwashed. Re-education is a bitch, but if you're strong-willed, you can overcome it.
@SgtSanchez I've lived governed by Stalinists for most of my life and I recognize on my own that Obama is a Stalinist. I don't need FOX News to point out the obvious to me. The thuggish corruption of Obamaism sickens me because I've seen the damage it's caused locally and now that it's in control nationally we can see the same kind of damage. The country may not recover from this disaster.
Don't give me this bullshit that he's a fucking Stalinist. If he was, you'd already be deported to the fucking gulag, or starved. I have ancestors that died in the holdomor and I don't need little pricks like you belittling their experience by claiming someone who wants to pass universal healthcare is comparable to a MASS-MURDERER who actively sought out and KILLED people who opposed him. Seriously, the nerve of you idiots is appalling. You were never governed by any Stalinist regime.
If you had, you'd NEVER mistake Obama for a Stalinist. I'm absolutely baffled that you could be SO fucking dumb to insult the men and women who suffered under Stalinism by comparing this to their horrible experiences. Obama isn't the best - ANY real liberal will agree on that point - but RUINING AMERICA? You're fucking joking, right? The economy is recovering, we're actually GAINING jobs for once, and you're telling me the U.S. is going to shit? You fucking wish.
@SgtSanchez You leftist ideologues buy the Stalinist propaganda of Obama. Obama, like Stalin, is about accumulating power for himself and only about accumulating power for himself. Also, you will note the cult of personality of Obama also like his mentor Stalin. And the brainwashed followers of Obama who believe Obama acts in their best interests. You, for instance, foolishly believe that Obama wants universal health care. He only wants power. Obama is destroying America.
Ask yourself, TRULY ASK YOURSELF, do you believe Obama actually worships Stalin? Or even looks up to him? If you answered "yes," you are actually not worth anyone's time in a debate. You also proof you're either too stupid, or too much of an asshole to respect other people's dead fucking ancestors, once again telling me you're not worth ANYONE'S time in a debate. You never bring up any actual points, you never have anything of substance to say - you're an all-around useless douchebag. Have fun.
@SgtSanchez I never said Obama worships Stalin. I said Obama is a Stalinist. Quite a difference. Obama is after total political power like Stalin was. Like Stalin, Obama is not interested in fixing things, only in acquisition of power. His health care plan, for example, will wreck health care in America while centralizing more power in Washington under Obama. See the point? Perhaps you don't. Perhaps you prefer name calling and can't handle independent thought. Have fun.
You can't just... nevermind, I'm not wasting any more effort proving you just fucking LIED, it should have been fucking obvious.
And parts of the healthcare bill don't go all the way into effect until 2020. Tell me, does Obama plan to run for a third term?
A lot of fucking people want healthcare reform, not just Obama. You're as dumb as a truther or birther if you really think there's some fucking conspiracy.
@SgtSanchez Right now people are losing their homes and jobs. Health care reform isn't an urgent priority. Under Obama, jobs are not coming back and people still are losing their homes. So apart from conspiracies or cults of personalities, this guy doesn't get it. He's spending all his time on a health care reform which was written by drug companies, health insurance companies and other special interest groups while giving the middle finger to the unemployed and those losing their homes.
Jobs are coming back and people aren't losing their houses as frequently as before. As much as you hate it, the recession's coming to an end. As for the bill being written by drug companies - IT WOULDN'T HAVE EXISTED IF HE DIDN'T HAVE TO COMPROMISE. We should have had universal healthcare, but fucking NO, you had to push the middle from the middle to the right. Now we're stuck with YOUR shitty healthcare. Don't pin this on liberals who wanted something stronger, this is your own damn fault.
@SgtSanchez Obama's so called health care reform was a total flop and get this straight. It's Obama's health care reform. Obama handed the job over to the corrupt thieves of the US Congress who allowed corporate lobbyists to write the so called reform. Obama's pro corporate, anti consumer health care reform is Obama's responsiblity alone. He's the man at the top. Nice try.
@electangorocks He handed a good health care bill over to congress and, because idiots like you and weak liberals who don't want to confront idiots like you, it turned into a republican dream. The corrupt thieves were republicans. This is Mitt Romney's health care bill, not Obama's, not ANY liberals'.
Everyone, take note: when you are losing in an argument this bad, please don't continue commenting. You look like a real dumbass, and it's embarrassing to even imagine you live in the U.S.
@SgtSanchez Obama handed his health care reform over to the corrupt thieves of Congress because he himself is a corrupt thief. Then Congress handed it to lobbyists who produced a reform which will be made more pro corporate and more anti consumer as time passes. Your answer always is to blame others(FOX, Conservatives, Romney, etc) for Obama's failures. You must know deep in your heart, the American people will hold Obama fully responsible for his failures. I hope you do, for your sake.
Please provide evidence that Obama is actually a "corrupt thief." Then, and only then, will us elitist leftists stop laughing at you.
As for blaming Obama for a bad health care bill, I do, but he's a moderate who leans to the right with any slight wind. There was no need to push him. It's like saying pushing a suicidal guy off a cliff is his fault because he was suicidal. It's not going to stand up in court.
@SgtSanchez His whole career was built on support for universal health coverage with the single payer plan. That's the only humane health reform plan which puts the American people first and is the most effective and the most fair. Then when he became the most powerful man in the world, he decided to let corporate lobbyists write his health care reform plan. And you and your elitist leftist friends need evidence Obama is actually a corrupt thief?
...Really? He wanted universal health coverage, but he thought he couldn't get it, so he made concessions to republicans. His only crime is being a weak liberal, not thievery.
@carloz1 What we need is thought control. That way nobody will ever challenge authority in any way. Any time anyone thinks about Obama's corruption or Obama's incompetence, perhaps a small taser device installed in the hip bone of that person could be activated and a 50,000 volt charge could reeducate him. It certainly would make Obama's and Nancy Pelosi's lives easier as they heroically work to make America an all encompassing welfare state.
Where were the huge riots when Bush was sending us into poverty? Aside from a bunch of "unpatriotic, leftist loonies" (of which, I was one), you people never so much as made a peep about it - in fact, Fox DEFENDED Bush, over and over and over. You're a worthless piece of shit, you've yet to make a credible argument, and I'm only sticking around because your replies are so pathetic they're hilarious. I'd love a real argument, but I guess I'm just asking for too much from you dimwitted wankers.
@SgtSanchez Obama's skyrocketing unemployment and home foreclosures, lack of new jobs production, and failure to end our endless wars policy is hard to defend, is it? Well, why not try telling the truth for a change? And the truth is Obama is a disaster for America in multiple ways. Obama will hear from the American people come November big time. A little humility will do him good.
Did you do any research? Or have you kept your eyes glued to Fox? Look up "job gains graph," and behold! Data that completely contradicts what you just said! Good lord, say it isn't so, the economy's... IMPROVING! OH NO, WHAT WILL WE USE AS A CLEVER GUISE FOR OUR RACISM AND HATRED OF POOR PEOPLE?!
As for the war, it's something I completely disagree with, but at least we have a chance of getting out of it, unlike during Bush's reign. Again, where where were your riots and picket signs?
@SgtSanchez The jobs are not coming back and the ones most affected by Obama's jobless recovery (if you can call it a recovery at all) are poor people and people of color. And there are millions of workers who have simply given up on finding work and are not even counted in the unemployment statistics. Prominent among those are older workers victims of age discrimination. And Obama's pro Wall Street anti Main Street economic policies are responsible for all of this.
@electangorocks the jobs ARE coming back (see: factual data, not fox news pundits), and of course poor and black people are the ones most effected. It's always like that in a recession. I'd love to create policies that help these people reenter the work force, but Fox news and special viewers like you can't stand helping poor people. Also, please stop being so vague. You can't combat idiocy when the idiot's just saying shit like "he does bad things, end of story." Fox news has you brainwashed.
@SgtSanchez Obama and the Democratic Party control both Congress and the Executive Branch. But according to you Fox news and special viewers like me who can't stand to help poor people are responsible for all problems. With all power invested in the left, it's clear the left has no answers. It is disorganized and incompetent. The country is awash in debt and adrift and as always the responsibility rests at the top. Obama ran a great campaign but he's a flop running the government.
@electango They're not making that case. They're illustrating how, when Fox commentators use inflammatory rhetoric (like Glenn Beck does) people will begin acting on it. They're not saying Fox is inciting violence. They're illustrating how those who watch Fox will be misinformed and deceived, which will fill them with fear. Then, when Glenn Beck calls for revolution, people begin acting on it.
@skathay Glenn Beck does not call for revolution, violence or rebellion. He is a calls for action at the ballot box only. But if someone listens to Glenn Beck when he calls for change through voting out politicians and because of that person's mental health problem he hears a call for violence, how is that Glenn Beck's fault? Your logic here is very scary. In fact, in reading your post I'm more filled with fear than anyone listening to Glenn Beck. Your logic is chilling.
@electango With free speech comes personal responsibility. Beck has no sense of this responsibility. Yes, he might be advocating political involvement instead of violence, but he does so through such violent and so outrageous figures of speech that it's easy to see how it could unhinge someone who is already mentally unstable. Beck might not be doing anything technically illegal, but he certainly has no sense of ethics, morals or journalistic responsibility..
@skathay Did you or did you not say that first amendment rights should be curtailed in effect because what they say might be misunderstood or misinterpreted by mentally ill people? You're the one whose life is governed by fear. Loosen up!
@electangorocks I did not say that first amendment rights should be curtailed. I pointed out, as is Media Matters, that what Fox is doing is dishonest and deceptive. I think ethically they should not be doing this, but I never said they had no legal right to do so.
@skathay Fox is the major opposition voice to the one party state we now pay our federal taxes to. We need a vigorous opposition voice. Fox in no more and no less deceptive or dishonest than MSNBC, CNN or any other major news source. Why no demand for ethics or honesty from Rachel Maddow or Olbermann? Oh, because they are now pro government spokespersons.
@electango he most certianly does, do you think when Glenn goes on about how we need to fight back and hammer, and "fire" pelosi, he stops and says "but do it peacefully with votes" no. Glenn Beck daily encourages people to go out and threaten and plt to muder any politician he disagrees with.
@Shigeru11298 You're the fucking moron here, pal. You want opposition voices silenced because they oppose your Stalinist hero, Hussein Obama. Anyone voices effective criticism of Obama--you twist that criticism to make it seem dangerous to social order. Obama is bootlicking American enemies and inviting them to bash us. He's botched the economy and failed to end the Bush endless wars. Obama is working to make America weaker. What do you find so intoxicating about that?
@electangorocks like i said Obama is not a stalnist hero, he only is in the imagination of those who didn't vote for him. you have to continue the myth that Obama is a communist come to destroy america from the top down at any expense, even so much as to make grossly false statement, and when someone points out your falsehoods you immeadiately jump on them accusing them of being brainwashed. you cannot continue with falsehoods and turn them into truth like turning lead into gold
Mediamatters is so ridiculously biased, so much time and energy slandering conservative views, beck didnt tell anyone to go kill pelosi or attack her or harm her. And yet a man goes into discovery hq with a bomb, quoting Al gores fearmongering and metiamatters wont seem a bit concerned. Can u imagine if that man had been influence by beck. Lol. Not an ounce of intellectual honesty, What a joke the Left has become, Full of the same racism and hatefulness they accuse conservatives of.
Illumified 1 year ago
the tea oarty movement is nothing but a smoke screen to cover up these racist mothersfuckers hate for our president.
whitetailhunta 1 year ago 2
Great reporting. Media Matters, will you marry me?
newsradiohead 1 year ago
"Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us, and now we are discovering we work for Fox."
-- David Frum, former Bush speechwriter & American Enterprise Institute Fellow
Oops!!!
goog2k 1 year ago 2
also i do gree with stop calling it grassroots movement we all know it's not
vladjames2000 1 year ago 2
How whats happening to obama difference then whats happen to clintin bush and the others in the past besides the fact that Obama is an black pres?
vladjames2000 1 year ago 3
Wahahahah
sclf 1 year ago
Tea party members need to stop pretending like this is some grass roots constitution-based political movement. It's not. It was a manufactured, GOP funded anti-obama group fueled by Koch Industries, AFP, FreedomWorks, and Fox News. You convince enough angry & disillusioned people that Obama is the boogieman and is after your grandmas and your pensions, and you can tell them anything after that - they'll believe it.
scbluesman13 1 year ago 3
While I have my issues with Fox News I don't think it's right to blame them for the actions of others. Anyone who buys into the sensationalist hype of Fox News was most likely already predisposed to being gullible and unbalanced. Fox News isn't responsible for the ignorance of others.
deathmetalwolf85 1 year ago
Mentally unstable people obviously shouldn't be allowed to watch Fox News--of course that would take away most of their audience.
MaryJesusJoseph 1 year ago 3
what an idiot blaming fox news because her grown up son cant control threats to pelosi. id consider it his own responsibility. msnbc makes me wanna punch a baby but do i go ahead and do it and then blame the network? NO
damoose28 1 year ago
FOX NEWS IS FUCKING YOU UP AMERICA!!!
warrenoc 1 year ago 4
Sounds like the average Fox News/Right-wing radio audience member...
geffel 1 year ago
There are two possibilities:
1. Either Glenn Beck and Rupert Murdoch are so unaware that they don't know that there are mentally ill people who are capable of acquiring a gun and shooting a Congressman, or
2. they have so little regard for human life that they don't care if someone dies as a result of Beck's fearmongering and supportive statements from incumbent Republican Members of Congress.
Either possibility seems bizarre, but the latter seems more plausible.
ReliableInsider 1 year ago 20
@ReliableInsider The only thing that Beck and Murdoch care about is the bottom line.....their income. They can spew whatever rhetoric they choose, then head home to their safe, gated community homes and relax in luxorious comfort.
MoDans 1 year ago
Well this thing won't let me post anything like a lke but there is a web site out there that shows digns with death threats on them. It's zomblog.
drhu 1 year ago
Mom knows what's up. Every sane person in America knows Fox is poison.
jensen1901 1 year ago 4
the mother should sue faux noose.
BobbyPuun 1 year ago
It appears that Rupert Murdoch and the owners of News Corp purposefully design their news to attract the 10% of Americans who are mentally ill (about 30,000,000 million people).
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 22
@JayPhilosopher And Obama supporters aren't mentally ill? I loved the zombie-like chants of hope and change.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc oh yeah because that makes them mentally ill. at least they believe facts not bullshit from fox.
up2trix 1 year ago
@up2trix Facts? Where are these facts which you speak of? The closest you can get to facts is in a history book and you know what, no one fucking reads those any more.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc Are you taking the piss? wtf, no one reads history books?? you've just shown yourself up, its no wonder you (i assume) buy into that conservative shite; maybe if you read a history book you'd realise how stupid some of things you probably support are.
up2trix 1 year ago
@up2trix You were implying that Obama supporters are knowledge of history and somehow have a wonderful source of "facts". This I think is hilarious.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc good for you. "reality has a well known liberal bais" - steven colbert. keep that in mind.
up2trix 1 year ago
@up2trix I will keep in mind that steven colbert is a comedian.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc omd you had to go there didn't you. yeah he said it in jest but it had a serious point behind it. he actually said when doing an impression of george bush as the white house press correspondants' dinner. you should search it.
up2trix 1 year ago
@up2trix I think you should watch less TV and read more books.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc probably true tbh. i'm not gonna lie. still i read more than most though...
up2trix 1 year ago
@321lawc
The fact is you don't think.
AccidentalDem 1 year ago
@AccidentalDem And where'd that fact come from? I'd really love to know where all these facts are.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc
History books? obsolete? If they are it because of people like you. You make be ashamed to be human.
AccidentalDem 1 year ago
@AccidentalDem So rife with with anger. You can't seem to understand the context of which that sentence was written. Most Obama voters and the American public in general do not know shit about history.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc
History books obsolete? They will survive, but people with attitudes like your's are in question.
AccidentalDem 1 year ago
@321lawc optimism and striving to make this a better country is not a mental illness
cherrydog9 1 year ago
@cherrydog9 Bahahahaha, Obama gon' fix everythin!!!!!!!
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc, just like mc cain and the g.o.p. were going to do better. remember 8 years of shrub and cheyney, and THE G.O.P.
eugeneonegin09 1 year ago
@eugeneonegin09 Eh, the wars would be the same, but the stimulus bill and health care bullshit might have been vetoed.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc maybe if McCaine and Palin had been elected your sad country would be in even more crap right now old son...not much point buying a car from the makers if the makers are out of business eh?
on a more serious note,your money would be worthless!
but then i AM asking you to do the imposabile and THINK!
grahamkeithtodd 1 year ago
@321lawc not an obama worshipper. i give him a c+/b-. if he plays his cards right, he can manage a b for his first term. who do want to fix the country? palin/bachmann? yeah, ok.
cherrydog9 1 year ago
@321lawc
Obama is only fixing the things that were f@#$# up when he took office.
AccidentalDem 1 year ago
@AccidentalDem Lol. Sure he is comrade, our leader is so glorious isn't he. Just don't learn about basic economics. And don't think in general either, just keep being spoon fed, feel-good nonsense by the democrats.
321lawc 1 year ago
You're making broad generalizations that have no basis in reality. Not many real liberals are impressed with Obama, and the people in the middle who support him more and more are in existence because dimwits like YOU are pushing so hard against him. With every attack comes a defense, and the right does not STOP attacking. This is why people get defensive over Obama. You guys are the only ones fucking worshiping idols like Reagan and Cheney, for fuck's sake.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
And you know what? It's okay to admire someone's work, or who they are as a person. Stop pretending it's the same thing as worshiping Stalin or Mao. It's absolutely ridiculous, and it makes you look like a fucking child. Also, you right-wingers need to stop pretending you're historians. I am studying in the field of history and most of my colleagues are, indeed, very leftist. The only right-wingers are war-historians (specifically looking at battles), and that doesn't count for much.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago 3
@cherrydog9 believing that a career politician, who has looked for his own political interests as a legislator, is going to end partisanship and lobbying is dumb. Not, luckily for Obama supporters, a mental illness; you are not born dumb, you can see the mistake in voting for obama. it is not too late.
4lifejackhammer 1 year ago
@4lifejackhammer , YES.he isn't progressive enough
eugeneonegin09 1 year ago
@4lifejackhammer the alternative would've been much worse. bring on palin/bachmann and ensure obama's second term. you know this.
cherrydog9 1 year ago
@cherrydog9 hard to say. Stepping out of politics, looking at polls, you see
1. A desire to make history.
2. Large amount of divisiveness on the issue of Healthcare.
3. Protests, in about as many numbers as the hippies, against the current government.
Something ridiculous like Palin/Bacchman is possible. Thank Obama for that.
Personally, I'm tired of career politicians. where the clash occurs between us is that you want an elitist who knows whats best, and i want them off my damn porch.
4lifejackhammer 1 year ago
@4lifejackhammer "in about as many numbers as hippies"? dude, come back to planet earth. compare the actual numbers in the anti-war marches of the 60s and the teabagger snit-fits.
"elitist" is code word for "educated". yes, i want an educated politician. apparently, you don't. we'll see who's right eventually, i guess.
cherrydog9 1 year ago 2
@321lawc, just like the selfish self-centered libertarians, and their rednecked g.o.p.ers who slobber at the name of ronald reagan
eugeneonegin09 1 year ago
Fox News.
Abusing the First Amendment for profit.
All day, every day, in every way.
Silberdachs 1 year ago 2
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Oh for pete's sake you friggin guys need to get a life. If this is so bad who do we prosecute for eight years of kill George Bush signs and all the threats he got? Should we put Keith Olbermann in jail? Lets! This channel is a complete farce. You do just what your masthead says which is progressive propaganda. And let's not forget the death threats to the Republicans like Eric Cantor. get a life and find anpother dead horse to beat already. that all you got?
drhu 1 year ago
@drhu
If there were signs used before to exagerate the message of the carrier, are they even 1/10 as hateful and vile as we see today?
AccidentalDem 1 year ago
@drhu yes, let's ignore the law against death threats. that makes sense.
cherrydog9 1 year ago
This is not new this the true radical racist cult we call the GOP..........
john176900 1 year ago 5
@john176900 the GOP is racist? That's some lovely propaganda you've got up in your brain there.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321law proof are you not the party of strom thurmond or you party is the made of anti- semitic , anti -black ,anti latino, anti-guy ====But there pastors and there priest like fucking little boys and your senator like fucking pages and these are the same people who were fighting in civil war so they could have slaves now go to school dimwit.
john176900 1 year ago
Lol, fuck Pelosi.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc
Spine is fine, why have a brain.
AccidentalDem 1 year ago
@AccidentalDem Yeah, Democrats don't have spines. They think the world is about rainbows and gumdrops, and everyone deserves free stuff.
321lawc 1 year ago
@321lawc, you're right. democrats don't have spines. we're not progressive enough.
eugeneonegin09 1 year ago
@eugeneonegin09 I used to think Washington Democrats didn't have spines, too, but now I'm convinced the problem is that they have too many spines.
More often than not, you'll find the GOP has a very unified stance on a given issue at a very specific point in time. It's effective for them, but it sure is creepy and dangerous.
jizzmatic2000 1 year ago
@321lawc
Your grasp of language is remarkable. F@# Pelosi?
I wonder if this attitude would surface if the other party was is charge?
AccidentalDem 1 year ago
a "conservative" with mental history and history of not paying? wow, sounds like a loose cannon to begin with. This guy could have listened in to YT or something similar and tried to kill GWB. To point to anything other than the person for threatening attacks is ridiculous and irresponsible; where the hell is personal accountability?
4lifejackhammer 1 year ago
@4lifejackhammer Media Matters favors an end to the First Amendment. Anyone who opposes Obama's leftist agenda should not have freedom of the press. Media Matters appears to actually agree with this mental patient's mother that FOX News is responsible for his threat against Nancy Pelosi. Are the followers of Obama, Pelosi and Media Matters this gullible that they'll fall for Media Matters' fascist propaganda?
electango 1 year ago
@4lifejackhammer
That's what the world is asking Glenn Beck and Rupert Murdoch to do:
to start taking personal responsibility for the consequences of their actions.
Now. Before it's too late.
You can't "unshoot" a Congressman.
ReliableInsider 1 year ago 2
@ReliableInsider I watched a movie once on a system that had people punished before they committed a crime. Crime did go down, but one man used the system to make himself invulnerable, and able to keep power. So, what is the cost of what you are demanding. GB and Murdoch today; YT and Olbermann tomorrow. Fact is, they did not per se incite violence, and they therefore did not do a criminal act. Personal accountability is for people to listen and rationalize.
4lifejackhammer 1 year ago
@4lifejackhammer
Prosecuting people for incitement to riot has nothing to do with prior restraint.
If Glenn Beck or a mafia don convinces someone to murder someone, we should hold Glenn Beck responsible, just as we would hold the mafia don responsible.
ReliableInsider 1 year ago
@ReliableInsider glenn beck joked. it may have been of poor tastes, but it was not even a hinted message to kill the one of best boon for the republican party. Further, while mobsters are sociopaths, they get the go-ahead from a don to do the job. The don says "kill mr. so-and-so." Beck did not tell people to threaten lives; on the contrary, he said be peaceful. What would violence do for his cause, whether real or cash crop? Nothing positive. your reasoning is very flawed on that example.
4lifejackhammer 1 year ago
@4lifejackhammer
Glenn Beck hasn't told one or two jokes. His entire career now is dedicated to creating hysteria by lying constantly whenever he is on the air. He is trying to get some nutcase to kill a Congressman. He's crossed over from hate-monger to violence-monger.
Anyone who listens to his nonsense and can't see it is blinded by politics.
ReliableInsider 1 year ago
@ReliableInsider opinions cannot be construed as fact or fiction. suspicions of his, therefore, cannot be a lie unless he himself does not believe him. either way, it makes as much sense for Beck to want "liberal deaths" from radicals as it would for Obama to want black panthers and the like to kill mainstream conservatives; it doesn't paint a message that the respective people want the public to hear. Your argument of him wanting politicians murdered holds no logical base.
4lifejackhammer 1 year ago
Is anyone surprised?
Richardgwm 1 year ago
MediaMatters
Why the fuck did you change your intro? I know it makes it seem less childish but wtf
Reqrezentin 1 year ago
The nagas are rising again
Maddman27 1 year ago
Fox News:Shit happens and it is not our fault. These are the same people who are giving us Gretchen the Grinch and Megyn the Fembot,among others. When are people going to wake the fuck up and realizes that they are full of shit.
joespeed87 1 year ago 3
Did anybody catch the welfare fraud conviction? That one had me in stitches, considering this man's apparent politics.
A right-wing classmate of mine recently asked his Facebook friends to name one good thing the government has ever done. Knowing he and his family received welfare, I answered him accordingly.
jizzmatic2000 1 year ago 13
@jizzmatic2000 or making sure our food and water isn't poisoned is also an acceptable answer, and building roads, and inventing the internet, and building public schools.
CannibalShinobi 1 year ago 3
@CannibalShinobi Oh, the list of good things the government has done is astronomical -- as is the list of things we've screwed up. It just seems like the people complaining the loudest have either received welfare or are completely eligible for it.
jizzmatic2000 1 year ago
@jizzmatic2000 yeah i know, my sister in law posted on facebook how she wants government to keep thier hands off her insurance and yet she had her first and only child payed fully by medicaid. some people are just stupid....
CannibalShinobi 1 year ago
It wouldn't be the first time FAUX News had blood on their hands. Would Bush have ever been able to go into Iraq without FAUX's coordinated drumbeat for war?
dafttool 1 year ago 4
@dafttool DO you know nothing about the history of Iraq? It was fucking inevitable.
321lawc 1 year ago
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senatormi 1 year ago
Fox news; Tipping crazies over the edge since 1996.
ShallowBeThyGames 1 year ago 25
@ShallowBeThyGames ...and giving them their own shows on TV since 2008.. ; )
AmericanResponses 1 year ago 3
Ah, the hypocrisy of right wing nutjobs. Convicted of welfare fraud yet threatening to kill Congress members trying to improve the "welfare" of the public. How many Teabaggers hold up signs about being against the ideology of socialism all the while screaming for the government not to touch their benefits? Basically, they want their cake and to eat it too.
dafttool 1 year ago 13
@dafttool The Tea Party movement is not about socialism. It's about high unemployment, high housing foreclosures, an endless set of wars which are bleeding America dry. It's about Hussein Obama's promise of "hope" and "change" which turned out to be just another in a series of political shell games. Because the Bush recession is now the Obama recession and the Bush endless wars are now the Obama endless wars. And the only ones who are happy are hopeless leftist ideologues
electango 1 year ago
@electango Respectfully, the Teabagger movement doesn't know it's ass from a hole in the ground (death panels, anyone?). No matter how well-intentioned the movement may have started, it's morphed into a monster nobody can control (though FAUX certainly tries). While of course not all are racist homophobes, the movement makes no apologies for the hate it's members now spew (which has what to do with "high unemployment, high housing foreclosures, an endless set of wars"?).
dafttool 1 year ago 15
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@dafttool The Tea Party movement has nothing to do with hate. Obama's incompetent inability to improve the economy and end the endless wars is the issue, but to unquestioning ideologues anyone who opposes Obama is a racist homophobe full of hate. The popularity of the Tea Party movement has to do with a population promised hope and change and instead delivered more Bush. The Tea Party is a direct reaction to Obama's incompetence and his complete failure to deliver on his promises.
electango 1 year ago
@electango I have to say that that is not how the Tea Party projects itself. It seems a lot more concerned about unions than it is banks, more concerned with gays in the military than leaving Afgan, more concerned that Obama is a commie than whether he delivered change. I would bet that nearly all the people in the Tea Party rallies did not vote for Obama.
bodah44 1 year ago 2
@bodah44 Constituents should be concerned with unions, gays in the military, and whether Obama is a Communist. They are all important issues which should be transparently debated. However, the reason the Tea Party is getting so much attention apart from the fact that it is an outgrowth of the
GOP is the shamefully miserable performance of the Democratic Party which controls both houses of Congress and the Executive Branch. The American people are angry and they have every right to be angry.
electango 1 year ago
@electango Gee, I wander what percentage of the tea partiers voted for Bush? How many posters and t shirts are directly from Fox news talking points? The comparisons to Hitler and Stalin aren't coming from some wacky bloggers but from a "news" organization. The hatred for the health care plan is very similar to Romneys plan in Mass but it is being touted as the end of the US. Uninformed knuckleheads yell that there Medicare will be taken away at the same time they call Obama a Socialist.
carloz1 1 year ago
@electango Then why don't they apologize or at least criticize their fellow members for behaving in such a way, instead of being complicit w/winks & nods? Acknowledge & disavow the hate if you want legitimacy. Don't spit on black congressmen. Don't call people fags or niggers. And don't ridicule the sick & infirmed. At this point, teabaggers are just another version of Perot or Paul voters, except they spew hate at ALL of their gatherings (unlike the Perot or Paul folks)
dafttool 1 year ago 2
@dafttool It has nothing to do in my opinion with race or sexual orientation. It has to do with opposing high unemployment with no new jobs creation on the horizon at all. It has to do with opposing higher housing foreclosures and opposing the Obama endless wars policy. The Tea Party people oppose Obama not because of his ethnicity but rather because he is failing to turn the country in the right direction. People have the right to be angry and to protest.
electango 1 year ago
@electango I get that hate isn't what Teabaggers started out doing, but you are ignoring that hate is presently now a central characteristic of the group regardless of its beginnings. I say again, if you want the movement to succeed, to have legitimacy, you absolutely have to acknowledge & disavow the hate being spewed at all of its gatherings. If no clear dileation is ever established between the nutjobs & the serious, then all appear to be nutjobs, hate undermining their message.
dafttool 1 year ago 13
@dafttool delineation
dafttool 1 year ago
@dafttool The message is America is angry because the current set of bums in Washington aren't fixing the economy or ending the wars which are bleeding America dry. Your phony concern with hate is a diversion from the real issues. Its a worn out campaign tactic used by Obama similar to playing the race card. Why are you seeking to divert attention from the current set of bums in Washington who need to be thrown out on their asses? Let's deal with real issues. The Tea Party is.
electango 1 year ago
@electango How does being angry at Washington justify calling congressmen niggers & faggots, spitting in their faces, threatening their lives? How is it not racist to portray our black president in white face or as a cartoonish witch doctor? Why denigrate & ridicule the sick & infirmed? Quit pretending you have the high ground while attacking your fellow Americans from the low ground. You'll earn America's respect when your group starts behaving respectfully to its neighbors and fellow citizens.
dafttool 1 year ago 19
@dafttool The alleged unproven inappropriate actions of individuals can no way be attributed to an organized group unless proven to have been of, by and for that group. Your allegations are unproven. Ergo they're worthless except as hearsay. It's interesting you continue to focus on them while showing a total inability to defend Obama's incompetence, his failure to turn the economy around or end our endless wars. You are living proof of the political bankruptcy of the left wing in America.
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electangorocks "alledged"? "unproven"? Key up the video tapes. We've all been witness to their volatile shenanigans. This entire comment thread (ie, my focus here) is about the over the top actions of the Teabaggers encouraging violence, not an argument for or against whatever it is Teabaggers believe this week. You're the one not addressing the matter at hand, ignoring those bad apples that have ruined the whole bunch.
dafttool 1 year ago 2
@dafttool You are attacking free lance protesters. One could find leftist supporters of Obama to criticize similarly. For instance, there were men dressed up as Black Panthers with guns at polling places there to intimidate voters to vote for Obama back in 2008. And there were pro Obama ACORN workers who aided and abetted an alleged importer of underage illegal immigrant sex workers. Shall we hold the Democratic Party or the Obama campaign responsible for the actions of those individuals?
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electangorocks The difference between your example & mine is that the Dems actually announced to the Black Panther-wannabes, "you guys aren't with us," when Teabaggers say to their own gun-wielding/threatening guys, "come all, and bring your watering the tree of liberty with blood T-shirts" One group says those people don't represent our ideals, and the other says "let's start a revolution"
dafttool 1 year ago
@dafttool Actually, nothing was done for these violations of federal election laws and gun laws because these Black Panther wannabe thugs supported Obama. In fact, most drug dealers, convicted felons, gangbangers and street thugs support Obama. Because they know he condones their activities by blaming the capitalist system and white supremacy for THEIR criminal actions. So a pro Obama thug can show up at a Philly polling place armed to intimidate voters and get away with it under Obama.
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electangorocks Your latent racism peeked out in that last comment, but whatever. The Dems rejected those BP guys; Teabaggers never criticize any of their own wackos. Also, Obama was not president when those BP guys did their PR/intimidation stunt, thus he is not the one you should be blaming. And as for your conspiracy theory of nothing being done, what was done to the armed Teabaggers at town hall meetings? Answer, nothing ALSO. Their freedom of expression was also upheld by the authorities.
dafttool 1 year ago
@dafttool Gangbangers, thugs, convicted felons, and drug dealers come in all colors. Obviously you think those illicit occupations are related to skin color so perhaps it's YOUR latent racism which has peeked out? Whatever. Your polling place armed intimidatory pro Obama gangster thugs broke federal laws which Obama declined to enforce. Obama could have prosecuted those chillingly undemocratic felonies but apparently he's decided to let the statutes of limitations run out on the crimes.
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electangorocks Obama's not the attorney general. If prosecuters didn't pursue charges, take your complaint to them,...but they also didn't pursue the town hall militia thugs either, so at least the authorities are being even-handed their pussy-ness. They didn't pursue ACORN charges either. Or war criminal stuff against Bush Co. As for most of your complaints about Obama, you seem to think he has a magic wand to fix...err, screw up everything it took a decade for others to create. Be realistic.
dafttool 1 year ago
@dafttool You know some ppl have put together very good collaborations of video of the incidents when the congressman was supposedly called these things and well it doesnt look like it actually happened, not to mention the multilpe congressman who have told of this tales stories dont match up, but whatever. As far as ppl making nasty picture of obama offending you. How does it feel?? You dont remmeber bush being treated in an equal or worse way??how bout watch?v=yEr65ZX6gLw
Illumified 1 year ago
@dafttool Why do you hate America?
Decimator334 1 year ago
@dafttool neighter does our president. whatever you think of him pushing a bill america did not want really is not a good thing.
utubecenseorstruth 1 year ago
@utubecenseorstruth i wanted the bill, i know a lot of peope who did. i think peopel that were against it try and inflate the nubmers, espeically when they come out and say "all of america didn't want this" no, only half didn't want it, half did. is one half supposed to live to the tyrrany of the other half?
Shigeru11298 1 year ago
@Shigeru11298 but why? many people who support the bill is because of wanting a win for obama or handouts for losers ( not everyone is but alot) america did not want the bill and i dont see how anyone can support the indiviual mandate. I could live with the rest of the bill without that. That part of the legislation has cost many good democrats their jobs. My party has been hijacked by people like reid pelosi and obama.
utubecenseorstruth 1 year ago
@electango well then old son you really should stand back and SEE WHO GOT YOU ALL IN THE SHIT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
(clue it was NOT Obama!)
grahamkeithtodd 1 year ago
@grahamkeithtodd But I thought Obama was going to clean up the Bush mess! And that's what we were promised. But instead of hope and change as promised, we have received more Bush endless wars and more Bush great recession also with no end in sight. So perhaps it's time YOU stood back and took a good look? It's high time leftist ideologues held Obama to the same standards they held Bush.
electango 1 year ago
How could this not happens when Glenn Beck go in the air and make a symbolic burning of Nancy Pelosi in National television and Bill O'Reilly say her head will be Bobbing up and Down in the San Francisco Bay.
I for one am glad this is happening, it is the only way Fox News will be exposed.
This is going to continue until so WinNut shot someone following the Hated speeches broadcasted every day from Fox News under the disguise of Free Speech.
JerezJulio 1 year ago 4
JUST the sort of whack job Fox treasures as their preferred demographic. Odd that advertisers would want to advertise to them. Advertisers... go figure.
voyeurdug 1 year ago
Let the right wing do its thing. This kind of behavior will only further categorize it as a domestic fringe terrorist militia that will eventually die out like all ideologies that promote racism, homophobia, hate, and violence.
IFloridaMotocrossI 1 year ago 2
@IFloridaMotocrossI the sad thing is, stuff like that WON'T die out. It's been going on since the beginning of man. People - or rather, right-wingers - just don't get it.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez No, actually the sad thing is the leftist fascists of Media Matters are so power mad that any divergence of opinion from the standard Maoist vision of Media Matters' world view of Socialist Realism must be destroyed. Media Matters wants to censor FOX news. It sees FOX news as a threat. Pathetic.
electango 1 year ago
@electango right, Media Matters - the YOUTUBE CHANNEL - is just SOOO power hungry. Are you fucking stupid? Media Matters isn't being funded by any giant corporation (unlike fox news), it's not even pushing leftist ideologies, it's just catching fox at what it does best - lying. Seriously, that re-education channel's fucking powerful if it can get people to believe a god damn YOUTUBE CHANNEL is vying for power and attacking a HUGE NETWORK STATION. God damn.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
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@SgtSanchez Media Matters hopes people will buy the argument that FOX News is inciting the population to violence. So far from only exposing FOX News for lying, Media Matters is itself lying. And why? Media Matters is trying to put FOX News out of business. So Media Matters is lying to attack opponents of the incompetent President Obama. BTW that's called pushing a left wing agenda. Why does Media Matters have to lie in order to push its left wing agenda?
electango 1 year ago
@electango What, specifically, is Media Matters lying about? You see, Media Matters cites its sources, uses facts, but doesn't engage in baseless name-calling and fear-mongering, unlike the current extremists like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity on Fox.
skathay 1 year ago 4
@skathay Media Matters is making the case that FOX News it inciting violence. This is a lie. The guy in San Francisco threatening Pelosi is mentally ill. He has made his way through life threatening and attacking others from way back. Of course his mother thinks he's innocent. Prisons are full of hard core murderers, rapists and robbers whose moms think they're innocent. But Media Matters agrees with her!!! The difference is Media Matters knows better, I think? Don't you, I hope?
electango 1 year ago
@electango I hate to envoke Godwin's law, but perfectly innocent people who weren't anti-Semitic before Hitler became anti-Semitic after all of that propaganda was pushed. You're innocent too, electango, you've just been brainwashed. Re-education is a bitch, but if you're strong-willed, you can overcome it.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez I've lived governed by Stalinists for most of my life and I recognize on my own that Obama is a Stalinist. I don't need FOX News to point out the obvious to me. The thuggish corruption of Obamaism sickens me because I've seen the damage it's caused locally and now that it's in control nationally we can see the same kind of damage. The country may not recover from this disaster.
electango 1 year ago
Don't give me this bullshit that he's a fucking Stalinist. If he was, you'd already be deported to the fucking gulag, or starved. I have ancestors that died in the holdomor and I don't need little pricks like you belittling their experience by claiming someone who wants to pass universal healthcare is comparable to a MASS-MURDERER who actively sought out and KILLED people who opposed him. Seriously, the nerve of you idiots is appalling. You were never governed by any Stalinist regime.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez Amen! Preach it, brother!
newsradiohead 1 year ago
If you had, you'd NEVER mistake Obama for a Stalinist. I'm absolutely baffled that you could be SO fucking dumb to insult the men and women who suffered under Stalinism by comparing this to their horrible experiences. Obama isn't the best - ANY real liberal will agree on that point - but RUINING AMERICA? You're fucking joking, right? The economy is recovering, we're actually GAINING jobs for once, and you're telling me the U.S. is going to shit? You fucking wish.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez You leftist ideologues buy the Stalinist propaganda of Obama. Obama, like Stalin, is about accumulating power for himself and only about accumulating power for himself. Also, you will note the cult of personality of Obama also like his mentor Stalin. And the brainwashed followers of Obama who believe Obama acts in their best interests. You, for instance, foolishly believe that Obama wants universal health care. He only wants power. Obama is destroying America.
electango 1 year ago
Ask yourself, TRULY ASK YOURSELF, do you believe Obama actually worships Stalin? Or even looks up to him? If you answered "yes," you are actually not worth anyone's time in a debate. You also proof you're either too stupid, or too much of an asshole to respect other people's dead fucking ancestors, once again telling me you're not worth ANYONE'S time in a debate. You never bring up any actual points, you never have anything of substance to say - you're an all-around useless douchebag. Have fun.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago 3
@SgtSanchez I never said Obama worships Stalin. I said Obama is a Stalinist. Quite a difference. Obama is after total political power like Stalin was. Like Stalin, Obama is not interested in fixing things, only in acquisition of power. His health care plan, for example, will wreck health care in America while centralizing more power in Washington under Obama. See the point? Perhaps you don't. Perhaps you prefer name calling and can't handle independent thought. Have fun.
electango 1 year ago
"Obama also like his mentor Stalin"
and then
" I never said Obama worships Stalin."
You can't just... nevermind, I'm not wasting any more effort proving you just fucking LIED, it should have been fucking obvious.
And parts of the healthcare bill don't go all the way into effect until 2020. Tell me, does Obama plan to run for a third term?
A lot of fucking people want healthcare reform, not just Obama. You're as dumb as a truther or birther if you really think there's some fucking conspiracy.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez Right now people are losing their homes and jobs. Health care reform isn't an urgent priority. Under Obama, jobs are not coming back and people still are losing their homes. So apart from conspiracies or cults of personalities, this guy doesn't get it. He's spending all his time on a health care reform which was written by drug companies, health insurance companies and other special interest groups while giving the middle finger to the unemployed and those losing their homes.
electangorocks 1 year ago
Jobs are coming back and people aren't losing their houses as frequently as before. As much as you hate it, the recession's coming to an end. As for the bill being written by drug companies - IT WOULDN'T HAVE EXISTED IF HE DIDN'T HAVE TO COMPROMISE. We should have had universal healthcare, but fucking NO, you had to push the middle from the middle to the right. Now we're stuck with YOUR shitty healthcare. Don't pin this on liberals who wanted something stronger, this is your own damn fault.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez Obama's so called health care reform was a total flop and get this straight. It's Obama's health care reform. Obama handed the job over to the corrupt thieves of the US Congress who allowed corporate lobbyists to write the so called reform. Obama's pro corporate, anti consumer health care reform is Obama's responsiblity alone. He's the man at the top. Nice try.
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electangorocks He handed a good health care bill over to congress and, because idiots like you and weak liberals who don't want to confront idiots like you, it turned into a republican dream. The corrupt thieves were republicans. This is Mitt Romney's health care bill, not Obama's, not ANY liberals'.
Everyone, take note: when you are losing in an argument this bad, please don't continue commenting. You look like a real dumbass, and it's embarrassing to even imagine you live in the U.S.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago 2
@SgtSanchez Obama handed his health care reform over to the corrupt thieves of Congress because he himself is a corrupt thief. Then Congress handed it to lobbyists who produced a reform which will be made more pro corporate and more anti consumer as time passes. Your answer always is to blame others(FOX, Conservatives, Romney, etc) for Obama's failures. You must know deep in your heart, the American people will hold Obama fully responsible for his failures. I hope you do, for your sake.
electangorocks 1 year ago
[citation needed]
Please provide evidence that Obama is actually a "corrupt thief." Then, and only then, will us elitist leftists stop laughing at you.
As for blaming Obama for a bad health care bill, I do, but he's a moderate who leans to the right with any slight wind. There was no need to push him. It's like saying pushing a suicidal guy off a cliff is his fault because he was suicidal. It's not going to stand up in court.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez His whole career was built on support for universal health coverage with the single payer plan. That's the only humane health reform plan which puts the American people first and is the most effective and the most fair. Then when he became the most powerful man in the world, he decided to let corporate lobbyists write his health care reform plan. And you and your elitist leftist friends need evidence Obama is actually a corrupt thief?
electangorocks 1 year ago
...Really? He wanted universal health coverage, but he thought he couldn't get it, so he made concessions to republicans. His only crime is being a weak liberal, not thievery.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez Weakness is a huge flaw in a leader. We've had way too many weak leaders and it gets America into all kinds of unnecessary troubles.
electangorocks 1 year ago
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SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@electango So people like him and the rest is your guess as to what is in his head. Hardly a strong reason to come to such dire conclusions.
carloz1 1 year ago
@carloz1 What we need is thought control. That way nobody will ever challenge authority in any way. Any time anyone thinks about Obama's corruption or Obama's incompetence, perhaps a small taser device installed in the hip bone of that person could be activated and a 50,000 volt charge could reeducate him. It certainly would make Obama's and Nancy Pelosi's lives easier as they heroically work to make America an all encompassing welfare state.
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electangorocks Uh oh, you may be crazy. At least highly paranoid. No substance here folks.
carloz1 1 year ago
Where were the huge riots when Bush was sending us into poverty? Aside from a bunch of "unpatriotic, leftist loonies" (of which, I was one), you people never so much as made a peep about it - in fact, Fox DEFENDED Bush, over and over and over. You're a worthless piece of shit, you've yet to make a credible argument, and I'm only sticking around because your replies are so pathetic they're hilarious. I'd love a real argument, but I guess I'm just asking for too much from you dimwitted wankers.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez Obama's skyrocketing unemployment and home foreclosures, lack of new jobs production, and failure to end our endless wars policy is hard to defend, is it? Well, why not try telling the truth for a change? And the truth is Obama is a disaster for America in multiple ways. Obama will hear from the American people come November big time. A little humility will do him good.
electangorocks 1 year ago
Did you do any research? Or have you kept your eyes glued to Fox? Look up "job gains graph," and behold! Data that completely contradicts what you just said! Good lord, say it isn't so, the economy's... IMPROVING! OH NO, WHAT WILL WE USE AS A CLEVER GUISE FOR OUR RACISM AND HATRED OF POOR PEOPLE?!
As for the war, it's something I completely disagree with, but at least we have a chance of getting out of it, unlike during Bush's reign. Again, where where were your riots and picket signs?
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez The jobs are not coming back and the ones most affected by Obama's jobless recovery (if you can call it a recovery at all) are poor people and people of color. And there are millions of workers who have simply given up on finding work and are not even counted in the unemployment statistics. Prominent among those are older workers victims of age discrimination. And Obama's pro Wall Street anti Main Street economic policies are responsible for all of this.
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electangorocks the jobs ARE coming back (see: factual data, not fox news pundits), and of course poor and black people are the ones most effected. It's always like that in a recession. I'd love to create policies that help these people reenter the work force, but Fox news and special viewers like you can't stand helping poor people. Also, please stop being so vague. You can't combat idiocy when the idiot's just saying shit like "he does bad things, end of story." Fox news has you brainwashed.
SgtSanchez 1 year ago
@SgtSanchez Obama and the Democratic Party control both Congress and the Executive Branch. But according to you Fox news and special viewers like me who can't stand to help poor people are responsible for all problems. With all power invested in the left, it's clear the left has no answers. It is disorganized and incompetent. The country is awash in debt and adrift and as always the responsibility rests at the top. Obama ran a great campaign but he's a flop running the government.
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electango you're a fucking moron. go read a book and actually learn who and what Stalin did.
Shigeru11298 1 year ago
@electango They're not making that case. They're illustrating how, when Fox commentators use inflammatory rhetoric (like Glenn Beck does) people will begin acting on it. They're not saying Fox is inciting violence. They're illustrating how those who watch Fox will be misinformed and deceived, which will fill them with fear. Then, when Glenn Beck calls for revolution, people begin acting on it.
skathay 1 year ago
@skathay Glenn Beck does not call for revolution, violence or rebellion. He is a calls for action at the ballot box only. But if someone listens to Glenn Beck when he calls for change through voting out politicians and because of that person's mental health problem he hears a call for violence, how is that Glenn Beck's fault? Your logic here is very scary. In fact, in reading your post I'm more filled with fear than anyone listening to Glenn Beck. Your logic is chilling.
electango 1 year ago
@electango With free speech comes personal responsibility. Beck has no sense of this responsibility. Yes, he might be advocating political involvement instead of violence, but he does so through such violent and so outrageous figures of speech that it's easy to see how it could unhinge someone who is already mentally unstable. Beck might not be doing anything technically illegal, but he certainly has no sense of ethics, morals or journalistic responsibility..
newsradiohead 1 year ago
@electango You're ignorance is unbelievably terrifying.
skathay 1 year ago 2
@skathay Did you or did you not say that first amendment rights should be curtailed in effect because what they say might be misunderstood or misinterpreted by mentally ill people? You're the one whose life is governed by fear. Loosen up!
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electangorocks I did not say that first amendment rights should be curtailed. I pointed out, as is Media Matters, that what Fox is doing is dishonest and deceptive. I think ethically they should not be doing this, but I never said they had no legal right to do so.
skathay 1 year ago
@skathay Fox is the major opposition voice to the one party state we now pay our federal taxes to. We need a vigorous opposition voice. Fox in no more and no less deceptive or dishonest than MSNBC, CNN or any other major news source. Why no demand for ethics or honesty from Rachel Maddow or Olbermann? Oh, because they are now pro government spokespersons.
electangorocks 1 year ago
@electango he most certianly does, do you think when Glenn goes on about how we need to fight back and hammer, and "fire" pelosi, he stops and says "but do it peacefully with votes" no. Glenn Beck daily encourages people to go out and threaten and plt to muder any politician he disagrees with.
Shigeru11298 1 year ago
@Shigeru11298 You're the fucking moron here, pal. You want opposition voices silenced because they oppose your Stalinist hero, Hussein Obama. Anyone voices effective criticism of Obama--you twist that criticism to make it seem dangerous to social order. Obama is bootlicking American enemies and inviting them to bash us. He's botched the economy and failed to end the Bush endless wars. Obama is working to make America weaker. What do you find so intoxicating about that?
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electangorocks 1 year ago
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Shigeru11298 1 year ago
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@electangorocks like i said Obama is not a stalnist hero, he only is in the imagination of those who didn't vote for him. you have to continue the myth that Obama is a communist come to destroy america from the top down at any expense, even so much as to make grossly false statement, and when someone points out your falsehoods you immeadiately jump on them accusing them of being brainwashed. you cannot continue with falsehoods and turn them into truth like turning lead into gold
Shigeru11298 1 year ago