Ideally, the car you want looks like the Astra, drives like the Meganne and is built like the Golf. But since that doesn't exist, you've got to have the Golf - it's the best compromise. Either that or the Ford Focus.
The astra is by far the best, just look at it, its the fastest, the steeling and understeer let it down, but your going to get that problem putting so much power in a front wheel drive car
Hey people i have started up a new group on facebook for everyone who loves hot hatchbacks and wish to own one! just search " Hot Hatchbacks Appreciation Group " Thanx!
he's got a point about putting some much power into the front wheels, I've got a Comptech Acura CLS and it pulls, really got to grip that steering wheel, Honda needs to start doing rwd.
this is why i say european cars are over priced and under engineered, a JDM K20 turns out 220HP without the aid of a stupid turbo, ford's focus RS puts more power into the fronts withought that dreadful ubdersteer. these cars would be killed by a NA K20 in a civic or integra, a focus, believe it or not, a cobalt or even a Shitty Racing Technology 4 kids, AKA, SRT4. makes more sence to buy those than thses P.O.S.
lol i know i was just joking, i love the gti. but the ur wrong, the cobalt ss has been called the best handling ff car in the world. it decimated every other fwd car on teh nurburgring. fastest fwd ever
mada88 - I have an old, really old Megane. It's got a small engine and the most sophisticated piece of technology is the £15 CD player I put in it.
But I LOVE IT. It's got fantastic leg room, none of the standard electric luxuries go wrong because...it hasn't got any and the engine bay is HUGE so it's easy to service and fix. You couldn't have better access to the oil filter even if it was sitting in your hand.
As a run around, it's fantastic....according to the 120K on the clock.
lol not a bad review! he highlighted the Astra's problem at the end for a second, its the chassis thats giving it the real problem! i've seen GTI's with over 300hp handle fine (with a little bit of drive train tweaking) but it only works cos the chassis can handle it. The astra's chassis is just too loose and soft imo!
The golf better but for the money you cant go wrong with the VXR, the golf will have better residuals,but you can pick up a ex demo 09 plate vxr for £16k now
i still like the GTI over the other 2. i have seen the GTI in action my self and i know those cars r no joke they cut corners beautifuly and i dnt know wat that dude was doing when he jumped on to the grass that was hes fault cuz in The hottest hatch videos they still call the GTI king of hatchbacks and in top gear they gave in many rewards so id still have to say the Vw GTI.
what you have to remember is that the Golf is more than just a lap time. By all means, they could have supercharged the engine and made it go round the track a couple of seconds faster, but that is avoiding the entire point of having one;
It's Comfort, Practicality, Fuel Economy and Style alone are enough of an attraction to tempt any serious buyer.
But can I add, I do dislike Opel...I'l admit the Astra is probably the best car they ever made and definitely on a parr with the Golf! In fact if it was made by any other German company I would buy it myself...oh and davgar02 i'm embarrassed for you I take it 02 is your date of birth
Ok, this might get confusing... Vauxhall and Pontiac are both owned by GM. The GTO/Monaro is manufactured in Australia by Holden, who is also owned by GM. Make sense?
Holden Australia made two generations of a much coveted muscle car from 1968 to 1977. It was called the Monaro. A new third generation Monaro was produced by Holden between 2001 and 2005. It was an enormous success.
Since Holden is a subsidiary of GM, the Monaro was exported to the European market under the Vauxhall name and to the American market as the Pontiac GTO. It was also exported to South Africa as the Chevrolet Lumina and in the Middle East as the Chevrolet Lumina Coupe.
that is a good option, but it is about 20 grand USED!!! a new GTi is only 1 grand more, a Focus ST is only about 500 quid more, even the RS is only 5 grand more, and the Vauxhall is 900 pounds LESS. VW R32=RIPOFF
vxr anyday my bro gt 1 would run rings around anyhatchbacks and by bthe way the st is wank and megane they cnt get away frm a standars saxo vts till 100!!!
lol.. Im not even surprised that the Astra won the drag race :D the Vectra OPC did the same with its opponents :D and who the fuck cares about understeer??? I would never be able to take it to a racetrack... I wanna race down BMW-s and Merci-s ,Audis and fuckin ricer Jap-craps , and the Opc Astra is the perfect car to do it with! OPEL 4 LIFE!
Which video? Do you mean a Mountune, a standard ST or the RS. All 3 of which are brilliant in there own ways. I've got a Mountune and in a strait line at least it has already made mince meat of an audi S3, the old RS, a mini cooper S, a Golf GTi, Mk4 and Mk5 Golf R32, a VXR, a renault clio sport and both the old and new Civic Type R. It isnt the fastest car in the world. I wouldn't even pretend its the best car out of all that i just listed, i just meant that it's the fastest in a drag race.
Oh yea, that one. Jeremy loved it, said he liked it better than the VXR. Also, i dunno if you've read evo mag but it turns out that not only is the mountune faster than the cars i listed there, but it gets to 130 mph quicker than the NEW RS focus, probably more but they ran out of track. Which is very funny when you consider you can get a 2 year old mountune ST3 for half the price, and again, is more economical and more comfortable.
lol lucky for these 3 mfrs the wrx wagon is not considered a 'hot hatch' because of its 4doors+hatch, else they would all have gone home crying in their pints!! lol
....because Vauxhall isn't a company in the US, GM isn't changing any names, they have the rights to sell that car in the US so they badge it as a Saturn.
Out of all the hot hatches with 200+bhp today the vauxhall would be my last choice, just knowing how much understeer it had would drive me mad, nippy responsive handling is as important as power in these cars in my opinion.
1st - Focus ST (facelift)
2nd - Golf GTi (mk7)
3rd - Megane Sport 225 (new)
4th - Astra VXR
The focus offers up the looks and speed of the VXR with decent handling like the Renault and a civilised drive like the Golf, i think it's the best compromise.
waait, aren't all of those cars just sensless? Think of any of those, your first choice - Focus for instance. It may be fast, but it's stil a Ford Focus! wouldn't it anoy you that you spend sooo much money on such a car? why not to buy something much better for the same money. I don't know what the prices where you live are, but you'd be albe to afford a 3 or 4-year old BMW, probabely.
Not at all, hot hatches are all about people who enjoy a quick drive up a country road but also the comfort of a family car for long journeys, some offer up half the performance of a high market super car yet still having a huge boot, room for the kids, a high safery rating and for near enough pocket money, BMW's are all about class and prestige, brilliant car's but you can get the same if not more performance with Fords and the likes, sure, they arent as well built, but just as good to drive...
well, doesn't the BMW series 3 give you comfort of a family car for long journeys, room in the boot and the cabin, and waay better handling? rear wheel drive really makes a huge difference. And you're a BMW owner. How does it feel compared to having a Ford, Opel/Vauxhall or VW?
Yeh i agree with you there, you don't get the badge but for the same money the BMW would be not be as good in the performance department, if BMW were as good performance wise then it can sometimes add £5,000-£10,000 to the costs which like myself and many others cannot afford. Depends what appeals to you, personally i think £20k for a 220bhp+ good looking , good handling, spacious reliable hot hatch is fantastic.
Ideally, the car you want looks like the Vauxhall, drives like the Renault and is built like the VW. Since you can't have that, buy the Golf - it's the best all round compromise.
I totally agree, but i think there is maybe a better compromise still, the Focus ST. It has the Good bits of all 3, power, fun, build and looks without the drawbacks, build quality, blandness, handling. The focus offers up all the thrills without the spills :)
Focus ST is a very nice car, and the new RS is fantastic as well. But there's a new Mk VI GTI coming, which looks pretty impressive. Will the Focus still be King of the Hatchbacks? Watch this space...
the RS is not the king of hatchbacks ,well dunno if you are talking about performance a mere megane R26R is way faster on a track anyway the golf VI GTI is out , but the ultimate version is not out it Code name Golf R20 with 270HP with thr same 2L Tfsi
I wasn't just talking about performance. OK, the Megane R26R is quicker on a track, but it doesn't have any luxuries, it only has 2 seats, and it doesn't have a boot. The idea of a hot hatchback is that it's fast and practical - the Focus and Golf are, the megane R26R just does speed.
that is way i said you should precise in term of what for me the old golf markV GTI still the best overall (the golf is more sober , better quality and well built than the RS )
like i ve mentioned before is not out yet it will be soon probably for the next year , it is the replacement of the current R32 but instead of having the 3.2l V6 it will have the same 2L from the GTI more precisely from the S3 with a little boost to have 270HP
its not out yet -_- the r20 is due to launch in september and october, this is old, a few years back, i dont think the vw r32 was introduced back then
We'll see.. i don't think it's performance this car is missing, it's prescence, it definitely deliver's from behind the wheel and also living with on a day to day basis but if it was sat in the car park next to someone's bright orange ST or arden blue VXR you would be left feeling a tad jealous.. i would anyway.
I understand what you mean, but every time I see a VXR or ST I can't help but think "gads". Too loud, brash and 'look at me'. Somehow the Renault and the Golf are more understated - if that's what you want.
Yeh that's also true, depends how you look at it and also what you find appealing. I'm at the tender age of 20 still so a bright orange ST is right up my street but if i was say 40 or so i'd probably be looking at the more civlized golf's. Still, i prefer the overall package on the Focus and it doesn't have to be bright orange, what about blue or black.. it'd be a tough choice as i am a Ford man but the Golf would definetely be my second choice, then the renault etc...
The only one you can even buy in N. America is the GTI. The Astra is here as a Saturn but 2 things: Saturn just got sold to Rodger Penske and #2: You can't get a turbo'ed 2.0.. the Astra Redline was supposed to come over, but who knows anymore? As far as this review's concerned, the GTI would be a more fun car. Plus I'm possibly buying one.. so who knows.
golfs are boring and not that fast prefer the megane maybe cos i hae one!!!
hectorc01 2 years ago
Ideally, the car you want looks like the Astra, drives like the Meganne and is built like the Golf. But since that doesn't exist, you've got to have the Golf - it's the best compromise. Either that or the Ford Focus.
NobleM15fan 2 years ago
GOLF 5 TDI 4MOTION , GOLF 5 R32
ATGT5 2 years ago
the golf is the most beautiful!
jeanyves9 2 years ago 2
I've the Astra, very good car
marcogasopc 2 years ago
They should have thrown the Alfa 147 in there to represent Italy. And yes, I know that car got it's own segment already.
Monacomaverick 2 years ago
good music at 0:42
Domenias 2 years ago
I'll have the Megane
doraemon8061 2 years ago
4:40 good music ;)
szopi77 2 years ago
I'd have the Golf.
enisijzer 2 years ago 4
i think a nice golf gti in white and leather seats is the best looking
sebsdabomb 2 years ago
5:46 Chewbacca sound xD XD XD lol
swalenko 2 years ago 4
THIS was the Astra that Saturn should have gotten.
Falcon5768 2 years ago
animal farm reference! :D
Nfildate333 2 years ago
Jezzas doin a russian accent not a french! lol
LILARAB19921312 2 years ago
The astra is by far the best, just look at it, its the fastest, the steeling and understeer let it down, but your going to get that problem putting so much power in a front wheel drive car
jim6000 2 years ago
well done for just typing what Jezza said.
MrCrisDay 2 years ago
thanks, you probably dont even know how to drive or even own a car you poor pikey
jim6000 2 years ago
the pikey comment really made me laugh
but yeah i drive, own my own vehicle and visit tracks as often as time allows
MrCrisDay 2 years ago
which tracks?
jim6000 2 years ago
I think that the Golf is still the best hot hatch only because is a German car.
badassbaca 2 years ago
BIG BUM ON MAGANE
Glesgagirl75 2 years ago
I think the renault megane is the best. Maybe because I've got one :)
kornix97 2 years ago 4
lol maybe ur just biased :P
KiwiKid4Lyf 2 years ago
epic ending
pagslinas 2 years ago
RENAULT FARKI
iceboys 2 years ago
Hey people i have started up a new group on facebook for everyone who loves hot hatchbacks and wish to own one! just search " Hot Hatchbacks Appreciation Group " Thanx!
djmakaveli 2 years ago
he's got a point about putting some much power into the front wheels, I've got a Comptech Acura CLS and it pulls, really got to grip that steering wheel, Honda needs to start doing rwd.
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They do. Check out the S2000.
jaxvon 2 years ago
The reno - French bucket
gas221272 2 years ago
the reno is actually spelled renault. -.-
learn your cars bud
Gooshnads 2 years ago
this is why i say european cars are over priced and under engineered, a JDM K20 turns out 220HP without the aid of a stupid turbo, ford's focus RS puts more power into the fronts withought that dreadful ubdersteer. these cars would be killed by a NA K20 in a civic or integra, a focus, believe it or not, a cobalt or even a Shitty Racing Technology 4 kids, AKA, SRT4. makes more sence to buy those than thses P.O.S.
BYCURE213 2 years ago
Renault is fantastic, is the best HHBs in my opinion, the experience is incredible! Congrats Renault for the BestCar! =)
PSAXU10J4RS 2 years ago
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cobalt ss would destroy all of them
roytboga 2 years ago
its american so it allways break, the vw is the best
matawin2 2 years ago 2
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and vw has good reliability? wrong! its worse then any american brand, ok except maybe chrysler
roytboga 2 years ago
The Cobalt is NOT a hatchback.
Petersworld518 2 years ago
yes my friend, yes it would. by a long shot!! fuck a hatch. cobalt ss all the way!
cobaltsaregay 2 years ago
Colbat ss is a great car but they were talking about hatchbacks.
Ukuuuuuu 2 years ago
the best hatch out is the k20a civic si.
cobaltsaregay 2 years ago
LOL are u serious...cobalt ss isnt even a hatchback... the back looks like shit and it's got the handling capability of an elephant
Gooshnads 2 years ago 5
lol i know i was just joking, i love the gti. but the ur wrong, the cobalt ss has been called the best handling ff car in the world. it decimated every other fwd car on teh nurburgring. fastest fwd ever
roytboga 2 years ago
the world fwd record in nurburgring is the astra opc/vxr-8.35 second in 2005
cbr600rrtugaboy 2 years ago
I agree the vw is best, but I would take the R32 model, not the GTI
alexandcheetahs 2 years ago 2
vw rulles not less not more...
blower069 2 years ago
and its good if you wanna go left....haha
sabahanboy 2 years ago
I don't think the megane is faster its a fact that it is faster.
mada88 2 years ago
WTF? the man who knew fuck all more like. The megane is faster than a shitty golf gti I ment wtf r u goin on about u daft twat.
mada88 2 years ago 2
lol very coherent sentence there buddy.
All i got out of that was that you think the megane is faster than the golf...
Gooshnads 2 years ago
Golfs are boring old mans cars. Megane shits all over it.
mada88 2 years ago
mada88 - I have an old, really old Megane. It's got a small engine and the most sophisticated piece of technology is the £15 CD player I put in it.
But I LOVE IT. It's got fantastic leg room, none of the standard electric luxuries go wrong because...it hasn't got any and the engine bay is HUGE so it's easy to service and fix. You couldn't have better access to the oil filter even if it was sitting in your hand.
As a run around, it's fantastic....according to the 120K on the clock.
themanwhoknew 2 years ago
for me golf had and has a boring design it looks to round for me :\
Guitarnoob99 2 years ago
i would have the astra
91buster 2 years ago
old mans golf cart
mada88 2 years ago
Golf cant go round corners like the megane
mada88 2 years ago
lol not a bad review! he highlighted the Astra's problem at the end for a second, its the chassis thats giving it the real problem! i've seen GTI's with over 300hp handle fine (with a little bit of drive train tweaking) but it only works cos the chassis can handle it. The astra's chassis is just too loose and soft imo!
chenzo717 2 years ago
i chose the golf in a million years is a amazing car
goollthebest 2 years ago
Vauxhall is a Opel with the Steering wheel at the right, Vauxhall is impossible to buy in the rest of the world.
megadriver1 2 years ago 3
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that thing is almost as fast as a boxster!!!
qwertisdirty 2 years ago
The golf better but for the money you cant go wrong with the VXR, the golf will have better residuals,but you can pick up a ex demo 09 plate vxr for £16k now
olly2383 2 years ago
i still like the GTI over the other 2. i have seen the GTI in action my self and i know those cars r no joke they cut corners beautifuly and i dnt know wat that dude was doing when he jumped on to the grass that was hes fault cuz in The hottest hatch videos they still call the GTI king of hatchbacks and in top gear they gave in many rewards so id still have to say the Vw GTI.
NickPushka 2 years ago
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Golf has style! lmao its an old mans car. The megane is the best hot hatch. Astra VXR is just shite.
mada88 2 years ago
what you have to remember is that the Golf is more than just a lap time. By all means, they could have supercharged the engine and made it go round the track a couple of seconds faster, but that is avoiding the entire point of having one;
It's Comfort, Practicality, Fuel Economy and Style alone are enough of an attraction to tempt any serious buyer.
ConradMcBad 2 years ago
"that is torque steering the car... and its GOOD if you want to go left" hahaha
mickeybrenneman 2 years ago 4
But can I add, I do dislike Opel...I'l admit the Astra is probably the best car they ever made and definitely on a parr with the Golf! In fact if it was made by any other German company I would buy it myself...oh and davgar02 i'm embarrassed for you I take it 02 is your date of birth
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yeah well obviously your just saying that cause your a golf arse licker!!! its in the name GTI <<< SilverBullet! ha cracks me up
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davgar02 2 years ago
so basically it all ends up as
1 Golf = good all round
2 Astra = you end up in a ditch (and only as strong as a remapped golf anyway)
3 Megane = well its a renault if you buy it your helping the french!! and they can't do anything right
GTISilverBullet 2 years ago
what do you think ? that you cant remap a astra ?
you wont end up in a ditch only if you go around a track more than 2sec faster than the golf, wich is ALLOT
ive driven allot of times in a megane and they are the best handling hatchback cars i have ever driven
golf is just a hype , the renault is plain better , and allot
i dont like the french to , but the germans are verry well know for doing verry bad things
supermotardmario 2 years ago
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GTISilverBullet 2 years ago
fcource everyone has his own oppinion on it
but the only nice car (visual) is the astra
ok , golf an megane are not pretty cars , but im only talking about performance in handling on the renault
and thats where a car shines , in handling , noone likes to compete on straight ends with a car that has less than 300HP
for the looks and engine , id go with the astra
for the handling , id go with the megane (wich isnt ugly imo)
i wouldnt buy one out of 3 of those cars myself btw
supermotardmario 2 years ago
he sounds like Borat: I LIKE THAT VERY MUCH!
sprite0nation 2 years ago
I hate the new Mk6 Golf GTI bcuz the cool front grills from the Mk5 is gone........
imnameless07 2 years ago
i prefer the vw
teo2369 2 years ago
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what about a mustang
tippmannc3 2 years ago
Are Vauxhall and Pontiac made by the same ppl? cuz the Menario looks just like a GTO and the
seejay1990 2 years ago
Ok, this might get confusing... Vauxhall and Pontiac are both owned by GM. The GTO/Monaro is manufactured in Australia by Holden, who is also owned by GM. Make sense?
lattelxi 2 years ago 2
Perfect sense. :P
Keruaran 2 years ago
Holden Australia made two generations of a much coveted muscle car from 1968 to 1977. It was called the Monaro. A new third generation Monaro was produced by Holden between 2001 and 2005. It was an enormous success.
Since Holden is a subsidiary of GM, the Monaro was exported to the European market under the Vauxhall name and to the American market as the Pontiac GTO. It was also exported to South Africa as the Chevrolet Lumina and in the Middle East as the Chevrolet Lumina Coupe.
Keruaran 2 years ago
Whats this got to do with anything?
olly2383 2 years ago
Read it in the context of the thread its part of stupid.
Keruaran 2 years ago
please!!! someone tell me whats the name of the song at 4:40???
btw...the astra its a very nice car :)
phoenix1359 2 years ago
volkswagen GTI '05 best hatchback ever
jorgekjdnvjdnbvdjnbk 2 years ago 2
the Vauxhall is the best looking, then the VolksWagen, and last the ugly Renault..
S01NOR 2 years ago 4
Renault Sport , is the best!
Rushdie04 2 years ago
Oh come on, Manuel Reuter make the record time on Nürburgring that makes Astra VXR/OPC the fastest hot hach. Obviously the FWD is not a problem.
DogiDD 2 years ago 2
I think the astra looks the nicest
123456789hellboy 2 years ago 3
stuff those cars...i want a 2009 focus rs...with307 bhp ect...
jaffacake1578 2 years ago
Why doesn't saturn get a hint and bring that vxr over to the US? I really like our cobalt ss alot, but I think the astra vxr would be a cool sleeper.
P51mustang00 2 years ago
renault's back is ugly
gery238 2 years ago 8
Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I rather like it.
44lucas 2 years ago 4
dude just find a civic ek9 o.O
tahoe2525 2 years ago
or a nice EP3 :)
jflexe99 2 years ago
opel would cost you cheaper at the maintaining and for the fuel but a vw is more better than an opel
got to say that my father has an opel astra h with 94 hp, 4 doors and 1.4 liter engine
anetoiu 2 years ago
just find a Peugeot 205 GTI, thay are allot more interesting then these cars. :)
Eldoro82 2 years ago
The Megane seems to be the best. it has a great balance between normal driving, and speed. just dont get the old hot megane. the Mk 1 was utter crap
bullet50000 2 years ago
Just get a VW Golf V R32
keelsies00 2 years ago
that is a good option, but it is about 20 grand USED!!! a new GTi is only 1 grand more, a Focus ST is only about 500 quid more, even the RS is only 5 grand more, and the Vauxhall is 900 pounds LESS. VW R32=RIPOFF
bullet50000 2 years ago
or spend 3,000 US on a beefy C2 turbo on your 2.5 MkV golf and blow all of these cars including the GTI out of the water? sounds like a plan
OMWagghhh 2 years ago
But you'll make them cry... :)
Ive seen some 2.5 twin turbos at Waterfest, crazy.
blueweb25 2 years ago
they really are amazing, people dont realize what an amazing piece of hardware VW's 2.5s are
OMWagghhh 2 years ago
you are garbage i hope someone find a gun and kill you with a shot in the center of your fucking head AHAHA OPEL = SHIT
RafaLisbon1986 2 years ago
vxr anyday my bro gt 1 would run rings around anyhatchbacks and by bthe way the st is wank and megane they cnt get away frm a standars saxo vts till 100!!!
scotty2hotty1989 2 years ago
vauxhall is shit
RafaLisbon1986 2 years ago
astra is so crap
RafaLisbon1986 2 years ago
if you're looking for a hot hatch just get the GTI
ymaniac07 2 years ago
La Honda Civic Type R è la migliore......................come al solito top gear preferisce le tedesche
andrew8haha 2 years ago
lol.. Im not even surprised that the Astra won the drag race :D the Vectra OPC did the same with its opponents :D and who the fuck cares about understeer??? I would never be able to take it to a racetrack... I wanna race down BMW-s and Merci-s ,Audis and fuckin ricer Jap-craps , and the Opc Astra is the perfect car to do it with! OPEL 4 LIFE!
Sanyey 2 years ago
The golf is the best, i tried an astra and a golf. You must learn to drive a car, and then you can have a true competition.
1810146 2 years ago 2
have you tried the Megane?
bullet50000 2 years ago
no i didn't, but if i had to chose in the renault cars, i wouldn't chose any car in this kind of...
i think renault is more comfortable, and sometimes cheaper....
1810146 2 years ago
A standard ST is faster than a civic, easy.
Fisherdaz1 2 years ago
And yet, the Focus ST Mountune would piss rings round the lot of them, faster, more economical, more comfortable and more practical.
Fisherdaz1 2 years ago
I believe they also test a Focus in another video on youtube.
bully129 2 years ago
Which video? Do you mean a Mountune, a standard ST or the RS. All 3 of which are brilliant in there own ways. I've got a Mountune and in a strait line at least it has already made mince meat of an audi S3, the old RS, a mini cooper S, a Golf GTi, Mk4 and Mk5 Golf R32, a VXR, a renault clio sport and both the old and new Civic Type R. It isnt the fastest car in the world. I wouldn't even pretend its the best car out of all that i just listed, i just meant that it's the fastest in a drag race.
Fisherdaz1 2 years ago
I believe it says Top Gear- Ford Focus ST . It's on the Top Gear playlist, I saw it about 20 minutes ago, skipped over it for this video
bully129 2 years ago
Oh yea, that one. Jeremy loved it, said he liked it better than the VXR. Also, i dunno if you've read evo mag but it turns out that not only is the mountune faster than the cars i listed there, but it gets to 130 mph quicker than the NEW RS focus, probably more but they ran out of track. Which is very funny when you consider you can get a 2 year old mountune ST3 for half the price, and again, is more economical and more comfortable.
Fisherdaz1 2 years ago
git is bets is Germany car
beste
TheBawany1 2 years ago
learn to spell you dumb cunt!
djmakaveli 2 years ago
lol lucky for these 3 mfrs the wrx wagon is not considered a 'hot hatch' because of its 4doors+hatch, else they would all have gone home crying in their pints!! lol
Deredeo 2 years ago
so the VW diden't win ha you fucking moron. Ford paid you right ?
m1rchegfn 2 years ago
It did win ! WV the best!
1JORDANAS 2 years ago
R26 is the best!
AlbaKing75 2 years ago
sorry the vauxhall is as boring as a white piece of paper
damiannerd 2 years ago
that looks like the Saturn Astra Why is GM changeing the names of there cars
zoneracer 2 years ago
....because Vauxhall isn't a company in the US, GM isn't changing any names, they have the rights to sell that car in the US so they badge it as a Saturn.
DonLanza 2 years ago
I was told that GM owns vauxhall is that true.
i went to the vauxhall web site to look at the cars all most all of them look like Buicks or Saturns and Pontiacs.
zoneracer 2 years ago
they do, but Vauxhall isn't a brand in the US and Buick/Saturn/Pontiac aren't brands in Europe so they rebadge things.
DonSLK 2 years ago
Because Saturn doesn't excists in Europe, and Vauxhall does in the UK. In the rest of Europe it's called Opel.
snowbox22 2 years ago 4
Out of all the hot hatches with 200+bhp today the vauxhall would be my last choice, just knowing how much understeer it had would drive me mad, nippy responsive handling is as important as power in these cars in my opinion.
1st - Focus ST (facelift)
2nd - Golf GTi (mk7)
3rd - Megane Sport 225 (new)
4th - Astra VXR
The focus offers up the looks and speed of the VXR with decent handling like the Renault and a civilised drive like the Golf, i think it's the best compromise.
RSTdave88 2 years ago
waait, aren't all of those cars just sensless? Think of any of those, your first choice - Focus for instance. It may be fast, but it's stil a Ford Focus! wouldn't it anoy you that you spend sooo much money on such a car? why not to buy something much better for the same money. I don't know what the prices where you live are, but you'd be albe to afford a 3 or 4-year old BMW, probabely.
WatchingMamut 2 years ago
Not at all, hot hatches are all about people who enjoy a quick drive up a country road but also the comfort of a family car for long journeys, some offer up half the performance of a high market super car yet still having a huge boot, room for the kids, a high safery rating and for near enough pocket money, BMW's are all about class and prestige, brilliant car's but you can get the same if not more performance with Fords and the likes, sure, they arent as well built, but just as good to drive...
RSTdave88 2 years ago
what about the golf. it's the best car and very affordable.
driftnut56 2 years ago 4
well, doesn't the BMW series 3 give you comfort of a family car for long journeys, room in the boot and the cabin, and waay better handling? rear wheel drive really makes a huge difference. And you're a BMW owner. How does it feel compared to having a Ford, Opel/Vauxhall or VW?
WatchingMamut 2 years ago
Yeh i agree with you there, you don't get the badge but for the same money the BMW would be not be as good in the performance department, if BMW were as good performance wise then it can sometimes add £5,000-£10,000 to the costs which like myself and many others cannot afford. Depends what appeals to you, personally i think £20k for a 220bhp+ good looking , good handling, spacious reliable hot hatch is fantastic.
RSTdave88 2 years ago
cakey cakes with shoes. cant believe your watching the same vid as me he he
JonnyGTi180 2 years ago
hahaha, hello mr J40NYR lol
RSTdave88 2 years ago
It's an Opel what did you expect?
Isus666999 2 years ago
u cant put that much power in a front wheel drive its just crap
KiwiKid4Lyf 2 years ago 2
Focus RS? not crap
ApocketrocketzA 2 years ago
love my candy white mkv ...VW ftw
whycantibefree 2 years ago
Jeremy Clarkson is soooooooo sexy for a middle aged man.
unhappy4life9 2 years ago
ermm okay
dilawer321 2 years ago
wow
greddyboi 2 years ago
My tercel has torque steer -_- I always have to correct the wheel from a stop
noxvet 2 years ago
Oh yeah and vauxhal Fuck Off, rubbish Holden. The original.
Jameziiboii 2 years ago
Try WRX STI a Hsv VXR and a Golf gti r32 if u want a hot hatch back competition
Jameziiboii 2 years ago
he sounds like borat when hes testing the megane! LOL
prsche911 2 years ago
all the type Rs on their japanese versions are the best when it comes to track.
InitialDAmine 2 years ago
Bravo is better
missionkid 2 years ago
do they have no Opels on that goddam island&
ziswise 2 years ago 3
They are called Vauxhall's over here.
Petchhyy 2 years ago
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iNfx1 2 years ago
golf and megan i like much
like the previouse type r
the new is rubbish even top gear showed it
Ouwtlawzzz 2 years ago
only the europeen version is rubbish the japanese one is amazing well if you want a performance car more focused on the track
InitialDAmine 2 years ago
Ideally, the car you want looks like the Vauxhall, drives like the Renault and is built like the VW. Since you can't have that, buy the Golf - it's the best all round compromise.
NobleM15fan 2 years ago
I totally agree, but i think there is maybe a better compromise still, the Focus ST. It has the Good bits of all 3, power, fun, build and looks without the drawbacks, build quality, blandness, handling. The focus offers up all the thrills without the spills :)
RSTdave88 2 years ago
Focus ST is a very nice car, and the new RS is fantastic as well. But there's a new Mk VI GTI coming, which looks pretty impressive. Will the Focus still be King of the Hatchbacks? Watch this space...
NobleM15fan 2 years ago
the RS is not the king of hatchbacks ,well dunno if you are talking about performance a mere megane R26R is way faster on a track anyway the golf VI GTI is out , but the ultimate version is not out it Code name Golf R20 with 270HP with thr same 2L Tfsi
InitialDAmine 2 years ago
I wasn't just talking about performance. OK, the Megane R26R is quicker on a track, but it doesn't have any luxuries, it only has 2 seats, and it doesn't have a boot. The idea of a hot hatchback is that it's fast and practical - the Focus and Golf are, the megane R26R just does speed.
NobleM15fan 2 years ago
that is way i said you should precise in term of what for me the old golf markV GTI still the best overall (the golf is more sober , better quality and well built than the RS )
InitialDAmine 2 years ago
where is the golf r20?
yourfast07 2 years ago
like i ve mentioned before is not out yet it will be soon probably for the next year , it is the replacement of the current R32 but instead of having the 3.2l V6 it will have the same 2L from the GTI more precisely from the S3 with a little boost to have 270HP
InitialDAmine 2 years ago
its not out yet -_- the r20 is due to launch in september and october, this is old, a few years back, i dont think the vw r32 was introduced back then
Caseybat94 2 years ago
nvm the r32 was already introduced, but im sure the r20 is being introduced at some autoshow next year
Caseybat94 2 years ago
We'll see.. i don't think it's performance this car is missing, it's prescence, it definitely deliver's from behind the wheel and also living with on a day to day basis but if it was sat in the car park next to someone's bright orange ST or arden blue VXR you would be left feeling a tad jealous.. i would anyway.
RSTdave88 2 years ago
I understand what you mean, but every time I see a VXR or ST I can't help but think "gads". Too loud, brash and 'look at me'. Somehow the Renault and the Golf are more understated - if that's what you want.
theberengersniper 2 years ago
Yeh that's also true, depends how you look at it and also what you find appealing. I'm at the tender age of 20 still so a bright orange ST is right up my street but if i was say 40 or so i'd probably be looking at the more civlized golf's. Still, i prefer the overall package on the Focus and it doesn't have to be bright orange, what about blue or black.. it'd be a tough choice as i am a Ford man but the Golf would definetely be my second choice, then the renault etc...
RSTdave88 2 years ago
mazdaspeed 3> all hatches
Crazy4mazdaspeed 2 years ago
Viva VW! ♥♥
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YouSoldMe 2 years ago
I dont like the new Mk5 gti I like the mk4
gravityhammer25 2 years ago
The only one you can even buy in N. America is the GTI. The Astra is here as a Saturn but 2 things: Saturn just got sold to Rodger Penske and #2: You can't get a turbo'ed 2.0.. the Astra Redline was supposed to come over, but who knows anymore? As far as this review's concerned, the GTI would be a more fun car. Plus I'm possibly buying one.. so who knows.
stc2008lt 2 years ago
how do we actually reduce tat torque steer on tat astra vxr? put in a LSD? detuned the engine?
wan1985 2 years ago
haha, 6:49
jigajoe 2 years ago
hey, my uncle has that ferrari
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