Bankruptcy filings show generous pay for relatives of Crystal Cathedral founder
As revenue plummeted at the Garden Grove mega-church this year, and employees and vendors went without pay, the church paid more than $1.8 million to 23 insiders and Schuller relatives.
These people need to worry about whats in their own backyard. They are bankrupt by MILLIONS. They don't pay vendors- yet "family" members are well compensated. Those who live in GLASS CHURCHES should not throw stones. Great job MS.
I totally agree that you can't love someone you don't know. This mumbo jumbo that is spouted all the time about "I love you....." but....is BS. That seems to justify so much in the minds of so many bigots. Good job taking him on.
It's very sad to see this guy really believes what he belives is right about discrimiation. No matter how politely you put it, discrimiation will never be polite!
Well wasn't he just the nicest "i don't like gay people" thumper-guy ever. I imagine he thought "hey, if I just politely say 'I don't agree with homosexuality' I'm going to be a big hit."
While it's admittedly better than the alternative, still, get fucked.
John: "I don't agree with homosexuality." That's like saying "I don't agree with lefthandedness." It doesn't make sense. John, did you ever consider that gay people and their sex lives aren't here for you to agree or disagree "with." You are arrogant+judgemental. I don't spend time railing against what I guess/perceive is your sexual orientation/behavior. I am not so arrogant to make it my business to "agree" or disagree with your sexuality. Homoloathing is a choice. Choose equality and respect.
Good, in the last few years I've noticed that people are FINALLY calling Bigots, Bigots, and not letting them use the excuse of their religion to avoid the lable. I don't care why a person feels the way they do, but if their church tells them to not like minorities...guess what, they are still racists. Same with gays, I don't care if it's what their church tells them, they are still hateful bigots.
I always tell this to people, You will not be able to even have a conversation with people like this, until they UNDERSTAND and ACCEPT the fact that there is a difference between sexual acts and one's ORIENTATION, something we know from childhood on.
That is this caller's problem. They are so so fixated on sexual acts instead of understanding the truth about orientation being inherent.
I am part of the lgbt community and i really get fed up with those who are not part of that community telling ME, I need to and can change my sexuality and preferences. I'ts intersting..its always ME that needs to do the work and change. the focus is always on the gays to change-the anti heterosexals don't need changed as much is what they keep inferring to me.
I am so happy to hear this conversation. Mike is saying the same things I would love to say but lack the patience and intelect to express properly. THANK YOU!!!!
You can't try to be rational with these people, because they've been indoctrinated into religion throughout their entire lives.
I would rather had Mike challenge him on his belief that people choose their sexual orientation. Obviously the caller is getting this information from his church.
I don't know you, I haven't met you, but I think I can safely say, that were I to meet you, and get to know you, that I'd truly love you. You're awesome!
He does love you. He loves everyone, even Muamar Qadaffi, even Hitler who's currently with Ghandi in Hell. It's just that for him love has no particular content. Next time you talk to one of these, ask them what it means to love. If I get a chance first, I'll ask.
Oh my god that was like...the same thing over and over again but with paraphrasing. :(
ohgoodlord 11 months ago
"I am a thinker... of my own."
Sure you are, John-boy. *pat pat*
Allensmackerman 11 months ago
"BUT I LOVE YOU GUYS... MAN... YO, DIGGITY. YOU GUYS ARE BROTH-- COUSI--- DISTANT FRIENDS."
Oh god, you can just see the guy fumbling. It's like every one of those words is a hot poker against the roof of his mouth.
Allensmackerman 11 months ago
Way to go! Very nice job, I must have more! #NOH8
PaulLeary 11 months ago
The problem with religious nuts is that they distort the word "love".
To them it just means "I apply my rules onto you".
rg0057 11 months ago 2
Bankruptcy filings show generous pay for relatives of Crystal Cathedral founder
As revenue plummeted at the Garden Grove mega-church this year, and employees and vendors went without pay, the church paid more than $1.8 million to 23 insiders and Schuller relatives.
sh8dyslim4 11 months ago
These people need to worry about whats in their own backyard. They are bankrupt by MILLIONS. They don't pay vendors- yet "family" members are well compensated. Those who live in GLASS CHURCHES should not throw stones. Great job MS.
sh8dyslim4 11 months ago
I totally agree that you can't love someone you don't know. This mumbo jumbo that is spouted all the time about "I love you....." but....is BS. That seems to justify so much in the minds of so many bigots. Good job taking him on.
BelleRita 11 months ago
It's very sad to see this guy really believes what he belives is right about discrimiation. No matter how politely you put it, discrimiation will never be polite!
lanpuen 11 months ago
Well wasn't he just the nicest "i don't like gay people" thumper-guy ever. I imagine he thought "hey, if I just politely say 'I don't agree with homosexuality' I'm going to be a big hit."
While it's admittedly better than the alternative, still, get fucked.
ktxlld 11 months ago
PLEASE AUTOTUNE THIS AND MAKE IT THE REAL GAY ANTHEM!
carr10 11 months ago
John: "I don't agree with homosexuality." That's like saying "I don't agree with lefthandedness." It doesn't make sense. John, did you ever consider that gay people and their sex lives aren't here for you to agree or disagree "with." You are arrogant+judgemental. I don't spend time railing against what I guess/perceive is your sexual orientation/behavior. I am not so arrogant to make it my business to "agree" or disagree with your sexuality. Homoloathing is a choice. Choose equality and respect.
seahorse05 11 months ago 14
I think words mean different things to fundamentalist religious people. I think we're speaking different languages.
MaryJesusJoseph 11 months ago
“Anyone who claims God is on their side is dangerous as hell"
Rumake 11 months ago
What does "I don't agree with homosexuality" mean? You may not aprove but it's not up to you to agree or disagree.
MaryJesusJoseph 11 months ago
Good, in the last few years I've noticed that people are FINALLY calling Bigots, Bigots, and not letting them use the excuse of their religion to avoid the lable. I don't care why a person feels the way they do, but if their church tells them to not like minorities...guess what, they are still racists. Same with gays, I don't care if it's what their church tells them, they are still hateful bigots.
cambelcambel 11 months ago
Spot on Michelangelo.
I always tell this to people, You will not be able to even have a conversation with people like this, until they UNDERSTAND and ACCEPT the fact that there is a difference between sexual acts and one's ORIENTATION, something we know from childhood on.
That is this caller's problem. They are so so fixated on sexual acts instead of understanding the truth about orientation being inherent.
mpbndc 11 months ago 2
I am part of the lgbt community and i really get fed up with those who are not part of that community telling ME, I need to and can change my sexuality and preferences. I'ts intersting..its always ME that needs to do the work and change. the focus is always on the gays to change-the anti heterosexals don't need changed as much is what they keep inferring to me.
kerry1053 11 months ago
I am so happy to hear this conversation. Mike is saying the same things I would love to say but lack the patience and intelect to express properly. THANK YOU!!!!
pamelasund102408 11 months ago
You can't try to be rational with these people, because they've been indoctrinated into religion throughout their entire lives.
I would rather had Mike challenge him on his belief that people choose their sexual orientation. Obviously the caller is getting this information from his church.
hbfarker 11 months ago
I don't know you, I haven't met you, but I think I can safely say, that were I to meet you, and get to know you, that I'd truly love you. You're awesome!
sipeleska 11 months ago 2
He does love you. He loves everyone, even Muamar Qadaffi, even Hitler who's currently with Ghandi in Hell. It's just that for him love has no particular content. Next time you talk to one of these, ask them what it means to love. If I get a chance first, I'll ask.
abmindprof 11 months ago
"I am sorry your beliefs system doesn't match mine."
Yeah, asshole. You're just another fucking Christian bigot.
bearchewtoy75 11 months ago 7
Fuckin' A Mike!
bearchewtoy75 11 months ago 2
AMEN, Michaelangelo.
EPRVa62 11 months ago 2
He caught you on a good day. lol
CrazyTee33 11 months ago 2
I love the eye roll you do in the beginning. That O please look.
CrazyTee33 11 months ago