normally i do not support torture, but look at it this way: you're a soldier and a POW you captured has vital information that could save hundreds of lives. i'm going to get that info out of him by any means necessary, even if i have to use torture.
I've seen the different methods. I don't care what they consider it. THAT IS TORTURE! Even Mancow Muller who said it wasn't for 7 years said it was after being waterboarded for 4 seconds. Those who don't consider it torture should have it done then comment.
The sad part is the only reason why we are not legally considering it torture is because we are the ones doing it. So much for the moral high ground we claim to stand on. Thanks for clearing the air on your take on it. Glad we agree
Imagine the Taliban talking about this whether it'd be immoral. Water boarding our beloved armed forces to find out where the American WMD's are. Torture is illegal.
this wasnt done right lmfao. youre supposed to elevate the person so their feet are higher than the head. then place a thin cloth over the mmouth and nose so when they breath in they suck in moisture as to cause the sensation of drowning. all they did was stick a rag in his mouth and wet it lmfao
@ghsbbqftw You're right. They didn't do it correctly and they used a Seal. Nobody out there has enough experience like a Seal. They should have gotten a citizen who volunteered. And the thin cloth technique you said is true, they just stuck a cloth in the mouth and hoped it would work, which is why he lasted so long too. I'm just saying. I don't this for a living or follow it, but read enough that they didn't do it right. So yeah. Peace.
@MsBarsch you will never get them all... if you dont change the way you americans treat the rest of the world then your "war on terror" will be like cutting of one of the hydra's heads: there are 7 heads growing instead of the one you cut off. but i dont think that you will ever get it...
Some bomb cities. Others bomb back. Ones cut a hand and the others torture as well. People can't see the truth if they were taught to hate since they were little. Well everyone arguing here is an idiot and all of your arguments are fucking dumb. I'm not in either sides of these parties.
If the TALIBAN can cut off voters hands, kill women for adultery, and behead for changing religions, I think we can pour a little water on their faces without getting called American pigs.
@MetalSights well i think that you can NOT pour a little water on anyones face because thats simply not right. if someone has killed lots of people then shot him in the face. but when you torture people they would say anything you want them to even if it is not right...
@Oneninetybeats Well, then they should not have conspired to kill dozens or even hundreds of people. The information obtained can save lives on the US's side and on the Afgan's innocent people side.
Remember, the Taliban do not limit their murders to the United states. They have killed thousands of their own people for their religious beliefs.
@MetalSights but it is the american behaviour mixed up with lies and absurd interpretations of the quran what the preachers use to seed hate against the western world and especially the usa...
@MetalSights instead of torturing people and throwing bombs on them we should improve these peoples living standards, education etc. . and teach them human rights because thats the only way to end this shit one day... if you kill and torture for revenge or your ideals/beliefs you are not even better than the terrorists you fight.
Well what the fuck do you think we are doing with everything else?
Navy Corpsman/Special Forces medics and nurses are providing medical help and training the ANA and the civilians. My father was one of those people and I hope to be one day as well. The Taliban are "Freedom fighters" that torture and intimidate the population with death if they do not follow radical Islamic law. We don't just shoot everything despite popular media propaganda.
Let's suppose some evil person stole your little girl recorded burying her in a hole and refuse say where! What would you do to save her? I'd water board in a second! How much more worth are many little one! Suppose someone planted a nuclear bomb in the middle of New York City? I'd do worse than water boarding to find the location!
Someone tell me how this is torture. Furthermore, someone else tell me how wetting a guys face to potentially prevent the killing of tens or hundreds or thousands of innocent people is not acceptable.
@Marauder1981 How is Google going to help me? I am asking a question specific to this video, so the most appropriate place to ask that question is in this video's comment section. Perhaps it is you who should learn to use Google. While you're at it, Google "Utilitarianism."
@uberjorge5737 And who is Terrorists and criminals? Some enemy soldier or poor freedom fighter from poor developing country who only do not want that USA occupy his homeland and steal oil. Ok so USA have nothing to do whit Universal Declaration of Human Rights, USA can always torture all suspicious POWs until they admit whatever. Fuck about Human Rights. Waterboarding is only cruel, inhuman and illegal. Perfect to freedom of USA!
these dumbass did it wrong u supposed to put a rag over the whole face no need to gag the pour guy hahah done correctly they shouldnt last more then 5 seconds
@Animosity831 Yeah it is, because the whole point of it is to simulate drowning. When drowning most people are completly covered in water, so they add to the effect by pouring water on the chest. That, or he was pouring water on the man to continue the effect while the other guy grabbed another water bottle.
@Dracenfelz Subject yourself to waterboarding and then you can be the judge of whether or not it is torture. Just because there exists torture more obviously gruesome than waterboarding does not mean that the psychological effects of this practice do not constitute torture. The guy in the video could have ended it at any time - in reality, being completely at the mercy of your captors, knowing that they intend to inflict pain upon you (even death) and you can do NOTHING, is absolutely torture.
that was crazy...but I thought the way it worked was you put the cloth flat on their face and then start putting water on them. I guess it was dont like that so there was no damage over time to his health?
Oh yeah Vlad the Impaler or Dracula, was the front lines between the Ottoman empire and Christianity. He was hailed an unofficial champion of the Catholic church for his atrocities against islam. Good to see Christianity, 1000 years of oppression and torture and still going strong. Yay Christianity!!! piece be wit ya brotha and there are still people voluntarily signing up to be modern day inquisitors (albeit gay waterboarding ones)...unfuckingbelievable, they musta skipped history class huh
@Dracenfelz Obviously not REAL Christians idiot. And, no I am not a Christian anymore, I backslid long ago but I still love the Lord and hope to live for Him again. There are lots of people that claim Christianity that are not. And please don't put Catholics in there with Christians. I know they are technically but talk about true evil, they are the worst, at least back in the "bad" old days.Anyhoo, seek God and seek truth.
@JudgeThane Sounds like you love the Lord very much, starting off this response with a personal attack on my person...really sad and sounds like you have a long road ahead. It wasn't my intention to blast Christianity or Catholics, but rather to highlight how we as a people still fall into the same old traps of old. People do horrible things for horrible people in the name of God..then and now. When in actuality it has little to do with God and much to do with greed and ego.
@JudgeThane How many wars have been fought and lives lost for a God that preaches peace...it fascinates me. Even today people still believe the same old story and keep doing the same old work so the elite become wealthy at everyone elses expense. So easily lied to...it's for the greater good, police, judges, politicians, soldiers, all knowingly destroying many lives all in the line of duty and to uphold freedom and the values of God...bullshit it has nothing to do with God nor His law...wake up
@Dracenfelz How many wars have been fought and lives lost for reasons that had nothing to do with God? God is not to blame here. Man is. If you wanna hate then hate humanity but then you need to hate yourself as well.
@JudgeThane What's the obsession with God?You are missing the point. My opinion is not attacking God or religion of any kind. In fact I completely agree with you. And man is definitely to blame for the things he has done NOT God.FYI I try not to hate anyone, it's benefits no one. All I'm saying is don't you think it funny that we (assuming) along with the muslims believe in a God of peace, yet we are constantly warring. How do ppl continue to believe the lies they are fed by the powers that be?
Vlad the impaler was said to have perfected his methods. So much so that he could stake a person starting at the anus and exiting his mouth, missing vital organs and allowing the wind pipes just enough room to allow breathing. This would in some cases allow hundreds of people at a time to remain alive for days in this state. Imaging the front of this fuckers castle with hundreds of impaled people dying.... that's torture...imo...I think people have lost perspective on this issue.
This is some gay ass shit. I cannot believe there is even a debate whether this is torture. Torture is getting 10 to 15 spikes thrust into your body missing vital organs and arteries like an iron maiden. Or the rack or anal impaling... Anyone who argues that this is torture should read a history book and learn about the horrible things that have been done to people throughout the ages...water boarding is fucking mickey mouse people...child's play.
@Dracenfelz You are clearly misled by the way that the guy being water boarded in this video handled it. It may not be in the same category physically as some of those things you listed, but it is drowning. I'm just sure you would be saying it isn't torture while a group of torturers full on performed it on you without anything you say or do stopping it.
@Lance01011 Where are you from? Obviously they have no schools where you are from since you cannot spell and have no idea of punctuation or capitalization?
@rustyknutz69 what if the person being tortured is not a terrorist and turned out to be innocent later ? and dont you think that makes you as bad as the "terrorists" ?
@majdijr you must be awfully suspicious to be confused as a terrorist....i mean i'm never just picked up off the street as a rapist or murderer, or theif, bc i'm not
@rustyknutz69 The point is, the terrorists weren't the only ones being water boarded to obtain information. Also, looking strictly from the efficiency of gathering intelligence, torture is very poor way to gather any valid information.
@rustyknutz69 I agree 100%...if it is certain he is a terrorist, but people are getting waterboarded without being convicted of anything, so terrorists got waterboarded and possibly some innocent people as well.
@bennyx112 relax... think about what you're saying =p
Re-read what rustknutz69 said.... haha he said that terrorists deserve to die anyway, so he doesn't care if they're tortured. So calm down. And why did you bring up his mom?
hahahahhahah why you're so funny man I must crying !!!!! DU HURENSOHN!!!!!! I'm from germany son of a bitch!!!!! Oruspu and this is turkish fick deine mutter
Germany systematically uses torture and murder to silence any opposition. Some of the murders known to the public: Uwe Barschel, Jürgen Möllemann, Heiner Gehring, Martina Pflock, Tron, Karl Koch, Bernd Seiffert, Kirsten Heisig, Fritz Bauer.
My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during 5.5 years by the German BND. He was assassinated on 11.7.09 because of our homepage.
German snitchers are following me on youtube and immediately flag my postings.
The police doesnt use torture cus its against the law, its against the LAW!!..why didnt they torture the Oklahoma bomber? ofc they are going admitt to anything with this torture, to prevent being killed.
@alexbeathaloreach USA has been killing people in Middle East for 30 years. That and the poor conditions caused by the wars increase the popularity of extreme organisations. 9/11 happened, because the terrorists wanted USA to mind their own business instead of spreading their superpower politics. Have you noticed how terrorist attacks only target USA and those countries who help them in Iraq?
Also USA is not noble. Wars never start for unselfish reasons like "saving the world from terrorism".
@kaakatin no, not 30 years. thats bull. 9/11 was not because the terrorists wanted to be left alone. are you kidding me? terrorists dont only threaten the us and other countires who help them. Al-quieda invaded kuwait and we needed to stop them.
@alexbeathaloreach Well the war in Afganistan started 1979 and USA took part in it, so that's 32 years. But why do you think terrorist attacks happen? Because terrorists are evil and hate other peoples freedom?
USA did not invade Iraq to save the world from forces of evil. As I said, wars never start for unselfish reasons. Nations must be selfish just because other nations are selfish too.
Also Al-Qaeda does not exist. It is an imaginary organisation that USA uses to justify killing people.
@kaakatin We went to war with Iraq because the Brits and Israelis said he had WMDs and that sadaam broke the UN resolutions 12 times since 1992 thats why we went to war idiot.
@TheMossad921 No need to insult me for believing something else than you do. No weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq and Saddam is dead, so why does the war still continue?
@kaakatin one we are there with dozens of other countries, a war sanctioned by the UN, to try and establish a government and stabilize the country so it doesnt fall back to a dictatorship. This is not our personal war or bush's war as people make it out to be. I dont want to be there i dont give a shit but i want the job done right so we dont have to go back there again
@TheMossad921 How does war stabilize a country? If USA wanted a government that they liked in Iraq, they would support it with money. That would actually be cheaper than fighting a war. Now they just fuel rebel and extreme organisations by killing people "for democracy".
Nations are selfish and they must be in order to prevail. The US governemt doesn't care whether there is a dictator in Iraq or whether people suffer there.
@kaakatin i see your point but the main difference is i cant generalize like that i dont believe every soldier or politician or whatever simply doesnt care. If simply flooding money would yield better results i would be all for it but you cant trust these people
To be fair, a war is when TWO armies are fighting. What is going on in Iraq is not and has never been a war, it is and was always an occupation to gain and sustain control of the oil resources in that region, and 9-11 was an inside job used as the means in which to justify the invasion to the public.
You really can't be that naive with the Middle East being the greatest source of oil on the planet and oil being such an important American resource. Anyways, I can tell by your emotional response and by you saying "we" you will take personally any kind of criticism of the US, so I really don't take anything people like you say seriously because you believe anything the government tells you.
And you believe that 911 was an inside job and many other preposterous conspiracy theories so you probably don't take anything logical or factual seriously either haha, huh? And you must not believe that the US oil shale reserves total an astonishing 1.5 trillion barrels of oil – or more than five times the stated reserves of Saudi Arabia? We liberated Iraq from a cruel dictator and we should have taken all their fucking oil.
If you really believe the purpose of the Iraq "war" was to remove an evil dictator, and if you can't understand the importance of the US having some kind of oil control in the Middle East, and that being the motivating factor to the invasion of Iraq, than you my friend are the real idiot.
Sadam may have been the dictator in Iraq, but America is the dictator of the world. Get outta here with that blind patriotism. America does horrible things all the time, you just don't want to know about it.
@mellowmark1 oh i know america does horrible things, but we are a "good dictator" no other country in history has conquered other territories, overthrown the leader, and given the land back to it's people. We are giving people better lives, and i wouldn't call that horrible. just like i wouldn't call waterboarding horrible, its probably the most humane form of torture, if you think it's inhumane then go check out what other countries do to torture people
In other words you think criticizing US policies automatically makes you prejudiced.
Besides, you said "many people -- consider America worse than al-Qaeda" and I said I think so too. That's hardly "calling it".
Africa and Latin America are full of examples of right wing dictators just as brutal as any of the leftist ones. And even if there was the kind of correlation you claim, it'd be naïve to think that'd be the decisive factor for America's co-operation.
I've had this too in my training. Lasted about 25 min. Then stage 2 when they put a piece of fabric in my throat. After a few minutes I told them to stop. You can see this man is well trained. The average for people who aren't trained for this is not more than a few minutes only in stage 1....
I could see how someone would give in to waterboarding. Its one thing to last 30mins in a session but to keep going at that 24/7 is another thing, so yea sooner or later you will break and tell the truth or lie, just to make it stop.
@drob2112 My bet is every single people has done this. They did that in Japan, they did that in Germany, and they seem to like beheading a in Latin America, too.
@drob2112 That's the thing, there was a huge outcry over Abu Ghraib, despite not a single prisoner being killed or otherwise permanently physically disabled, and when al-Qaeda responded by sawing off an innocent civilian contractor's head on video, the same people who were outraged did not make any thing near the same fuss about it, in fact, in the Muslim world, they were totally silent.
This proves that there exists a huge moral and intellectual void in critics of the U.S. war on terror.
@Re5Publica The quote in the end was pretty good: "It's not about who they are, it's about who we are." I think it's strange how so many are surprised that the world holds US to a different standard than a terrorist organization. Actually, I don't think Al-Qaida is even really an organization anymore, but rather an ideology behind a myriad of small groups. Anyway, this line of argument to defend torture is kind of like beating up a ten year old and then saying he started it.
@tuoz1 Many people I've argued with consider America worse than al-Qaeda. Belief in the Muslim world that 9\11 was an inside job is mainstream, and the argument that America killed millions of people in Iraq (despite the actual number being nowhere near that) is often cited. America is held to a higher standard only so that it can be criticized more easily than its enemies.
Your analogy is totally inappropriate. K. S. Mohammed planned the crushing, choking and burning to death of 3000 people.
@Re5Publica I think America is worse than Al-Qaida. Not because of the methods, but because of the scope of it: decades of supporting dictators to drain poor countries of resources plus a whole lot of individual atrocities. US isn't the only one doing that of course, but it is the biggest one. World can't afford a power of that magnitude to lower it's standards any further.
Psychologically it's clear that the reason why Muslim world thinks so is because they think it was a horrible thing to do.
@tuoz1 It's rare to have my statements so thoroughly vindicated by the person I'm arguing with.
I can't imagine which countries you think are being plundered by the U.S. Gulf arabs don't even pay taxes because americans buy their oil at such high prices. Your view is prejudiced and shallow.
Compare dictators america supports to those they oppose. Compare Mubarak's and Ghadaffi's response to civil revolt.
al-Qaeda tries hard to keep countries in poverty and misery, you shouldn't ignore it.
@Re5Publica Ahh prejudiced...the magic word of every argument. I've studied these issues and seen the situation in a few 3rd world countries so I'm not pre-judging, I'm judging. It is however prejudiced for you to call my view prejudiced.
Sure things are pretty well in the Gulf, they have half of all the oil. It's not like they get a better price for it. Also they are less blatantly dictatorial than many other's like Yemen, Turkmenistan and Eq. Guinea, so more money trickles down the ladder.
@tuoz1 Keep in mind of course the oil in the arabian peninsula was discovered by U.S. geologists.
Actually, I had you all figured out... remember you saying you thought America was worse than al-Qaeda? I called it before you said it. I was right in my judgement.
Last I checked when al-Qaeda had a base in Afghanistan, people were being beaten for shaving their beards and playing music. But, now thanks to American intervention, the Afghan Star finale was watched by 1\3rd of the country.
@Re5Publica Do you seriously think US sided with Mubarak and not Gaddafi because he's a nicer man? That's funny! Comparing dictators America supports to those they oppose will simply show you others are left wing others are right wing. Btw, Egyptian troops were also ordered to fire, they refused.
Who is ignoring the shit al-Qaida does?
How exactly have I vindicated any of your statements?
@tuoz1 Yes, clearly. There's no question the worst totalitarian world leaders are anti-US. Left-wing dictators have traditionally been far more authoritarian and murderous, which should explain the choice. Remember Cubans and North Koreans are still not even permitted to leave their countries.
The fact that foreign press were reporting from Egypt, and were protected by Egypt's military shows again that Mubarak may have been an autocrat, but not totalitarian like Nkorea, Libya, Cuba, or Iran.
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poop12345681 1 week ago
This is nothing compared to what some countries do.
ImHixxxgaming 2 weeks ago
simulated drowning = torture. no shit.
EpicAdventureQuest 2 weeks ago
normally i do not support torture, but look at it this way: you're a soldier and a POW you captured has vital information that could save hundreds of lives. i'm going to get that info out of him by any means necessary, even if i have to use torture.
rockergod789 3 weeks ago
@rockergod789 faggot
KamikazeAffe 2 weeks ago
@KamikazeAffe wow, was that a complete sentence? go back to school kid, this is grown-up time.
rockergod789 2 weeks ago
@rockergod789 shut up or i will waterboard you :)
KamikazeAffe 1 week ago
@KamikazeAffe fuck you.
rockergod789 1 week ago
i need to wake up a bit can someone do this with me please no joke but cold water
jantheonlyone 1 month ago
Wait isn't it illegal to perform this on someone since it is torture?
RetroTheSkywalker 1 month ago
@RetroTheSkywalker It isn't considered torture
Roy9030 1 month ago
@Roy9030
I've seen the different methods. I don't care what they consider it. THAT IS TORTURE! Even Mancow Muller who said it wasn't for 7 years said it was after being waterboarded for 4 seconds. Those who don't consider it torture should have it done then comment.
Dmann4Christ 1 month ago
@Dmann4Christ Oh I do consider it torture. But it is legally not considered torture.
Roy9030 1 month ago
@Roy9030
The sad part is the only reason why we are not legally considering it torture is because we are the ones doing it. So much for the moral high ground we claim to stand on. Thanks for clearing the air on your take on it. Glad we agree
Dmann4Christ 1 month ago
chuck norris can withstand waterboarding for 9 hours
torpedo192 2 months ago
oh man i couldn't watch that.
christophedetiege 2 months ago
Torture.
KelevraDk 2 months ago 3
Tell us what you know BITCH!!!!! TELL US!!!!!! Did you or did you not leave the toilet seat up?
feadawg 2 months ago
they pour it on his chest so it feels like he is drowning , dumb fucks
xxDutchyBoy4xx 2 months ago
Imagine the Taliban talking about this whether it'd be immoral. Water boarding our beloved armed forces to find out where the American WMD's are. Torture is illegal.
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USN276 2 months ago
wtf??????????? fake and gay!
crazypersonlol34 2 months ago
fucking idiots that looks like sex torture
huskymiles 2 months ago
We should do whatever is required to keep America Safe from Terrorist, liberals and the socialist thugs.
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@seabreezemm
Sir, you are fucking evil.
Feytor11 2 months ago
What a scary thing. To make someone think that they are going to drown. That's terrible!
natoyabrown85 2 months ago
"Most people will last 2 minutes.."
The producer stops them after 24 minutes, Kaj isn't telling the CIA shit!
espChris93 3 months ago
this wasnt done right lmfao. youre supposed to elevate the person so their feet are higher than the head. then place a thin cloth over the mmouth and nose so when they breath in they suck in moisture as to cause the sensation of drowning. all they did was stick a rag in his mouth and wet it lmfao
ghsbbqftw 3 months ago
@ghsbbqftw You're right. They didn't do it correctly and they used a Seal. Nobody out there has enough experience like a Seal. They should have gotten a citizen who volunteered. And the thin cloth technique you said is true, they just stuck a cloth in the mouth and hoped it would work, which is why he lasted so long too. I'm just saying. I don't this for a living or follow it, but read enough that they didn't do it right. So yeah. Peace.
928baller 2 months ago
@ghsbbqftw
What have you been waterboarded before?
videomakerman1232 2 months ago
OMG! If I was to be waterboarded, I would of been scared to death.
Chrisgodoflard 4 months ago
US PATRIOT ACT! we will get you all..allah basterds..
MsBarsch 4 months ago
@MsBarsch you will never get them all... if you dont change the way you americans treat the rest of the world then your "war on terror" will be like cutting of one of the hydra's heads: there are 7 heads growing instead of the one you cut off. but i dont think that you will ever get it...
Oneninetybeats 4 months ago
Fuck you Americans
KeinTorHase 4 months ago
@KeinTorHase We love you too.
MetalSights 4 months ago
Some bomb cities. Others bomb back. Ones cut a hand and the others torture as well. People can't see the truth if they were taught to hate since they were little. Well everyone arguing here is an idiot and all of your arguments are fucking dumb. I'm not in either sides of these parties.
snoopfelladoggydog 4 months ago
@snoopfelladoggydog Then you're......A TERRORIST!
MetalSights 4 months ago
If the TALIBAN can cut off voters hands, kill women for adultery, and behead for changing religions, I think we can pour a little water on their faces without getting called American pigs.
WHO'S WITH ME? Fucking liberal asswads.
MetalSights 5 months ago
@MetalSights If it's good enough for the TALIBAN its good enough for USA ;)
PercolatorFish 4 months ago
@MetalSights well i think that you can NOT pour a little water on anyones face because thats simply not right. if someone has killed lots of people then shot him in the face. but when you torture people they would say anything you want them to even if it is not right...
Oneninetybeats 4 months ago
@Oneninetybeats Well, then they should not have conspired to kill dozens or even hundreds of people. The information obtained can save lives on the US's side and on the Afgan's innocent people side.
Remember, the Taliban do not limit their murders to the United states. They have killed thousands of their own people for their religious beliefs.
MetalSights 4 months ago
@MetalSights but it is the american behaviour mixed up with lies and absurd interpretations of the quran what the preachers use to seed hate against the western world and especially the usa...
Oneninetybeats 4 months ago
@MetalSights instead of torturing people and throwing bombs on them we should improve these peoples living standards, education etc. . and teach them human rights because thats the only way to end this shit one day... if you kill and torture for revenge or your ideals/beliefs you are not even better than the terrorists you fight.
Oneninetybeats 4 months ago
@Oneninetybeats
Well what the fuck do you think we are doing with everything else?
Navy Corpsman/Special Forces medics and nurses are providing medical help and training the ANA and the civilians. My father was one of those people and I hope to be one day as well. The Taliban are "Freedom fighters" that torture and intimidate the population with death if they do not follow radical Islamic law. We don't just shoot everything despite popular media propaganda.
MetalSights 4 months ago
Let's suppose some evil person stole your little girl recorded burying her in a hole and refuse say where! What would you do to save her? I'd water board in a second! How much more worth are many little one! Suppose someone planted a nuclear bomb in the middle of New York City? I'd do worse than water boarding to find the location!
trustyshopper 5 months ago
Like a Boss!
llxXSJSXxll 5 months ago
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Hazefulify 5 months ago
Thats just wrong
ConsolesR3worked 5 months ago
pfff i go waterboarding every wknd at my lake house
jlopez9090 5 months ago
like a pro kudos man kudos
disembodiedfreak 5 months ago
Someone tell me how this is torture. Furthermore, someone else tell me how wetting a guys face to potentially prevent the killing of tens or hundreds or thousands of innocent people is not acceptable.
grenadeserenade 5 months ago
@grenadeserenade Learn to use Google fuckin moron!
Marauder1981 5 months ago
@Marauder1981 How is Google going to help me? I am asking a question specific to this video, so the most appropriate place to ask that question is in this video's comment section. Perhaps it is you who should learn to use Google. While you're at it, Google "Utilitarianism."
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Phygar1 5 months ago
badass
batboyjhg 6 months ago
Those "Dumb asses" are US Army trained... I highly doubt they did it wrong... And he DID have his whole face covered. Did you not see the mask?
GamerzHelpuh 6 months ago
Terrorists and criminals are not people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uberjorge5737 6 months ago
@uberjorge5737 And who is Terrorists and criminals? Some enemy soldier or poor freedom fighter from poor developing country who only do not want that USA occupy his homeland and steal oil. Ok so USA have nothing to do whit Universal Declaration of Human Rights, USA can always torture all suspicious POWs until they admit whatever. Fuck about Human Rights. Waterboarding is only cruel, inhuman and illegal. Perfect to freedom of USA!
Menties1 6 months ago
these dumbass did it wrong u supposed to put a rag over the whole face no need to gag the pour guy hahah done correctly they shouldnt last more then 5 seconds
elbarbque 6 months ago
Boss.
kiloboss11 6 months ago
hey i mean its the enemy they torture captured soldiers
Richland112 6 months ago
And this right here ladies in gentleman, is what killed Osama. Not the president.....
E1337Hacks 6 months ago
whp paid 800 dolalrs to get nearly drowned. Lol wtf
BigNickDigger88 6 months ago
is pouring water on his chest part of it? or does the interrogator guy just want his chest wet? lol xD
Animosity831 6 months ago 7
@Animosity831 Yeah it is, because the whole point of it is to simulate drowning. When drowning most people are completly covered in water, so they add to the effect by pouring water on the chest. That, or he was pouring water on the man to continue the effect while the other guy grabbed another water bottle.
animedude00spec 6 months ago
@Animosity831 i think its so like your body feels its under water kinda...
Daevi1 6 months ago
@Animosity831
yes it is, it makes the actual idea of drowning more realistic.
SenSproductions 3 months ago
@Animosity831 so that he thinks he drowning for real: his clothes are getting wet too
AThomasKent 2 months ago
@Animosity831 Its adds to the drowning simmulation/sensation.
Syntexz 2 months ago
@Animosity831 getting more of his body wet sends messages to the brain that the body is being submerged in water. (being drowned)
beebhunter 20 hours ago
That looks like it really sucks.
ProAtEverything123 7 months ago
@Dracenfelz Subject yourself to waterboarding and then you can be the judge of whether or not it is torture. Just because there exists torture more obviously gruesome than waterboarding does not mean that the psychological effects of this practice do not constitute torture. The guy in the video could have ended it at any time - in reality, being completely at the mercy of your captors, knowing that they intend to inflict pain upon you (even death) and you can do NOTHING, is absolutely torture.
ruinsofkunark 7 months ago
respect
iownyah 7 months ago
i would like to waterboard you and get you to admit what a faggot you are
LongLiveSylar 7 months ago
wtf man i hate ads
ronniepage 8 months ago
that was crazy...but I thought the way it worked was you put the cloth flat on their face and then start putting water on them. I guess it was dont like that so there was no damage over time to his health?
Teethgrillin 8 months ago
Transparency is the Apocalypse...the revolution will be anonymous
JonathanToth 8 months ago
Lame
civilizeddog 8 months ago
"I couldn't bear the thought of paying someone a thousand dollars to torture me"
Lol Kaj you crazy man
TRZbebop675 8 months ago
Oh yeah Vlad the Impaler or Dracula, was the front lines between the Ottoman empire and Christianity. He was hailed an unofficial champion of the Catholic church for his atrocities against islam. Good to see Christianity, 1000 years of oppression and torture and still going strong. Yay Christianity!!! piece be wit ya brotha and there are still people voluntarily signing up to be modern day inquisitors (albeit gay waterboarding ones)...unfuckingbelievable, they musta skipped history class huh
Dracenfelz 8 months ago
@Dracenfelz Obviously not REAL Christians idiot. And, no I am not a Christian anymore, I backslid long ago but I still love the Lord and hope to live for Him again. There are lots of people that claim Christianity that are not. And please don't put Catholics in there with Christians. I know they are technically but talk about true evil, they are the worst, at least back in the "bad" old days.Anyhoo, seek God and seek truth.
JudgeThane 8 months ago
@JudgeThane Sounds like you love the Lord very much, starting off this response with a personal attack on my person...really sad and sounds like you have a long road ahead. It wasn't my intention to blast Christianity or Catholics, but rather to highlight how we as a people still fall into the same old traps of old. People do horrible things for horrible people in the name of God..then and now. When in actuality it has little to do with God and much to do with greed and ego.
Dracenfelz 8 months ago
@Dracenfelz As I said, I am no longer a Christian. I backslid long ago so I can actually be an ass but I still love the Lord.
JudgeThane 8 months ago
@JudgeThane How many wars have been fought and lives lost for a God that preaches peace...it fascinates me. Even today people still believe the same old story and keep doing the same old work so the elite become wealthy at everyone elses expense. So easily lied to...it's for the greater good, police, judges, politicians, soldiers, all knowingly destroying many lives all in the line of duty and to uphold freedom and the values of God...bullshit it has nothing to do with God nor His law...wake up
Dracenfelz 8 months ago
@Dracenfelz How many wars have been fought and lives lost for reasons that had nothing to do with God? God is not to blame here. Man is. If you wanna hate then hate humanity but then you need to hate yourself as well.
JudgeThane 8 months ago
@JudgeThane What's the obsession with God?You are missing the point. My opinion is not attacking God or religion of any kind. In fact I completely agree with you. And man is definitely to blame for the things he has done NOT God.FYI I try not to hate anyone, it's benefits no one. All I'm saying is don't you think it funny that we (assuming) along with the muslims believe in a God of peace, yet we are constantly warring. How do ppl continue to believe the lies they are fed by the powers that be?
Dracenfelz 8 months ago
Wow, Kaj Larsen is a badass.
astrologue 8 months ago
Took it like a champ.
Tree0rnament 8 months ago 50
@Tree0rnament he's a seal
claton95 7 months ago
if it isn't harmful and painful as hell, why are they doing it... there ya go.
ballm0use 8 months ago
Vlad the impaler was said to have perfected his methods. So much so that he could stake a person starting at the anus and exiting his mouth, missing vital organs and allowing the wind pipes just enough room to allow breathing. This would in some cases allow hundreds of people at a time to remain alive for days in this state. Imaging the front of this fuckers castle with hundreds of impaled people dying.... that's torture...imo...I think people have lost perspective on this issue.
Dracenfelz 8 months ago
This is some gay ass shit. I cannot believe there is even a debate whether this is torture. Torture is getting 10 to 15 spikes thrust into your body missing vital organs and arteries like an iron maiden. Or the rack or anal impaling... Anyone who argues that this is torture should read a history book and learn about the horrible things that have been done to people throughout the ages...water boarding is fucking mickey mouse people...child's play.
Dracenfelz 8 months ago
@Dracenfelz You are clearly misled by the way that the guy being water boarded in this video handled it. It may not be in the same category physically as some of those things you listed, but it is drowning. I'm just sure you would be saying it isn't torture while a group of torturers full on performed it on you without anything you say or do stopping it.
cKunke2 4 months ago
humans are retarded.
Fr0ntl1nez 8 months ago
fucking USA, now i understand why whole word hate dumb american asses
Lance01011 8 months ago
@Lance01011 Where are you from? Obviously they have no schools where you are from since you cannot spell and have no idea of punctuation or capitalization?
wq1299 8 months ago
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Brust90 8 months ago
I support waterboarding 100%. This video shows the truth and reality behind it. Waterboarding is not torture. It does not cuse pain, just discomfort.
GRR2F66 8 months ago
@GRR2F66 I agree, this is not causing pain. It's just uncomfortable...
Massap2 8 months ago
we bomb whole cities with innocent women and children and you are debating over torturing a few assholes for a few minutes
LongLiveSylar 9 months ago 21
@LongLiveSylar instead of wasting time on youtube, go do something about it
itsNards 7 months ago
@itsNards and what do you suggest smart ass
LongLiveSylar 7 months ago
@LongLiveSylar peace corps you fucking retard, youtube isnt gonna get you anywhere
itsNards 7 months ago
@LongLiveSylar its not a few minutes when they pass out and die
NUGNESS123 6 months ago
@LongLiveSylar correction: for days
TechHost 3 months ago
@LongLiveSylar this is a joke isn't it?
just because there are worse thing in this world, doesn't make other deficits better.....
ThePatridiot 3 months ago
here to save the motha fuckin day yeah
LongLiveSylar 9 months ago
I want to see Hannity do this for charity like he promised in exactly this way.
He's made us wait forever now, this is the least he can do.
ThriceThursday 9 months ago
$800 for a bad waterboarding job?!
deft1trickster 9 months ago
for god sakes nobody knows how to waterboard properly these days
samandcass 9 months ago
Guess what, I dint give a fuck if a terrorist gets waterboarded a thousand times, he's a terrorist he deserves to die anyway
rustyknutz69 9 months ago 2
@rustyknutz69 what if the person being tortured is not a terrorist and turned out to be innocent later ? and dont you think that makes you as bad as the "terrorists" ?
majdijr 8 months ago
@majdijr you must be awfully suspicious to be confused as a terrorist....i mean i'm never just picked up off the street as a rapist or murderer, or theif, bc i'm not
upinya25 8 months ago
@rustyknutz69 i dont give two damns neither, but who choose who is one and who isnt? and went to draw a line on something that constitute a crime...
ionarf 8 months ago
@rustyknutz69 how bout we do it to you after all your a terrorist too prove otherwise
ParkerBe23 8 months ago
@rustyknutz69 The point is, the terrorists weren't the only ones being water boarded to obtain information. Also, looking strictly from the efficiency of gathering intelligence, torture is very poor way to gather any valid information.
clank1 8 months ago
@rustyknutz69 I agree 100%...if it is certain he is a terrorist, but people are getting waterboarded without being convicted of anything, so terrorists got waterboarded and possibly some innocent people as well.
GladiatorGT 8 months ago
@rustyknutz69 and its people like you why terrorists exist in the first place.
ronniepage 8 months ago
@rustyknutz69
FUKK YOU AND YOUR MOTHERFU KING MOM!!! YOU'RE A TERRORIST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bennyx112 8 months ago
@bennyx112 relax... think about what you're saying =p
Re-read what rustknutz69 said.... haha he said that terrorists deserve to die anyway, so he doesn't care if they're tortured. So calm down. And why did you bring up his mom?
Herewizard 7 months ago
@Herewizard
ARE TERRORISTS NO PEOPLE I CAN NOT RELAX !!!! :@@@@ BECAUSE HE DIDN'T NOW WHATS A TRERRORIST IS MOTHERFUCKER!!!!
bennyx112 7 months ago
@bennyx112 Oh of coooourse!!! Nooooow I understand. Thanks for putting it in caps, really helped me out. English is your tenth language?
Herewizard 7 months ago
@Herewizard
hahahahhahah why you're so funny man I must crying !!!!! DU HURENSOHN!!!!!! I'm from germany son of a bitch!!!!! Oruspu and this is turkish fick deine mutter
bennyx112 7 months ago
@bennyx112 Ok I'm done with this...
Herewizard 7 months ago
@rustyknutz69 - Tell you what, "rustyknutz69" - you try getting waterboarded, then post your video.
(Oh - and you and Dylan? Maybe stop trying to shoot cats. Tough to get good boards when your chain sees a video like that.)
sumgai777 7 months ago
shit's scary,but shit need's to be done to get information.Jack Bauer would call people against this a bunch of pussies.xD
urbman29 9 months ago
@urbman29
except if you don't know what they want, you'll tell them what to hear. And if you do know, you'll tell them SOMETHING, but it won't be true.
1Lozzix1 9 months ago
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wwwtotalitaerde 9 months ago
The police doesnt use torture cus its against the law, its against the LAW!!..why didnt they torture the Oklahoma bomber? ofc they are going admitt to anything with this torture, to prevent being killed.
morgall 9 months ago 2
Scary 0.o
mymumissostupid 9 months ago
"im going waterboarding." hes such a retard. many people go waterboarding and have fun
llammapalluzza 10 months ago
Worst waterboarding job ever? Think they mixed in Chinese water torture and got confused.
AmericaFyeah1776 10 months ago
Fuck these ads
samy482 10 months ago
The real solution to stopping terrorism would be leaving Iraq.
kaakatin 10 months ago
@kaakatin wow you fucking stupid
alexbeathaloreach 10 months ago
@alexbeathaloreach What an unbeatable argument. You must be a real genius. Now I see that I was wrong. Thank you.
kaakatin 10 months ago
@kaakatin OK, then explain to me how leaving Iraq would end terrorism.
alexbeathaloreach 10 months ago
@alexbeathaloreach USA has been killing people in Middle East for 30 years. That and the poor conditions caused by the wars increase the popularity of extreme organisations. 9/11 happened, because the terrorists wanted USA to mind their own business instead of spreading their superpower politics. Have you noticed how terrorist attacks only target USA and those countries who help them in Iraq?
Also USA is not noble. Wars never start for unselfish reasons like "saving the world from terrorism".
kaakatin 10 months ago
@kaakatin no, not 30 years. thats bull. 9/11 was not because the terrorists wanted to be left alone. are you kidding me? terrorists dont only threaten the us and other countires who help them. Al-quieda invaded kuwait and we needed to stop them.
alexbeathaloreach 10 months ago
@alexbeathaloreach Well the war in Afganistan started 1979 and USA took part in it, so that's 32 years. But why do you think terrorist attacks happen? Because terrorists are evil and hate other peoples freedom?
USA did not invade Iraq to save the world from forces of evil. As I said, wars never start for unselfish reasons. Nations must be selfish just because other nations are selfish too.
Also Al-Qaeda does not exist. It is an imaginary organisation that USA uses to justify killing people.
kaakatin 10 months ago
@kaakatin we invaded iraq to wind weapons of mass destruction. not to stop evil
alexbeathaloreach 10 months ago
@kaakatin we invaded iraq to find weapons of mass destruction. not to stop evil
alexbeathaloreach 10 months ago
@alexbeathaloreach But oh-so-surprisingly no such weapons were found and war still continues.
kaakatin 10 months ago
@kaakatin We went to war with Iraq because the Brits and Israelis said he had WMDs and that sadaam broke the UN resolutions 12 times since 1992 thats why we went to war idiot.
TheMossad921 9 months ago
@TheMossad921 No need to insult me for believing something else than you do. No weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq and Saddam is dead, so why does the war still continue?
kaakatin 9 months ago
@kaakatin one we are there with dozens of other countries, a war sanctioned by the UN, to try and establish a government and stabilize the country so it doesnt fall back to a dictatorship. This is not our personal war or bush's war as people make it out to be. I dont want to be there i dont give a shit but i want the job done right so we dont have to go back there again
TheMossad921 9 months ago
@TheMossad921 How does war stabilize a country? If USA wanted a government that they liked in Iraq, they would support it with money. That would actually be cheaper than fighting a war. Now they just fuel rebel and extreme organisations by killing people "for democracy".
Nations are selfish and they must be in order to prevail. The US governemt doesn't care whether there is a dictator in Iraq or whether people suffer there.
kaakatin 9 months ago
@kaakatin i see your point but the main difference is i cant generalize like that i dont believe every soldier or politician or whatever simply doesnt care. If simply flooding money would yield better results i would be all for it but you cant trust these people
TheMossad921 9 months ago
@kaakatin
To be fair, a war is when TWO armies are fighting. What is going on in Iraq is not and has never been a war, it is and was always an occupation to gain and sustain control of the oil resources in that region, and 9-11 was an inside job used as the means in which to justify the invasion to the public.
mellowmark1 9 months ago
@mellowmark1
You are one stupid motherfucker hahah how much oil did we get from Iraq? Zero, truthers like you are fucking disgusting
TheBigboytoy100 9 months ago
@TheBigboytoy100
You really can't be that naive with the Middle East being the greatest source of oil on the planet and oil being such an important American resource. Anyways, I can tell by your emotional response and by you saying "we" you will take personally any kind of criticism of the US, so I really don't take anything people like you say seriously because you believe anything the government tells you.
mellowmark1 9 months ago
@mellowmark1
And you believe that 911 was an inside job and many other preposterous conspiracy theories so you probably don't take anything logical or factual seriously either haha, huh? And you must not believe that the US oil shale reserves total an astonishing 1.5 trillion barrels of oil – or more than five times the stated reserves of Saudi Arabia? We liberated Iraq from a cruel dictator and we should have taken all their fucking oil.
TheBigboytoy100 9 months ago
@TheBigboytoy100
If you really believe the purpose of the Iraq "war" was to remove an evil dictator, and if you can't understand the importance of the US having some kind of oil control in the Middle East, and that being the motivating factor to the invasion of Iraq, than you my friend are the real idiot.
mellowmark1 9 months ago
@mellowmark1 who cares if we wanted oil? we got rid of a fucking dictator!! GO AMERICA!!!
EatACracker 9 months ago
@EatACracker
Sadam may have been the dictator in Iraq, but America is the dictator of the world. Get outta here with that blind patriotism. America does horrible things all the time, you just don't want to know about it.
mellowmark1 9 months ago
@mellowmark1 oh i know america does horrible things, but we are a "good dictator" no other country in history has conquered other territories, overthrown the leader, and given the land back to it's people. We are giving people better lives, and i wouldn't call that horrible. just like i wouldn't call waterboarding horrible, its probably the most humane form of torture, if you think it's inhumane then go check out what other countries do to torture people
EatACracker 9 months ago
@mellowmark1 and we don't care. join us or die
blitzer1110 9 months ago
@blitzer1110
I will never join the dark side of the force.
mellowmark1 9 months ago
"i couldn't bear paying a $1000 dollars for them to torture me, so I talked um down to $800", you sir are a haggling master!
MrBronco1991 10 months ago
In other words you think criticizing US policies automatically makes you prejudiced.
Besides, you said "many people -- consider America worse than al-Qaeda" and I said I think so too. That's hardly "calling it".
Africa and Latin America are full of examples of right wing dictators just as brutal as any of the leftist ones. And even if there was the kind of correlation you claim, it'd be naïve to think that'd be the decisive factor for America's co-operation.
It's all about profit, I'm afraid.
tuoz1 11 months ago
I've had this too in my training. Lasted about 25 min. Then stage 2 when they put a piece of fabric in my throat. After a few minutes I told them to stop. You can see this man is well trained. The average for people who aren't trained for this is not more than a few minutes only in stage 1....
xxluskiexx 11 months ago
mr jumpsuit really wanted a golden shower.fruit cake
billthestinker 1 year ago
He laughed at the end, so the method is fine you pussies.
redarrowhead2 1 year ago
al quaida verdient auch waterboarding
1999sofi1 1 year ago
I could see how someone would give in to waterboarding. Its one thing to last 30mins in a session but to keep going at that 24/7 is another thing, so yea sooner or later you will break and tell the truth or lie, just to make it stop.
CadetCPL2606 1 year ago
Al Quada pulls out your fingernails or beheads you
drob2112 1 year ago 2
@drob2112 My bet is every single people has done this. They did that in Japan, they did that in Germany, and they seem to like beheading a in Latin America, too.
sekoha 11 months ago
@drob2112 That's the thing, there was a huge outcry over Abu Ghraib, despite not a single prisoner being killed or otherwise permanently physically disabled, and when al-Qaeda responded by sawing off an innocent civilian contractor's head on video, the same people who were outraged did not make any thing near the same fuss about it, in fact, in the Muslim world, they were totally silent.
This proves that there exists a huge moral and intellectual void in critics of the U.S. war on terror.
Re5Publica 11 months ago
@Re5Publica The quote in the end was pretty good: "It's not about who they are, it's about who we are." I think it's strange how so many are surprised that the world holds US to a different standard than a terrorist organization. Actually, I don't think Al-Qaida is even really an organization anymore, but rather an ideology behind a myriad of small groups. Anyway, this line of argument to defend torture is kind of like beating up a ten year old and then saying he started it.
tuoz1 11 months ago
@tuoz1 Many people I've argued with consider America worse than al-Qaeda. Belief in the Muslim world that 9\11 was an inside job is mainstream, and the argument that America killed millions of people in Iraq (despite the actual number being nowhere near that) is often cited. America is held to a higher standard only so that it can be criticized more easily than its enemies.
Your analogy is totally inappropriate. K. S. Mohammed planned the crushing, choking and burning to death of 3000 people.
Re5Publica 11 months ago
@Re5Publica I think America is worse than Al-Qaida. Not because of the methods, but because of the scope of it: decades of supporting dictators to drain poor countries of resources plus a whole lot of individual atrocities. US isn't the only one doing that of course, but it is the biggest one. World can't afford a power of that magnitude to lower it's standards any further.
Psychologically it's clear that the reason why Muslim world thinks so is because they think it was a horrible thing to do.
tuoz1 11 months ago
@tuoz1 It's rare to have my statements so thoroughly vindicated by the person I'm arguing with.
I can't imagine which countries you think are being plundered by the U.S. Gulf arabs don't even pay taxes because americans buy their oil at such high prices. Your view is prejudiced and shallow.
Compare dictators america supports to those they oppose. Compare Mubarak's and Ghadaffi's response to civil revolt.
al-Qaeda tries hard to keep countries in poverty and misery, you shouldn't ignore it.
Re5Publica 11 months ago
@Re5Publica Ahh prejudiced...the magic word of every argument. I've studied these issues and seen the situation in a few 3rd world countries so I'm not pre-judging, I'm judging. It is however prejudiced for you to call my view prejudiced.
Sure things are pretty well in the Gulf, they have half of all the oil. It's not like they get a better price for it. Also they are less blatantly dictatorial than many other's like Yemen, Turkmenistan and Eq. Guinea, so more money trickles down the ladder.
tuoz1 11 months ago
@tuoz1 Keep in mind of course the oil in the arabian peninsula was discovered by U.S. geologists.
Actually, I had you all figured out... remember you saying you thought America was worse than al-Qaeda? I called it before you said it. I was right in my judgement.
Last I checked when al-Qaeda had a base in Afghanistan, people were being beaten for shaving their beards and playing music. But, now thanks to American intervention, the Afghan Star finale was watched by 1\3rd of the country.
Re5Publica 11 months ago
@Re5Publica Do you seriously think US sided with Mubarak and not Gaddafi because he's a nicer man? That's funny! Comparing dictators America supports to those they oppose will simply show you others are left wing others are right wing. Btw, Egyptian troops were also ordered to fire, they refused.
Who is ignoring the shit al-Qaida does?
How exactly have I vindicated any of your statements?
tuoz1 11 months ago
@tuoz1 Yes, clearly. There's no question the worst totalitarian world leaders are anti-US. Left-wing dictators have traditionally been far more authoritarian and murderous, which should explain the choice. Remember Cubans and North Koreans are still not even permitted to leave their countries.
The fact that foreign press were reporting from Egypt, and were protected by Egypt's military shows again that Mubarak may have been an autocrat, but not totalitarian like Nkorea, Libya, Cuba, or Iran.
Re5Publica 11 months ago