Mike Walter, pentagon witness, CNN, 17:14, 9/11

[MrCleanboy12]

this guy is a bad liar.shitty acting. this guy makes me sick..no plane did that its so obvious..look at the hole and it tells you everything. something not shaped like an airplane made that hole..

[PatriotRadioMilitia]

mike walter is a lying disinfo agent , the real whiteness was the first person interview who told the same story but it was a missile with wings that went right over his head , they never replayed it , instead hours later they got this phony to spin the truth . listen to the real whiteness statement @1:25 in this video watch?v=Y0Z6-GZd3Nc

[wellifthemediasaysit]

TO DATE theres isnt 1 PIC OR VID that even shows a commercial airliner used on 9/11! its ASTONISHING!! missing plane at pentagon and the 4th that 'melted in a field (shot down), the only footage of the 1st plane hitting wtc is a blur, there are NUMEROUS SHOTS of the 2nd plane hit wtc, but not one shows the colours/tail of an AA or UA jet, they have all been altered, if you watch closely you can make out a blue/white tail! THAT IS NOT A PASSENGER JET!! Watch 'september clues' on YT! 9/11's a lie

[gerty335]

"It was unbelievable to watch" Yes Mike its unbelievable to conceive a boeing 757 flying over your head but you never seemed to mention the ear splitting noise as it supposedly passes over you. You never talk about the light poles being hit, no fuel spraying all over. I guess Mike doesnt really utilize his other senses of smell and hearing. Just that cruise missle that had AA on the side and the huge explosion. Selective details with the human emotion switch at the end, and a tear.

[cinderskenney]

he fails to mention the second plane that was behind it. My next door neighbor was there that day, not far from the pentagon doing construction and he clearly saw a second plane tailing the first plane and then turn off from the pentagon....

[Oz1976]

@cinderskenney The plane you're referring to was a military C130 prop plane, the pilot is on record for being asked by the FAA to tail AA 77 and then pulled away as he watched the plane dive for the Pentagon.

youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ag6brfWr­o

[dethbysterotype]

journalists are a part of this madness of lies also here in europe.

[Thebirdgang20]

This guy is lying, there is no way you could read the AA markings on a 757 coming in over 500mph, all u would see is a blur! Plus No way a 575 can fly that low at them speeds without falling apart, another case of lying goverment run news, 9-11 inside job

[andynyazai]

Debris on the overpass? How? Is he suggesting debris flew back hundreds of yards from the pentagon back towards the overpass? Hummm....NO! Where is the debris at the point of impact?

[burnthermit]

no way did a commercial airplane cause that much damage to that building. definitely a bomb or missile

[phlyegles43]

@burnthermit A plane is basically a missile when its traveling at 500mph. In fact the plane would cause more damage considering it came in at an angle paralell with the ground unlike where a missile would come in at a downward angle. Bombs need to be dropped by planes. Not one person reported seeing a missile. But 136 did report seeing a plane.

[supergooddeal]

@burnthermit Does that mean Mike is lying?

[PatriotRadioMilitia]

@supergooddeal hell yes ,.this guy is a lying disinfo agent , the real whiteness was the first person interview who told the same story but it was a missile with wings that went right over his head , they never replayed it , instead hours later they got this phony to spin the truth . listen to the real whiteness statement @1:25 in this video watch?v=Y0Z6-GZd3Nc

[Thetan1974]

Anyone else who think there's a stunning similarity to this guy and the character "Carter Burke", played by Paul Reiser, from the "Aliens" movie?

[dallasgoldbug]

a cruise missile HAS wing!

[jaylowblow]

@dallasgoldbug

Yes, and they also have American Airlines logo drawn on them.

[dallasgoldbug]

@jaylowblow especially the ones use in black flag operations

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 You don't need to be an expert to look at the reports of the white vans and realize nobody talks about them now. You are either a troll or just very ignorant to the fact that we have valid questions and concerns. Read one of David Ray Griffen's books and let me know which points you disagree with.

[simonnaylor]

How about instead of all of us debating and arguing these 911 issues, they have a real investigation and give us all the proper explainations? That's the whole point.

911 should be tought in Univesrities and most people I know don't even know the date it happened. Most people would fail the exam of basic questions.

[CrazyRay7979]

@simonnaylor

There is no "real investigation" needed just because Truthers are too dumb to learn and understand science & architecture

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 What kind of science do you need to understand that several white vans were stopped in New Jersey and New York on 911 from Urban Moving systems which were reported to be full of explosives, at least one of them exploding, and one of them had a mural of a plane crashing into NY painted on the side. You don't think that is worth investigating or mentioning in the Comission report? Why do so many of you want to block an attempt to better under the attacks to make our world safer?

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 So while we are the ones who are listening to professional scientists, architects and engineers, you are saying we are the ones who don't understand science & architecture? How many of them have you listened to or watched present their cases regarding 911? We are listening to experts who have concerns.

[CrazyRay7979]

@simonnaylor

LOL, you're the ones listening to the college kids who made Loose Change, Alex Jones, Charlie Sheen, conspiracy theory books and websites, etc....no reputable authority on science and architecture is a Truther

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 We are listening to the former head of U.S. inteligence Major General Albert Stubblebine, Professional architect Richard Gage, Nobel peace prize nominee Dr David Ray Griffen and many reputable professionals. You don't need to be an expert to look at the pentagon photos and see there are no wing marks on the walls.

[CrazyRay7979]

@simonnaylor

You're absolutely correct, you don't need to be an expert to look at the Pentagon photos and see there are no wing marks on the walls...all you have to do is look at the completely collapsed section of the Pentagon where the plane hit and be smart enough to realize that there aren't any "wing marks" (LOL) because that section collapsed...do you have any more stupid things to say that clearly point to you not knowing what the hell you're talking about???

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 Dude, are you for real? You do know that there was only a hole there for quite a while before the building collapsed? There were unbroken windows next to the hole and no wing marks. Come on man. You must know at least this much to keep coming back here.

[CrazyRay7979]

@simonnaylor

Haha, you have obviously NEVER seen a pic of the Pentagon on 9/11..."only a hole", LOL, got any more Pentagon Strike and/or Loose Change garbage to parrot???

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 Yes, there was an entry hole and an exit hole. And the building collapsed after a while but not when it was initially hit. I've watched the video of it collapse. I've looked at every photo and video I'v been able to which would be many. What is the point you are trying to make? it seems more like you have never seen a photo of it before the building collapsed or the video of it collapsing.

[CrazyRay7979]

@simonnaylor

"Entry hole" and "exit hole", you're hilarious...the ummm, "entry hole" was the entire sectionof the Pentagon...and if you really need me to lay it out for you: (DOT)oilempire(DOT)us/pentagon­-hole(DOT)html

[ed11561]

@CrazyRay7979 "Entry hole" and "exit hole", you're hilarious...the ummm, "entry hole" was the entire sectionof the Pentagon...

YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT-THE ENTRY HOLE WAS NOWHERE NEAR THE ENTIRE SECTION OF THE PENTAGON ASSHOLE.

[ed11561]

@CrazyRay7979

watch?v=SFz7gLz7CVk&feature=re­lated

there was only a small hole-less than 20' across asshole.NOT THE WHOLE SECTION U FUCKING LIAR.

Funny how they show the columns BEING BLOWN OUT FROM THE INSIDE.Rather than columns being pushed in by a plane.

WAKE UP U DISINFO LYING FUCKTARD.

[CrazyRay7979]

@simonnaylor

Stubblebine has zero proof of explosives, especially since no explosive residue was found anywhere...and what are Gage's credentials? He has no work experiences in any high-rise building...Griffin is just another fraudster and conspiracy nut who somehow managed to write a book full of BS that was already completely debunked...oooooh, sooo "reputable", your "movement" is just full of "professionals", I'm sure...so who else have you got???

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 Ray, who do you consider a reliable source? There is also Eric Lawyer, a first responder fire fighter. There are the scientists who wrote the Jornal of 911 studies which document the several dust samples taken from the Trade center. Richard Gage and David Ray Griffen (who wrote7 books regarding 911, not 1) are quite reputable. Any way. I appreciate the debate. Hope you'll ceck out some of this and let me know if there is any info you think I should check out. All the best.

[CrazyRay7979]

@simonnaylor

Eric Lawyer is one firefighter, the majority calls him a nutjob, and he's a SEATTLE firefighter...conspiracy theory books are not reputable, especially when they repeat the same debunked crap yet once again and/or are full of wild accusationsand if you're talking about the group of fools that claim they found "thermitic material" in the WTC dust, then you haven't read their paper and the paper has no credibility

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 Tell me which if any fire fighters call Eric Lawyer and nut job and tell me one point he makes that you disagree with. The papers are peer reviewed which means they are credible enough to take seriously. Have you looked up the 911 white vans yet and understood that they have been left out of the official Government 911 Conspiracy theory? I'll give you the last word because us arguing doesn't help anything. Look up the 911 vans.

[CrazyRay7979]

@simonnaylor

Gee, it's not hard to figure out that the firefighters for "truth" are the minority...and the papers were NOT peer reviewed, they were paid to be published in the Bentham, which once posted a "paper" that a word generating program created...why don't you know any of this? Oh, I know...it's because you read idiotic books that talk about several white vans which IF they had existed or had explosives in them (they didn't) had ultimately nothing to do with the WTC or Pentagon attack

[ed11561]

@CrazyRay7979 Eric Lawyer is one firefighter, the majority calls him a nutjob, and he's a SEATTLE firefighter

HEY DUMMY- 1ST RESPONDERS WERE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

But that's ok u can believe the bogus 911 commission-whose members themselves said it was BOGUS. Or THE MYTHBUSTERS or Popular Mechanics. lol

[CrazyRay7979]

@ed11561

...but Eric Lawyer was not in NY on 9/11, so what's your point?

If you think the plane hit the Pentagon and only left a 20' hole then you have NO IDEA what you're talking about...you can look at pictures of it and clearly see that there's not really a "hole", nor is it 20'...

Where do you get your BS info from? ...and it's sad that people like yourself could actually believe such foolish nonsense

[valuecreation75]

"Cruise missile with wings"?????

[skibee50]

Mike , We still just CAN"T believe it

[074August]

Flt #s 11, 77 are twin masonic numbers. 11 represents sun cycle. 11 yrs from 1st GHWB NWO speech 911 1990 to 911 2001.

77 represents Mercury, god of Trade & Commerce, also called Hermes, God of Information (AKA, Lucifer) bringer of Illumination. Luficer is the God of Trade according to Ezekiel 28:16.

93 is gematria, numerical value for the word will (thelema), Law & also love hence Aleister Crowleys famous saying 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law, love is the law love-

more

[074August]

under will' being narrowed down into numbers: 93 93 93/93. That is how those who follow thelema and Crowley's work greet each other.

175 represents the Merovingian dynasty which still maintains its legitimacy & will one day openly assert the divine right of their nobility to rule the world as an angelic race of demi-gods, whose ancestors were the fallen angels.

Barbara Bush & Ann Cappelletti=illegitimate daughters of Aleister Crowley conceived w sex magick in Paris at Abbey of Thelema 1924

[bIZAROsPRMN11]

from the lead prosecutor in the Charles Manson (ask your parents kids) trial : [] How did Bush respond to this moment of great crisis, the first deadly attack by foreigners on American soil in our history? If we didn't know what he did, no one could possibly believe it. It is so incredible that I am certain one would be extremely hard-pressed to find one other person out of a million ... who would have responded the way he did. Vincent Bugliosi - The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder

[074August]

bIZARO, 911 was a MEGA ritual.

GWB's part was to sit in a classroom w a book of "America" upside down on his lap, then read "My Pet Goat" to summon the demonic spirit of his grandfather Aleister Crowley.

Motive of 911: Preparation for the coming of the antichrist, to bring about a mass human sacrifice, the purpose of which is release of enough life-energy to give eternal life to a select group, the neopagan neocons.

Google Barbara Bush Aleister Crowley. She is Crowley's daughter

[bIZAROsPRMN11]

Raytheon and Boeing, in a joint venture,

flew a commercial Boeing aircraft by remote control

before 9-11-01

there were Raytheon and/or Boeing employees on

at least 3 of the 4 "hijacked" aircraft on 9-11-01

[]

The ... account that hijackers

commandeered ... the four 9/11 planes

is supported by ... evidence ...

Popular Mechanics - March 2005

[peachygirl630]

i love how he calls it a "cruise missile with wings." lmao. did he slip up or what?

[LVEbonys]

WHY...does this uncle caracter keep on and on....and on....and on...?

Why does he need to gain respect from other's opinion that bad?

Surfing video after video after video after video on 911 and contradicting everyone who thinks or believes differently from the released 911 report?

Why the insults? You glorify yourself in knowing it all? Is that it? How can you state otherwise? You were NOT there. There is allot you cannot explain, so you make it up with insults, is that it?

[stratocaster539]

You have to stupid to believe that a jet airliner can be flown at 500mph over a hill and across a lawn in less than half a mile at 20 - 30 feet! Impossible!

[CrazyRay7979]

It can be done, it's absolutely possible...but no licensed pilot with a $35 million plane would try it because it's suicidal

[stratocaster539]

So describe the weird physical air properties that would make it possible. Do you understand what gives a wing 'lift'?If a wing travelling at 80mph can lift an airliner of the ground then there is no way that a wing travelling over 350mph is going to fly 10 feet off the ground. You say it can be done? Any real pilot will tell you you are wrong.

[CrazyRay7979]

What? Where do you get your crap from??

The plane was coming downward into the Pentagon, it wasn't cruising around "10 feet off the ground" for some long period of time or whatever your half-baked thoughts think...what the plane did was closer to a landing than some kind of death-defying buzzing of the ground for show...

Do you have any ideas of your own or do just parrot conspiracy theory videos and do no kind of fact-checking for yourself?

[stratocaster539]

I think you need to read up on aerodynamics. You obviously don't understand what keeps a plane in the air.

[CrazyRay7979]

Oh, I'm sure...tell me Mr. Expert, how do you explain this "impossibility" then: /watch?v=S2E6EExjyQ4

I guess planes don't really land either, huh? I guess they just fall out of the sky when they reach a low altitude...understand much?

So...how about those hundreds of people who saw a plane hit the Pentagon???

[stratocaster539]

You don't need to be an 'expert' you just have to know some facts, but most of all you need to UNDERSTAND what you are looking at.

Airliners don't land at 350mph - engines are reversed - attitude is adjusted - flaps are lowered approach speed is reduced to 100-150mph.

Only very experienced pilots can pull this off -none of the alleged hijackers could have done this let alone kept a level flight at about 10-20 feet off the ground.

Use your head man.

[CrazyRay7979]

Well, the actual experts understand that this is entirely possible...and common sense would tell you that too...because it happened

Ummm, ok...but what's your point? The plane hit the Pentagon, it didn't land...where do you get this "10-20 feet off the ground" crap? You seem to think that the plane was cruising along the ground for an extended period of time

[stratocaster539]

It's pointless talking to you.There are plenty of 'experts' that say this is impossible.You need to read up on aerodynamics.When I was younger I built 7 flying models from scratch.One was a replica of an English electric lightning jet. If I hadn't applied the laws of aerodynamics they simply would not have flown.Before you criticize model making - all aircraft are tested aerodynamically as models before they are built. What do you think causes a wing to lift in the first place? Read up on it.

[CrazyRay7979]

Interesting that you don't answer questions...

So according to you, Mr. Airplane Expert, what "should" have happened to Flight 77 then as it was flying towards the Pentagon? I'd really like to hear your spin on that

The plane crashed into the Pentagon...it came at a downward angle into the building, it didn't cruise along the ground...and like I said, it happened, witnesses verified it...or do you go with the usual Truther BS and say they're all part of the thousands of people in on the scam?

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 What happened to the wings? The official report says they ended up inside the pentagon. What happened to the engines? Why did they not mark the walls or grass? How did the nose go through so many reinforced walls when it is very weak? There were most likely two planes. One that was approaching the pentagon and something lower that struck the pentagon and caused the explosion. This can be explained better with references in David Ray Griffen's book A New Pearl Harbour.

[CrazyRay7979]

@simonnaylor

Is there something about Truthers always asking the same debunked questions over and over and over and over and over...

All of your "questions" have already been answered and/or are viewable in pictures all over the internet, maybe you should look those up yourself instead of believing another moron's conspiracy theory book

[simonnaylor]

@CrazyRay7979 Nobody has debunked the white 911 vans driven by Israelies yet but they weren't mentioned in the official report. I'm up for reading any book that tries to explain what the government has refused to yet explain or even anything you recomend taht ries to explain the official story...what ever that is now. Check out Ray Griffen's book and see if it then makes more sense and if you still don't buy it, fare enough. But at least lisetn to his argument before you knock it.

Peace.

[stratocaster539]

this is the only 'witness' that felt it was necessary to have a full pro vid production solely for the purpose of corroborating his own public domain evidence.Very, very, very, very odd indeed.

[Reasonable99pct]

This man is a con liar. Look at his expressions, is pure LIE!

His body language, sight deviation shows no dougt he is a liar.

[unclesamsnephew666]

@Reasonable99pct

but he wasn't a liar when loose change deceptively edited his comments to fool gullible douchebags who want to believe 911 was an inside job, right? then he was a reliable eyewitness who saw a missile.

funny how exposing dylan and jerkoff bermas and loose change as the lying scumbags that they are suddenly makes mike walter into "a con liar."

[KombiPode]

well bermas and avery ARE jerkoff scum for allowing that film to be promoted by mainstream media and for delaying to edit it and apoligise for the unnecessary flaws such as above. I think there are over 80 uncessary flaws/deceptions in the film that have been documented BY other people who hold the opinion that 911 was a false-flag operation.

[unclesamsnephew666]

@KombiPode

"bermas and avery ARE jerkoff scum for allowing that film to be promoted..."

as if they could do anything about that. or would want to. every mention made their DVD and t-shirt cash register ring.

and truthers only began to acknowledge the lies after debunkers stacked them up to the sky. but in typical truther fashion, rather than admit their video bible was a lie, the hardcore truthtards began to accuse LC of being disinfo. so comical.

you realize this is your religion, right?

[KombiPode]

@unclesamsnephew666

"and truthers only began to acknowledge the lies after debunkers stacked them up to the sky. "

Its interesting how you make things up to decimate the Truth of the matter.

I tell you buddy, you are wrong on alot of things. There was outrage and concern from many activists working towards getting the facts known. You probably dont even realise that in late 2005 and early 2006 most of our work was getting people to know there were THREE towers which collapsed at WTC.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"...how you make things up..."

so says a truther. what irony!

"...in late 2005 and early 2006 most of our work was..."

so says you. truthers love to convince themselves of things. the idea that no one knew about WTC7 is one of them.

why not convince yourself that the east penthouse collapse alone took longer than 6.8 seconds, which is the freefall time for a building that size. there's something truthers need to get themselves to know about: the existence of the east penthouse.

[KombiPode]

@unclesamsnephew666

""and truthers only began to acknowledge the lies after debunkers stacked them up to the sky"

The website which put up a comprehensive critique of Loose Change pointing out some 80 unecessary and suggesting they were a COINTELPRO operation was a 9/11 Truth activist website.

See, you would also claim that the NO PLANERS are Trtuhers - they are considered COINTELPRO by everyone else.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"The website...a comprehensive critique of Loose Change..."

which website was that? and how long AFTER mark roberts tore LC apart was it posted?

"...NO PLANERS are Trtuhers - they are considered COINTELPRO by everyone else."

hilarious! who is "everyone else"? so since there are bigger nuts than you who agree with inside job...that means they are "agents" working against the movement? more evidence of truther immaturity. you cant even admit your fellow truthers are just wrong or insane.

[KombiPode]

@unclesamsnephew666

I can see there is no point in discussing anything with you. Good luck on your journey of willful ignorance.

[unclesamsnephew666]

surprise, surprise, another truhtard who cant take the heat.

what's wrong, kombi? I'm only asking questions.

so typical. as soon as the questions get a little too pointed and specifics start to come up, truthers always bail out.

[Reasonable99pct]

dont mess up the conversation, I am concentrating on his declaration, only. Leave this reference as a conter information aside.

WALTER IS A LIAR!

The evidence is on his on declaration.

[cwlldoran]

The amusing thing is that if you had been there you would have seen exactly the same thing he saw and someone on Youtube would be calling you what you are calling him, just for telling the truth.

[Focoist911]

maybe. But he is a whore of them no? I mean, I only went to Melbourne University studying physics, chemistry, and mathematics for 5 years to graduate to be spoken to like a fucking child and told that those towers free-fall collapsed because of fire right? You want to come at me again cunt? Bring a gun next time.

[cwlldoran]

You would seem to be a Bachelor of Arts Science , Technology and Research and Development.

[unclesamsnephew666]

@Focoist911

you studied "physics, chemistry, and mathematics" and you still think the towers fell at free-fall speed?

hilarious!!

ok, professor, explain the huge chunks of debris falling faster than the building itself. looks like those pieces falling down are moving a lot faster than the building. THEY are moving close to free fall speed. the building clearly is not.

[unclesamsnephew666]

@KombiPode

"what a con artist. What a disgusting pig, worthy of a public street hanging. Disgusting pig."

you mean dylan avery and asswipe bermas who deceptively edited mike walter's comments to make gullible douchebags believe their moronic theory right?

because that isn't even in question. you look at their use of his eyewitness comments in their dumb little video and then you look at the entire thing and it is obvious they figured enough fucking morons would believe them, right?

right.

[KombiPode]

"you mean dylan avery and asswipe bermas who deceptively edited mike walter's comments to make gullible douchebags believe their moronic theory right?"

No actually that is why their film was promoted by mainstream as the iconic cult film when it wasn't - The mainstream made that film popular so that they could shoot it down. The only reason I can wonder why Avery/Bermas put that in their doco is to undermine the Truth.

It certainly fooled you didn't it?

[unclesamsnephew666]

@KombiPode

loose change was "promoted by mainstream"??? on what planet?

"The only reason I can wonder why Avery/Bermas put that in their doco is to undermine the Truth. "

only that, huh? typical truthtard. the only possibilities are what make sense to you and whatever it takes to keep the CT that you WANT to be true alive.

like it or not, they and a couple of other people are the ones who started the truth movement.

"It certainly fooled you didn't it?" - what did?

[KombiPode]

"typical truthtard. the only possibilities are what make sense to you and whatever it takes to keep the CT that you WANT to be true alive."

There was no need to put disinformation in their doco in order to expose the lies and cover-ups of 9/11 and to paint the motives of factions within the US government and Israeli governments to carry out false-flag terrorist attacks and to show that there was no strategic interest for muslim extremists to do such an attack.

[unclesamsnephew666]

@KombiPode

"There was no need to put disinformation in their doco..."

like most truthtards, you make a huge assumption and then pack on the lame excuses for supporting info to back up the assumption that you are desperately trying to pass off as fact. you assume loose change was meant to be something other than a way to sell DVDs and t-shirts. plus, you assume religious nuts act with logic. I can hardly tell which is more absurd.

[KombiPode]

@unclesamsnephew666

"like most truthtards, you make a huge assumption and then pack on the lame"

I would appreciate you stop stereotyping political activists who hold the opinion that the US government has covered up what really happening on 9/11.

Sure, there may be young kids out there who blindly spread misinformation because of films like Loose Change - Thats my whole point. That is why Loose Change is seen to have been a COINTELPRO attack on the movement. Its old school COINTELPRO.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"Thats my whole point. That is why Loose Change is seen to have been a COINTELPRO attack on the movement."

are you really this delusional? or is this a joke?

the only reason some of the truther nuts are saying this is because as a whole the truth movement is utterly incapable of admitting they are wrong about ANYTHING. I've had about 60 conversations with truthers and exactly 3 of them were able to say "ok, that part is bullshit but I still believe inside job"

3! what does that tell you?

[KombiPode]

@unclesamsnephew666

"plus, you assume religious nuts act with logic. I can hardly tell which is more absurd."

What is absurd about the hypothesis that agents within the US government and Israeli intel carried out 9/11 to solicit their 'new pearl harbour' such that Americans would rise in support of aggressive and reckless invasions of the middle-east to dismantle Israel's enemies and ensure Israeli's survival which otherwise was looking grim?

[unclesamsnephew666]

"What is absurd..."

so you're not going to admit that expecting religious nuts to act logically is absurd? so typical of a truther. like I said, completely incapable of admitting fault regarding ANYTHING.

what is absurd about your theory would take weeks to spell out. start with the idea that pretending saudis attacked up would make americans want to invade...iraq?!?!? huh?

israel's survival was looking grim? to who? that's absurd too.

taking down the empty, unknown WTC7 was needed, too? ha!

[KombiPode]

[loose change was "promoted by mainstream"??? on what planet?]

You musn't have been paying attention the last 4-5 years. In late 2006 mainstream media started to acknowledge that there was a large % of Americans who hold the opinion of 9/11 being an inside job. Everytime they mentioned this they would cite the film Loose Change as being the most seen 9/11 film on the internet. Thanks to that millions more people would go and watch it on the internet. They would never mention any other films.

[unclesamsnephew666]

@KombiPode

loose change IS the most seen make-believe documentary on 9/11. just because they got caught in a slew of lies you now want to claim it was a disinfo campaign? it is what got most truthtards started believing this stupid shit in the first place. rather than accept that they lie throughout it and you believed them, you want to distance them from the movement. nice try, but only a super-radical (i.e. mentally ill) truthtard would buy that ridiculous argument.

[KombiPode]

@unclesamsnephew666

"Loose change IS the most seen make-believe documentary on 9/11. just because they got caught in a slew of lies you now want to claim it was a disinfo campaign?"

As I said to you, if they were 'caught' about anything it was being exposed and criticised by other 9/11 researchers for sabotaging our efforts.

2.3 seconds free-fall of WTC7 = 100% explosives involved. END OF DEBATE.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"if they were 'caught' about anything...by other 9/11 researchers for sabotaging our efforts"

can you be any more self-serving with this foolishness? you're trying to convince me that truthers were the ones who pointed out all their lies? what a joke. most truthards STILL defend this bullshit propaganda.

"2.3 seconds free-fall" - yep, not "free fall" and not "near-free fall." just 2.25 seconds. thereis a huge difference there. and no, it does not "= 100% explosives involved" one bit.

[KombiPode]

[like it or not, they and a couple of other people are the ones who started the truth movement.]

You obviously have come about these issues only recently. Loose Change was designed so that a prime-time hit piece can take just a few sound-bytes and pretend to have discredited the allegation about 9/11. COINTELPRO used all these tricks in the 70s.

[unclesamsnephew666]

@KombiPode

"Loose Change was designed so that a prime-time hit piece can take just a few sound-bytes and pretend to have discredited the allegation about 9/11."

you babbling paranoid lunatic. loose change was made to sell DVDs and t-shirts. it is why most truthtards are truthtards. they watched it, didn't check out any of the claims made, and accepted the entire bullshit theory, repeating the claims as fact.

and you want to claim it was a set-up?

how paranoid can you get?

[KombiPode]

@unclesamsnephew666

I'm sure some people were concerned by the film, some people were incited to research everything claimed in the film (as a starting point) and some people just blindly rejected it, perhaps many blindly embraced it. But having sound-byte debunks inserted all over it made it easy to turn people away from looking more into 9/11. Like you?

You sound like all you know is Loose Change.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"some people were incited to research everything claimed in the film"

too bad most truthers aren't among them. truthers swallowed it whole, didn't look into the claims, and began to repeat them as fact. which is why they have no credibility.

"perhaps many blindly embraced it"

perhaps? ha!

"Like you?" - hardly. been into this 3+ years. loose change is only the most popular. but it is no more or less full of shit than the others.

"You sound like all you know is Loose Change." - based on what?

[ed11561]

"IT WAS LIKE A CRUISE MISSLE WITH WINGS..."

BECAUSE IT WAS A FUCKING CRUISE MISSILE.NOT A JET-THE JET DID A FLYBY & THE MISSILE TOOK OVER.lol

[MrRAND0MGUY86]

This witness is a liar. Funny how the debri was on the highway and none on the Pentagon lawn. There were no tail sections, no wings, and no engines, Listen to the video of witnesses who contradict this clowns fake testimony.

[Fsxroflcopter]

There was pieces on the lawn. Look up pictures, or watch RKOwens4 video about the pentagon.

[subg88]

The problem with that is that there are photos and video of the scene with no debris, photos of federal agents carrying a huge covered box into the scene, photos of federal agents carrying debris at the scene and then photos of the scene with debris on the lawn.

[dollarbear1]

He is driving glancing up but he can tell it is "American Airlines" ..yeah right. Then he says it is like a cruise missile with wings. What is it? A plane or cruise missile?

[Fsxroflcopter]

He was talking about the style it flew like. You can tell how an american airlines or any airline that has marking looks like fag.

[johnnymac44]

It was a plane, he clearly says he saw a plane as did hundreds of other people.

[blite13]

He just can't believe this could happen, just like most of America that just can't believe this was a staged event. Many "agents" in the press that got airplay that day. Not too many just average people giving what they saw of heard. 10 minutes after the plane hits, "Osama and Al Quedai are responsible". 3 buildings fall all in the same way, testimony of explosives and the "new" NIST " case closed" explanation. Pics of the pentagon just after entry showing a small hole and a few firefighters....

[IV121212]

he lies! + where is the plane (at 1:30)

[Wabiisabii]

It's funny even as he gives that speech about the Pentagon being hit, I keep looking at the wreck site and thinking man that is way to small to be a plane that hit here. Plus what debri from the plane is he talking about being on the overpass? That is so weird that we never heard anything more about that, it would really shut up the 9/11 inside job crowd, if parts of the plane were found on some overpass near the pentagon?

[Fsxroflcopter]

A 757 is a narrow plane.

[dhucke4assembly]

Parts of the plane should be sitting inside of the building and on and around the lawn all mangled.

[subg88]

The engines are more than forty feet apart on a 757.