don't break withe two fingers allways tree fingers the last tree you have more sensibility and power break and the first and second in the throtle to control the bike in turns. sory my english if the bike is afinated to the rider the pedal already is good to shift fast but ok you right in that good video bye
So when you blip the throttle up for a sec, you don't keep it that high? I was only confused by when you said "get back to the throttle". If it's blipped, you go back down and then gently turn it up after you downshift? — Otherwise this explains everything well, I've looked all over and this is the best instruction online. Excellent video
You should have also noted that preloading the lever also causes additional transmission fork wear.
Blipping the throttle for downshifts (if you do it right) doesn't need the use of the clutch. You can slip it a tiny bit if you want. Personal pref.
Also depends what the goal is. If you're looking for absolute smoothness, get it right the first time and don't use clutch. If you're looking for equipment longevity, use some clutch. If you're a squid, ride the clutch until you smell it burning.
Let's recap the last 3 minutes 19 seconds: 1) apply pressure to the gear change lever 2) back off the throttle 3) change gear! then 4) roll the throttle back on. you know, I need you to go back over that again please - I'm not sure I've got it.
@PerfectingShots yess! haha shift all the way down if your going to comletly stop or if your going really slow. when you start from rest the gears have to be in first...this is sooo that the bike will have better acceleration and doesnt have to work the engine that hard
@Bogdyindahous It does put some additional wear on the shift forks. If you slam things in and out of gears, you can actually break shift forks. It also tends to put more load on the shift shaft bearing.
In reality the only thing that you've got to worry about doing this is mashing some teeth together and probably missing a shift, or you downshift too quickly and break the rear tire loose. The latter I do pretty regularly on my bike without thinking about it and it's no drama.
@Reduxalicious pretty much but mostly it will just ruin the clutch. the coke from the oil will stay in the clutch for the most part. but if you feather your clutch a lot you might notice that the oil will have a burnt smell or even be blackened earlier than it should.
does all motorbikes have the same manual box i mean beetween 1000cc and 125cc becouze im 16 i would like to take exam for 50-125cc motorbikes and i dont really know if shifting is like in sportbikes plz answer !!
Actually it is better you had pulled the clutch and change gear upshift.
And do the same for your downshift, pull the clutch,close the throttle, and down shift.
Only you should remember that you should release clutch slowly, very slowly indeed for all sports bikes.
Only when you apply brakes , apply the front brakes first and most of the time you have to depend on the front brake and after front brakes at your right hand , apply the rear break if required.
When I'm Switching gears I feel a strong click and hear it as well, I ride a 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 636. Is that natural or just gotta practice more on shifting gears to smooth it out? I'm a first time rider.
@moemoecake It's probably just your bike has a nice, taut gearbox that hasn't been abused yet. When in good condition, you should feel and hear good, solid engagement.
The click you're hearing is most likely the shift drum and shift pawl interacting. The pawl is typically an arm with a roller on the end that snaps in to indentations around the shift drum to ensure proper gear alignment when shifting. In good shape, they make a lovely, sharp "snick" and "snack" sound.
Your clutch? No. However, while doing this won't grenade your engine, it WILL put extra wear and tear on some of the transmission components. This is largely due to the fact, that even with practice, you won't be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Over the years, you may have find yourself requiring servicing at a shorter interval than someone doing traditional shifting. Personally, if I don't require a fast shift, and I'm not on the track, I shift normally.
@brian1321 Not even close. A lot of bikes, especially mine, require you to push down on the lever once to enter 1st gear then from there you lift the lever up for every upshift. "1 down 5 up" is what they say. Clutch is usually the safest way to shift but the technique being discussed in this vid are best used during racing or emergencies. Oh and for going into Neutral, you start from 1st and kick up half way up. Message me if you have more questions.
@brian1321 it's exactly the same. only the throttle/gas and the shifter is in a different position compared to a car/truck. it's easier than you think. when i took my bike liscense test, i had never SAT on a bike....passed it my first time and it poured rain both days i rode, first day to learn, second day to take test.
I was able to safely and effectively ride a motorcycle for the first time thanks to this video. Kudos to you, man, for thoroughly demonstrating the procedures. Thank you!
I just wanted to say thank you for the vids. I am a new rider and have been watching this video over and over. Took my bike out today and the difference was very smooth. Thanks!
I am 17 and I have a yz 80 and my shifting is almost flawless it isn't "obnoxious" as he said most people are O_o just saying... I am not saying I shift perfect I do mess up sometimes like missing a gear on the trails but yeah it is smooth and sounds pretty good from where I sit... :P
dont understand why would they come up with the clutch business at all just what ever you want and thats all it is . simple realy take clutch leaver off at all
@derf911724 its a good way to tear up the shifter forks in the transmission but other than that? naaaahhhhhhh itll be fine......because when you ride a bike its usually to have fun...not trying to kill yourself seriously thats just ignorant.
@derf911724 motorbike gearbox differs from automobile gearbox. Then it's done properly it doesn't damage anything except for making your ride swifter, safer and thefore more enjoyable.
@WhereDidItRun....I smell squid. seriously...i think id rather trust the guys that gather info. from Pro's, the guys that are actually mechanical engineers, and have more experience than mother earth to tell me that speed shifting is better than clutching. why would they install a clutch if it wasnt neccesary? if done right, using your clutch can be faster, easier, and safer than speed shifting. id rather replace clutch plates than having to replace gears or even an engine.
@rebelonstrike7 There is such thing as the "quick shifter" sure, speed shifting may put additional wear, but the idea is that the wear is small enough for you to be able to do it throughout your bike's life
thanks mate. i really learned something with this video. i was wondering about this so called speedshift for some time. you really help me out. great video and good looking suzuki! my dad's bike is a yamaha XJR1200 from '98, it's the one i practice on, xD because it's the only one we have. getting my 125cc licence soon! already passed the knowledge exam, now i must pass riding exam!
when you change gear it sounds like a gun cocking. 0:13 i love that.today i was in my garage and got on my dads bike.i was training quick starts( stop start, stop start) because i was slow as i would let the clutch really slowly since i didn't know where's the friction zone. i got better. i start quicly and smoothly. then i practiced emergency braking xD but i got too excited so i played around braking and sliding the back wheel. the front wheel also slided :O FTW fun and dangerous!
Hey I tried it yesterday and it was really easy. Missed the gear twice but the rest time it was a perfect shift and sounds better. Not sure if it's good for my clutch and gearbox. Great video thanks dude...
I really can't beloved there are ppl that own bikes and don't know about not having to clutch on the way up. I learned to ride that way from the age of six. It's much better around town tho like he said watch between 1-2 change some bikes ain't to happy with it. Well explained tho mate well done!
i got a question for you. i saw your very helpful video and went out on my 2007 honda cbr600rr and try to upshift and i worked very very well. but i could also downshift with the same exact technique so am i messing up my bike doing so?
@demfriscozboi how this works is when you upshift, you blip the throttle from on-slightly off-on while applying a light pressure to the shifter (dont even have to kick). the blip reduces the load on the transmission just long enuf for it to change gears if youre applying pressure. I really enjoy using this to accelerate quickly, much smoother than using the clutch
i also tried downshifting, which you blip from off-slightly on-off while applying pressure down on the shifter, and it will shift
@demfriscozboi cont.: i didnt like the fact that i had to speed up a little to slow down, and sometimes i wud get a nasty grinding noise here and there if i applied to much pressure or blipped it weird, and in the end i personally chose not to do it downshifting, although the vid's recommendation to pull in the throttle and blip it might help and im gonna go back and try that.
long story short: pretty much if you dont hear grinding, youre not doing anything to wrong and i wudnt worry
This was a great tutorial! On other videos of bikes racing there are sometimes comments like "too bad the rider can't shift" bla bla bla, and I never knew what they were talking about
@redcappra are you serious? how can anyone be 'bamboozled' if they have a video to go along with the explanation? maybe if they've never seen a motorcycle in their life.
If you think you know it all, go for it - see if I care. But you'll find out you need more knowledge and more judgmental to change gear safely in a wide set of circumstances and over a lot of riding. This info is not conveyed here. Get it wrong and you can hurt yourself and/or damage your bike.
Go for it - it's call the School of Hard Knocks and near death experiences.
people say this messes the bike up. i drag race an see people do it so im wonderin is it because they hav an aftermarket part to prevent it from damage or is all that stuff false about it damaging ur bike
@Tophairybutt Y hav u done it before on a streetbike? I tried it an it does sound smoother it seems to wk. hav u actually experience that happening or are u jus bein a smartass
@ixy1987 Yes, if you try to brake without using the clutch you'll fuck your transmission and as well, it means you've got the engine working against you. Tbh, I'm no expert, but just on the small amount I know about motorcycle mechanics I would say that shifting without the clutch like this guy talks about is going to do damage, it might be faster, but unless i was being chased by an axe murderer, I wouldn't do that, because I value my transmission.
@MisTaHTaKi I'm sorry and I don't want to be rude, but I've rebuilt several bikes that were rusted heaps of crap before I touched them and what you've said goe's against what experience tells me, have you never notoced that when you try to push a motorcycle when it's in gear it has resitance, well imagine what thats like when the clutch plate is engaged to the engine output and on top of that you're braking. But, each to their own I guess, it's your bike at the end of the day...
@rimfa123 no it has no resistance whatsoever. have you ever tried it? you don't ram it into gear. you preload the shifter and blip the throttle and it slips right in, really really smoothly (if you get it right) . it's better for the bike because it doesn't wear the clutch.
@MisTaHTaKi I've shifted without the clutch by mistake before and it didn't sound pretty... Idk, perhaps it's a kind of sport-bike thing? I ride a 31 y/o Kawasaki so I'd be a bit reluctant to try and do anything like that. Are you saying that the "preload" stage does something to disengage the transmission in a way similar to the clutch? Most of what I know about bikes is the petrol kind of bit...
@rimfa123 Yea if you push it into gear without blipping the throttle you'll grind your gears (same as car). I'm not sure about the preload but i think it initiates it to shift, I own a 04 cbr600rr. Considering that your bike is 31 years old, I wouldn't risk it. I don't think it's just a sportbike thing. You can do it on cars also. When you clutchless shift you're not forcing the gear in at ALL! You just put a tiny bit of pressure about blip the throttle about 2 mm (on my bike)
@thagrimiestone no that's not true, yes you have to brake (not break lol) when you're coming to a stop. You want to down shift when you are riding at a low ground speed in a higher gear that isn't suitable for that speed. When you go to a stop just press the clutch in and shift all the way down to 1st gear until you fully come to a stop. Blipping the throttle while downshifting to a stop is unnecessary, only time you do that is while riding to smooth out the shift. you are freaking retarded.
@MisTaHTaKi ...Really? You are going to tell me that you NEVER downshift when coming to a stop? EVERY person I know starts to downshift when they start coming to a stop. Plus Engine braking is GOOD for the engine as long as the Revs are low enough to downshift..so whos the retard? I've learned from experienced riders, track riders, street, etc.., Downshifting is the proper way to slow down/stop when coming to a stop sign or stop light...
@thagrimiestone Downshifting doesn't mean engine braking. This video isn't about engine braking. And also I would like to see you stop without brakes. Your quote "No Don't just use your break.", that is the most retarded line I have ever read. You can't come to a complete stop with engine braking....try to ride without brakes and you'll learn the hard way . LOL. Yes you can engine brake while coming to a stop, but really it isn't necessary.
@MisTaHTaKi LOL, ya I didn't mean don't use your break at all. When I stated don't just use your break, I meant you can combine engine breaking with the break. You don't have to JUST use the break to stop, but a combo of both. Sorry, I must of explained it wrong. Simple mistake : )
Hi mate, thanks for your help, I am getting a Honda NSR125 soon and I don't know how to change gears, I will keep watching this video untill I get it, thanks
Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
doesnt shifting without the clutch fuck up the gears and wear them down inside of ur bike... on a dirt bike you will need to buy new parts if u do this but idk about sport bikes
@JumboMuffin No. I speed shift all the time, because of this video. When I'm riding hard i'm more comfortable speed shifting now than using the clutch. It's way smoorther.
i find this very safe to do and you save alot more on your brake pads, plus it sounds real good when your downshifting on high rmps and my bike starts to go "pop pop pop,"and that way some stupid drivers know i am either behind them or beside them!!
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so what your saying is that if u have it a a high rev i can upshift without using the clutch eventhough i dont have a quickshifter?
ftfdgerardo 1 day ago
so what your saying is that if u have it a a high rev i can upshift without using the clutch eventhough i dont have a quickshifter?
ftfdgerardo 1 day ago
I guess re-engaging clutch is not a necessary step for downshifting.
foxrotom 3 days ago
And this is also how to beat down your gearbox and break shit
situationgsxr 1 week ago
For down shifting you pretty much just explained rev matching. (for those who didnt catch it)
xhappyxscreamingx 1 week ago
don't break withe two fingers allways tree fingers the last tree you have more sensibility and power break and the first and second in the throtle to control the bike in turns. sory my english if the bike is afinated to the rider the pedal already is good to shift fast but ok you right in that good video bye
lisandro364 2 weeks ago
you need to change your brake fluid...
bahnkla4 2 weeks ago
I didn't know you only had to backoff the throttle that much. thanks
tristantao 2 weeks ago
I've always found downshifting without clutch way easier, smoother and more intuitive than upshifting without clutch... Am I crazy?
corngrohlio 2 weeks ago
@corngrohlio yes...
retromurdok 2 weeks ago
So when you blip the throttle up for a sec, you don't keep it that high? I was only confused by when you said "get back to the throttle". If it's blipped, you go back down and then gently turn it up after you downshift? — Otherwise this explains everything well, I've looked all over and this is the best instruction online. Excellent video
jhalton 2 weeks ago
Grindding gears bro cut it out....
MrLovestospoog 3 weeks ago
K5 600
LightningMAS 4 weeks ago
Good video! :)
NicholasDaMally 1 month ago
You should have also noted that preloading the lever also causes additional transmission fork wear.
Blipping the throttle for downshifts (if you do it right) doesn't need the use of the clutch. You can slip it a tiny bit if you want. Personal pref.
Also depends what the goal is. If you're looking for absolute smoothness, get it right the first time and don't use clutch. If you're looking for equipment longevity, use some clutch. If you're a squid, ride the clutch until you smell it burning.
NicholasDaMally 1 month ago
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you only made one motorcycle video??? :-(
Tebaz8584 1 month ago
Please do an, on-the-road demo.
holymoly42 2 months ago
I didn't know this was an actual technique I thought it was a bad habit I had picked up haha.
daxwax1 2 months ago
yo itll be nice if you could show it on the road too
2cool0 2 months ago 2
Let's recap the last 3 minutes 19 seconds: 1) apply pressure to the gear change lever 2) back off the throttle 3) change gear! then 4) roll the throttle back on. you know, I need you to go back over that again please - I'm not sure I've got it.
m0mcx 2 months ago
@m0mcx Maybe you weren't paying attention
R0BL0W 1 month ago
@R0BL0W Yep, same old.. :)
m0mcx 1 month ago
When you stop at a stop sign or red light, do u need to down shift?
PerfectingShots 3 months ago
@PerfectingShots yess! haha shift all the way down if your going to comletly stop or if your going really slow. when you start from rest the gears have to be in first...this is sooo that the bike will have better acceleration and doesnt have to work the engine that hard
2cool0 2 months ago
thanks bro
AlRHORN 3 months ago
If u do it right, it doesn't damage the bike.
7u94t0n 3 months ago
This is how you really nigger up a bike. Oops, you black, my bad! Ride it like you stole it.
dalotel 3 months ago
If you do speed shifting like you tell us to...Will it break something in the motorcycle?...even in the longterm :D
Bogdyindahous 4 months ago
@Bogdyindahous It does put some additional wear on the shift forks. If you slam things in and out of gears, you can actually break shift forks. It also tends to put more load on the shift shaft bearing.
In reality the only thing that you've got to worry about doing this is mashing some teeth together and probably missing a shift, or you downshift too quickly and break the rear tire loose. The latter I do pretty regularly on my bike without thinking about it and it's no drama.
NicholasDaMally 1 month ago
@NicholasDaMally Thx man for the info ;)
Bogdyindahous 1 month ago
so basicly, you can throttle while holding the clutch without burning it out?
yourmom13666 4 months ago
@yourmom13666 You can't burn a wet clutch..
Reduxalicious 3 months ago
@Reduxalicious not true. you can cook the oil into the clutch
turtlemann14 3 months ago
@turtlemann14 Well if that happens on my bike my entire engine would be fucked seeing as the Engine and Clutch are all one oil System.
Reduxalicious 3 months ago
@Reduxalicious pretty much but mostly it will just ruin the clutch. the coke from the oil will stay in the clutch for the most part. but if you feather your clutch a lot you might notice that the oil will have a burnt smell or even be blackened earlier than it should.
turtlemann14 3 months ago
does all motorbikes have the same manual box i mean beetween 1000cc and 125cc becouze im 16 i would like to take exam for 50-125cc motorbikes and i dont really know if shifting is like in sportbikes plz answer !!
111seeit 4 months ago
@111seeit Yes the only thing that may be different is the number of gears some have 5 most have 6 though.
ecookman 4 months ago
Actually it is better you had pulled the clutch and change gear upshift.
And do the same for your downshift, pull the clutch,close the throttle, and down shift.
Only you should remember that you should release clutch slowly, very slowly indeed for all sports bikes.
Only when you apply brakes , apply the front brakes first and most of the time you have to depend on the front brake and after front brakes at your right hand , apply the rear break if required.
gopalvenuraja 5 months ago
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@gopalvenuraja
What, did you just finish your motorcycle safety course?!
"Only you should remember that you should release clutch slowly, very slowly indeed for all sports bikes."
The experienced sport rider lets his clutch out VERY quickly :p
"apply the rear break if required."
The rear brake will not be "required." :)
Morginie 4 months ago
did your throttle honk at me? 4:10
cmccutc 5 months ago 47
thank you for your detailed explanation
jonasxxxx 5 months ago
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black guy teachin me..no way..he gonna make me wreck nigga lol jk im mixed so its okay =)
bestbassbooster 5 months ago
When I'm Switching gears I feel a strong click and hear it as well, I ride a 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 636. Is that natural or just gotta practice more on shifting gears to smooth it out? I'm a first time rider.
moemoecake 6 months ago
@moemoecake It's probably just your bike has a nice, taut gearbox that hasn't been abused yet. When in good condition, you should feel and hear good, solid engagement.
The click you're hearing is most likely the shift drum and shift pawl interacting. The pawl is typically an arm with a roller on the end that snaps in to indentations around the shift drum to ensure proper gear alignment when shifting. In good shape, they make a lovely, sharp "snick" and "snack" sound.
NicholasDaMally 1 month ago
Can you ruin your transmission like this/ Clutch?
CrazyBoyDD 6 months ago
@CrazyBoyDD
Your clutch? No. However, while doing this won't grenade your engine, it WILL put extra wear and tear on some of the transmission components. This is largely due to the fact, that even with practice, you won't be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Over the years, you may have find yourself requiring servicing at a shorter interval than someone doing traditional shifting. Personally, if I don't require a fast shift, and I'm not on the track, I shift normally.
opmike343 5 months ago
what model bike is this?
bkboy747 6 months ago
@bkboy747 suzuki gsxr
5NOOPY615 6 months ago
The concept of upshifting and downshifting is about the same as driving a manual transmission car, right?
brian1321 6 months ago
@brian1321 Not even close. A lot of bikes, especially mine, require you to push down on the lever once to enter 1st gear then from there you lift the lever up for every upshift. "1 down 5 up" is what they say. Clutch is usually the safest way to shift but the technique being discussed in this vid are best used during racing or emergencies. Oh and for going into Neutral, you start from 1st and kick up half way up. Message me if you have more questions.
XxBillyGoatNinjaxX 6 months ago
@XxBillyGoatNinjaxX
Oh, I see. Is that what it was you spoke about in this video? To push the lever up just a tad? .. To put it in neutral?
brian1321 6 months ago
@brian1321 I didnt make the vid. Dont know if youre being serious or an ass but i was just answering your question.
XxBillyGoatNinjaxX 6 months ago
@XxBillyGoatNinjaxX
Oh, lmao. Didn't look at the username when I replied. No, I was being completely serious. Lmao
brian1321 6 months ago
@brian1321 it's exactly the same. only the throttle/gas and the shifter is in a different position compared to a car/truck. it's easier than you think. when i took my bike liscense test, i had never SAT on a bike....passed it my first time and it poured rain both days i rode, first day to learn, second day to take test.
chubbytummydavid 4 months ago
thx for the vid. it helped me learn to ride my bike.
swoloncolon1 6 months ago
I was able to safely and effectively ride a motorcycle for the first time thanks to this video. Kudos to you, man, for thoroughly demonstrating the procedures. Thank you!
ghostie108 7 months ago
I just wanted to say thank you for the vids. I am a new rider and have been watching this video over and over. Took my bike out today and the difference was very smooth. Thanks!
C.C.
cornelius1906 7 months ago
I am 17 and I have a yz 80 and my shifting is almost flawless it isn't "obnoxious" as he said most people are O_o just saying... I am not saying I shift perfect I do mess up sometimes like missing a gear on the trails but yeah it is smooth and sounds pretty good from where I sit... :P
jacktheripper0194 8 months ago
Seems like speed shifting would be hard on the tranny, am I right?
wckdclwn911 8 months ago
@wckdclwn911
It is.
ecnahc515 8 months ago
@ecnahc515 how hard will it wreck it?
87apx 7 months ago
@87apx
Very. The transmission is under compression if you down shift with out the clutch, and that will wear your clutch out really fast if you do it.
ecnahc515 6 months ago
Want to see speed shifting...check my page.
SPOOKSTR 9 months ago
dont understand why would they come up with the clutch business at all just what ever you want and thats all it is . simple realy take clutch leaver off at all
denizio20 9 months ago
so not using the clutch won't damage the bike? and why would you wanna speed shift on a motorcycle? Unless your racing and trying to kill yourself
derf911724 9 months ago
@derf911724 its a good way to tear up the shifter forks in the transmission but other than that? naaaahhhhhhh itll be fine......because when you ride a bike its usually to have fun...not trying to kill yourself seriously thats just ignorant.
faded2blak 4 months ago
@derf911724 motorbike gearbox differs from automobile gearbox. Then it's done properly it doesn't damage anything except for making your ride swifter, safer and thefore more enjoyable.
WhereDidItRun 3 months ago
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rebelonstrike7 2 months ago
@WhereDidItRun....I smell squid. seriously...i think id rather trust the guys that gather info. from Pro's, the guys that are actually mechanical engineers, and have more experience than mother earth to tell me that speed shifting is better than clutching. why would they install a clutch if it wasnt neccesary? if done right, using your clutch can be faster, easier, and safer than speed shifting. id rather replace clutch plates than having to replace gears or even an engine.
rebelonstrike7 2 months ago
@rebelonstrike7 There is such thing as the "quick shifter" sure, speed shifting may put additional wear, but the idea is that the wear is small enough for you to be able to do it throughout your bike's life
tristantao 2 weeks ago
Great job. U kept it simple
tbag8794 9 months ago 10
What bike is this?
SkullzCross 9 months ago
@SkullzCross a gsxr, either 600 750 or 100, not sure
sfedqw 9 months ago
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ssergeispb 8 months ago
I natrualy do this on four wheelers
joeyakabert 9 months ago
Nice bike! Thx
panter244 9 months ago
it's 2:13 actually
Poltergeyst 9 months ago
thanks mate. i really learned something with this video. i was wondering about this so called speedshift for some time. you really help me out. great video and good looking suzuki! my dad's bike is a yamaha XJR1200 from '98, it's the one i practice on, xD because it's the only one we have. getting my 125cc licence soon! already passed the knowledge exam, now i must pass riding exam!
Poltergeyst 9 months ago
when you change gear it sounds like a gun cocking. 0:13 i love that.today i was in my garage and got on my dads bike.i was training quick starts( stop start, stop start) because i was slow as i would let the clutch really slowly since i didn't know where's the friction zone. i got better. i start quicly and smoothly. then i practiced emergency braking xD but i got too excited so i played around braking and sliding the back wheel. the front wheel also slided :O FTW fun and dangerous!
Poltergeyst 9 months ago
Nice vid, will upshifting without the clutch on ruin the transmission?
TheCrazymook 10 months ago
@TheCrazymook nope as long as your doing it right
EugeneF15 9 months ago
i shift up without using the clutch(sometimes) but your always suppose to use the clutch to downshift
terrell568 10 months ago
Down shifting with out the clutch can ruin the tranny-FACT
rhettly 10 months ago
Hey I tried it yesterday and it was really easy. Missed the gear twice but the rest time it was a perfect shift and sounds better. Not sure if it's good for my clutch and gearbox. Great video thanks dude...
sandhar1234567890 10 months ago
well... with practise and a veeeery sharp throttle I claim that it's possible to downshift smoothly without using the clutch ;)
flubbablubba123 11 months ago
A blip is aka rev matching. You match the rev when down shifting before letting the clutch out to avoid the jerking motion and wear on the clutch.
Rasossi2314 11 months ago
It cant be good for the bike to shift with no clutch all the time?
toweronepower 11 months ago
just a quick question, when I shift up a gear do pull the throttle a little bit up?
shittalker1989 1 year ago
Believe **** iPhones lol
richclio172 1 year ago
I really can't beloved there are ppl that own bikes and don't know about not having to clutch on the way up. I learned to ride that way from the age of six. It's much better around town tho like he said watch between 1-2 change some bikes ain't to happy with it. Well explained tho mate well done!
richclio172 1 year ago
i got a question for you. i saw your very helpful video and went out on my 2007 honda cbr600rr and try to upshift and i worked very very well. but i could also downshift with the same exact technique so am i messing up my bike doing so?
demfriscozboi 1 year ago
@demfriscozboi how this works is when you upshift, you blip the throttle from on-slightly off-on while applying a light pressure to the shifter (dont even have to kick). the blip reduces the load on the transmission just long enuf for it to change gears if youre applying pressure. I really enjoy using this to accelerate quickly, much smoother than using the clutch
i also tried downshifting, which you blip from off-slightly on-off while applying pressure down on the shifter, and it will shift
bloodmoneyXIII 1 year ago
@demfriscozboi cont.: i didnt like the fact that i had to speed up a little to slow down, and sometimes i wud get a nasty grinding noise here and there if i applied to much pressure or blipped it weird, and in the end i personally chose not to do it downshifting, although the vid's recommendation to pull in the throttle and blip it might help and im gonna go back and try that.
long story short: pretty much if you dont hear grinding, youre not doing anything to wrong and i wudnt worry
bloodmoneyXIII 1 year ago
appreciate the video my dude
Theboyking567 1 year ago
Does it work with 50cc?
Break2beCool 1 year ago
Thanks
Dustin8569 1 year ago
WHATTTTT?!
zakipad 1 year ago
it wouldn't damage the bike by not using the clutch ?
skyline4562 1 year ago
@skyline4562 it shouldn't if done correctly, no.
thehaloguy 1 year ago
@skyline4562 Edit: while up shifting that is
thehaloguy 1 year ago
This was a great tutorial! On other videos of bikes racing there are sometimes comments like "too bad the rider can't shift" bla bla bla, and I never knew what they were talking about
smwishy 1 year ago
Nice video - Thank you for posting.
thepopularjock 1 year ago
Don't give up your day job!!!!
You might be able to do it but as sure as hell you can't explain it.
A novice would be completely bamboozled by that explaination.
redcappra 1 year ago
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robbversion1 1 year ago
@redcappra are you serious? how can anyone be 'bamboozled' if they have a video to go along with the explanation? maybe if they've never seen a motorcycle in their life.
great video! *thumbs up*
robbversion1 1 year ago
@redcappra I got it and im new to this.
Dustin8569 1 year ago
@Dustin8569 And you know this because..........?
If you think you know it all, go for it - see if I care. But you'll find out you need more knowledge and more judgmental to change gear safely in a wide set of circumstances and over a lot of riding. This info is not conveyed here. Get it wrong and you can hurt yourself and/or damage your bike.
Go for it - it's call the School of Hard Knocks and near death experiences.
redcappra 1 year ago
@redcappra Lets see you make a video then.
Dustin8569 1 year ago
n1
mroovax 1 year ago
That was a nice tutorial sir..thanks a lot!
kirkscream 1 year ago
stop trying to other dumb heads crotch rocket sattles how to kill themselves
FrancCaparzo 1 year ago
@FrancCaparzo what?!
sorenbraybrook 1 year ago
@thebipolarpolarbear not young annymore im 16 and a i ride a cr500 not a 125
redneck1994 1 year ago
I'm a new rider and I wanted to ask a thing...What happens if you upshift without pressing the clutch? does the bike "scratches"? like cars?
BBoyXy 1 year ago
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nice bike, mine was Honda CBR600F3, it was hella sweet bike til them chains broke and put my riding off. gonna buy a Harley soon.
AP9311 1 year ago
nice bike, is it Honda built?> mine was Honda CBR600F3, it was hella sweet bike til them chains broke and put my riding off. gonna buy a Harley soon.
AP9311 1 year ago
@AP9311 its has a nice big S on the truple clamp...
oCannabusdriver 1 year ago
@oCannabusdriver and the tankpad kinda gives it away lol
oCannabusdriver 1 year ago
pretty nice example, but you also need to show how change gears to neutral
lanlug 1 year ago
people say this messes the bike up. i drag race an see people do it so im wonderin is it because they hav an aftermarket part to prevent it from damage or is all that stuff false about it damaging ur bike
streetkings05 1 year ago
its called clutchless shift.. DUH!!!
LightningMAS 1 year ago
does this work on a moped "yamaha tzr"
Corkys94 1 year ago
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MisTaHTaKi 1 year ago
yer and i wonder how much a new gearbox costs in the long term NOT good for gearboxes
chrisjamster 1 year ago
@chrisjamster you're not forcing it into gear, it slips in. you can argue that it might cause damage but it's not significant. i think.
MisTaHTaKi 1 year ago
Does this pose any damage potential on clutch or gears?
Dennissays 1 year ago
when you say apply pressure and put your fingers like that...it reminds me of going to the doctor and getting a hernia check.
jOWNZin22 1 year ago
thnks man !
DannyBoy9514 1 year ago
Yeah you idiot, nothing like wearing out the synchronizers in your gearbox! This is just another example of how stupid american motorcyclists can be.
Tophairybutt 1 year ago
@Tophairybutt Y hav u done it before on a streetbike? I tried it an it does sound smoother it seems to wk. hav u actually experience that happening or are u jus bein a smartass
streetkings05 1 year ago
do u need to use the clutch to come to a halt like in a car ??
ixy1987 1 year ago
@ixy1987 Yes, if you try to brake without using the clutch you'll fuck your transmission and as well, it means you've got the engine working against you. Tbh, I'm no expert, but just on the small amount I know about motorcycle mechanics I would say that shifting without the clutch like this guy talks about is going to do damage, it might be faster, but unless i was being chased by an axe murderer, I wouldn't do that, because I value my transmission.
rimfa123 1 year ago
@rimfa123 clutch-less shifting will not damage the bike, and you don't have to press in the clutch when braking.
MisTaHTaKi 1 year ago
@MisTaHTaKi I'm sorry and I don't want to be rude, but I've rebuilt several bikes that were rusted heaps of crap before I touched them and what you've said goe's against what experience tells me, have you never notoced that when you try to push a motorcycle when it's in gear it has resitance, well imagine what thats like when the clutch plate is engaged to the engine output and on top of that you're braking. But, each to their own I guess, it's your bike at the end of the day...
rimfa123 1 year ago
@rimfa123 no it has no resistance whatsoever. have you ever tried it? you don't ram it into gear. you preload the shifter and blip the throttle and it slips right in, really really smoothly (if you get it right) . it's better for the bike because it doesn't wear the clutch.
MisTaHTaKi 1 year ago
@MisTaHTaKi I've shifted without the clutch by mistake before and it didn't sound pretty... Idk, perhaps it's a kind of sport-bike thing? I ride a 31 y/o Kawasaki so I'd be a bit reluctant to try and do anything like that. Are you saying that the "preload" stage does something to disengage the transmission in a way similar to the clutch? Most of what I know about bikes is the petrol kind of bit...
rimfa123 1 year ago
@rimfa123 Yea if you push it into gear without blipping the throttle you'll grind your gears (same as car). I'm not sure about the preload but i think it initiates it to shift, I own a 04 cbr600rr. Considering that your bike is 31 years old, I wouldn't risk it. I don't think it's just a sportbike thing. You can do it on cars also. When you clutchless shift you're not forcing the gear in at ALL! You just put a tiny bit of pressure about blip the throttle about 2 mm (on my bike)
seiyab24 1 year ago
@seiyab24 whoops sorry I used my brother's account haha.
seiyab24 1 year ago
@seiyab24 Ah, well thanks for the info anyway;)
rimfa123 1 year ago
try riding the bike you fool
jarenmanpk 1 year ago
I can't just use the brake to slow right down then? I have to change gears?
thefonejackers 1 year ago
@thefonejackers No Don't just use your break. The proper way to come to a stop is to gradually downshift until you get to first.
thagrimiestone 1 year ago
@thagrimiestone no that's not true, yes you have to brake (not break lol) when you're coming to a stop. You want to down shift when you are riding at a low ground speed in a higher gear that isn't suitable for that speed. When you go to a stop just press the clutch in and shift all the way down to 1st gear until you fully come to a stop. Blipping the throttle while downshifting to a stop is unnecessary, only time you do that is while riding to smooth out the shift. you are freaking retarded.
MisTaHTaKi 1 year ago
@MisTaHTaKi ...Really? You are going to tell me that you NEVER downshift when coming to a stop? EVERY person I know starts to downshift when they start coming to a stop. Plus Engine braking is GOOD for the engine as long as the Revs are low enough to downshift..so whos the retard? I've learned from experienced riders, track riders, street, etc.., Downshifting is the proper way to slow down/stop when coming to a stop sign or stop light...
thagrimiestone 1 year ago
@thagrimiestone Downshifting doesn't mean engine braking. This video isn't about engine braking. And also I would like to see you stop without brakes. Your quote "No Don't just use your break.", that is the most retarded line I have ever read. You can't come to a complete stop with engine braking....try to ride without brakes and you'll learn the hard way . LOL. Yes you can engine brake while coming to a stop, but really it isn't necessary.
MisTaHTaKi 1 year ago
@MisTaHTaKi LOL, ya I didn't mean don't use your break at all. When I stated don't just use your break, I meant you can combine engine breaking with the break. You don't have to JUST use the break to stop, but a combo of both. Sorry, I must of explained it wrong. Simple mistake : )
thagrimiestone 1 year ago
Hi mate, thanks for your help, I am getting a Honda NSR125 soon and I don't know how to change gears, I will keep watching this video untill I get it, thanks
thefonejackers 1 year ago
wouldn't it damage the bike if you do not use the clutch?
singalling 1 year ago
Is it not bad for your transmission to not use the clutch?
casterofchaos 1 year ago
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Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
fsnyder350 1 year ago
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Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
fsnyder350 1 year ago
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Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
fsnyder350 1 year ago
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Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
fsnyder350 1 year ago
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Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
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fsnyder350 1 year ago
Great vid. Quick question - When you downshift do you hold the clutch in until you kick it down? Or do u just pull it in for a moment when u blip the gas then let it out, then you kick it down?
fsnyder350 1 year ago
doesnt shifting without the clutch fuck up the gears and wear them down inside of ur bike... on a dirt bike you will need to buy new parts if u do this but idk about sport bikes
laxboi905 1 year ago
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Great video thank you. Just been out on the blade and got it right first time, makes for a much smoother ride. I can see it coming in handy.
craigrichardlamble 1 year ago
Great video thank you. Just been out on the blade and got it right first time, makes for a much smoother ride. I can see it coming in handy.
craigrichardlamble 1 year ago
1-2nd gear is always kindof a bitch. .. . . . . why dont gearbox's go N-1-2-3-4-5-6.....? there must be a technical answer for this... someone?
julingy 1 year ago
dude thnx a lot ..i always had some problem with..u helped me alot ...cheers mate
gansters212 1 year ago
great post ... easiest ive ever herd this explained ... thanks
ZacGot1 1 year ago
what about older bikes? i have an 84 fj1200. it doesnt seem to upshift without the clutch. is it because im not preloading first?
osoevil94 1 year ago
Does this work with dirt bikes (2 stroke) like the speed shifting or will that mess up my clutch? and what about down shifting? plz rply thnks
nysk8r247 1 year ago
so you don't need to have the throttle at idle while upshifting?
carlmathias 1 year ago
@carlmathias Not at all.
GixxerGuy13 1 year ago
does it affect bad to the bike when upshifting without clutch?.. please answer
and good video i got everything you was talking about .. i think haha ^^
JumboMuffin 1 year ago
@JumboMuffin No. I speed shift all the time, because of this video. When I'm riding hard i'm more comfortable speed shifting now than using the clutch. It's way smoorther.
GixxerGuy13 1 year ago
Up shifting is best if you don't unload all the power when shifting. Another term I've heard is floating, but I don't that it applies here.
Downshifting is unloading all power. Then give enough power to shift easily. Then unload again. The word blerp sounds funny to me.
easydoz1 1 year ago
i find this very safe to do and you save alot more on your brake pads, plus it sounds real good when your downshifting on high rmps and my bike starts to go "pop pop pop,"and that way some stupid drivers know i am either behind them or beside them!!
StuntRider00 1 year ago
i learned to do this when i was 7 the maybe 3rd week i had my dirtbike anyone can do this
redneck1994 1 year ago