@signature50 This is exactly the kind of behavior that people tend to dislike about the Brits: thinking that you're inherently better than other cultures, and that your particular brand of facetiousness and irony is oh so clever and of course that's why Americans can't understand it. Now, since I prefer to not make negative generalizations about other countries and cultures, I think I'll just attribute this level of arrogance and hauteur to you, and not to Brits in general.
Masterpiece! As the song plays, and the unsung lyrics say, "If it takes forever, I will wait for you...", we see the two former lovers behave according to their new lives, one transformed by motherhood and her marriage and the other by fatherhood and his marriage, acting into their new responsibilities. It was just a song, a romantic sentiment, but it was not, as it could never, be the reality. Will you pass me that box of kleenex, please?
Film revolucionario de Demy, nunca valorado como merece, nunca superado, la puesta, actuación y música, todo perfecto y sublime.- Historia de aparente sentimentalismo, pero de una cruda realidad de la vida que depara a las personas.-
It' s complex...like life itself...different opinions, different points of views...different moments in life,,,all valid. To each it' own. Romantic plot...go figure!
Their last look says it all: they are still in love with each other. However, Guy is now torn apart by a possible love (Madeleine, who proves that it's possible to love twice) and an impossible (Geneviève), the latter his true love - the love of his life. Geneviève feels deep regret for not having waited for him and having followed her mother's advice. But she was only seventeen at the time and such young girls are easily manipulated by their mothers. He regrets not having married her (cont)
@definetelyours (cont) before leaving to Algeria - because that way, they would have been happy and it wouldn't have been so hard for her to wait (if he had married her, she wouldn't have been carrying a fatherless child during his two-year absence). Geneviève has married up but lives an unhappy life. Guy has a family and is happy, although never as happy as he would have been with her. He feels resentment of her for not waiting for him, though he doesn't understand he is responsible too (cont)
@definetelyours (cont) because he made her pregnant. She was innocent and naïve, only seventeen, you cannot really blame her for her decision to marry another. She hates herself for having been so easily manipulated by her mom and he can't bare the fact that she left him without a word. However, one thing is clear: after all these years, despite living more or less happy lives with their families, they still love each other. That is shown by their children's names. And again, that last look...
Saw this movie on TV first when I was 15 or so and I still don't get why Guy is not interested in seeing his daughter. This really bothers me; I cried off and on for days when I first saw it. I understand that *life goes on* and all, but this is brutal...
@margaretcanton I think he had seen her from a bit of a distance when he went out to the car...I can understand his point...how terribly painful it would have been for him to get any closer :_-(, and he would know he could not have contact with her. The children is always what makes these kind of broken romances so painful.
Guy appeared to be such a good guy, but he really wasn't. He totally disregarded Genevieve's urgent need to marry him. Had he married her before he bedded her and before he went to Algeria, they would have ended up together forever. Instead, he thought only of his own needs. Then, pregnant and not hearing from Guy, thinking him dead, Genevieve was under pressure to marry another, not out of greed, but to give her child a father.
He did love her deeply, and she loved him deeply, too. Even a great love can go bad if we do not feed it. She gave in to fear and money in getting married, and the great love they really did have died slowly when it did not have to. When one door closes sometimes another opens. He loves his wife now because of what they made together and how they treated each other. Fate does not trump our choices. Relationships last or fail based on what we do in them, not in what fate says.
This film epitomizes the 1960s, when they were trying everything - and it seemed so fresh. The ending alone is musically heavy, but the film as a whole is fascinating to see for musicians.
The detractors are all talking bollocks. No doubt they'll be happy when one day the film is re-made in the good old USA with Mariah Carey and Justin Timberlake in the lead roles, and new music by Andrew Lloyd-Webber. The combined work of Jacques Demy, Michel Legrand, etc, stands the test of time, it's quite simply a sublime film in every respect, and anyone who says otherwise should be beaten about the head with a wet stick of celery.
@signature50 with Matiah Carey and Justin Timberlake ? woaaaaahhhhhhh...no dude, they don't have the voices to sing it....Now, our tastes have changed over the years...I admit, but this is a PURE FRENCH FILM which anglo saxons can't imitate anyway....
@privatelasoprivate79 Er...actually I was being facetious, ironic, and several similar things not quite understood on the other side of the pond. Great to think it was taken literally though! (I notice you don't mention the barbed reference to Andrew Lloyd-Webber either)
Isn't anyone troubled by the fact that she rolls down the window, gets out of the car, claims that it's cold out and leaves the kid in the open car to freeze her ass off? And how about Guy exercising the limits of cranial capacity by firing one up at the gas station?
'Cuz it was there and I felt curiosity, but tonigh I watched Antonioni's "L'Eclisse" and I loved it. At least Monica Vitti and Alain Delon didn't act like automatons. My favourite bit in this abomination is when the attendant sings:"Does Madame want me to fill it up? "Yes, fill it up"...."Super or regular?" .Cole Porter it ain't!!!
@Garramedia would you settle for Gershwin, maybe? Or how about Sondheim? Your comment cracked me up. I must admit the 'super or regular' was a buzz-kill in the romanticism department, but I still shed a small tear at the end. And then I go check the oil...
Thank you, bertbretherton! A hundred percent correct. It is such a truly beautiful film moment. I've never walked out of a theatre where the entire audience wasn't sniffling - me included. I try not to watch it more than once a year or so - as a treat. Gets me every time. And, I'm not a 'mushy' type.
Bitter/sweet or not, those who have shared a love such as that in this quite brilliant film, have enjoyed richer, if sadder, lives. The sweet before the bitter.
It's hard to know who turned out happier. From Guy's guarded responses, it seems Guy likes and respects, but may not actually love, his wife. Not seeing Genevieve with her husband, can't know how they are doing. When Genevieve first entered the gas station's office she did look it over a bit - she's used to way better things now and probably couldn't go back to Guy's lifestyle. This painful encounter will enable both to move forward with their current spouses, closing the door on the past.
very sad ending ...to a sad beginning .....sometimes life is like that.......QUESTION: who turned out happier, him or her ? I think he did....what do you think ?
I just had an insight. Guy moved close to Genevieve when he asked her if she was in mourning. Could he have been hoping she had become a widow? Maybe in the future there will be a sequel to this when both Guy and Genevieve end up single again and finally get married - like they should have when he first got orders to go to Algeria!! Movie makers out there - pay attention!! That could be a hit!! And this time we want a happy ending!!
I find Guy's wife cloying and rather creepy in the way she comes onto him in her clingy octopus fashion. He responds to her with what I feel is a show of forced affection, never looking at her the way he did Genevieve. Earlier in the movie Guy said, "Il faut essayer d'etre heureux" and that's what he is doing - trying to be happy. And Genevieve looks so much older with a numb affect. The light has gone out in her eyes. She's a hollow mannequin. I can't stand it!
What makes this movie so bittersweet is that both Genvieve and Guy missed out on living their great love together forever. They were truly soul mates. I believe Genvieve thought Guy was dead when she married the diamond merchant to give her baby a father. Both Guy's and Genvieve's spouses rescued them from their darkest hours and both truly loved them, but their marriages did not involve "le grand amour" that Guy and Genvieve had. Both had to settle for second best and make the most of it.
I disagree that he has stopped loving her. Both have moved on with their lives, but both still appear to have very strong feelings for each other. This is apparent by the way he invites her into the office and then lights up a cigarette. When she asks if he is alright, he says that he is fine, but looks down sadly. However, he is resigned to duty to his family (as he was his draft responsibility). He then plays overly energetically with his son to help himself deal with what just happened.
Amazing movie, amazing scene. Notice how the guy is asking if she wants "super" or "regular" gasoline and the woman can't decide. If you've seen the movie you know that she chose rich man (super) instead of this gas station owner (regular guy). Ingenious!
sigh, it's so sad. it's like, in the office, deep down guy really wants an explanation for what happened and genevieve wants to explain but neither know where to start or the first thing to say to break the ice.
the only thing that REALLY pissed me off about madeleine was that gloating smile she had on when she saw genevieve coming out of the church right after being married. i get that madeleine secretly loved guy but the way her smile (to me) said, "YES!!! She's out of the way!" really pissed me off. overall she seems like a nice girl and maybe that wasn't the intention of the smile but that's how it came off to me.
I remember the promisses I gave! It doesn`t matter anything now, but then - I gave them - it was importent! The only thing is matter now, the memory, my youth and the love I felt then!
@hyricanigor I had no idea that schmerz & douleur were the same. Love that :) Je parle un peu de Francaise si mauvais. Ich nicht sprechen zie Deutch :)
stupid whore couldn't wait and in the end she has the audacity to ask him if he is okay. I've always wondered why movies don't have more realistic endings in the sense that like most of our lives things don't end idealistically and I've come to the conclusion it is for the greater good of society and even more so the individual that most movies end on a very positive and hopefu note because a couple movies like this would send me into the abyss of depression and angry.
@motney555 well if your a grown up can you please tell me what the movie is about. her mother in the movie kept telling her to find a man who in essence is well off to be able to take care of her and she marries the jeweler not because she loves him like she loves guy but because he is capable of taking care of her financially. When someone sells themselves for money they are a whore. She might be an indirect whore but a whore none the less.
@aaarrreee She fell in love with him and bore his child. He went to war and did not communicate in anyway. He abandoned her. What was she supposed to do in that era? She had a duty to care for her child. Do you believe every relationship is based on a Romeo and Juliet type love?
And what about him? He gets pissed, shags a prostitute and marries a woman he does not love. What a good ol boy! There is no male version of "Whore"
I conclude by saying Stupid whore was over the top.
@motney555 His actions are simply a reaction to her uncalled for behavior. love and logic are eternal enemies. his heart will always want the stupid whore but logically he made the right decision he married the girl that was loyal to him and was there to support him. he made the right choice. He didn't adandon her if it was up to him he would have much rather stayed with her that is what to whole conflict is about.
@motney555 what do you mean that era this took place in the 20th century in a modern country France. Who do think had it worse guy who went to war and could possible die any day or the stupid whore who just had a child big deal. Love is unconditional thats like saying an american joins the army with a wife and a child on the way on september 10 2001 and a week later she leaves because of the possibility that he might die and that he isn't there anymore.
@motney555 yes all the good relationships are like romeo and juliet. thats like saying I shouldn't strive to be like bill gates, president obama, etc. someone has to be a janitor might as will be me. As a women which I think you are you should be conerned with being a loyal and respectable individual not a selfish traitor. Guy isn't perfect but what a lot of women don't understand is that most men are only as good as their lovers in life give them to opportunity to be.
@aaarrreee "he married the girl that was loyal to him and was there to support him" Thats exactly what she did! yet shes a stupid whore but hes at worst "not perfect" again the good ol boy scenario. "Who JUST had a child" You seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder about women and children whether thats due to personal experience or not its not right. As for me I am a middle aged married family man so there goes another of your theories.
@motney555 She was supportive to Guy in an emotional way she choose the other guy because he was supportive in a financial way. Its sad you give so much credit to women for just being women and not taking any responsibility for their actions. I have no chip on my shoulder I have never been married and don't have any children most likely because I think before I act and if you want a criticism of guy I would never have a child and then abandon the child and let a whore and some fool raise my kid.
@aaarrreee Oh Dear, your bigotry has overshadowed any pretence of intelligent conversation. The female race can be grateful you are single and will without doubt remain so. I’m finishing any further communications now as you have dragged it down to your own perverse view on women such that you cannot even write a sentence without the word “whore” in it.
@motney555 I keep using whore to get a honest response out of you. I really want to see if you truly in your heart of hearts think the the girl is more innocent then the guy. It's clear as water. Just answer the question who is more at fault here for the failed relationship guy or genevieve. I think numerous roads can lead to the same destination so I'm just trying to understand your perspective. and female is not a race it is a gender and they tend to like me but only for short periods of time.
@motney555 Also it's sad that I thought you were a women when in reality your a man. I have another theory you have probably been divorced like 2 times. You think like a sucker. That women is a fool and a whore and she should be held responsible. Guy is a whore monger and a deadbeat for his actions but you can't deny that his feelings defined by his actions are much more sincere then the girls actions. This is all I have to say. It was nice debating with you good luck with everything.
@aaarrreee And please don't take any offense I really believe what I'm stating but just because we don't agree doesn't mean I should seek out help. LOL that was pretty funny and they say there is always a bit of truth in humor. Anyways it was nice talking to you I don't want to end my chat with you on a negative note so all the best to you. A true sign of a civilized person is understanding and respecingt what someone else holds true and I respect your opinion. . . . but your wrong :}
I think the ending might have been even more moving had his wife not been quite so beautiful. Deneuve, of course, is one of the all-time great beauties of cinema, but Guy's wife is also very pretty. Imagine if she were a little more plain-Jane -- then the fact that he let Genevieve go and embraced his family would have had that much more meaning and impact -- giving up on the exquisite beauty and dream love of youth for the solid, sure love of family, without hesitation. But I quibble.
Although I initially saw the ending as absolutely tragic and heartbreaking, actually it's not. The last thing we see is not the guy staring after the car with longing and sadness in his eyes, but him playing with his child and wife as if nothing had just happened.
It's not about two lovers who were torn apart. It's about two young people who thought they couldn't live without each other but could, and a happy life too. A strikingly realistic finish to a very romantic and sentimental film.
@peponwi I agree Guy does not stare the car with longing sadness in in eyes butt we can see Genevieve does not want to leave him . She tries to stay the longer she can in the office, asking him questions , if he wants to see their daughter but he almost order her to leave ...
So , for him it's an "happy ending" but for Genevieve , we can guess she'll be stuck with a husband she doesn't love and she'll regret Guy for the rest of her life maybe .
One more thing; Steve McQueen must have liked the work of Michel Legrand. McQueen had Legrand compose the music for The Thomas Crown Affair, Bullit, LeMans, and The Hunter (McQueen's last movie). Was Legrand involved with other McQueen movies of which I am not aware?
Thanks a whole lot. Now I have to buy the DVD to watch the entire movie. Seriously, thank you very much for providing the motivation for me to buy the DVD. This movie is a masterpiece. For the two sociopaths who do not like this'; I feel sorry for you that you lead such an unhappy life.
It is bittersweet for Geneviere and for that portion of the audience that wanted she and Guy to be together for life, but I don't think it is bittersweet at all as the story. Notice how she cannot bear to look at him, whereas he looks directly at her with a disinterest that borders on disdain. It is clear that he believes she betrayed him and therefore his only affection is for the memory of their past. Geneviere is aware of this--note how she refers to Francois as "my" daughter not "our."
While Deneuve is unbelievably beautiful, Guy's wife is not only every bit as beautiful, but also charming, smart, devoted, happy in her own right, and obviously crazy about him. I would choose her in a heartbeat.
You can really tell that he has moved on with life and stopped loving her. But with her...you can tell there's regret and desire to still be with him with the way she turns as she leaves and asks if he's fine. Small things like that make this all the more realistic, even if every word is sung.
@gothicgrace i agree. you can definitely sense the deep regret she has. she has a comfortable life but one that seems pretty devoid of the passion she felt with guy. i think his former feelings for her are battling with his resentment of her for not waiting. i think it's easy for us to say, well, she should've just waited. i really wish she had but i can see how, as time passed, her will got weaker, especially with her mom pressuring her. for genevieve, i think she hates herself for this.
@nlcatter ...oh... dearest but he is. He loves Madeleine. And isn't it better for both of them? What terrible destiny to pursue what wasn't meant to be?
@gothicgrace i agree with you.. he probably feels a lot of resentment toward her.. despite the jerk a few comments down who said "WRONG" .. what a douchebag
@gothicgrace Actually I feel the opposite. I think he is ashamed that he did not marry her & thus does NOT want to see his child. He can see that she married UP & that he stayed the same or down. Just my opinion. But I think that the song says it all. If it takes forever, I will wait for you,. Their hearts are stil entwined, but their lives have moved on. :) xo
@penguinmama88 I wouldn't say he was ashamed - he just can't dare allow himself to go there emotionally. She was forced to marry someone she didn't love and still has his child. He at least has found others to love. If it takes forever - says it all.
I've got my son Vladimir 1996 w.b. and I've got my son Leonid 2004 w.b.Their mothers are different. Ljonja is more than the World for me. Volodja - is my pain too.
He could at least took some effort to see the little girl. After all, its his. And you never know, maybe one day she will be at his doorstep trying to find out what her father is like.
Thanks for letting me see this picture - finally. Very romantic and bittersweet. How much easier is it for beautiful people to be romantic? [bittersweet ?etc]. The rest of us just get bitter.
Con mi difunta esposa la pude ver tal vez mas de tres veces despues de veinte años vuelvo a verla y con ella uedlve el recuerdo de mi esposa. Dios la tenga en la gloria y la Virgen Maria la pueda acompañar.
Contento de ver la pelicula de nuevo
como veo la traduccion de la cancion.. quisiera cantarla
I have been looking for a French musical film that I caught on German tv some years ago. I thought it was Umbrellas of Cherbourg but it wasn't. There was a young girl running around in a fur coat looking for someone and she called into a shop full of televisions. I know it is not a lot to go on but someone out there must know it
Genevieve leaves the gas station without saying farewell, that's understandable perhaps, but even without paying for the oil?!?
is it such a matter of course that both of them did not care about such a thing at such a moment?
or, is G. entited to expect a gratis filiing from Guy? money would have been very likely rejected even if G. tried to pay, but even not mentioning to that....
or, they both simply forgot ?
or, am I such a mean person thinking in such a category before such a scene?
I think Guy genuinely loves Madeleine in the end. Perhaps not with the passion he had for Genevieve when he was 20 years old. But who's to say that Guy and Genevieve would have loved each other with that same passion after 10 years? I think Guy would be just as happy with Genevieve as with Madeleine. That is why he does not seem to regret in the end. Sure it is sad, but realistic. Guy and Madeleine are happy. We're not sure about Genevieve, but it seems like she wishes it ended otherwise.
This movie is a masterpiece. Too bad that it is all but unknown in the US as the Hollywood studios dominate and Americans won't read subtitles. Only La Boheme opera achieves this deep level of profound emotion.
This is one of the saddest films that I've ever seen, and the music is so beautiful that it adds to the torture. Is it a tragedy? -No, it is a reality. Guy and Geneviève are torn apart symbolically - as France was torn apart by the war in Algérie. They both had to find their own way in the world - but alone.
saddest ending ever
Alevamltd 14 hours ago
The should have done a sequel based in the lives of the two children.
IvanoSalcedo 2 days ago
Damn, shes beautiful.
whoopdeedoodude 3 weeks ago
This film is killed me just 7minutes.
Great film. Beautiful!
lennon199191 3 weeks ago
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deCaravagio 3 weeks ago
Is this the woman who is singing in the latest Absolutely Fabulous show?
JEANNE DURAND ?
Anyone?
CushionOfWealth 4 weeks ago
@CushionOfWealth "Jeanne Durand" is a fictional character created up by Jennifer Saunders and played by Lindsay Duncan.
aleksiniemela 3 weeks ago
@signature50 This is exactly the kind of behavior that people tend to dislike about the Brits: thinking that you're inherently better than other cultures, and that your particular brand of facetiousness and irony is oh so clever and of course that's why Americans can't understand it. Now, since I prefer to not make negative generalizations about other countries and cultures, I think I'll just attribute this level of arrogance and hauteur to you, and not to Brits in general.
Synesthete015 1 month ago 4
Masterpiece! As the song plays, and the unsung lyrics say, "If it takes forever, I will wait for you...", we see the two former lovers behave according to their new lives, one transformed by motherhood and her marriage and the other by fatherhood and his marriage, acting into their new responsibilities. It was just a song, a romantic sentiment, but it was not, as it could never, be the reality. Will you pass me that box of kleenex, please?
RoboSlater 1 month ago 3
Like a flashback to being home from school with a cold with TMC on the telly. Crying like I did 7 or 8 years ago that I watched this.
VitaminMePlease 1 month ago 2
Such an end...
Atnimnjin 1 month ago
Catherine, bella, un ángel del amor sin más.-
robertoluishernande1 1 month ago
Film revolucionario de Demy, nunca valorado como merece, nunca superado, la puesta, actuación y música, todo perfecto y sublime.- Historia de aparente sentimentalismo, pero de una cruda realidad de la vida que depara a las personas.-
robertoluishernande1 1 month ago
４０年前に観ました。 切なさの極み。
zohsun 2 months ago
@zohsun この映画は感情のための彼の偉大な点では非常に"日本人"です。
xnewtime 1 month ago
It' s complex...like life itself...different opinions, different points of views...different moments in life,,,all valid. To each it' own. Romantic plot...go figure!
1943carlosrodriguez 2 months ago
Their last look says it all: they are still in love with each other. However, Guy is now torn apart by a possible love (Madeleine, who proves that it's possible to love twice) and an impossible (Geneviève), the latter his true love - the love of his life. Geneviève feels deep regret for not having waited for him and having followed her mother's advice. But she was only seventeen at the time and such young girls are easily manipulated by their mothers. He regrets not having married her (cont)
definetelyours 2 months ago
@definetelyours (cont) before leaving to Algeria - because that way, they would have been happy and it wouldn't have been so hard for her to wait (if he had married her, she wouldn't have been carrying a fatherless child during his two-year absence). Geneviève has married up but lives an unhappy life. Guy has a family and is happy, although never as happy as he would have been with her. He feels resentment of her for not waiting for him, though he doesn't understand he is responsible too (cont)
definetelyours 2 months ago
@definetelyours (cont) because he made her pregnant. She was innocent and naïve, only seventeen, you cannot really blame her for her decision to marry another. She hates herself for having been so easily manipulated by her mom and he can't bare the fact that she left him without a word. However, one thing is clear: after all these years, despite living more or less happy lives with their families, they still love each other. That is shown by their children's names. And again, that last look...
definetelyours 2 months ago
magnifique !!!!
arno33arno1 2 months ago 3
Catherine Deneuve is simply radiant in this film.
ZeekWolfe1 2 months ago
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I cry in the end of this movie, this movie is very good
StarStars100 3 months ago
Saw this movie on TV first when I was 15 or so and I still don't get why Guy is not interested in seeing his daughter. This really bothers me; I cried off and on for days when I first saw it. I understand that *life goes on* and all, but this is brutal...
margaretcanton 3 months ago 3
@margaretcanton I think he had seen her from a bit of a distance when he went out to the car...I can understand his point...how terribly painful it would have been for him to get any closer :_-(, and he would know he could not have contact with her. The children is always what makes these kind of broken romances so painful.
gurlsingerfan 3 months ago
Guy appeared to be such a good guy, but he really wasn't. He totally disregarded Genevieve's urgent need to marry him. Had he married her before he bedded her and before he went to Algeria, they would have ended up together forever. Instead, he thought only of his own needs. Then, pregnant and not hearing from Guy, thinking him dead, Genevieve was under pressure to marry another, not out of greed, but to give her child a father.
snootbox 3 months ago 5
perfect ending !
emceezvn 4 months ago
The ending broke my heart. What a wonderful love story, one of the BEST!
Jubinne
jubinne 4 months ago 4
todos los grandes amores llevan una cuota de desgracia en si mismos,,,pero es peor no vivirlos..
aircat29 4 months ago
He did love her deeply, and she loved him deeply, too. Even a great love can go bad if we do not feed it. She gave in to fear and money in getting married, and the great love they really did have died slowly when it did not have to. When one door closes sometimes another opens. He loves his wife now because of what they made together and how they treated each other. Fate does not trump our choices. Relationships last or fail based on what we do in them, not in what fate says.
pfewell 4 months ago 3
This film epitomizes the 1960s, when they were trying everything - and it seemed so fresh. The ending alone is musically heavy, but the film as a whole is fascinating to see for musicians.
gayforlife2020 4 months ago
they never stopped loving each other...
herman2725 5 months ago
@nlcatter SLIGHTLY WRONG- he never really loved her, while she had safely delivered and brings his baby with love afterall.
aosanshou 5 months ago
She didn't pay for her petrol!!
staraneshy 5 months ago 5
@staraneshy, her banker in the car. )
Ishakovskiy 4 months ago
The detractors are all talking bollocks. No doubt they'll be happy when one day the film is re-made in the good old USA with Mariah Carey and Justin Timberlake in the lead roles, and new music by Andrew Lloyd-Webber. The combined work of Jacques Demy, Michel Legrand, etc, stands the test of time, it's quite simply a sublime film in every respect, and anyone who says otherwise should be beaten about the head with a wet stick of celery.
signature50 5 months ago 24
@signature50
Brilliant comment. Absolutely right. This film rocks.
mjwemdee 5 months ago
@signature50 even we, stupid american rednecks can appreciate a good movie. why do you think we remake them at all?
fishdude77 2 months ago
@signature50 with Matiah Carey and Justin Timberlake ? woaaaaahhhhhhh...no dude, they don't have the voices to sing it....Now, our tastes have changed over the years...I admit, but this is a PURE FRENCH FILM which anglo saxons can't imitate anyway....
privatelasoprivate79 1 month ago
@privatelasoprivate79 Er...actually I was being facetious, ironic, and several similar things not quite understood on the other side of the pond. Great to think it was taken literally though! (I notice you don't mention the barbed reference to Andrew Lloyd-Webber either)
signature50 1 month ago
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exeuroweenie 1 month ago
a jbt..... :(
dzajadzaja1 5 months ago 2
Isn't anyone troubled by the fact that she rolls down the window, gets out of the car, claims that it's cold out and leaves the kid in the open car to freeze her ass off? And how about Guy exercising the limits of cranial capacity by firing one up at the gas station?
senikle 5 months ago 3
@senikle So funny. I was thinking the same thing!
bluejean74 4 months ago
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Vmaxjorge 6 months ago
'Cuz it was there and I felt curiosity, but tonigh I watched Antonioni's "L'Eclisse" and I loved it. At least Monica Vitti and Alain Delon didn't act like automatons. My favourite bit in this abomination is when the attendant sings:"Does Madame want me to fill it up? "Yes, fill it up"...."Super or regular?" .Cole Porter it ain't!!!
Garramedia 6 months ago
@Garramedia would you settle for Gershwin, maybe? Or how about Sondheim? Your comment cracked me up. I must admit the 'super or regular' was a buzz-kill in the romanticism department, but I still shed a small tear at the end. And then I go check the oil...
senikle 5 months ago
Thank you, bertbretherton! A hundred percent correct. It is such a truly beautiful film moment. I've never walked out of a theatre where the entire audience wasn't sniffling - me included. I try not to watch it more than once a year or so - as a treat. Gets me every time. And, I'm not a 'mushy' type.
uszoninyc 6 months ago 2
Bitter/sweet or not, those who have shared a love such as that in this quite brilliant film, have enjoyed richer, if sadder, lives. The sweet before the bitter.
bertbretherton 6 months ago
I remember seeing this as a fourteen year old and crying buckets. It's still sad even now. Carol.
GraceyQueen 6 months ago 2
Jeez...I saw this film when it was first released and I HATED IT!...I haven't seen anything of it till now AND I STILL HATE IT!!!!
Garramedia 6 months ago
@Garramedia Then WHY are you watching it?
uszoninyc 6 months ago
It's hard to know who turned out happier. From Guy's guarded responses, it seems Guy likes and respects, but may not actually love, his wife. Not seeing Genevieve with her husband, can't know how they are doing. When Genevieve first entered the gas station's office she did look it over a bit - she's used to way better things now and probably couldn't go back to Guy's lifestyle. This painful encounter will enable both to move forward with their current spouses, closing the door on the past.
snootbox 6 months ago
very sad ending ...to a sad beginning .....sometimes life is like that.......QUESTION: who turned out happier, him or her ? I think he did....what do you think ?
NOCASTRONOPROBLEM 6 months ago
I just had an insight. Guy moved close to Genevieve when he asked her if she was in mourning. Could he have been hoping she had become a widow? Maybe in the future there will be a sequel to this when both Guy and Genevieve end up single again and finally get married - like they should have when he first got orders to go to Algeria!! Movie makers out there - pay attention!! That could be a hit!! And this time we want a happy ending!!
snootbox 6 months ago
I find Guy's wife cloying and rather creepy in the way she comes onto him in her clingy octopus fashion. He responds to her with what I feel is a show of forced affection, never looking at her the way he did Genevieve. Earlier in the movie Guy said, "Il faut essayer d'etre heureux" and that's what he is doing - trying to be happy. And Genevieve looks so much older with a numb affect. The light has gone out in her eyes. She's a hollow mannequin. I can't stand it!
snootbox 6 months ago 2
What makes this movie so bittersweet is that both Genvieve and Guy missed out on living their great love together forever. They were truly soul mates. I believe Genvieve thought Guy was dead when she married the diamond merchant to give her baby a father. Both Guy's and Genvieve's spouses rescued them from their darkest hours and both truly loved them, but their marriages did not involve "le grand amour" that Guy and Genvieve had. Both had to settle for second best and make the most of it.
snootbox 7 months ago 3
I disagree that he has stopped loving her. Both have moved on with their lives, but both still appear to have very strong feelings for each other. This is apparent by the way he invites her into the office and then lights up a cigarette. When she asks if he is alright, he says that he is fine, but looks down sadly. However, he is resigned to duty to his family (as he was his draft responsibility). He then plays overly energetically with his son to help himself deal with what just happened.
snootbox 7 months ago 2
not a dry eye in the theater, that haunting melody.
magbast9 7 months ago
Amazing movie, amazing scene. Notice how the guy is asking if she wants "super" or "regular" gasoline and the woman can't decide. If you've seen the movie you know that she chose rich man (super) instead of this gas station owner (regular guy). Ingenious!
jnieminen2 7 months ago
The look on Guy's face when he looks through the car window and sees Genevieve (2:28) breaks my heart every single time.
annabellee8 7 months ago
To see and to Die...
Server571 7 months ago 2
Hey wait a minute. She didn't pay for the gas!
ganixaba 7 months ago
@ganixaba LOL. his child support?
jansumi 7 months ago
Maybe they can re-shoot this scene and lose the "man purse."
chenarch 8 months ago
One of the most exquisite scenes ever on film. The whole thing was shot as if inside a snow globe. Beautiful, just beautiful.
kryptonbear 8 months ago 2
@kryptonbear wow, i never thought about it like that, but i totally see what you mean about the snowglobe effect. it's like a reverse snowglobe.
christentze 8 months ago
smoking is NOT allowed in a gas station.
wampawampa 8 months ago
@wampawampa its France ...smoking is allowed in a operating theatre
motney555 8 months ago
sigh, it's so sad. it's like, in the office, deep down guy really wants an explanation for what happened and genevieve wants to explain but neither know where to start or the first thing to say to break the ice.
christentze 8 months ago
the only thing that REALLY pissed me off about madeleine was that gloating smile she had on when she saw genevieve coming out of the church right after being married. i get that madeleine secretly loved guy but the way her smile (to me) said, "YES!!! She's out of the way!" really pissed me off. overall she seems like a nice girl and maybe that wasn't the intention of the smile but that's how it came off to me.
christentze 8 months ago
I remember the promisses I gave! It doesn`t matter anything now, but then - I gave them - it was importent! The only thing is matter now, the memory, my youth and the love I felt then!
TheJucika 9 months ago
Il n'y a pas de détachement sans douleur...!! Es gibt keine Loslösung ohne Schmerz.
hyricanigor 10 months ago
@hyricanigor I had no idea that schmerz & douleur were the same. Love that :) Je parle un peu de Francaise si mauvais. Ich nicht sprechen zie Deutch :)
penguinmama88 7 months ago
It`s a sad ending.....
creation2010 10 months ago
This movie is simply superb. The music sublime. Thank you.
fobesq 10 months ago 3
she didn't pay for the gas
kookykrumbs 11 months ago
@kookykrumbs LOL
mamzilla 10 months ago
I meant anger
aaarrreee 11 months ago
stupid whore couldn't wait and in the end she has the audacity to ask him if he is okay. I've always wondered why movies don't have more realistic endings in the sense that like most of our lives things don't end idealistically and I've come to the conclusion it is for the greater good of society and even more so the individual that most movies end on a very positive and hopefu note because a couple movies like this would send me into the abyss of depression and angry.
aaarrreee 11 months ago
@aaarrreee"Stupid whore" ? Wow what an intelligent person you are. Try watching the film and then ask a grown up what its all about.
motney555 11 months ago
@motney555 well if your a grown up can you please tell me what the movie is about. her mother in the movie kept telling her to find a man who in essence is well off to be able to take care of her and she marries the jeweler not because she loves him like she loves guy but because he is capable of taking care of her financially. When someone sells themselves for money they are a whore. She might be an indirect whore but a whore none the less.
aaarrreee 11 months ago
@aaarrreee She fell in love with him and bore his child. He went to war and did not communicate in anyway. He abandoned her. What was she supposed to do in that era? She had a duty to care for her child. Do you believe every relationship is based on a Romeo and Juliet type love?
And what about him? He gets pissed, shags a prostitute and marries a woman he does not love. What a good ol boy! There is no male version of "Whore"
I conclude by saying Stupid whore was over the top.
motney555 11 months ago 2
@motney555 His actions are simply a reaction to her uncalled for behavior. love and logic are eternal enemies. his heart will always want the stupid whore but logically he made the right decision he married the girl that was loyal to him and was there to support him. he made the right choice. He didn't adandon her if it was up to him he would have much rather stayed with her that is what to whole conflict is about.
aaarrreee 11 months ago
@motney555 what do you mean that era this took place in the 20th century in a modern country France. Who do think had it worse guy who went to war and could possible die any day or the stupid whore who just had a child big deal. Love is unconditional thats like saying an american joins the army with a wife and a child on the way on september 10 2001 and a week later she leaves because of the possibility that he might die and that he isn't there anymore.
aaarrreee 11 months ago
@motney555 yes all the good relationships are like romeo and juliet. thats like saying I shouldn't strive to be like bill gates, president obama, etc. someone has to be a janitor might as will be me. As a women which I think you are you should be conerned with being a loyal and respectable individual not a selfish traitor. Guy isn't perfect but what a lot of women don't understand is that most men are only as good as their lovers in life give them to opportunity to be.
aaarrreee 11 months ago
@aaarrreee "he married the girl that was loyal to him and was there to support him" Thats exactly what she did! yet shes a stupid whore but hes at worst "not perfect" again the good ol boy scenario. "Who JUST had a child" You seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder about women and children whether thats due to personal experience or not its not right. As for me I am a middle aged married family man so there goes another of your theories.
motney555 11 months ago
@motney555 She was supportive to Guy in an emotional way she choose the other guy because he was supportive in a financial way. Its sad you give so much credit to women for just being women and not taking any responsibility for their actions. I have no chip on my shoulder I have never been married and don't have any children most likely because I think before I act and if you want a criticism of guy I would never have a child and then abandon the child and let a whore and some fool raise my kid.
aaarrreee 11 months ago
@aaarrreee Oh Dear, your bigotry has overshadowed any pretence of intelligent conversation. The female race can be grateful you are single and will without doubt remain so. I’m finishing any further communications now as you have dragged it down to your own perverse view on women such that you cannot even write a sentence without the word “whore” in it.
I urge you to seek help
Goodbye
motney555 11 months ago
@motney555 I keep using whore to get a honest response out of you. I really want to see if you truly in your heart of hearts think the the girl is more innocent then the guy. It's clear as water. Just answer the question who is more at fault here for the failed relationship guy or genevieve. I think numerous roads can lead to the same destination so I'm just trying to understand your perspective. and female is not a race it is a gender and they tend to like me but only for short periods of time.
aaarrreee 11 months ago
@motney555 Also it's sad that I thought you were a women when in reality your a man. I have another theory you have probably been divorced like 2 times. You think like a sucker. That women is a fool and a whore and she should be held responsible. Guy is a whore monger and a deadbeat for his actions but you can't deny that his feelings defined by his actions are much more sincere then the girls actions. This is all I have to say. It was nice debating with you good luck with everything.
aaarrreee 11 months ago
@aaarrreee And please don't take any offense I really believe what I'm stating but just because we don't agree doesn't mean I should seek out help. LOL that was pretty funny and they say there is always a bit of truth in humor. Anyways it was nice talking to you I don't want to end my chat with you on a negative note so all the best to you. A true sign of a civilized person is understanding and respecingt what someone else holds true and I respect your opinion. . . . but your wrong :}
aaarrreee 11 months ago
One of the beautifullest and captivatingnest film endings !
Downbythewater73 11 months ago
I think the ending might have been even more moving had his wife not been quite so beautiful. Deneuve, of course, is one of the all-time great beauties of cinema, but Guy's wife is also very pretty. Imagine if she were a little more plain-Jane -- then the fact that he let Genevieve go and embraced his family would have had that much more meaning and impact -- giving up on the exquisite beauty and dream love of youth for the solid, sure love of family, without hesitation. But I quibble.
ercolby 11 months ago
One of my all-time favourite scenes ....
ianriches1 1 year ago
@ianriches1 : Agree !
Downbythewater73 11 months ago
Why she didn't pay oil charge for him ?
dinotagu 1 year ago
This is the only musical (stage or screen) I've ever seen where every word is sung, even things like "I'm pregnant" and "Oh shit".
THAT music makes me cry every time
cbak12sg 1 year ago
Noooooooooo
this is so heartbreaking :'(
patrikstarXP 1 year ago
...and of course the overwhelmingly emotional and dramatic love theme is playing in the background the whole time. Pure genius.
peponwi 1 year ago
Although I initially saw the ending as absolutely tragic and heartbreaking, actually it's not. The last thing we see is not the guy staring after the car with longing and sadness in his eyes, but him playing with his child and wife as if nothing had just happened.
It's not about two lovers who were torn apart. It's about two young people who thought they couldn't live without each other but could, and a happy life too. A strikingly realistic finish to a very romantic and sentimental film.
peponwi 1 year ago 2
@peponwi I agree Guy does not stare the car with longing sadness in in eyes butt we can see Genevieve does not want to leave him . She tries to stay the longer she can in the office, asking him questions , if he wants to see their daughter but he almost order her to leave ...
So , for him it's an "happy ending" but for Genevieve , we can guess she'll be stuck with a husband she doesn't love and she'll regret Guy for the rest of her life maybe .
It's heartbreaking because of Genevieve .
TheXCrunchyX 11 months ago
One more thing; Steve McQueen must have liked the work of Michel Legrand. McQueen had Legrand compose the music for The Thomas Crown Affair, Bullit, LeMans, and The Hunter (McQueen's last movie). Was Legrand involved with other McQueen movies of which I am not aware?
JAG312 1 year ago
Thanks a whole lot. Now I have to buy the DVD to watch the entire movie. Seriously, thank you very much for providing the motivation for me to buy the DVD. This movie is a masterpiece. For the two sociopaths who do not like this'; I feel sorry for you that you lead such an unhappy life.
JAG312 1 year ago
It is bittersweet for Geneviere and for that portion of the audience that wanted she and Guy to be together for life, but I don't think it is bittersweet at all as the story. Notice how she cannot bear to look at him, whereas he looks directly at her with a disinterest that borders on disdain. It is clear that he believes she betrayed him and therefore his only affection is for the memory of their past. Geneviere is aware of this--note how she refers to Francois as "my" daughter not "our."
Zeppolino100 1 year ago
@Zeppolino100
> note how she refers to Francois as "my" daughter not "our."
That's really just a quirk of the subtitles. She calls Françoise "la petite", i.e. "the little one".
yosnappyj 11 months ago
I was absent the day that both the aunt and mom die in my French 2 class, can someone please tell me how they die?
P.S. That dramatic song at the end makes a baby drinking milk seem dramatic. XD
D3ciever 1 year ago
While Deneuve is unbelievably beautiful, Guy's wife is not only every bit as beautiful, but also charming, smart, devoted, happy in her own right, and obviously crazy about him. I would choose her in a heartbeat.
Zeppolino100 1 year ago
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dzajadzaja1 1 year ago 2
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dzajadzaja1 1 year ago
What a beautiful movie, beautifuk music and gorgeous actotors
jubinne 1 year ago 2
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dzajadzaja1 1 year ago 7
she forgot to pay for the petrol
carolmontesa 1 year ago
i hate this ending so much!
phineascaulfield 1 year ago
I play this album every other week all the way through, and revisit the film every year. THANK YOU MERCI
palatinesouth 1 year ago
I agree with you gothigrace. Subtleties like that make great films.
MrTonykulas 1 year ago
You can really tell that he has moved on with life and stopped loving her. But with her...you can tell there's regret and desire to still be with him with the way she turns as she leaves and asks if he's fine. Small things like that make this all the more realistic, even if every word is sung.
gothicgrace 1 year ago 21
@gothicgrace i agree. you can definitely sense the deep regret she has. she has a comfortable life but one that seems pretty devoid of the passion she felt with guy. i think his former feelings for her are battling with his resentment of her for not waiting. i think it's easy for us to say, well, she should've just waited. i really wish she had but i can see how, as time passed, her will got weaker, especially with her mom pressuring her. for genevieve, i think she hates herself for this.
christentze 8 months ago 2
@gothicgrace WRONG - he never stop loving her, he is not IN love with her, he is in love with his wife
nlcatter 8 months ago 13
@nlcatter ...oh... dearest but he is. He loves Madeleine. And isn't it better for both of them? What terrible destiny to pursue what wasn't meant to be?
xnewtime 1 month ago
@gothicgrace i agree with you.. he probably feels a lot of resentment toward her.. despite the jerk a few comments down who said "WRONG" .. what a douchebag
fumala420 8 months ago
@gothicgrace Actually I feel the opposite. I think he is ashamed that he did not marry her & thus does NOT want to see his child. He can see that she married UP & that he stayed the same or down. Just my opinion. But I think that the song says it all. If it takes forever, I will wait for you,. Their hearts are stil entwined, but their lives have moved on. :) xo
penguinmama88 7 months ago 4
@penguinmama88 I wouldn't say he was ashamed - he just can't dare allow himself to go there emotionally. She was forced to marry someone she didn't love and still has his child. He at least has found others to love. If it takes forever - says it all.
jansumi 7 months ago 2
Bitter sweet - beautifully shot - great cast - Michel Legrand's masterpiece - although he's done much more.
Baruchyoseph8 1 year ago 2
i didnt want him to stay with genevieve and hurt his wife and his child in the name of love...i am sorry to say so...
anonimi2009eponimi 1 year ago
Note that the first scene opens with "its finished", and this final scene begins with "I'm done". The last words: "yes, I'm fine".
StuKnole 1 year ago 2
It's kind of fucked up how she left the kid in the car. I mean, she could freeze to death!
junio637 1 year ago 3
@junio637 True - supposedly they could see her ... in those days they weren't wearing seat belts - and the kid was sitting in the front seat ....
Baruchyoseph8 1 year ago
@junio637 i completely agree. its not very kind at all!
sir1920 1 year ago
I will always love this movie. I just cried all over again. So beautiful and sorrowful at the same time.
LeadOptimist 1 year ago 3
really beautiful,
nenepepito 1 year ago
What's the title of melody, which begin at 5:27 ?
NataliaChanelle 1 year ago
@NataliaChanelle it's the main melody of the film. les parapluies de cherbourg. the love theme
xocolatier 1 year ago
@NataliaChanelle It's known in English as I Will Wait For You.
cbak12sg 9 months ago
The whole movie is so tragic!But I think the music makes it even worse.Normally I dont like musicals but this movie...I just love it
jossuyli 1 year ago 2
there will never be another string line like it
companythemusical 1 year ago
Why she didn't pay the gasoline fee ?
dinotagu 1 year ago
it's was beautiful muvie..
Catherine Denevue beautiful too..
1115youha 1 year ago
OH My God ,im i was and still in love with this movie
mamzilla 1 year ago
I can guess the meaning of this scene, but without context it looks like the bittersweet aspect is that the family apparently lives in a gas station.
This interpretation amuses me.
DukeNavarre 1 year ago 2
but thats true love!!!! :(
zombiegirloi 1 year ago
Son I am disappoint. Speaking as an umbrella collector, this film was pants.
TheRealBoroNut 1 year ago
@TheRealBoroNut lol what?
ilovemyrumor321 1 year ago
It doesn't get any better than this. Michel Legrand's music is the best.
peter5992 1 year ago 13
I've got my son Vladimir 1996 w.b. and I've got my son Leonid 2004 w.b.Their mothers are different. Ljonja is more than the World for me. Volodja - is my pain too.
ericyanikov 1 year ago
A romantic movie.... Catherine Deneuve is so beautiful and so talented!!
MissUniverse2010 1 year ago
He could at least took some effort to see the little girl. After all, its his. And you never know, maybe one day she will be at his doorstep trying to find out what her father is like.
fenestrae 1 year ago 2
@fenestrae Maybe seeing her would hurt him too much. I cannot even imagine what kind of pain he feels like.
WildHorse123456 1 year ago
Life must go on, as the characters demonstrated. If you wait in vain, it gets a little pathetic.
georgemandom 1 year ago 2
A romantic's romantic movie...still packs a punch, and timeless. With Le Grand's score, it'll stay a classic...
ScottAdams2911 1 year ago 2
Best ending ever!
askfilm2000 1 year ago
Beautiful cast.
ch1aka2 1 year ago
Thanks for letting me see this picture - finally. Very romantic and bittersweet. How much easier is it for beautiful people to be romantic? [bittersweet ?etc]. The rest of us just get bitter.
martinjp1958 1 year ago
Потрясающая сцена! Одна из лучших сцен мирового кино. Спасибо.
Paranich1 1 year ago
whats with the bowl haircut that madeline has... it's like: " bowls are for meals, not haircuts. "
- Jack in the Box!
dudedudedude94 1 year ago
my heart is breaking into a million pieces...
NattyM29 1 year ago
"je crois que tu peux partir" I think you can leave :(
LaVieVite 1 year ago 2
@LaVieVite Ouch! :(
TOTSenthusiast 1 year ago
Con mi difunta esposa la pude ver tal vez mas de tres veces despues de veinte años vuelvo a verla y con ella uedlve el recuerdo de mi esposa. Dios la tenga en la gloria y la Virgen Maria la pueda acompañar.
Contento de ver la pelicula de nuevo
como veo la traduccion de la cancion.. quisiera cantarla
pipirisnicex 1 year ago
Or gas
PigeonPeople 1 year ago
truly sad ending. he should have nvr left katherine in the 1st place...
that little boy sure is adoorable though.
kittycrunch456 1 year ago
@kittycrunch456 He was drafted, and then she married someone else in his absence. Who really left who?
Zeppolino100 1 year ago
@Zeppolino100 Ah i see. You're right. Thanks
kittycrunch456 1 year ago
In an interview with Michel Legrand, he said that he and Jacques Demy deliberately set out to move their audience to tears.
It never fails to do it to me no matter how many times I see it.
mikey1941 1 year ago 2
Fantastique, marvellous, divino!
solomusika 1 year ago
slownoman, totally agree
walktrevor 1 year ago
the second Guy looks into the car window and sees Genevieve I get tears in my eyes and I can't stop crying until the end of the movie
annabellee8 1 year ago 2
I cann't understand - I'd be happy to know my daughter Francoise.
ericyanikov 1 year ago
I have been looking for a French musical film that I caught on German tv some years ago. I thought it was Umbrellas of Cherbourg but it wasn't. There was a young girl running around in a fur coat looking for someone and she called into a shop full of televisions. I know it is not a lot to go on but someone out there must know it
glitzdealer1 1 year ago
Genevieve leaves the gas station without saying farewell, that's understandable perhaps, but even without paying for the oil?!?
is it such a matter of course that both of them did not care about such a thing at such a moment?
or, is G. entited to expect a gratis filiing from Guy? money would have been very likely rejected even if G. tried to pay, but even not mentioning to that....
or, they both simply forgot ?
or, am I such a mean person thinking in such a category before such a scene?
hsjuanito 1 year ago 4
i love this movie .. i have saw it ones ... and i'm going to watch it again :DD
Krofohrland3r 1 year ago
I love this movie, I saw it in my french class last year. The subtitles crack me up though.
noodliea 1 year ago
I think Guy genuinely loves Madeleine in the end. Perhaps not with the passion he had for Genevieve when he was 20 years old. But who's to say that Guy and Genevieve would have loved each other with that same passion after 10 years? I think Guy would be just as happy with Genevieve as with Madeleine. That is why he does not seem to regret in the end. Sure it is sad, but realistic. Guy and Madeleine are happy. We're not sure about Genevieve, but it seems like she wishes it ended otherwise.
PhicklePickles 1 year ago 5
This movie is a masterpiece. Too bad that it is all but unknown in the US as the Hollywood studios dominate and Americans won't read subtitles. Only La Boheme opera achieves this deep level of profound emotion.
PastaAndPavarotti 1 year ago 3
This is one of the saddest films that I've ever seen, and the music is so beautiful that it adds to the torture. Is it a tragedy? -No, it is a reality. Guy and Geneviève are torn apart symbolically - as France was torn apart by the war in Algérie. They both had to find their own way in the world - but alone.
yarmo28 1 year ago 12