If a runner is coming into 2nd base without sliding and runs directly into the base but bumps into the the fielder playing 2nd and knocks the ball out of his hands whats the call?
@FrenchFrieDay Did you actually watch the video? I gave examples of this. The runner does not have to slide, but he may not INTENTIONALLY interfere with an attempt to catch or throw the ball. Running to the base is not interference unless the runner swats at the fielder or does something that is not part of simply running to the base.
@erikhom - if the runner who caused interference is already out, then the batter is called out. If the runner causes interference before he is out, then he is out for interference and the batter gets first. The only time 2 penalty outs are called is when a batter or runner deliberately, and very obviously interferes with a BATTED ball or the fielder who is fielding the BATTED ball, in order to prevent a double play.
Pro fielders will throw directly toward first base and expect the runner to get out of the way. However, the runner does not have to slide. He must not INTENTIONALLY interfere with the throw. Simply continuing to run toward the base, is not intentional interference. It actually isn't in the fielders favor, to hit the runner, because if the throw hits the runner without intent to interfere, the ball is still live and the defense would have to chase it down, and other runners might advance.
Sure, it does. The runner was already out when the fielder touched second base. He interfered with the subsequent play on the batter. You can't call the runner out for interference when he was already out, so you penalize the interference by calling out the runner being played upon. Which in this case, was the batter. If the runner had interfered before he had been put out, then yes, HE would be out, not the batter.
Yes, because interference is a judgement call as to whether or not the fielder was hindered in his actual attempt to make a play. A hard slide may or may not actually hinder the fielder. The fielder must be hindered during his play, not before or after.
Also, a runner must do something obviously intentional that is something other than just going into the base. In MLB interference is only called when the runner does something obviously unnecessary to his act of trying to get to the base, that actually hinders the fielder WHILE he is making a catch or throw.
@firstpickjim You mention MLB interference - runners going into 2nd base ROUTINELY make an obvious an attempt to "interfere" w/ the pivot man's attempt to make a play on the batter-runner. It happens all the time. This is why we see all these acrobatic throws by pivot men when throwing to 1st to complete a double play. Interference is NEVER called on these plays as long as the runner is within reach of the bag - no matter how OBVIOUS & INTENTIONAL the runner's act may be. It is NOT interference.
@davidemerling Yes, I stated and showed in the video, that a runner is not out because TRIES to interfere. He must ACTUALLY interfere with the catch or throw. He's not penalized because he does something before or after the catch/throw, OR if hinders the fielder while simply attempting to get to the base, and is within reach of the base. Your example is obvious intent to hinder the fielder, but since it is simply an act of going to the base, it isn't penalized. Acts OTHER than that, get an out.
@firstpickjim It doesn't even matter if a runner, sliding into second, both TRIES to interfere & DOES actually hinder w/ the fielder's attempt to throw to 1st to complete a double play. It's STILL not interference as long as the runner is within reach of the bag and does nothing overt like grabbing the fielder. Simply sliding into the fielder, no matter how obvious or intentional is NOT interference under Official Baseball Rules.
If the fielder is unable to complete the throw - that's too bad.
@davidemerling I thought that I stated in other words, both here and in the video; what you state here "It's STILL not interference as long as the runner is within reach of the bag and does nothing overt like grabbing the fielder. Simply sliding into the fielder, no matter how obvious or intentional is NOT interference under Official Baseball Rules."
To be penalized, the runner has to do something OTHER THAN, try to get to the base, AND, whatever he does must actually hinder the fielder's play.
@firstpickjim Well, then for it to be truly instructional - doing something "OTHER THAN" trying to get to the base needs to be defined. Because when I see these big leaguers going after those pivot men, I am certainly getting the impression that they are doing something OTHER THAN trying to get to the base. They are CLEARLY going after the pivot man and seem to have little interest in the bag. BUT - as long as they are within reach of the base - it's legal - that's how the rule is applied.
@davidemerling Something "OTHER THAN" trying to get to the base is stuff like kicking at the fielder, swatting at his arm, glove or the ball, pushing him unnecessarily, etc. You're right, they slide at the fielder, and sometimes make contact, but the umps are taught that as long as collisions occur, only from the action of sliding, and they are within reach of the base when sliding, there is no penalty. The penalty is when they do something unnecessary while sliding, that is intent to interfere
Good show of rule. I am surprised that there is so little views on a video that is so informative. I was put onto here from a comment on my video, as there was a debate as to the correct call on my sons video, as the runner was called out, for the final out of the game. Check it out and comment please, ohh and if you can rate it, it is under Nasty Collision last out. I look forward to more of your videos.
great info jim,,thanks
wogdoggy 1 year ago
If a runner is coming into 2nd base without sliding and runs directly into the base but bumps into the the fielder playing 2nd and knocks the ball out of his hands whats the call?
FrenchFrieDay 1 year ago
@FrenchFrieDay Did you actually watch the video? I gave examples of this. The runner does not have to slide, but he may not INTENTIONALLY interfere with an attempt to catch or throw the ball. Running to the base is not interference unless the runner swats at the fielder or does something that is not part of simply running to the base.
firstpickjim 1 year ago
Is the batter out too on that double play or just the runner? Or is that judgement call by the ump?
erikhom 1 year ago
@erikhom - if the runner who caused interference is already out, then the batter is called out. If the runner causes interference before he is out, then he is out for interference and the batter gets first. The only time 2 penalty outs are called is when a batter or runner deliberately, and very obviously interferes with a BATTED ball or the fielder who is fielding the BATTED ball, in order to prevent a double play.
firstpickjim 1 year ago
Pro fielders will throw directly toward first base and expect the runner to get out of the way. However, the runner does not have to slide. He must not INTENTIONALLY interfere with the throw. Simply continuing to run toward the base, is not intentional interference. It actually isn't in the fielders favor, to hit the runner, because if the throw hits the runner without intent to interfere, the ball is still live and the defense would have to chase it down, and other runners might advance.
firstpickjim 2 years ago
Sure, it does. The runner was already out when the fielder touched second base. He interfered with the subsequent play on the batter. You can't call the runner out for interference when he was already out, so you penalize the interference by calling out the runner being played upon. Which in this case, was the batter. If the runner had interfered before he had been put out, then yes, HE would be out, not the batter.
firstpickjim 2 years ago
the only thing i'd add to this is that in MLB, a hard slide to prevent a double play is RARELY called for interference.
buttkiss101 3 years ago
Yes, because interference is a judgement call as to whether or not the fielder was hindered in his actual attempt to make a play. A hard slide may or may not actually hinder the fielder. The fielder must be hindered during his play, not before or after.
firstpickjim 3 years ago
Also, a runner must do something obviously intentional that is something other than just going into the base. In MLB interference is only called when the runner does something obviously unnecessary to his act of trying to get to the base, that actually hinders the fielder WHILE he is making a catch or throw.
firstpickjim 3 years ago
@firstpickjim You mention MLB interference - runners going into 2nd base ROUTINELY make an obvious an attempt to "interfere" w/ the pivot man's attempt to make a play on the batter-runner. It happens all the time. This is why we see all these acrobatic throws by pivot men when throwing to 1st to complete a double play. Interference is NEVER called on these plays as long as the runner is within reach of the bag - no matter how OBVIOUS & INTENTIONAL the runner's act may be. It is NOT interference.
davidemerling 9 months ago
@davidemerling Yes, I stated and showed in the video, that a runner is not out because TRIES to interfere. He must ACTUALLY interfere with the catch or throw. He's not penalized because he does something before or after the catch/throw, OR if hinders the fielder while simply attempting to get to the base, and is within reach of the base. Your example is obvious intent to hinder the fielder, but since it is simply an act of going to the base, it isn't penalized. Acts OTHER than that, get an out.
firstpickjim 9 months ago
@firstpickjim It doesn't even matter if a runner, sliding into second, both TRIES to interfere & DOES actually hinder w/ the fielder's attempt to throw to 1st to complete a double play. It's STILL not interference as long as the runner is within reach of the bag and does nothing overt like grabbing the fielder. Simply sliding into the fielder, no matter how obvious or intentional is NOT interference under Official Baseball Rules.
If the fielder is unable to complete the throw - that's too bad.
davidemerling 9 months ago
@davidemerling I thought that I stated in other words, both here and in the video; what you state here "It's STILL not interference as long as the runner is within reach of the bag and does nothing overt like grabbing the fielder. Simply sliding into the fielder, no matter how obvious or intentional is NOT interference under Official Baseball Rules."
To be penalized, the runner has to do something OTHER THAN, try to get to the base, AND, whatever he does must actually hinder the fielder's play.
firstpickjim 9 months ago
@firstpickjim Well, then for it to be truly instructional - doing something "OTHER THAN" trying to get to the base needs to be defined. Because when I see these big leaguers going after those pivot men, I am certainly getting the impression that they are doing something OTHER THAN trying to get to the base. They are CLEARLY going after the pivot man and seem to have little interest in the bag. BUT - as long as they are within reach of the base - it's legal - that's how the rule is applied.
davidemerling 9 months ago
@davidemerling Something "OTHER THAN" trying to get to the base is stuff like kicking at the fielder, swatting at his arm, glove or the ball, pushing him unnecessarily, etc. You're right, they slide at the fielder, and sometimes make contact, but the umps are taught that as long as collisions occur, only from the action of sliding, and they are within reach of the base when sliding, there is no penalty. The penalty is when they do something unnecessary while sliding, that is intent to interfere
firstpickjim 9 months ago
Good show of rule. I am surprised that there is so little views on a video that is so informative. I was put onto here from a comment on my video, as there was a debate as to the correct call on my sons video, as the runner was called out, for the final out of the game. Check it out and comment please, ohh and if you can rate it, it is under Nasty Collision last out. I look forward to more of your videos.
swingerroger 3 years ago