Years ago, I found and old booklet from the Stanley Works from the early 1900's, describing the many ways to use a framing square for angle layouts. It's an absolutely mind boggling tool if you know all the "tricks." No wonder the Masonic Lodge has it as a symbol in their logo. The square truly has :mystical powers" in the hands of someone that knows how to use it.
Thanks for the video. While I'm into boats. I use the sliding-t-bevel.. But, it's very interesting to learn more about woodworking tools. Heard that the 2 sections are different widths for a reason.
The framing Square is a remarkable layout tool. You'll notice that one scale is actually in twelfths of an inch. A straight edge and this knowledge can allow for very accurate scaled drawings and jig making for repetitive cuts. (Rafters) The scales on the middle of the square can also be used to calculate rafter length, if you know the rise and the run. The table can also be used for angles and compound cuts on hip framing.
I found the following reference on Wickepedia, but im sure there are so many pages....(Im a union journeyman and 20 yrs carp) so i heard that term for many years thanks
The wider arm, two inches wide, is called the blade; the narrower arm, one and a half inches wide, the tongue. The square has many uses, including laying out common rafters, hip rafters and stairs. .....
@AsktheBuilder I think it's an English thing..tongue and blade...no big deal. We also call it a roofing square but the geometry will always be the same. Glad to know you are still using Imperial instead of this digital rubbish the EU is foisting on us here. Btw, we usually have a ridge board at the plumb cuts on the apex. You have to make an allowance for that in the triangulation. After 30 years in the trade, I still love it. You have the passion as well. All the best
i totally understand framing square and how to use units to do math for common rafters and hips and jacks..but I dont know how to go about figuring out a gambrel(barn) rafter and am looking to build shed with this style of roof..anyone know the math involved in figuring out angles and lenthgs?
High school geometry.... Rise, Run and the resulting diagonal. The bird's mouth cut is simply a 90-degree cut, but oriented to match the pitch. You also have to be aware of the heel height. Confused yet? Get a roof-framing book for now. I intend to tape a video to answer your question this spring.
Oh ok. I think I can figure it out. And if you have a 2x6 ridge you just deduct and inch from each rafter or exactly half of 1 9/16th" since they are not exactly 2". What about building stringers for stairs. Thats seems more tricky.
Hi Tim Carter, I would like to thank you for this video on Framing, and all your other videos they are so easy to understand the way that you tell it. I never understood framing until I saw your video. So keep up the good work. I try to watch all your videos. Thanks so MUCH.....
After spending some time doing a little research on framing square, I think I grasp the basic concept. It's basically you get the rise and run and reduce it to a low fraction. Let's say, 5 feet rise over 30 feet run. 5/30 this is reduced to 1/6. So your rise is one and run is 6. It's so easy, I think. I had to do some search to understand this. I think you should make another video explanation the reduce fraction because the framing square is reduced fraction.
Askthebuilder! Please sent me a link through comment or message on a more thorough explanation on how to use the framing square. I'm going insane trying to understand this video.
I have some extra info at my website. It would take several tw0-inch-thick books to impart all I know about them. That is not high on the priority list right now. Sorry!
Years ago, I found and old booklet from the Stanley Works from the early 1900's, describing the many ways to use a framing square for angle layouts. It's an absolutely mind boggling tool if you know all the "tricks." No wonder the Masonic Lodge has it as a symbol in their logo. The square truly has :mystical powers" in the hands of someone that knows how to use it.
Elodea 11 months ago
So what would the slash cut be for a 10 pitch resting onto a 6 pitch ?
7777dmith7777 1 year ago
Thanks for the video. While I'm into boats. I use the sliding-t-bevel.. But, it's very interesting to learn more about woodworking tools. Heard that the 2 sections are different widths for a reason.
jrwel14 1 year ago
The framing Square is a remarkable layout tool. You'll notice that one scale is actually in twelfths of an inch. A straight edge and this knowledge can allow for very accurate scaled drawings and jig making for repetitive cuts. (Rafters) The scales on the middle of the square can also be used to calculate rafter length, if you know the rise and the run. The table can also be used for angles and compound cuts on hip framing.
SwimCoach8 1 year ago
The best tool for carpenters
gregvancom 1 year ago
Wow, you made that so easy. Thank you so much!
songczar 1 year ago
Thanks for the great video, I love ask the builder
stairbuilding 1 year ago
Thank you very much! you described this tool as straight forward as possible and made it seem very easy for the first time. Thank you so much
copingsaw777 2 years ago
I found the following reference on Wickepedia, but im sure there are so many pages....(Im a union journeyman and 20 yrs carp) so i heard that term for many years thanks
The wider arm, two inches wide, is called the blade; the narrower arm, one and a half inches wide, the tongue. The square has many uses, including laying out common rafters, hip rafters and stairs. .....
joesurfer 2 years ago
Many thanks. I intend to do an entire series on how to use this magical tool. I've laid out and cut countless rafters and stair stringers with it.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
the proper term is the blade not body
tounge and blade,,,,
joesurfer 2 years ago
Interesting. Can you show me in the literature where that's so? I'd be fascinated to link to that from my web site.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
@AsktheBuilder I think it's an English thing..tongue and blade...no big deal. We also call it a roofing square but the geometry will always be the same. Glad to know you are still using Imperial instead of this digital rubbish the EU is foisting on us here. Btw, we usually have a ridge board at the plumb cuts on the apex. You have to make an allowance for that in the triangulation. After 30 years in the trade, I still love it. You have the passion as well. All the best
Rikk303 2 years ago
says you
tokeabow 2 years ago
@joesurfer I've always heard "body".
mtownlobo 1 year ago
i totally understand framing square and how to use units to do math for common rafters and hips and jacks..but I dont know how to go about figuring out a gambrel(barn) rafter and am looking to build shed with this style of roof..anyone know the math involved in figuring out angles and lenthgs?
basher4737 3 years ago
i've worked construction for two years and we always call it a shingle sqaure and we usually do framing.
blackplastic420 3 years ago
You may want to reconsider. Go look what Stanley Tools calls it. They make more than any other company in the world.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
How do you figure out the length of the rafter and where to cut the seat cut or a bird's mouth cut?
timrocket2008 3 years ago
High school geometry.... Rise, Run and the resulting diagonal. The bird's mouth cut is simply a 90-degree cut, but oriented to match the pitch. You also have to be aware of the heel height. Confused yet? Get a roof-framing book for now. I intend to tape a video to answer your question this spring.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
Oh ok. I think I can figure it out. And if you have a 2x6 ridge you just deduct and inch from each rafter or exactly half of 1 9/16th" since they are not exactly 2". What about building stringers for stairs. Thats seems more tricky.
timrocket2008 3 years ago
You need my Building Stairs Ebook. Go to the Store at my website.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
Hi Tim Carter, I would like to thank you for this video on Framing, and all your other videos they are so easy to understand the way that you tell it. I never understood framing until I saw your video. So keep up the good work. I try to watch all your videos. Thanks so MUCH.....
waynkee 4 years ago
You are welcome. There are many more in the pipeline. Be sure you are subscribed to my channel so you get notifications when they are uploaded.
AsktheBuilder 4 years ago
After spending some time doing a little research on framing square, I think I grasp the basic concept. It's basically you get the rise and run and reduce it to a low fraction. Let's say, 5 feet rise over 30 feet run. 5/30 this is reduced to 1/6. So your rise is one and run is 6. It's so easy, I think. I had to do some search to understand this. I think you should make another video explanation the reduce fraction because the framing square is reduced fraction.
gatorn 4 years ago
Good comment. I plan on doing a series of videos on how to use a framing square. Subscribe and you will be notified when they are uploaded.
AsktheBuilder 4 years ago
Askthebuilder! Please sent me a link through comment or message on a more thorough explanation on how to use the framing square. I'm going insane trying to understand this video.
gatorn 4 years ago
I have some extra info at my website. It would take several tw0-inch-thick books to impart all I know about them. That is not high on the priority list right now. Sorry!
AsktheBuilder 4 years ago