I love the "Christian" argument made by southerners and slavery supporters, of course people with the least educaton everywhere. Looking at the bible yes God defends slavery but that slavery is NOT a race based chattel type slavery but a debtors prison if ou will. Look at the enslavement of the Jews by the Egyptians. That was a race based precursor to new world racial slavery. God was clearly against that kind of slavery as detailed in the book of Exodus!
@MasterWooten Biblical slavery was chattel slavery based on race.
Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."
It never ceases to amaze me how so called historians get caught up in dribble that in retrospect is useless when you take history for its most basic defintion, to learn from our mistakes. The bloated Charles E Winchesters out their will recite facts because they know most will bow before their dribble, all in a effort to hide what is most prevalant. Humans were owned. Idicocy & arrogancy ruled for centuries. Lincoln would not have sent yhem back to Africa since they were now obviously Americans
@guitargold77 That's a good point. The Civil War was a terrible endgame that resulted from the policies and actions of a lot of short-sighted characters on both sides. There was quite a bit of ignorance and arrogance in this case--current events show that we probably haven't learned much!
@guitargold77 We're not dealing in "dribble" as you put it--not usually, anyway! We're providing relevant facts to help clarify the situation; to show the environment and circumstances in which these people were operating. Historians don't all see the world in the same way, of course, which is why we engage in debates with one another, just like the people of the Civil War era.
The Narrator left out the Morrill tarrif, buy the slaves and set them free, Lincoln being funded by Corporations to win his election and defending his railroad company called the UNION PACIFIC. he never defended the Real Union just his rail road company: UNION PACIFIC. And most important she didn't mention how many violations Lincoln made to the Constitutions.
Did they also mention that if Lincoln was alive he would send all slave back to Africa? like i said: Bull
@moctezuma112 It the south was going to secede over tariffs then why didn't they do it back in 1828 when one of the most severe tariffs, the "tariff of abominations" was levied? Why did that crisis blow over but we kept coming back to the issue of slavery in the territories? Why did they not secede until -after- Lincoln, with a platform against slavery in the territories, was elected? And btw, the Morrill Tariff was passed in March, 1861, Most of the states had seceded by February.
This video provides and in depth look at the causes of the civil war, not the war itself or Lincoln.
Regarding tariffs, very few southern politicians talked about it during the foundation of the CSA. They were more concerned with slavery and its preservation.
@moctezuma112 The government didn't have the Constitutional authority to buy the slaves and free them--and Southerners were hotly opposed to this concept anyway.
@moctezuma112 Lincoln made few outright violations of the Constitution, which grants the power to suspend habeas corpus, etc. in situations of rebellion when the public safety requires it. This was the case when a secessionist mob in Baltimore attacked US troops on their way to Washington. Congress upheld the Constitutionality of nearly everything Lincoln did. He seldom did anything without letting Congress review it, even if it was after the fact, a necessity in a special situation like this.
@david1513 The word "Negro" comes from the Latin "Niger" (pronounced Nee gehr), which means "black" and you can see this in Spanish, French, and a bunch of other languages as well. Most blacks in America originated from Western Africa where they were loaded onto ships and brought here. Nicaragua is in the new world, and was inhabited by native people, relatives of the Maya, who were -not- black. Get your facts straight before you open your mouth next time.
@david1513 Yes the Spanish and French did sell slaves to Americans, though it was illegal after 1805, but the slaves originally kidnapped from Africa and put on ships. The Spanish and French worked them on plantations in the Caribbean and would smuggle them into the southern US after 1805, when the US banned the international slave trade. After the 1700s most of the slaver activity off of Africa was done by the Portuguese who would sell them in the Caribbean or smuggle them here illegally.
@david1513 Slavery was part of a business of producing cotton or other cash crops. You don't run businesses as charities. The slaves were not bought simply to be nice to them, and the majority of the slaves in the US after the Atlantic slave trade in1805 were "home-grown" descendants of Africans who had been kidnapped generations ago, not imported by the Spanish or whoever. You folks are so keen on proving you're not "the bad guys" you make up all kinds of stories or try to cover up plain facts.
@david1513 Ok first off, while all black slaves originally came from Africa as I said, those in the south after the 1805 ban on the Atlantic slave trade were mostly "homegrown" from those already here. Some people even had businesses 'breeding' them. Those smuggled in illegally probably came from the Caribbean where the Atlantic slave trade was still legal. That's probably why it was passed down to you that Spanish ships sold slaves. And once again, buying slaves was business, not charity.
@david1513 Ok first, no I'm not black. And yes, slaves were expensive, but the people who owned large amounts of slaves typically were planters who grew large amounts of cash crops whose businesses easily paid for them over the years. Owning slaves was not a charity, it was business. And among small slaveowners who only used them as servants or house help, a slave was more of an expensive luxury item or status symbol. Sort of like a new car.
Understandably pissed. If I were black and learned about slavery I would probably have a chip on my shoulder and be pissed at "whitey" too. The South claimed slavery was God's choosing which is the sickest thing of all. There is no justificatioon for the way those poor people were treated back then.
I love the "Christian" argument made by southerners and slavery supporters, of course people with the least educaton everywhere. Looking at the bible yes God defends slavery but that slavery is NOT a race based chattel type slavery but a debtors prison if ou will. Look at the enslavement of the Jews by the Egyptians. That was a race based precursor to new world racial slavery. God was clearly against that kind of slavery as detailed in the book of Exodus!
MasterWooten 2 weeks ago
@MasterWooten Biblical slavery was chattel slavery based on race.
Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."
KayBeeEee1983 1 day ago
It never ceases to amaze me how so called historians get caught up in dribble that in retrospect is useless when you take history for its most basic defintion, to learn from our mistakes. The bloated Charles E Winchesters out their will recite facts because they know most will bow before their dribble, all in a effort to hide what is most prevalant. Humans were owned. Idicocy & arrogancy ruled for centuries. Lincoln would not have sent yhem back to Africa since they were now obviously Americans
guitargold77 3 weeks ago
@guitargold77 That's a good point. The Civil War was a terrible endgame that resulted from the policies and actions of a lot of short-sighted characters on both sides. There was quite a bit of ignorance and arrogance in this case--current events show that we probably haven't learned much!
galoon 3 weeks ago
@guitargold77 We're not dealing in "dribble" as you put it--not usually, anyway! We're providing relevant facts to help clarify the situation; to show the environment and circumstances in which these people were operating. Historians don't all see the world in the same way, of course, which is why we engage in debates with one another, just like the people of the Civil War era.
galoon 3 weeks ago
Wow what a Bull documentary
The Narrator left out the Morrill tarrif, buy the slaves and set them free, Lincoln being funded by Corporations to win his election and defending his railroad company called the UNION PACIFIC. he never defended the Real Union just his rail road company: UNION PACIFIC. And most important she didn't mention how many violations Lincoln made to the Constitutions.
Did they also mention that if Lincoln was alive he would send all slave back to Africa? like i said: Bull
moctezuma112 4 months ago
@moctezuma112 It the south was going to secede over tariffs then why didn't they do it back in 1828 when one of the most severe tariffs, the "tariff of abominations" was levied? Why did that crisis blow over but we kept coming back to the issue of slavery in the territories? Why did they not secede until -after- Lincoln, with a platform against slavery in the territories, was elected? And btw, the Morrill Tariff was passed in March, 1861, Most of the states had seceded by February.
wolfpax22 4 months ago
This video provides and in depth look at the causes of the civil war, not the war itself or Lincoln.
Regarding tariffs, very few southern politicians talked about it during the foundation of the CSA. They were more concerned with slavery and its preservation.
LongHairedLoser 2 months ago
@moctezuma112 The government didn't have the Constitutional authority to buy the slaves and free them--and Southerners were hotly opposed to this concept anyway.
galoon 3 weeks ago
@moctezuma112 Lincoln made few outright violations of the Constitution, which grants the power to suspend habeas corpus, etc. in situations of rebellion when the public safety requires it. This was the case when a secessionist mob in Baltimore attacked US troops on their way to Washington. Congress upheld the Constitutionality of nearly everything Lincoln did. He seldom did anything without letting Congress review it, even if it was after the fact, a necessity in a special situation like this.
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david1513 4 months ago
@david1513 The word "Negro" comes from the Latin "Niger" (pronounced Nee gehr), which means "black" and you can see this in Spanish, French, and a bunch of other languages as well. Most blacks in America originated from Western Africa where they were loaded onto ships and brought here. Nicaragua is in the new world, and was inhabited by native people, relatives of the Maya, who were -not- black. Get your facts straight before you open your mouth next time.
wolfpax22 4 months ago
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@david1513 Yes the Spanish and French did sell slaves to Americans, though it was illegal after 1805, but the slaves originally kidnapped from Africa and put on ships. The Spanish and French worked them on plantations in the Caribbean and would smuggle them into the southern US after 1805, when the US banned the international slave trade. After the 1700s most of the slaver activity off of Africa was done by the Portuguese who would sell them in the Caribbean or smuggle them here illegally.
wolfpax22 4 months ago
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david1513 4 months ago
@david1513 Slavery was part of a business of producing cotton or other cash crops. You don't run businesses as charities. The slaves were not bought simply to be nice to them, and the majority of the slaves in the US after the Atlantic slave trade in1805 were "home-grown" descendants of Africans who had been kidnapped generations ago, not imported by the Spanish or whoever. You folks are so keen on proving you're not "the bad guys" you make up all kinds of stories or try to cover up plain facts.
wolfpax22 4 months ago
@david1513 Ok first off, while all black slaves originally came from Africa as I said, those in the south after the 1805 ban on the Atlantic slave trade were mostly "homegrown" from those already here. Some people even had businesses 'breeding' them. Those smuggled in illegally probably came from the Caribbean where the Atlantic slave trade was still legal. That's probably why it was passed down to you that Spanish ships sold slaves. And once again, buying slaves was business, not charity.
wolfpax22 4 months ago
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david1513 4 months ago
@david1513 Ok first, no I'm not black. And yes, slaves were expensive, but the people who owned large amounts of slaves typically were planters who grew large amounts of cash crops whose businesses easily paid for them over the years. Owning slaves was not a charity, it was business. And among small slaveowners who only used them as servants or house help, a slave was more of an expensive luxury item or status symbol. Sort of like a new car.
wolfpax22 4 months ago
yeah there is very little out there on the civil war well in the uk anyhow
seanieboy78 6 months ago
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8cQgep 6 months ago
good video - thanks
8cQgep 6 months ago
Understandably pissed. If I were black and learned about slavery I would probably have a chip on my shoulder and be pissed at "whitey" too. The South claimed slavery was God's choosing which is the sickest thing of all. There is no justificatioon for the way those poor people were treated back then.
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015osni 7 months ago
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Baxterkid 8 months ago
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