Fuck Loiusiana, It's a terrible state full of neo nazis and hill billy scum sucking confederates! destroy the south and fuck the corporate big wig hate lizards!
It's a crime in Loiseyanha to sell DInosaur Holocaust to the elderly on a sunday!
wow, this is really disturbing. America has free enterprise and anyone should be able to sell whatever they want as long as it has no hazard to human health, and dead people are excluded because you can't hurt them really. They are dead.
I think it is selfish stupid and sheer greedy by the state and even funeral directors whom rip off grieving relatives as it is. I would rather buy a casket off these monks than by a overcharged mass produced coffin or casket any day u also can see it quality product and it is made with love and respect that diseased love ones deserve but sadly I live in the uk so it is a shame really but they look beautifully made though
I understand what these monks are going through. I am one of the seminarians at this abbey with these Benedictine Monks. I am discerning joining this Order. I really admire Abbot Justin Brown for his great wisdom and humility. I ask please continue to keep me and my brother seminarians here at the Abbey and continue to pray for the Brothers of St Josephs Abbey. Many Thanks and God Bless!
They can just follow the law.... Why should they be above the law? Our government protects religion in our country by keeping church and state separate. Your asking them to make an exception and it's ludicrous. If you're selling coffins, get a license like the funeral directors have to.
What's ludicrous is a law that requires you to be a funeral director to sell a wooden box. This law applies not only to monks, but to anyone else who isn't a funeral director.
@dumuh whats interesting to me is that in the state of Louisiana, you can be buried in a damn bedsheet. Why on earth cant honest men make simple boxes to bury the dead? I would specifically buy one of these caskets just because i would love to support the little man with no lobby in DC. Who knew there was a "funeral lobby" lol
@ShawnWreck this has NOTHING to do with religion. NOTHING at all. It is ONLY so funeral homes can charge outrageous amounts of money for caskets. There is NO other purpose at all. If im selling $2500 caskets and these monks start cutting my business, im gonna round up my funeral home buddies, pay off some cronies, and get a law like THIS passed. Get it?? This is true rather its caskets or kids selling lemonade on the street. Keep the government OUT of the free market.
I generally do not support organized religion. But in this case, I make an exception. So long as the caskets meet all relevant construction codes I don't see why there should be a problem. What we have here is a local monopoly enforced by the State of Louisiana.
I think these dudes should be allowed to make caskets if they'd like. Thing is, if someone dies in one of those things, it'll be their ass. I'm glad the Louisiana government has their population's best interest in mind.
A way around the BS is to take one monk and send him to the apprenticeship them open up a retail front for what would be the wholesale construction of coffins. Or they could sell them at retail under a different moniker then coffin like "vampire bed". Even though needing to do something like that is disgustingly insulting to fair minded people.
@macpduff I have to disagree - I don't think it's an example of persecution of religion, but rather of corruption in LA politics (I know, what a shocker.) It's just plain asinine. There is no need to regular casket sales. None. It's just the cartel controlling business and lining their pockets and the pockets of the politicians in LA with more money. Disgusting.
We all know why the casket industry is upset. This cuts into their profits. But the government has no stake in this. Or do they. They get money from lobbiest groups obviously but, there is something else here that I have not seen in the comments or heard on the video. Taxes.. Do the monks have to pay tax on the sale of their caskets or not? Being a religious group makes them exempt from taxes does'nt it?
One issue that affects funeral consumers in all states is that funeral home insiders form the majority on state funeral regulatory boards--in Louisiana's case, eight of nine members! Although these boards do punish the worst offenders of consumer protection regulations, too often they serve to protect their own turf from encroachment rather than focus on the public good. That's essentially what is happening in this monks case.
State legislators have little time to deal with issues that aren't specific to their region. Our FCA affiliate drew up a position paper about the issues that most affect funeral consumers in our state and then went in person to meet our legislators and hand them out. Sometimes we had only five minutes to speak with them, but now they know whom to contact for a funeral consumer's perspective should an issue related to the funeral industry arise. This shows the importance of collective action.
If you're not from Louisiana, get in touch with your local Funeral Consumers Alliance chapter, or form one if there isn't one. FCA affiliates are groups of funeral consumers that educate and advocate for consumer rights. It's a great way to learn about the issues in your state and to take actions that matter.
How to "do something" if you're from Louisiana: Write a letter to the editor of your paper. Write your state legislators. Form a chapter of Funeral Consumers Alliance to address this issue and mobilize consumers. Get your faith organizations to support the monks. Longer term, work toward legislation that brings a majority of public members to the state board.
@hstevensncyt You are almost there. A letter is not going to do anything. It's too easy to dump the mail bag in the shredder. Call, call, call. If they have to answer 100,000 calls a day from us they will get the idea that we are finally watching what they do and will not put up with their B.S..
I've called everyone I can from my state and they all wanted to know the same thing. (Why are you worried about what's going on in Louisiana? You don't live there.) You could tell by the sounds of their voices that they were confused as to why I would be calling about something that does'nt affect me. My answer to them was, "If it can happen there it can happen here. So don't think I won't fight you". Pick up your phones and start dialing. Don't just say you support them, actually do it.
Stop bitching and do something. If you want to stop this and every other stupid thing our gov does it is easy. Everybody, and I do mean everybody pick up your phone and call your rep, congressman (local and federal), mayor whoever. Tell them to get stuffed and to leave these men alone. That is why this is going on today. The powers that be know that nobody is going to worry about this tommorow because they are to worried about themselves. STOP BITCHING AND DO SOMETHING! Show them who's boss.
The problem is that Louisiana law provides for a funeral-industry dominated board. Of the nine members of the Louisiana Board of Embalmers and Funeral Directors, four must be embalmers, four must be licensed funeral directors and only one must be a public member (not a funeral industry insider) over 60 years old. In all the states, state funeral boards are essentially set up to make the fox guard the henhouse, and the consumer is the one who pays the price.
US is a fucking 3rd world country soon to become the first country to join the 4th world. This is hilarious! You need a license to manufacture a fucking coffin? Stupid goverment!
"It's just a box." Well obviously it isn't and that's a dumb argument. It's how we care for our dead and the monks know this and is why they make them in the first place. It's probably why laws were past to regulate the industry, so the dead would be treated with respect. Unfortunately it seems the law also protects the established industry and keeps newcomers out. This isn't about big government against monks, it's about special interest verse monks.
@mbenzesq Bureaucrats are "out of control" only because the American people have let them have their way for so long. Nobody gets involved in how this country is ran anymore. Don't get the wrong idea. I am in no way defending what gov does, only trying to say they are only going to do what they can as long as we let them. And you and I both know, children will try and get away with everything possible if we don't correct them.
@djcordes The monks shouldn't have to "get around the law." They should be able to engage in this honest work without being threatened by fines or prison.
Economic liberty, like all liberties, are rights given to us by God. The monks choose to exercise that right in a harmless manner so that they may feed and clothes themselves and do good works in the community. The state has no more business stopping that than it would in barring the monks from praying.
@guntrain68 Ok, now that you've said it follow it up. And don't stop. Get as many as you can and as many as they can to call and say "Back off and leave them alone". Don't stop until they do. One call a day. Takes a minute and can be done anytime. And can be about anything. Let them see that we are watching and let them know that we can fire them at any time we want. (look that one up. Your gonna love what you find.) Once you talk the talk start walking the walk.
It occurs to me that with the exact same equipment, and skills, the monks could shift over, and sell cabinetry instead of coffins, and avoid the entire legal process.
@madmanuel001 Why should they? That is what the monks want to do. Why should they be forced to stop what they do because it might cut into the proffits of the big corporations?
@1shabuti1 Also, forgot to mention same thing about the Amish. They are too making furniture and many other things by hand, with tools but with simple tools and sell them. No government tells them what to do. I bought fresh raw milk from them. That state just made it worse for itself.
@1shabuti1 Because this fucking country is being run by fucking sellouts, bastards, who in turn made this country very fucked. Don't worry though, the monks will win this easily. State can go fuck themselves.
It's like requiring someone to have a driver's license to work in an auto assembly plant. What does knowing how to use the product have to do with manufacturing it?
Louisiana was the battleground for the Slaughterhouse Cases, where the Supreme Court essentially gutted the 14th Amendment. The time has come for it to be overturned. Go monks and go IJ!
this is how u know our goverment has to much control.... this is bullshit...... i live in neworleans but this is makein me sick..... i mean seriously man ...... wtf is wrong with people now days....... all people do is find things to complain about and try to change..... leave well anoph alone......
This boils down to government persecution of religion. Monks and nuns have a 2,000 yr history of making and selling things to support themselves. Wines, caskets, jellys, etc.
If Louisiana wins, then other monasteries and nunneries will be forced to stop producing wine and food products. Effectively they will be shut down by the State and special interests. Could be the funeral lobby wants the casket sales and the State wants the sales tax
@macpduff I think this points more to special interests getting their way through law instead of honest competition by making the entry to business too high, lengthy or difficult. Did you see the Utah lawsuit about the woman they tried to force to go through years of beauty school where they don't teach braiding in order for her to get a license to braid? Special interests make me sick.
First flowers and now caskets and coffins?? God, this licensing shit is madness! There's nothing they won't license. Honestly, why does it matter who's selling fucking coffins? Since when did selling coffins become some huge safety risk or potential hazard?!
Fuck Loiusiana, It's a terrible state full of neo nazis and hill billy scum sucking confederates! destroy the south and fuck the corporate big wig hate lizards!
It's a crime in Loiseyanha to sell DInosaur Holocaust to the elderly on a sunday!
Fuck your ears and your mind biatch!
mackawack12346 2 months ago
great work on the *WIN*, and thanks for keeping up the fight in our courts!
jembeai 7 months ago
EPIC! GO ECONOMIC FREEDOM! DOWN WITH THE MONOPOLIES! *BRANDISHES SWORD*
flyingbeagles 7 months ago
wow, this is really disturbing. America has free enterprise and anyone should be able to sell whatever they want as long as it has no hazard to human health, and dead people are excluded because you can't hurt them really. They are dead.
BulosIsInnocent 8 months ago 2
We must consider the well being of the dead. Without these regulations the deceased could become even more dead
cancuks1 1 year ago
I think it is selfish stupid and sheer greedy by the state and even funeral directors whom rip off grieving relatives as it is. I would rather buy a casket off these monks than by a overcharged mass produced coffin or casket any day u also can see it quality product and it is made with love and respect that diseased love ones deserve but sadly I live in the uk so it is a shame really but they look beautifully made though
DanielR305 1 year ago
Me to LA licensed funeral directors: Drop dead...and be buried in a casket made by the monks! Shame on you!
JuliaB1955 1 year ago
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SuperAngel361 1 year ago
I understand what these monks are going through. I am one of the seminarians at this abbey with these Benedictine Monks. I am discerning joining this Order. I really admire Abbot Justin Brown for his great wisdom and humility. I ask please continue to keep me and my brother seminarians here at the Abbey and continue to pray for the Brothers of St Josephs Abbey. Many Thanks and God Bless!
SuperAngel361 1 year ago
can't they contract with a funeral home
MrNationalistpride 1 year ago
I am with the monks ,hope you win
TheWelshie1 1 year ago
They can just follow the law.... Why should they be above the law? Our government protects religion in our country by keeping church and state separate. Your asking them to make an exception and it's ludicrous. If you're selling coffins, get a license like the funeral directors have to.
ShawnWreck 1 year ago
@ShawnWreck
What's ludicrous is a law that requires you to be a funeral director to sell a wooden box. This law applies not only to monks, but to anyone else who isn't a funeral director.
dumuh 1 year ago
@dumuh whats interesting to me is that in the state of Louisiana, you can be buried in a damn bedsheet. Why on earth cant honest men make simple boxes to bury the dead? I would specifically buy one of these caskets just because i would love to support the little man with no lobby in DC. Who knew there was a "funeral lobby" lol
ctnjason 1 year ago
@ShawnWreck this has NOTHING to do with religion. NOTHING at all. It is ONLY so funeral homes can charge outrageous amounts of money for caskets. There is NO other purpose at all. If im selling $2500 caskets and these monks start cutting my business, im gonna round up my funeral home buddies, pay off some cronies, and get a law like THIS passed. Get it?? This is true rather its caskets or kids selling lemonade on the street. Keep the government OUT of the free market.
ctnjason 1 year ago 2
I generally do not support organized religion. But in this case, I make an exception. So long as the caskets meet all relevant construction codes I don't see why there should be a problem. What we have here is a local monopoly enforced by the State of Louisiana.
qawamity 1 year ago
Why can't one purchase what ever one wants from whomever one wants?
EmpoweredByKnowledge 1 year ago
@EmpoweredByKnowledge Because the Government makes less money that way.
Loseirdo 1 year ago
@Loseirdo I understand that... I was just asking the wind!
EmpoweredByKnowledge 1 year ago
A casket is not "just a box".
catholicpriest1 1 year ago
Couldn't the monks apply to become licensed funeral directors?
xTheOxx 1 year ago
@xTheOxx They would have to go to funeral director school which takes a couple years.
catholicpriest1 1 year ago
I think these dudes should be allowed to make caskets if they'd like. Thing is, if someone dies in one of those things, it'll be their ass. I'm glad the Louisiana government has their population's best interest in mind.
MCIzawa 1 year ago
All the best to the Monks. I hope they win the case. David and Goliath all over again. Lets hope and pray for the same outcome!
kpman 1 year ago
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I'm not surprised at this. Jindal is a Catholic supremacist.
LLORT3 1 year ago
A way around the BS is to take one monk and send him to the apprenticeship them open up a retail front for what would be the wholesale construction of coffins. Or they could sell them at retail under a different moniker then coffin like "vampire bed". Even though needing to do something like that is disgustingly insulting to fair minded people.
thephranc 1 year ago
@macpduff I have to disagree - I don't think it's an example of persecution of religion, but rather of corruption in LA politics (I know, what a shocker.) It's just plain asinine. There is no need to regular casket sales. None. It's just the cartel controlling business and lining their pockets and the pockets of the politicians in LA with more money. Disgusting.
twillitts 1 year ago
We all know why the casket industry is upset. This cuts into their profits. But the government has no stake in this. Or do they. They get money from lobbiest groups obviously but, there is something else here that I have not seen in the comments or heard on the video. Taxes.. Do the monks have to pay tax on the sale of their caskets or not? Being a religious group makes them exempt from taxes does'nt it?
hrsqsiest 1 year ago
these catholic monks aren't even harming anybody...unlike other christians...wasup?!!?
Fez1408 1 year ago
One issue that affects funeral consumers in all states is that funeral home insiders form the majority on state funeral regulatory boards--in Louisiana's case, eight of nine members! Although these boards do punish the worst offenders of consumer protection regulations, too often they serve to protect their own turf from encroachment rather than focus on the public good. That's essentially what is happening in this monks case.
hstevensncyt 1 year ago
State legislators have little time to deal with issues that aren't specific to their region. Our FCA affiliate drew up a position paper about the issues that most affect funeral consumers in our state and then went in person to meet our legislators and hand them out. Sometimes we had only five minutes to speak with them, but now they know whom to contact for a funeral consumer's perspective should an issue related to the funeral industry arise. This shows the importance of collective action.
hstevensncyt 1 year ago
If you're not from Louisiana, get in touch with your local Funeral Consumers Alliance chapter, or form one if there isn't one. FCA affiliates are groups of funeral consumers that educate and advocate for consumer rights. It's a great way to learn about the issues in your state and to take actions that matter.
hstevensncyt 1 year ago
How to "do something" if you're from Louisiana: Write a letter to the editor of your paper. Write your state legislators. Form a chapter of Funeral Consumers Alliance to address this issue and mobilize consumers. Get your faith organizations to support the monks. Longer term, work toward legislation that brings a majority of public members to the state board.
hstevensncyt 1 year ago
@hstevensncyt You are almost there. A letter is not going to do anything. It's too easy to dump the mail bag in the shredder. Call, call, call. If they have to answer 100,000 calls a day from us they will get the idea that we are finally watching what they do and will not put up with their B.S..
hrsqsiest 1 year ago
I've called everyone I can from my state and they all wanted to know the same thing. (Why are you worried about what's going on in Louisiana? You don't live there.) You could tell by the sounds of their voices that they were confused as to why I would be calling about something that does'nt affect me. My answer to them was, "If it can happen there it can happen here. So don't think I won't fight you". Pick up your phones and start dialing. Don't just say you support them, actually do it.
hrsqsiest 1 year ago
Stop bitching and do something. If you want to stop this and every other stupid thing our gov does it is easy. Everybody, and I do mean everybody pick up your phone and call your rep, congressman (local and federal), mayor whoever. Tell them to get stuffed and to leave these men alone. That is why this is going on today. The powers that be know that nobody is going to worry about this tommorow because they are to worried about themselves. STOP BITCHING AND DO SOMETHING! Show them who's boss.
hrsqsiest 1 year ago
The problem is that Louisiana law provides for a funeral-industry dominated board. Of the nine members of the Louisiana Board of Embalmers and Funeral Directors, four must be embalmers, four must be licensed funeral directors and only one must be a public member (not a funeral industry insider) over 60 years old. In all the states, state funeral boards are essentially set up to make the fox guard the henhouse, and the consumer is the one who pays the price.
hstevensncyt 1 year ago
land of the free and the home of the rich
zubestr 1 year ago
Don't call them caskets call them wooden boxes instead.
It is then up to the customer to define the usage.
Take a long line with the gov they are just dumb beurocrats and won't risk looking like dictators over the church and the good work you guys do.
Time to break some rules dudes.
YouFatTuber 1 year ago
From the look of the comments here, I believe that some of you are commenting without a valid license.
ajlenze 1 year ago
US is a fucking 3rd world country soon to become the first country to join the 4th world. This is hilarious! You need a license to manufacture a fucking coffin? Stupid goverment!
MilkDrinkerIntl 1 year ago
"It's just a box." Well obviously it isn't and that's a dumb argument. It's how we care for our dead and the monks know this and is why they make them in the first place. It's probably why laws were past to regulate the industry, so the dead would be treated with respect. Unfortunately it seems the law also protects the established industry and keeps newcomers out. This isn't about big government against monks, it's about special interest verse monks.
TrulyEvilBob 1 year ago
bureaucrats are so out of control in this country that not even monks are safe
mbenzesq 1 year ago
@mbenzesq Bureaucrats are "out of control" only because the American people have let them have their way for so long. Nobody gets involved in how this country is ran anymore. Don't get the wrong idea. I am in no way defending what gov does, only trying to say they are only going to do what they can as long as we let them. And you and I both know, children will try and get away with everything possible if we don't correct them.
hrsqsiest 1 year ago
Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
logboy73 1 year ago
Would it be possible to get around the law by not selling them by just give them away and accept a proper donation?
djcordes 1 year ago
@djcordes The monks shouldn't have to "get around the law." They should be able to engage in this honest work without being threatened by fines or prison.
Economic liberty, like all liberties, are rights given to us by God. The monks choose to exercise that right in a harmless manner so that they may feed and clothes themselves and do good works in the community. The state has no more business stopping that than it would in barring the monks from praying.
bosspup 1 year ago
Abbot Justin, I support you and the brothers! You have my prayers and support.
guntrain68 1 year ago
@guntrain68 Ok, now that you've said it follow it up. And don't stop. Get as many as you can and as many as they can to call and say "Back off and leave them alone". Don't stop until they do. One call a day. Takes a minute and can be done anytime. And can be about anything. Let them see that we are watching and let them know that we can fire them at any time we want. (look that one up. Your gonna love what you find.) Once you talk the talk start walking the walk.
hrsqsiest 1 year ago
It occurs to me that with the exact same equipment, and skills, the monks could shift over, and sell cabinetry instead of coffins, and avoid the entire legal process.
madmanuel001 1 year ago
@madmanuel001 Why should they? That is what the monks want to do. Why should they be forced to stop what they do because it might cut into the proffits of the big corporations?
hrsqsiest 1 year ago
I simply love everything about IJ.
alkhalikoi 1 year ago
@1shabuti1 Also, forgot to mention same thing about the Amish. They are too making furniture and many other things by hand, with tools but with simple tools and sell them. No government tells them what to do. I bought fresh raw milk from them. That state just made it worse for itself.
PhotonicDoctor 1 year ago
@1shabuti1 Because this fucking country is being run by fucking sellouts, bastards, who in turn made this country very fucked. Don't worry though, the monks will win this easily. State can go fuck themselves.
PhotonicDoctor 1 year ago
@PhotonicDoctor
Actually, i think it's pretty much just lousiana.
madmanuel001 1 year ago
Oh my, it is funeral directors allied with the government, to take on monks. If I know anything from watching ninja flix, monks are going to own...
RicoMinovo 1 year ago
Fuck yeah! The guys at IJ are my heroes!
xSkraelingx 1 year ago
It's like requiring someone to have a driver's license to work in an auto assembly plant. What does knowing how to use the product have to do with manufacturing it?
DORFMONT 1 year ago
Louisiana was the battleground for the Slaughterhouse Cases, where the Supreme Court essentially gutted the 14th Amendment. The time has come for it to be overturned. Go monks and go IJ!
downsizedc 1 year ago
this is how u know our goverment has to much control.... this is bullshit...... i live in neworleans but this is makein me sick..... i mean seriously man ...... wtf is wrong with people now days....... all people do is find things to complain about and try to change..... leave well anoph alone......
601babyboy 1 year ago
@601babyboy That's the whole problem. Everybody is complaining and nobody is doing anything.
hrsqsiest 1 year ago
I hope the statists in Louisiana get struck by lightning. Picking on monks, for heaven's sake!
jasonaorr 1 year ago
This boils down to government persecution of religion. Monks and nuns have a 2,000 yr history of making and selling things to support themselves. Wines, caskets, jellys, etc.
If Louisiana wins, then other monasteries and nunneries will be forced to stop producing wine and food products. Effectively they will be shut down by the State and special interests. Could be the funeral lobby wants the casket sales and the State wants the sales tax
macpduff 1 year ago 8
@macpduff I think this points more to special interests getting their way through law instead of honest competition by making the entry to business too high, lengthy or difficult. Did you see the Utah lawsuit about the woman they tried to force to go through years of beauty school where they don't teach braiding in order for her to get a license to braid? Special interests make me sick.
brad238899 7 months ago
Can you say "Pierce v. Society of Sisters"?
rickinchvilleva 1 year ago
This is an awesome video that really shows how bad things have gotten. Economic liberty is a foundation for all of our rights.
bosspup 1 year ago 2
we're gonna need a license to walk on the sidewalks soon enough...
tmac9938 1 year ago 2
wow you guys have alot of red tape
navh07 1 year ago
First flowers and now caskets and coffins?? God, this licensing shit is madness! There's nothing they won't license. Honestly, why does it matter who's selling fucking coffins? Since when did selling coffins become some huge safety risk or potential hazard?!
whoo689 1 year ago 20