Well you are right alttabreviews i don't hate buying nx but I would feel stupid if anyone in this world would buy nx that only lasts for 90 days I rarely buy nx but if I did i would use it on getting stuff to improve your stats on the game or gain money like mts where u trade nx for items that help you
If nexon's in it expect to be exploited and ripped off and inconvenienced. That's how they are with all the games, They have more "unscheduled matinence" than regular matinence, they completely ignore the ticket system but for copy/paste monkeys, and they charge you stupidly high amount for premium. And in thier other games like mabinogi and combat arms, the premium WILL give you a stupidly high advantage.
I actually think the premium system has now changed into a noob scamming shop. People who actually want to play the game for what it is (which... isn't much with almost no end game content and a crappy community) buy things that assist you in leveling. But, most people buy the useless pixelated clothing, that goes over your armor and does nothing.
A THREE?!?!?!!? wow i was thinking like 1/10 maplestory sucks!! i took me over 24 hours to just get to level 30 and even when i got there i still had like 40 more to go before you get anything nice
But they do have real worth. Otherwise people wouldn't buy them. Monetary value is completely relative. What would be immoral is promising them more than they're getting, or forcing them to buy it.
i think its immoral due to sheer overpricing and misvalue. theres no way you get what you pay for in maple. and theres many games that will do it for you for much cheaper. and it will look much nicer
Prove it's overpriced. Prove the misvalue. If people are buying something clearly the price is agreeable to them, and that's what's important. Just because the price is disagreeable to you doesn't mean it's objectively too high. The fact that the same price continues to be charged is proof that it isn't too high, otherwise Nexon would lower it, because not enough people could afford it, and they wouldn't profit enough.
Other games might offer similar features, and probably there are a lot of people who havn't shopped around and so they pay those high prices in ignorance (which is their fault, not Nexon's) but there are beyond any doubt far more people who genuinly prefer maplestory. Probably because it's the biggest and most expansive 2d platformer with the largest, best established community. People are willing to pay more for a brand name, because you can trust a brand name easier.
I agree with it being an expansive game and other games offering it similar features. but prove its overpriced? ok. if other games that operate on a similar system (game is free, pay for extra stuff) dont make you pay that much and are doing just fine as games. that proves they dont need to charge as much for their items as they do. I can prove its misvalue with gamers below me who paid for it saying "i cant belive i paid for that stuff" and they were fans of the game!
But there is no such thing as overpricing and misvalue. Value is relative. If you're willing to pay a price for something, that's how much it's worth to you. The people who pay for those sprites value the sprites more than the ammount of money charged for them. I sure as hell can't understand why that's the case, but to each his own. What's immoral here is your accusation. These aren't addictive drugs for sale, nor any fraud on nexon's part. You're just attacking people's choices.
Correct. Im attacking people choices because i personally see them as wrong. i see tham as wrong because as soon as they are held up against any kind of logical thinking or reason they fall down flat. if you ask someone who pays for loads of premium items they arent PROUD of what they get they know its a stupid purchase. but they still do it and it pisses me off because they are feeding a beast that need not exist. my judgements are not immoral they are simply different
I think purchases like this are only illogical at face value. Entertainment may not be as important as food or a college fund, yet I believe some entertainment and distraction are vital for maintaining sanity. My guilty pleasure is soda. If I know my routine isn't likely to be interrupted by anything interesting a soda or two can provide just the right amount of stimulation for senses that would have gone unexercised, which helps a lot to stave off crippling boredom.
And of course, this is despite the fact that soda is in no way physically or financially good for me. Would you suggest that soda manufactures are wrong to supply me with it? Who are you to suppose the people who pay for something don't have a reason to want that you just don't know about or havn't thought of?
Personally I don't find it a mystery at all that so many people are willing to cough up for Maplestory, despite the fact that many other games supply the same features for less. I think they just like the community. Many games may offer the same features, but few offer the same communities. Maplestory's community is huge and well established and brimming with likeminded people (or so people like you and Twist tell me).
Maplestory is popular... in large because it is popular. Your friends are there, or you're already there with a high level character, or you expect to meet a lot of potential new friends there because the brand is popular. Games like Latale might offer the same features, but how many times a day do you hear about Latale? It's a risk investing in something new. Maplestory is the safe option and hence the demand is high. The demand is high, and therefore so are the prices.
Really you can criticize people's choice in games all want. That's really not the issue. The issue is you calling nexon immoral for charging high prices for something that is in steep demand, something all sensible companies normally have to do just so they can continue supplying. I'm sure Nexon takes every opportunity to lower it's prices, because usually that's how you make the most money. If they havn't, it's because they don't have a choice (or they might just be stupid).
since when do companies lower prices just because they can? companies lower prices when they have to to keep people interested. its gotten to the point in maple were people will pay the price even if it goes up (which i think it has) and i think its unfair on the players of this game to have to pay for the premium stuff. having to pay to level at a decent speed to enjoy the game and having to pay to make their characters looks how they want. that to me seems unfair and greedy.
Companies lower prices whenever it will make a profit, which is often. They WANT to get as much as they can from each sale, but they know that they will sell more at a low price, as opposed to less at a higher price, and this can be a big difference. If the price for premium items has gone up that indicates the demand for those items has increased, meaning nexon can safely raise the price without losing sales. That IS the whole point about running a business. Making as much money as possible.
there are games that make there money exclusively from in game advertising. monthly subs. donations. micro-transactions are not the only way to keep a company going. and especially when you start having to pay for necessities i think thats immoral to boast having a free game and then say "oh you want ALL of the game? thats $9.99"
on a side note thanks for actually having a conversation about this as opposed to swearing at me. i know you probably think im an ass but thanks. highly refreshing.
Likewise. This is probably the only intelligent conversation I'm involved in online right now, and not for lack of trying. It might have something to do with the fact neither of us play maplestory.
Now I will consent that nexon's position and business practicies are not morally unambiguous. Are these people... stingy? Greedy? Probably. At least possibly. I would have to have an idea just what their income and expenses were before I felt comfortable judging them like that. But before I continue, let me confess that the main reason I spoke up to begin with was that I was... nervous that your accusation might be loaded, because accusations like that very often are.
What they come loaded with is not just a proposition that something is wrong, but that something is so wrong that we have to involve the government to do something about it. To punish the wrongdoer. I am of the opinion that... there are many unethical things that just aren't unethical enough to warrant that kind of attention.
This is certainly one of them. Nexon isn't hurting or enslaving anyone, and when they say their games are free, they are technically correct. It simply wouldn't be cost effective to try and bring companies like nexon to "justice", not simply when the injustice is so trivial it almost isn't there, but when it is so easily avoided by simply not doing business with them. There are also untold thousands of companies just like nexon; impossible to micromanage.
It's possible, even likely, that all you were saying is "don't do business with them, because they're unethical snobs" and my assumption was wrong. But I was certainly under an assumption regardless. I hope I was wrong. If I wasn't, I believe I have made enough of a case.
i was most definitely not sending a message out saying "punish the wrong do-ers of the internet, cast them to the flames!" all i was stating was i believe the presentation of the game as free then tacking on a price tag is wrong. immoral was probably, in hindsight, too strong a word. but i stand by my opinion that's its greedy. thanks for the discussion. :)
Why does everyone think that all kids spend their parents money, my friend has a job and he pays for it all by him self, plus you dont need to spend "real" money to get money on this game they got a thing called "MTS" which you can sell items in the game for NX cash, and there are quests that are very rewarding, the thing is he didn't get far enough to find out why people think its fun, PLUS i have meet many people and 20% out of those were either mean,scammers,and a small amount of hackers.TLDR
the game has its things but comon its ok and I say that losely the cummynity are total bastards but you do find a good person here and again but if you dont have nx in the game then its like your playing a different game : P
Do not argue that you have to pay $15 a month for WoW.
In MS, it become NECESSARY to buy NX or this game is just a piece of shit. After level 30+, people need items like Money bags, 2x exp etc. And the basically forces you to buy these things. 10k Nexon cash costs 10 bucks. You can get like... 11 Gacha tickets and nothing. In a month you'll be spending more than 30 dollars on the 2-D shit.
nice vid, kinda agree with you guys now, not that twist or whoever...(only hate)
you arguemented right...ehm.. ah yh my opinion, it goes slow..2x exp make you go faster some familie 2x exp... make you go a little more faster... still slow actually
i dont have nx i never had, only the 2x exp, they are actually worth it
I liked maple before anime
ems has a better community thought, hope no asian kids come there (seen 1)
Most people who buy that NX stuff on Maplestory must be spoiled by their parents. I'm currently a lvl 31 Ice, Lightning Wizard on this game, and my character looks just fine without the NX clothing. Some of the quests reward you with very good equips which I can appreciate, lol. And the high lvl players really think they're badass with that fancy shit they waste their parent's money on. TRUTH.
@Jrichgannon3 Have to agree. I only used NX for Exp adding and not those stupid fucking pixel armors and shit. Prefer it for stuff that actually helps you play.
this game is one of the biggest epic fails of all time, i mean when PRIVATE servers of it cant keep you entertained (flamers shut up, i've played official till 30 and fell asleep while playing too many times) you KNOW this is a terrible game, and what Neonhowl said about spammers and the like is true. So if you think this is a good game try wow or something, you deserve way better for ur money
omg heres a better review"the game has enoying quests but give you a super mario feel in an mmorpg form,the items are too expensive and gettimg money is a bitch,the game is only un if you water it down and play private servers"i got to lvl 182 cuz i had nothing else to doo took me a year and a half,then i thought"the fuck is wrong with me?"and started playing gunz
well ShoddyMink the problem isnt the game its how much of a fool you are.. most people can get to level 30 in a couple of hours so im just assuming your an idiot since it took you a year to get to 41
the community and cash shop in this game are pretty bad. that's why i only get double experience cards. cause they actaully are worth something. I feel bad for people (mainly the high levels) who buy hundreds of dollars worth of pixel clothing just for it to disapear in 30 days and buy it agian. But I do enjoy the game ignoring these things about it. Too bad a company that is cheap as dirt took it over. Nexon sucks.
I agree that the Cash system is completely retarded. But they have added a new trade system where you can sell in game items for CASH so even players who don't spend real money can get some 2d outfits =D
I would give it a 6/10 only because I played it for so long. I respect your review and I definitly hate all the anime-fan freaks on there. I am honestly one of the only non-anime-watching players on the game.
I rarely play it, only when IM bored. But good review. 5/5 and subscribed
in a nut shell, its a mediocre game, with quite possibly the worst community of any game i have ever played. If not for the community, you might even call it decent barring the grind, which is opinion, some people mind it, some people don't.
If you like the game, keep playing, because no one else in any other game wants to play with you. Thats its high point i suppose, it keeps the worst of the worst players out of better games.
mkay, first its not leik nexon is forcing ya to buy its crap (i do cuz i do .__.)
second, this game is pretty good, but im not mad at neon even though he says it sucks, but hes leik a hardcore gamer, so he expects alot from games, i dont expect much, i make more friends than i kill and im only lv 61, maplestory is pretty basic butits good to ppl who just wanna hang out and have a good time =]
and neon wuz rite bout ppl defaming u but we all get around that=D
to me, nexon is the worst gaming company i have ever seen, and is enough to make this fairly decent game go down the shiter. okay, first off, all accounts belong to nexon. you agree that wat your playing is theirs and they can dam well do whatever they want, which includes baning people for no reason at all,another thing is that nexon takes no responsability at all for what they do. if there is a glitch in the game, they simply ban anyone that exploits it, honestly have they ever heard of a test
server? thats why any real gaming company takes months to release game updates because they test it and make sure its perfect as they can get it. even if they do let out something glitchy, ill use WoW for example, there was this one rogue that figured out to get his dodge/miss/parry %'s to 103% to where he was untouchable. nothing could hit him ever. he tanked illidan and gruul's lair.
what does blizzard do when they see he was exploiting this? they say good job and thanks for helping us make the game better and they fix it by caping the dodge at 95%. no bans, nothing. Nexon holds to much pride in their half assed side scroller. that, when they release something, it is set into stone unless they can figure out a way to make money off of it. one thing, was right after beta, you could have your characters have blue eyes from creation. soon after nx was released on global they
make the only eye color from creation be black. also, i want to touch on how unbalanced the whole game is. i/l and f/p get fucked every which way. they are easily out damaged by warriors who are vastly superior at boss survival and overall damg output. the elemental wands/staffs which help boost mages dmg by a decent amount can only be gotten from gachapon, at a very small chance at that. average of those weps cost 320million. thats insane for a weapon that goes to class that nexon screws over
one last thing. it took nexon not 1, not 2, but 3 patches at an hour-2 hours each to get the elemental wands/staffs working right. how incredibly difficult can it be to make it give a certain element 1.25% dmg and the other ones .75% dmg. nx costs way to much, and pets are rediculously expensive. 12 dollars to buy a dragon egg, 5 dollars to name it, 10 dollars to buy stuff to make it actually usefull. and then most people spend about 5-10 dollars on cloths for it. enuff said!
one more point, how can they charge u real money to buy nx when the account is theirs?how can they sell you something that in the end still belongs to them? its like giving the guy down the street a thousand bucks for his old car,you can put money into it to detail it or do whatever, but in the end the car is still his and he can wreck it or drive it or blow it up for all he cares and theres nothing u can do about it. there...enuff said..boycot nexon america!
I played it for a while got addicted, than the horrible horrible grind made me crt. xD They released this monster carnaval thing that made lvling a lot nice and basicly was a grind fest competition which is hilarious but it gave an event style to it, I liked party uests as they were unique with puzzles. I would like to see 3d mmo's make use of maybe party quests with puzzels and such not just like kill! Which is weird cause typically thats the main problem with maplestory.
yea the nexon cash items are pretty gay if u could atleast keep the clothing it would be awsome i just coudlnt make it to lv 120 ended at 115 no im not giving u my stuff.
Well, I mainly play on Private server, so... I dont really have problems with this game. some pserver dont even have hackers, scammer, ahole, etc. I like it for the community.
welcome to hell, it will draw you in and you may get addicted for awhile (i did for awhile) but hopefully you get over it. its full of hackers, botters, scammers and assholes.
I agree with your POV Neonhowl, its crappy. The NX-ploitation (I myself have bought some for the pets b/c I thought the clothes and weapons were just crappy skins), the crappy high-leveled people (there's only a handful of nice one) and ,like you said, a community that basically trying to screw you. Arg it just gives me a headache...
When I go into party quest or any type of places were you battle it out like a dungeon or any place to kill on my low level warrior, people are extremly mean.
But when I play on my lv 79 fire poisen mage, people around me seem alot more nicer, they act like respectful teenagers (most are right?) And its just fine :) So i guess people treat newbies worst?
Btw Those story line really matter? People play games just for the fun of it, I don't think people really care about story line.
...i would like to say that thats completly incorect i have a lvl 35 archer and my other friend is a lvl 58 mage and both of us seems to be doing fine wit out that stuff cause were smart and we know that paying for games in the end is a waste of money. but wtv just my oppinion.
but every game just seems that they need to make a living. yes WoW is probably one fantastic game and having it for 15$ a month seems quite ok. For maplestory you are already given a f2p. such as WoW is 10 days F2p and lets be honest how far can u go for 10 days. so just paying for simple stylish clothing in maplestory seems more then enough fair for them to make a living. Looking forward to your next reviews if you need any help just message me.
You dont have to pay any money to get anywhere in maple story i got to level 50 then and 47 on a different character and dicided to get nx because my friend did its acctually fun when you get nx becuase theres such a difference in the way u look and the way you looked before and I only bought 25k.
"its acctually fun when you get nx becuase theres such a difference in the way u look and the way you looked before and I only bought 25k"
your not getting my point. you shouldnt have to "pay for pixels" as napalm fist puts it sometimes.... i just think its wrong for players to have to pay to experiance the whole game or be on a par with other players
you're just mad because maplestory is a shitty game and that you're wasting your time playing it. So you make fun of the guy telling his honest and true opinion about a game
Im a nobody? Look how immature you sound right now over a game. What those that have to do with this video, and tell me one thing you need from the cash shop in order to keep playing this game hmm?
attidude toward. where as this game it sounded as if you wante to murder it. and comming back to the graphic system here u said it rather sucked because its a bunch of pixels but looking at the grand chase review being one of your highest reviews and seeing how theirs only one purpose as well to the gaeplay is just killing. maplestory seems way bigger then grand chase and it certainly shows. the game is big. i understand about the bullshit pay users.
Well i agree on the annoying grinding system is just horribly annoying but as far as the gameplay went u should have told about party quest which i actually fnd extreemly fun even after the 10th time. If its possible for your up comming reviews try to join a private server to get the feeling of what a high lvl character is. because u playing as a warrior during that time is understandable how boring it can get. in most reviews you approched each game as if it were new to you so you gav a content
Sorry for the double post but I forgot to mention that the MapleStory version your playing look pretty outdated.
I would appreciate if you would review the game of it current version. A lot of things has changed but in my opinon it's for the worst then what it already is.
Back during the time when I play beta, everyone was so nice and would help each other do quest and stuff.
Today however is quite different, the community is override by high lvl's prick, scammers, ksers, and N00bs but mostly N00bs(so many words can describe this I don't even want to bother)
This game is so heavily base upon cash that you won't get without using real money. There are so many advantages for cash users.
In my opinion, save your time, money and soul by not playing this game.
ok i know u dont like maple story but think of it the only problem i herd from u was its the community and the nexon cash items but what if thouse never existed would i still think it was a bad game oh and speaking of try reviewing nexon's combat arms or suger rush when it comes out. plz reply
srry i personally thought it was a crap organized review yes maplestory is to say the least geeky but the diff between most mmos is that this is 2d which is refreshing. i dont know what was wit u and the negative attidude toward the game/ xfire. i do like ur other reviews but uu can just also recomend p servers if u want premium items. as stated b4 poorly organized review sorry.
Well you are right alttabreviews i don't hate buying nx but I would feel stupid if anyone in this world would buy nx that only lasts for 90 days I rarely buy nx but if I did i would use it on getting stuff to improve your stats on the game or gain money like mts where u trade nx for items that help you
Original648 1 year ago
I agree with your statement on the high levels being smug bastards and i have seen alot of hackers on it too.
jamends1220 1 year ago
furcadia looks alot better then this o_o'
MikeMsDaughter11 1 year ago
LOL I like some members of the community but I quit this game after someone hacked me. And wonderking is wayyyy better
SupAndy123 1 year ago
If nexon's in it expect to be exploited and ripped off and inconvenienced. That's how they are with all the games, They have more "unscheduled matinence" than regular matinence, they completely ignore the ticket system but for copy/paste monkeys, and they charge you stupidly high amount for premium. And in thier other games like mabinogi and combat arms, the premium WILL give you a stupidly high advantage.
stupefy777 1 year ago
@stupefy777 Try wonderking its way better!
catclan2 1 year ago
I love the shit out of anime.I really do.But this game fucking sucks ass.I played it once,never want to again.
AnGeLaXl521 1 year ago
I actually think the premium system has now changed into a noob scamming shop. People who actually want to play the game for what it is (which... isn't much with almost no end game content and a crappy community) buy things that assist you in leveling. But, most people buy the useless pixelated clothing, that goes over your armor and does nothing.
keenan150 1 year ago
im not an anime fan (well.... i like dbz alot) i like the graphics awsome review tho i really like the game
smellslikevin 1 year ago
Personally i prefer Mabinogi.
lulzgaming 1 year ago
Thanks watching this helped me quit the evil that is MS. I am now Maple free.
Grieving 1 year ago
I don't remember you swearing in this review. xD
Imsocoolman5 1 year ago
A THREE?!?!?!!? wow i was thinking like 1/10 maplestory sucks!! i took me over 24 hours to just get to level 30 and even when i got there i still had like 40 more to go before you get anything nice
Skyhook311 1 year ago
@Skyhook311
You must suck, takes me like 4 hours to get to 30
colty123 1 year ago
wats the beginning music?
MasterpezeProduction 2 years ago
What's "immoral" about charging a lot of money for premium items in a game? If people are willing to buy it it's their choice.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
hey im pretty sure drug dealers say the same thing. its immoral to sell something with no real world worth for money
AltTabReviews 2 years ago
But they do have real worth. Otherwise people wouldn't buy them. Monetary value is completely relative. What would be immoral is promising them more than they're getting, or forcing them to buy it.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
i think its immoral due to sheer overpricing and misvalue. theres no way you get what you pay for in maple. and theres many games that will do it for you for much cheaper. and it will look much nicer
AltTabReviews 2 years ago
Prove it's overpriced. Prove the misvalue. If people are buying something clearly the price is agreeable to them, and that's what's important. Just because the price is disagreeable to you doesn't mean it's objectively too high. The fact that the same price continues to be charged is proof that it isn't too high, otherwise Nexon would lower it, because not enough people could afford it, and they wouldn't profit enough.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
Other games might offer similar features, and probably there are a lot of people who havn't shopped around and so they pay those high prices in ignorance (which is their fault, not Nexon's) but there are beyond any doubt far more people who genuinly prefer maplestory. Probably because it's the biggest and most expansive 2d platformer with the largest, best established community. People are willing to pay more for a brand name, because you can trust a brand name easier.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
I agree with it being an expansive game and other games offering it similar features. but prove its overpriced? ok. if other games that operate on a similar system (game is free, pay for extra stuff) dont make you pay that much and are doing just fine as games. that proves they dont need to charge as much for their items as they do. I can prove its misvalue with gamers below me who paid for it saying "i cant belive i paid for that stuff" and they were fans of the game!
AltTabReviews 2 years ago
But there is no such thing as overpricing and misvalue. Value is relative. If you're willing to pay a price for something, that's how much it's worth to you. The people who pay for those sprites value the sprites more than the ammount of money charged for them. I sure as hell can't understand why that's the case, but to each his own. What's immoral here is your accusation. These aren't addictive drugs for sale, nor any fraud on nexon's part. You're just attacking people's choices.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
Correct. Im attacking people choices because i personally see them as wrong. i see tham as wrong because as soon as they are held up against any kind of logical thinking or reason they fall down flat. if you ask someone who pays for loads of premium items they arent PROUD of what they get they know its a stupid purchase. but they still do it and it pisses me off because they are feeding a beast that need not exist. my judgements are not immoral they are simply different
AltTabReviews 2 years ago
I think purchases like this are only illogical at face value. Entertainment may not be as important as food or a college fund, yet I believe some entertainment and distraction are vital for maintaining sanity. My guilty pleasure is soda. If I know my routine isn't likely to be interrupted by anything interesting a soda or two can provide just the right amount of stimulation for senses that would have gone unexercised, which helps a lot to stave off crippling boredom.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
And of course, this is despite the fact that soda is in no way physically or financially good for me. Would you suggest that soda manufactures are wrong to supply me with it? Who are you to suppose the people who pay for something don't have a reason to want that you just don't know about or havn't thought of?
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
Personally I don't find it a mystery at all that so many people are willing to cough up for Maplestory, despite the fact that many other games supply the same features for less. I think they just like the community. Many games may offer the same features, but few offer the same communities. Maplestory's community is huge and well established and brimming with likeminded people (or so people like you and Twist tell me).
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
Maplestory is popular... in large because it is popular. Your friends are there, or you're already there with a high level character, or you expect to meet a lot of potential new friends there because the brand is popular. Games like Latale might offer the same features, but how many times a day do you hear about Latale? It's a risk investing in something new. Maplestory is the safe option and hence the demand is high. The demand is high, and therefore so are the prices.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
Really you can criticize people's choice in games all want. That's really not the issue. The issue is you calling nexon immoral for charging high prices for something that is in steep demand, something all sensible companies normally have to do just so they can continue supplying. I'm sure Nexon takes every opportunity to lower it's prices, because usually that's how you make the most money. If they havn't, it's because they don't have a choice (or they might just be stupid).
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
since when do companies lower prices just because they can? companies lower prices when they have to to keep people interested. its gotten to the point in maple were people will pay the price even if it goes up (which i think it has) and i think its unfair on the players of this game to have to pay for the premium stuff. having to pay to level at a decent speed to enjoy the game and having to pay to make their characters looks how they want. that to me seems unfair and greedy.
AltTabReviews 2 years ago
Companies lower prices whenever it will make a profit, which is often. They WANT to get as much as they can from each sale, but they know that they will sell more at a low price, as opposed to less at a higher price, and this can be a big difference. If the price for premium items has gone up that indicates the demand for those items has increased, meaning nexon can safely raise the price without losing sales. That IS the whole point about running a business. Making as much money as possible.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
there are games that make there money exclusively from in game advertising. monthly subs. donations. micro-transactions are not the only way to keep a company going. and especially when you start having to pay for necessities i think thats immoral to boast having a free game and then say "oh you want ALL of the game? thats $9.99"
on a side note thanks for actually having a conversation about this as opposed to swearing at me. i know you probably think im an ass but thanks. highly refreshing.
AltTabReviews 2 years ago
Likewise. This is probably the only intelligent conversation I'm involved in online right now, and not for lack of trying. It might have something to do with the fact neither of us play maplestory.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
Now I will consent that nexon's position and business practicies are not morally unambiguous. Are these people... stingy? Greedy? Probably. At least possibly. I would have to have an idea just what their income and expenses were before I felt comfortable judging them like that. But before I continue, let me confess that the main reason I spoke up to begin with was that I was... nervous that your accusation might be loaded, because accusations like that very often are.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
What they come loaded with is not just a proposition that something is wrong, but that something is so wrong that we have to involve the government to do something about it. To punish the wrongdoer. I am of the opinion that... there are many unethical things that just aren't unethical enough to warrant that kind of attention.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
This is certainly one of them. Nexon isn't hurting or enslaving anyone, and when they say their games are free, they are technically correct. It simply wouldn't be cost effective to try and bring companies like nexon to "justice", not simply when the injustice is so trivial it almost isn't there, but when it is so easily avoided by simply not doing business with them. There are also untold thousands of companies just like nexon; impossible to micromanage.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
It's possible, even likely, that all you were saying is "don't do business with them, because they're unethical snobs" and my assumption was wrong. But I was certainly under an assumption regardless. I hope I was wrong. If I wasn't, I believe I have made enough of a case.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
i was most definitely not sending a message out saying "punish the wrong do-ers of the internet, cast them to the flames!" all i was stating was i believe the presentation of the game as free then tacking on a price tag is wrong. immoral was probably, in hindsight, too strong a word. but i stand by my opinion that's its greedy. thanks for the discussion. :)
AltTabReviews 2 years ago
what u use to record??
MasterOfGameplay 2 years ago
The "2D" costume makes me happy, so I'm fine with it.
100205405 2 years ago
Why does everyone think that all kids spend their parents money, my friend has a job and he pays for it all by him self, plus you dont need to spend "real" money to get money on this game they got a thing called "MTS" which you can sell items in the game for NX cash, and there are quests that are very rewarding, the thing is he didn't get far enough to find out why people think its fun, PLUS i have meet many people and 20% out of those were either mean,scammers,and a small amount of hackers.TLDR
Korflog666 2 years ago
your friend wastes his hard earned money on this?!
God forbid he do himself a favor and buy a half decent game thats not a grind feast.
Emericaskaterx 2 years ago
the game has its things but comon its ok and I say that losely the cummynity are total bastards but you do find a good person here and again but if you dont have nx in the game then its like your playing a different game : P
sampjacks 2 years ago
Alright listen up.
Do not argue that you have to pay $15 a month for WoW.
In MS, it become NECESSARY to buy NX or this game is just a piece of shit. After level 30+, people need items like Money bags, 2x exp etc. And the basically forces you to buy these things. 10k Nexon cash costs 10 bucks. You can get like... 11 Gacha tickets and nothing. In a month you'll be spending more than 30 dollars on the 2-D shit.
Save your money is right.
SasukeZT1 2 years ago
you tottaly right. I can't believe these dumbass kids waste there money on this game.
Fuck save that money and they could play an actual decent game like Wow
Emericaskaterx 2 years ago
Yep and if their parents dont like paying for online games *Mine T_T*, They should at least play decent MMORPG's that dont hag your cash.
Ex:
Fiesta
Perfect world
Many more...
SasukeZT1 2 years ago
Community and grind sucks ass....
SasukeZT1 2 years ago
10 fcking pounds is:
around $20 Canada,
almost $30 USD,
and like 3700 Japanese yen!
sonicspeed011 2 years ago
It's not exploitation if people CHOOSE to buy something. Stupid, maybe. Maybe.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
nice vid, kinda agree with you guys now, not that twist or whoever...(only hate)
you arguemented right...ehm.. ah yh my opinion, it goes slow..2x exp make you go faster some familie 2x exp... make you go a little more faster... still slow actually
i dont have nx i never had, only the 2x exp, they are actually worth it
I liked maple before anime
ems has a better community thought, hope no asian kids come there (seen 1)
dont cr4p me under cuz i'm nice to ms
mapleaars 2 years ago
amen dude, i like nx, is lame xD
HelioStudZ 2 years ago
yes well, nx could be a little cheaper, but its not all free to run an online game that big. so they need money
MaplePERSON8 2 years ago
i thought maple was 2d
himmmanlady 2 years ago
Maybe they are all so evil, because they can't kill eachother, pvp = ultimate release <3 xD
Joshawanagan 2 years ago
Most people who buy that NX stuff on Maplestory must be spoiled by their parents. I'm currently a lvl 31 Ice, Lightning Wizard on this game, and my character looks just fine without the NX clothing. Some of the quests reward you with very good equips which I can appreciate, lol. And the high lvl players really think they're badass with that fancy shit they waste their parent's money on. TRUTH.
Jrichgannon3 2 years ago 6
@Jrichgannon3 Have to agree. I only used NX for Exp adding and not those stupid fucking pixel armors and shit. Prefer it for stuff that actually helps you play.
lulzgaming 1 year ago
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Jrichgannon3 2 years ago
hav u guys reviewed Fiesta Online?
reddorf 2 years ago
10 pounds for a shirt in a game!? thats about 20 dollers (in canadian money that is)
y2kize 2 years ago 2
Good reviews man.
samplepie 2 years ago
whats the song!!!
vinc0r11 2 years ago
I played this once. Got to first job, then never touched it again. :V
Corneliustheamoeba 2 years ago
Lol i did the same thing xD
falbohunter 2 years ago
me too
agathor3210 2 years ago
Yeah, me too. I thought "Can't wait till first job! It'll get so much fun" Then I got there and realized all you do is grind and grind and grind.
Justin13L 2 years ago
i didn't I headed everyones warning and stayed away from it
holyknight70 2 years ago
this game is one of the biggest epic fails of all time, i mean when PRIVATE servers of it cant keep you entertained (flamers shut up, i've played official till 30 and fell asleep while playing too many times) you KNOW this is a terrible game, and what Neonhowl said about spammers and the like is true. So if you think this is a good game try wow or something, you deserve way better for ur money
addictofanime 2 years ago
LOL paying money for a 2d costume
cedzcs 2 years ago 3
Yeah and the costume doesn't even do anything.
Justin13L 2 years ago
omg heres a better review"the game has enoying quests but give you a super mario feel in an mmorpg form,the items are too expensive and gettimg money is a bitch,the game is only un if you water it down and play private servers"i got to lvl 182 cuz i had nothing else to doo took me a year and a half,then i thought"the fuck is wrong with me?"and started playing gunz
1337awesomeness 2 years ago
ahahahahahahaaahah
GOONxANtiSCruB 2 years ago
took me a year for lvl 41 >.> this game sux
ShoddyMink 2 years ago
lol u suck at maplestory XD and yeh it does kinda suck, but theres nice people who just so happen to be 9-50 years old you can talk to=P
1337awesomeness 2 years ago
well ShoddyMink the problem isnt the game its how much of a fool you are.. most people can get to level 30 in a couple of hours so im just assuming your an idiot since it took you a year to get to 41
scar504 2 years ago
meh i exaggerated it took more like a month.
but you must have no life if it takes you a couple of hours.
ShoddyMink 2 years ago
yeah because i spent 2 hours leveling up and you spent 1 year leveling up i have no life cause that makes sense
scar504 2 years ago
note i said i exaggerated
ShoddyMink 2 years ago
DUDE...It's easy to level up to 30 within 4 hours.
schoolsux0rz 2 years ago
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Jrichgannon3 2 years ago
the community and cash shop in this game are pretty bad. that's why i only get double experience cards. cause they actaully are worth something. I feel bad for people (mainly the high levels) who buy hundreds of dollars worth of pixel clothing just for it to disapear in 30 days and buy it agian. But I do enjoy the game ignoring these things about it. Too bad a company that is cheap as dirt took it over. Nexon sucks.
icetray123 2 years ago
This game is fun for like 1 mouth and u get bored after this.
SonicoM4F 3 years ago
so true
forthahordepwn 2 years ago
the game is stupid, repeditive. long to level and extremely censord. it rips off i dont know how many animes and games and above all just sucks
mainly cus nexon only cares about the gamers money and with its popularity they didnt realy have to try much
Katzonaza 3 years ago 7
finally someone agrees how bad this game really is
tmark66 3 years ago
I agree that the Cash system is completely retarded. But they have added a new trade system where you can sell in game items for CASH so even players who don't spend real money can get some 2d outfits =D
I would give it a 6/10 only because I played it for so long. I respect your review and I definitly hate all the anime-fan freaks on there. I am honestly one of the only non-anime-watching players on the game.
I rarely play it, only when IM bored. But good review. 5/5 and subscribed
LoganHeckleBerry 3 years ago
this game is so cool!
new and exciting skills at every level, and at every level it unlocks brand new engaging quests thats fun!
/endsarcasm
mikejaxer 3 years ago
When is the third review?
SpiralEnigmal 3 years ago
Uh, the game is just a giant grind, what game with a level cap of 200 or somthing has it take 3 hours for level 20!?!
I mean, atleast in runescape level 20 takes an hour, with a level cap of 126 or something.
plainodd 3 years ago
yea it took like 2 years for the first player to hit level cap, its just rediculouse
IZAPUXX 3 years ago
in a nut shell, its a mediocre game, with quite possibly the worst community of any game i have ever played. If not for the community, you might even call it decent barring the grind, which is opinion, some people mind it, some people don't.
If you like the game, keep playing, because no one else in any other game wants to play with you. Thats its high point i suppose, it keeps the worst of the worst players out of better games.
agemos 3 years ago
EVERYONE SHUT UPP!!!!!!!...
mkay, first its not leik nexon is forcing ya to buy its crap (i do cuz i do .__.)
second, this game is pretty good, but im not mad at neon even though he says it sucks, but hes leik a hardcore gamer, so he expects alot from games, i dont expect much, i make more friends than i kill and im only lv 61, maplestory is pretty basic butits good to ppl who just wanna hang out and have a good time =]
and neon wuz rite bout ppl defaming u but we all get around that=D
klaid 3 years ago
Nexon is brainwashing people. Period.
FattieWTF 3 years ago
to me, nexon is the worst gaming company i have ever seen, and is enough to make this fairly decent game go down the shiter. okay, first off, all accounts belong to nexon. you agree that wat your playing is theirs and they can dam well do whatever they want, which includes baning people for no reason at all,another thing is that nexon takes no responsability at all for what they do. if there is a glitch in the game, they simply ban anyone that exploits it, honestly have they ever heard of a test
IZAPUXX 3 years ago
server? thats why any real gaming company takes months to release game updates because they test it and make sure its perfect as they can get it. even if they do let out something glitchy, ill use WoW for example, there was this one rogue that figured out to get his dodge/miss/parry %'s to 103% to where he was untouchable. nothing could hit him ever. he tanked illidan and gruul's lair.
IZAPUXX 3 years ago 2
what does blizzard do when they see he was exploiting this? they say good job and thanks for helping us make the game better and they fix it by caping the dodge at 95%. no bans, nothing. Nexon holds to much pride in their half assed side scroller. that, when they release something, it is set into stone unless they can figure out a way to make money off of it. one thing, was right after beta, you could have your characters have blue eyes from creation. soon after nx was released on global they
IZAPUXX 3 years ago 2
make the only eye color from creation be black. also, i want to touch on how unbalanced the whole game is. i/l and f/p get fucked every which way. they are easily out damaged by warriors who are vastly superior at boss survival and overall damg output. the elemental wands/staffs which help boost mages dmg by a decent amount can only be gotten from gachapon, at a very small chance at that. average of those weps cost 320million. thats insane for a weapon that goes to class that nexon screws over
IZAPUXX 3 years ago 2
one last thing. it took nexon not 1, not 2, but 3 patches at an hour-2 hours each to get the elemental wands/staffs working right. how incredibly difficult can it be to make it give a certain element 1.25% dmg and the other ones .75% dmg. nx costs way to much, and pets are rediculously expensive. 12 dollars to buy a dragon egg, 5 dollars to name it, 10 dollars to buy stuff to make it actually usefull. and then most people spend about 5-10 dollars on cloths for it. enuff said!
IZAPUXX 3 years ago 2
one more point, how can they charge u real money to buy nx when the account is theirs?how can they sell you something that in the end still belongs to them? its like giving the guy down the street a thousand bucks for his old car,you can put money into it to detail it or do whatever, but in the end the car is still his and he can wreck it or drive it or blow it up for all he cares and theres nothing u can do about it. there...enuff said..boycot nexon america!
IZAPUXX 3 years ago 2
"hes leik a hardcore gamer, so he expects alot from games"
i own a wii? i expect a game to atleast be..you know...playable...with..oh i dont know....some effort in it?
-Neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
Lawllzzz
I played it for a while got addicted, than the horrible horrible grind made me crt. xD They released this monster carnaval thing that made lvling a lot nice and basicly was a grind fest competition which is hilarious but it gave an event style to it, I liked party uests as they were unique with puzzles. I would like to see 3d mmo's make use of maybe party quests with puzzels and such not just like kill! Which is weird cause typically thats the main problem with maplestory.
Joshawanagan 3 years ago
effort ftw
IZAPUXX 3 years ago
i think maplestory is pretty bad because all you do is kill monsters.
samsam114 3 years ago 3
I DO buy nexon cash but only for hairstyles and transparent hat so about £5 every few months
XavierAsmodae 3 years ago
yea the nexon cash items are pretty gay if u could atleast keep the clothing it would be awsome i just coudlnt make it to lv 120 ended at 115 no im not giving u my stuff.
obeliskofra1 3 years ago
and yeah i also agree that NX users are bunch of Aholes hidding behind their monitors.
kittehLORDZ 3 years ago
Well, I mainly play on Private server, so... I dont really have problems with this game. some pserver dont even have hackers, scammer, ahole, etc. I like it for the community.
kittehLORDZ 3 years ago
welcome to hell, it will draw you in and you may get addicted for awhile (i did for awhile) but hopefully you get over it. its full of hackers, botters, scammers and assholes.
gongo3090 3 years ago 2
Lol, agree.
LaggForFun 3 years ago
Couldnt agree with you more about the community. Its so stupid..people with NX cash think their the best.
LaggForFun 3 years ago
if you want nx stuff, just play private servers lol
mAnBE4Rp1g 3 years ago
we dont review private servers. we review the games servers that the company provides otherwise you can call world of warcraft a free game..
-Neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
Not everyone in Maple Story are like that... if you acctually get to know someone in Maple Story its fun.
R33S3Y 3 years ago
I'd say 3/4 of the people are evil people.
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
I agree with your POV Neonhowl, its crappy. The NX-ploitation (I myself have bought some for the pets b/c I thought the clothes and weapons were just crappy skins), the crappy high-leveled people (there's only a handful of nice one) and ,like you said, a community that basically trying to screw you. Arg it just gives me a headache...
PedroC93 3 years ago
I love your reviews lol. Keep it up and bring some more when you can!
BMJS911 3 years ago
u know wuts horrible??? mabinogi.
i'd bet you'd get more pissed off at that game then maple story mabinogi is horrible.
h8 to be a dick but that game SUX
Azndude111 3 years ago 2
mmmmmm... bit harsh but i do agree on nexon being money hungry shit bags who only want ur money
malekatemoss 3 years ago
lmfao ....this is kingmeka from gunz
MeKa360 3 years ago
Another accurate review. Might be a decent game if the community didn't suck and the grind wasn't so horrible.
vicvictorw 3 years ago
So basically..as i also thought...this game sucks
MarinoVargas 3 years ago
When I go into party quest or any type of places were you battle it out like a dungeon or any place to kill on my low level warrior, people are extremly mean.
But when I play on my lv 79 fire poisen mage, people around me seem alot more nicer, they act like respectful teenagers (most are right?) And its just fine :) So i guess people treat newbies worst?
Btw Those story line really matter? People play games just for the fun of it, I don't think people really care about story line.
STAINILIIEY 3 years ago
...i would like to say that thats completly incorect i have a lvl 35 archer and my other friend is a lvl 58 mage and both of us seems to be doing fine wit out that stuff cause were smart and we know that paying for games in the end is a waste of money. but wtv just my oppinion.
tazman26 3 years ago
nce job.i use to like maplestory but to much fucken idoit and little kid.
randyvan400 3 years ago
Im not mean to ppl. But I will agree with you, their ARE ALOT of evil/mean/nasty lil shits that need to die but not really just hurt badly.
lilyaoiboi 3 years ago
but every game just seems that they need to make a living. yes WoW is probably one fantastic game and having it for 15$ a month seems quite ok. For maplestory you are already given a f2p. such as WoW is 10 days F2p and lets be honest how far can u go for 10 days. so just paying for simple stylish clothing in maplestory seems more then enough fair for them to make a living. Looking forward to your next reviews if you need any help just message me.
tazman26 3 years ago
to get anywhere in maple you need to pay around 50 a month if you want a good amount of 2x + clothes + pet
suicidaloreo 3 years ago
50 what a month? 50 dollars?
And not really, Im lv 79 and I didn't need 50k nx if thats what ur talking about.
STAINILIIEY 3 years ago
You dont have to pay any money to get anywhere in maple story i got to level 50 then and 47 on a different character and dicided to get nx because my friend did its acctually fun when you get nx becuase theres such a difference in the way u look and the way you looked before and I only bought 25k.
R33S3Y 3 years ago
"its acctually fun when you get nx becuase theres such a difference in the way u look and the way you looked before and I only bought 25k"
your not getting my point. you shouldnt have to "pay for pixels" as napalm fist puts it sometimes.... i just think its wrong for players to have to pay to experiance the whole game or be on a par with other players
- Neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
Well then what is your take on World of Warcraft? Where you have to pay monthly to play the game AT ALL.
TazeRtubed 3 years ago
I think world or warcraft is amazing
and world of warcraft never advertises itself falsely as free wearas these games do
-Neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
I think you're replying to the wrong person. I totally agree about not needing nx to get around places and stuff.
STAINILIIEY 3 years ago
You're a nobody and maple and never will be without nx.
Come back when you can horntail etc and you won't say the same.
suicidaloreo 3 years ago
yeah that must be why everyone apart from you who commented agreed with me
-Neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
reply function in youtube is messed up, I was replying to some commenter that I can no longer remember
suicidaloreo 3 years ago
also, I've played the game at top levels and was among the top 15 overall.. I can tell you that the game is terrible without feeling bad.
suicidaloreo 3 years ago
you're just mad because maplestory is a shitty game and that you're wasting your time playing it. So you make fun of the guy telling his honest and true opinion about a game
samsam114 3 years ago 2
You're a nobody and maple and never will be without nx.
Come back when you can horntail etc and you won't say the same.
suicidaloreo 3 years ago
Im a nobody? Look how immature you sound right now over a game. What those that have to do with this video, and tell me one thing you need from the cash shop in order to keep playing this game hmm?
STAINILIIEY 3 years ago 2
attidude toward. where as this game it sounded as if you wante to murder it. and comming back to the graphic system here u said it rather sucked because its a bunch of pixels but looking at the grand chase review being one of your highest reviews and seeing how theirs only one purpose as well to the gaeplay is just killing. maplestory seems way bigger then grand chase and it certainly shows. the game is big. i understand about the bullshit pay users.
tazman26 3 years ago
i did actually give them points for the graphics becuase - apart from ghost online - theyre almost unique....
-Neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
Well i agree on the annoying grinding system is just horribly annoying but as far as the gameplay went u should have told about party quest which i actually fnd extreemly fun even after the 10th time. If its possible for your up comming reviews try to join a private server to get the feeling of what a high lvl character is. because u playing as a warrior during that time is understandable how boring it can get. in most reviews you approched each game as if it were new to you so you gav a content
tazman26 3 years ago
Sorry for the double post but I forgot to mention that the MapleStory version your playing look pretty outdated.
I would appreciate if you would review the game of it current version. A lot of things has changed but in my opinon it's for the worst then what it already is.
btlv 3 years ago
sorry the videos in this one are just gameplay i found on youtube due to th crappyness of the laptop having to use....
- neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
Back during the time when I play beta, everyone was so nice and would help each other do quest and stuff.
Today however is quite different, the community is override by high lvl's prick, scammers, ksers, and N00bs but mostly N00bs(so many words can describe this I don't even want to bother)
This game is so heavily base upon cash that you won't get without using real money. There are so many advantages for cash users.
In my opinion, save your time, money and soul by not playing this game.
btlv 3 years ago 4
My doubts about Maple Story were cleared, i won't play this game. Thanks for the review.
MeugeC21 3 years ago 2
Also, 15 a month for WoW is worth it for an amazing experience. that $15 a month goes towards gettin me amazing customer service.
Darkfire9189 3 years ago
i played real wow for two years then my account got frozen cos my "funds" ran out..when wrath of the lich king comes out i will resume it.
i play on the kilrogg server - Neonhowl lvl 70 hunter
- neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
Within a single day of my review, you feel you must best me, sir!?
I accept your challenge.
Twisttheawesome 3 years ago
ok i know u dont like maple story but think of it the only problem i herd from u was its the community and the nexon cash items but what if thouse never existed would i still think it was a bad game oh and speaking of try reviewing nexon's combat arms or suger rush when it comes out. plz reply
deoblosblood 3 years ago
No,its a horrid community, horrid grind, and horrid everything shut the hell up.
Darkfire9189 3 years ago
vicious community
repetetive grind
expensive everything
damn straight!
- neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
srry i personally thought it was a crap organized review yes maplestory is to say the least geeky but the diff between most mmos is that this is 2d which is refreshing. i dont know what was wit u and the negative attidude toward the game/ xfire. i do like ur other reviews but uu can just also recomend p servers if u want premium items. as stated b4 poorly organized review sorry.
tazman26 3 years ago
please explain what u mean by poorly organised?
lack of points?
lack of order in the points i made?
- neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago
This is so grate. You all should keep reviewing.
And Maple Story is now not going to be played by me,, now that I know it's gust a big wast of time. Good luck in more reviews and keep them coming.
wolfmech 3 years ago
thankyou :)
im going to post a list or games i play and my in game names and servers if anyone wants to meet up on dekaron :)
- neonhowl
AltTabReviews 3 years ago