Many times when a the scrap value is low { usually cast iron } out dated rail stock is dump off shore to creatre an artificial reef. Off the Matthan Beach peir whitch was the end on the RED LINE, THEY dump all the tram cars to creat a reef. I think this is what is going on, because the wheels look like they have been dumped while the barge was stationary { best not to be underway when operating a deck crain and shifting weight on the barge / ship / train ferry.
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If you can get some info you know currently on the ship and it's cargo, I can probably help, but so far, all I can say is the locomotice was a 4-8-2, and apperantly had about 5 train cars behind it.
yes i have heard of a story about a ship that was sinking too fast to reach land in time, so the had a couple of trains aboard, so they thought of y keeping them and threw them over board, and the ship made it back to port.
looking at the pic, I notice something curious. At about 0:06 in the video, you see what looks to be a freight bogie, complete with axles and friction bearings. It also looks to be a leaf spring, meaning that it's probably part of the tender. at 0:11 you see the second bogie. Given the depth of the water, I'd wager that the train was lost over the side of a ship or ferry, and then subsequently whatever could be salvaged, was. (boilers and bogies being too heavy)
The locomotive here was probably built in the early 1900's. The two steam locomotives you are thinking of were built ( and sank on the vessel delivering them ) in the early 1850's and both are sitting upright on the ocean floor, intact. There has been discussion of raising the locomotives, but I don't think anything has come of this so far.
I do see a drive wheel, but no frame or running gear from a steamer, both importent parts that the drive wheels would be atatched too.
These look like early friction bareing trucks from boxcars. I don't see the frame for a boxcar or any brake rigging or air lines, so chances are they were traveling alone as deck crago and there really is no "train" just train parts.
a better inditification could be made if we saw the boiler.
We are uncertain on how they came to be here. However what we assume is that a cargo ship ran aground at this point (probably over 100 years ago). To lighten the ship to refloat it some of the heavier cargo was dumped. The train boiler is on the reef but the wheels for the engine and the wheels and frames fo carriges are further away and appear to be lined up as they were packed on board the ship. We would eventually hope to uncover insurance documents that would give details of this loss
At the moment there are no plans to do anything with it. To scientifically recover these items would cost a lot of money as they are located at a very isolated and dangerous spot, and once they are brought out of the water they will need several years of costly conservation. If we find out more information about the incident we will then decide pon the future of the items.
how the fuck do you get a train underwater?
thesideboobgodfather 3 months ago
Many times when a the scrap value is low { usually cast iron } out dated rail stock is dump off shore to creatre an artificial reef. Off the Matthan Beach peir whitch was the end on the RED LINE, THEY dump all the tram cars to creat a reef. I think this is what is going on, because the wheels look like they have been dumped while the barge was stationary { best not to be underway when operating a deck crain and shifting weight on the barge / ship / train ferry.
UtgaVonScheigle 4 months ago
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wwwtotalitaerde 7 months ago
question, how the hell did the train go underwater?
Ndizzyinthehizzy 9 months ago
OH MY GOD A WHEEL GRAB IT U CAN MAKE A FORTUNE :)
OMEGA87975 9 months ago
The wreck of the Arundo, off New Jersey has WW2 locomotives that toppled-over onto the sand. She was sunk by Nazi U-boats.
modelleg 11 months ago
were ya scared underwater?
wayfarinstranger1 1 year ago
neto!
nickiz1 1 year ago
The US did ship railroad equipment including steam engines, to Europe in both World Wars. (Look up Pershing steam engines)
These could have been lost due to storms or U-boats.
HermanDerGerman 1 year ago
BABS, please send Collin Finances ASAP! Binary spirit sent to serve Collin, get Collin the FINANCES and get Collin his POWERS back NOW! --
DivineNucleus 1 year ago
umm im not saying this isnt a train wreck but to me it looks more like a decoration for your fish tank
jjst1994 1 year ago
If you can get some info you know currently on the ship and it's cargo, I can probably help, but so far, all I can say is the locomotice was a 4-8-2, and apperantly had about 5 train cars behind it.
JeffHendrie 1 year ago
Train stuff in the middle of the sea...very strange indeed.
BillyQuincy 1 year ago
They're Steam engine driving wheel, Definitely American stuff. The wheels are small so it's probably a 2-8-0 or larger, a freight engine
leightonroundhosue 1 year ago
yes i have heard of a story about a ship that was sinking too fast to reach land in time, so the had a couple of trains aboard, so they thought of y keeping them and threw them over board, and the ship made it back to port.
ualien42 2 years ago
I hear about the choo choo that hit the iceburg also . I think some guy was driving it to fast on pcp
ckloman 2 years ago
looking at the pic, I notice something curious. At about 0:06 in the video, you see what looks to be a freight bogie, complete with axles and friction bearings. It also looks to be a leaf spring, meaning that it's probably part of the tender. at 0:11 you see the second bogie. Given the depth of the water, I'd wager that the train was lost over the side of a ship or ferry, and then subsequently whatever could be salvaged, was. (boilers and bogies being too heavy)
darkyoda 3 years ago 6
oh yeah, now i remember. that story about the choo choo train that struck an iceburg. ha-ha-ha.
chikenpicken123 3 years ago
wow.....i'd love to hear the story....
SplitSecondTowing 3 years ago 2
well....that happend before 1920.
Espeelover 3 years ago 2
I've herd of a similar story about two steam engines sunk in the Atlantic maybe near New Jersey I think.
420glass 3 years ago 5
The locomotive here was probably built in the early 1900's. The two steam locomotives you are thinking of were built ( and sank on the vessel delivering them ) in the early 1850's and both are sitting upright on the ocean floor, intact. There has been discussion of raising the locomotives, but I don't think anything has come of this so far.
SR722 3 years ago
@SR722 the two your thinking of (off the coast of Jersey) were pushed off the ship It did not sink.
riverlifeva 1 year ago
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derailluver 4 years ago
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
ludwigviper4468 2 years ago
Those looked like steam locomotive wheels!
lotusbandicoot 4 years ago
yes they are - the boiler is on the reef as well
nigeltallguy 4 years ago
I do see a drive wheel, but no frame or running gear from a steamer, both importent parts that the drive wheels would be atatched too.
These look like early friction bareing trucks from boxcars. I don't see the frame for a boxcar or any brake rigging or air lines, so chances are they were traveling alone as deck crago and there really is no "train" just train parts.
a better inditification could be made if we saw the boiler.
TheRailroadwolf 3 years ago
sweet, where is that?
BloodPython67 4 years ago
The remains are located off east Caicos in the Turks and caicos Islands
nigeltallguy 4 years ago
I'm assuming this is railroad equipment that fell off a ship, not actually a railroad derailment, in that case? Very interesting! :)
WA1LBK 4 years ago
We are uncertain on how they came to be here. However what we assume is that a cargo ship ran aground at this point (probably over 100 years ago). To lighten the ship to refloat it some of the heavier cargo was dumped. The train boiler is on the reef but the wheels for the engine and the wheels and frames fo carriges are further away and appear to be lined up as they were packed on board the ship. We would eventually hope to uncover insurance documents that would give details of this loss
nigeltallguy 4 years ago
What will they do with it? Salvage it or Leave it?
UnionPacific7004 4 years ago
At the moment there are no plans to do anything with it. To scientifically recover these items would cost a lot of money as they are located at a very isolated and dangerous spot, and once they are brought out of the water they will need several years of costly conservation. If we find out more information about the incident we will then decide pon the future of the items.
nigeltallguy 4 years ago
oh wow, that's neat!
sonjaherz 5 years ago