Tony Tucker said in a 1995 interview in source magazine(Around the time Tyson was getting out of jail)that Tyson at this time had everyone step there game up. He said that what people didnt realize was what a very good boxer Tyson was. At the time people always focused on his power. When it was really his constant pressure, elusiveness, and not being able to hit him with a solid shot that wore you down mentally. It was very interesting what Tucker said from a fighters point of view.
Tucker was tough. He was a little more aggressive he might have won. I think this how the Buster Douglas/Tyson fight would have looked if this version of Tyson showed up. Tyson fought and defeated a lot of champions. Even though they weren't viewed as great fighters, he still fought and beat a lot of tough guys. Can't take it away from him, Tyson was a great fighter.
@mmcneil777 Tucker was the best fighter Tyson ever beat, IMHO. Better than Razor Ruddock, as I have read. I think Tucker got caught up in drugs after this fight. This version of Tucker would have beat a lot of ass in the heavyweight division. Mike Tyson was so feared at this time and this version of Tyson would have been tough for anyone.
@sinusbradycardia good call even thou tucker was beaten tyson could not knock him down and failed in my opinon to hit any real banging combo if tyson fort holyfield on this day he may of won
@allyroxy1 I think the Tyson under Kevin that trained him in the peek a boo style form 85/88 would have an easy night with holyfield. The Tyson after jail under Don King was a regular fighter. Nothing like the constant moving, elusive, hard to hit, counter puncher that hit you with 6 to 7 combos behind a hard stiff jab. Just watch the Briggs, Thomson, Holmes, and Spinks fight vs the fights after Frank Bruno and you will see the see the different in skills
Tucker`s height and reach kept him alive, It`s hard for Tyson at 5`10 to land a clean and effective headshot on Tucker who towers over him at 6`6.. That`s the same reason Mitch Greene was able to survive with Tyson also.. It would be like a guy 4`11 trying to land a punch on average size man like 5`9
@Goldenchild795 Tyson's has height has been measured by numerous different sources and all say he is 5'11.5" and Tucker was 6'4.5" or 6'5". Not what you listed. No need to exaggerate. Tyson's didn't matter as much, he ducked so low he might as well have been 5'6". You noticed he was able to jab Tucker, because as Tyson said jabbing is all about timing. Saying you could be 5'6" and out jab a guy who is 6'5".
@Darkstalker0000 Prime Mike can't KO Tucker here,but U think he would KO Ali? You'd be better to base your opinion on Ali &Tyson's records: Tyson was KOd in his prime, Ali never was, even tho Liston,Foreman &Shavers who all are ranked as heavier hitters than Mike tried &failed,plus Ali KOd or TKOd Frazier & Foreman 1x &Liston 2Xs. Judging from their histories, Ali is far more likely to Knock Tyson out. Also, Ali's beat all the top opponents he faced,Tyson's lost to all the best he fought. W-Ali
@MrPerryrice Your not putting your argument in context. Any fighter in there prime will have a night they cant KO a fighter Tyson got KO when he wasent with Kevin. Tyson was trained in the unique peek a boo style. Which made him almost impossible to hit. From 85/88 Tyson would beat any fighter in history. Unlike slow moving, slow hitting Foremen Tyson had fast explosive power in both hands. When he knock you down you stayed down. Foremen hit Frazier and he got up 7 times! Edge Tyson.
@b7r7u7c7e Mike had many nights he couldn't KO 2nd tier fighters in his prime 1986-1991, including Tillis,Mitch Green,Bonecrusher Smith,Tony Tucker,Buster Douglas & 2nd Don Ruddock fight.His early wins- due to low competition;his failures later- all due to better quality opponents,not the absence of Kevin.Tyson is no Frazier,Joe gets up,but Tyson stayed down. Even George got off the canvass to win fights,not Mike. George would survive as others did, eventually hit him,back him up& bang him down.
@mgrealdeals He most certainly was . He fought this fight with a broken right hand which he had before the fight . Didn't tell his corner , just got on with it . Respect.
@andrewSfix25 Ruddock? Hey, I'm impressed with Liston,Ali,Frazier,Foreman,Holmes,Tyson,Holyfield,&Lennox. I'm not impressed by the people they beat up. Ruddock might be a very good boxer, but the best ones impress me, the ass kicking fighting Champions who suffered and won their belts by beating someone in the ring to get it.They deserve to be separated from the second tier guys who did not do this. They can't be lumped togerher just cause all of them are very good.The best stand Alone! Right?
@RobotechMacrossGame LOL, Ali was able to take a massive amont of Formans punches without even a blood nose and the head was not snapping back much either. Both those facts tell the true story of the power delivery.
@SuperMangn Ali took barely any of foremans punches to the head. Maybe 5 in the total fight. And when they landed his head sure as hell did snap back violently.
Love how Tony kissed Mike as if to say..."I know you kicked my ass, but I'm just so happy you didn't knock me out"!!! I made it mom, take a picture! I'm still alive!
i don't know why this doesn't silence the people that say he couldn't win if he didn't KO in the first round.. wtf do you call this? he still looks quick in the 12th..
@basehead617 : Not being able to win in later rounds wasn't something Tyson had to do often, but he proved that he could. The problem Tyson had was that his trainers never gave him a 'Plan B' to go to when 'Plan A' doesn't work. In all the fights he lost you can see that his opponent was able to endure his best attacks one way or another and stand up to him. Had he of been trained as a 'boxer' and not a 'fighter' he would have won some of those fights.
@basehead617 Beating a Tony Tucker even in the late rounds does not silence us because (1) Tucker is nowhere near the best heavyweight of Tyson's generation, it was a tough fight, but Mike was never behind, was always able to hit Tucker, so was never discouraged, so it's not impressive that Mike could keep going, because it's easier to keep going and have energy when he's was winning the fight. and (2) He's never been able to do it against the BEST HEAVYWEIGHTS he faced of his generation.
@MrPerryrice this was a unification fight,Tucker himself was undefeated a champion and a title holder in this fight,THAT makes him one of the best HW of that era,remember that..
@onlyjoetee A title holder in this fight? This Tucker never, ever won a title. You do know that don't you? It was given to him. Then he set a serious heavyweight boxing record...the shortest reign of any heavyweight champion-2 months! He was given the title, 2 months later he lost it; never even smelled the title again. Please do not mention this guy's gifted title with the earned titleholders of real fighting champions who actually fought for it, and deserved it. Champions win it in the ring!
@MrPerryrice you can SEE with your two eyes in this fight,that Tony Tucker was technically a very good boxer,fucking Stevie wonder could see it!!!!!!!!!!!Remember,this was the time when most people could not last 6mins with Tyson.Tucker WAS one of the top HW of that era,to deny that is simply stupid!!!!!!!
@onlyjoetee Right, technically a very good boxer is right; but to be named as one of the best of his era? 80s and 90s? Hell no; not one of the tops with Tyson, Holifield, Lennox, Larry Holmes, Riddick Bowe, Cooney, and others around; A top heavy is in the top 5, Tucker don't even make the top 10 of his era. Stevie Wonder is blind, he can't see shyt. Neither can you. Tuckers fight with Tyson proved Tyson wasn't all that great when a dude wasn't scared the death of him. Learn boxing, then talk.
@MrPerryrice scared or not,you still have to fight him.This guy went 12rnds with Iron Mike tyson IN HIS PRIME!!not many fighters did!this guy was a title holder and was undefeated,and you are here to diminish him,perhaps its you who needs to learn boxing.How many seconds would YOU have lasted with this era Tyson!!get the fuck outta my face man!!
@onlyjoetee Take it easy; I couldn't last very long against Tyson, I couldn't do what Tucker did (which is admirable) because I'm not a fighter. It's not about me, it's about discussing fighters.I'm not diminishing Tucker one bit, he was a very good fighter, even fought Mike with a broken hand! But he is not in the top 5 of his era because the others who I named were. To diminsh his accomplishments I would have to lie on him, which I have not and will not do. I spoke only the truth.
@MrPerryrice what was Tony Tuckers ranking at the time he fought Mike Tyson???The man came into the ring with an undefeated record and a title for goodness sake!what was his ranking here??He had to be number one with his organization,which means he was definitely top 5 with the others!!
@onlyjoetee Many boxers come into the ring with undefeated records at the beginning of their careers, proves nothing until they start meeting the best fighters, then they prove themselves.To be tops you have to beat the tops, and Tucker didn't beat any of the top 5 of his generation, so he's not a top fighter. Why mention his unearned title when Tyson had the other 2? Tucker didn't fight anybody to get it did he? He didn't even defend it 1 time successfully. Sorry,Tucker is 2nd tier. No more.
@MrPerryrice well,this 2nd tier fighter,was able to take Iron Mike Tyson 12 rounds in his absolute prime,frustrate him,give him one of the hardest nights of his life and finish without a scratch on his face,at a time when most people did not last 3 mins with Iron Mike.Not bad for a 2nd Tier fighter...
@onlyjoetee Yes sir, I absolutely agree: not bad for a second tier fighter. Also, let me open a new can of worms: Tyson, just like Tucker, lost when he finally ran into the top heavies of this generation too. Proven fact: the beginning of a fighters career is not his true measure, what he does when he graduates to the inevitable best opponents is how he gets measured. Tyson never beat anybody great either. They all beat him (unless you count Mike Spinks who was a light heavy & old Larry Holmes.
@MrPerryrice you can SEE in this fight,that Tony Tucker was a very good boxer,the way he's handling Tyson,considering what stage of Tysons career this was.Mike Tyson between 85 & 89 was the best on earth,he beat everybody there was to beat,unified all the belts,and thats all you can do!Boxing is the sport of excuses Spinks was no 1 contender,Larry Holmes was 38 which is younger than Vitali Klitchko is now!!
@onlyjoetee You're right, I see that Tucker is a very good boxer, and I was impressed with his standing up to Mike; and I agree Mike was best on earth 85-89. We agree on that. But we still disagree if you think it doesen't make a difference if Spinks is a light heavy stepping up to fight the most ferocious heavy, and if Holmes was past his prime & fresh out of retirement. Fighters are different, some wash up early, some later. Larry was not the same by the time he met Mike. Weight & Age matters.
@MrPerryrice Mike Tyson was the best HW of the 80s,NO doubt!he had a whole era,not many fighters can claim an entire era,he will rank in any list as one of the greatest HW ever!The 90s belonged to Lennox Lewis & Holyfield,it is natural that the new King ends the reign of the old,just as Tyson closed Holmes,who closed Ali,who closed Liston etc Lewis & Holyfield also closed Tyson.But Tysons greatness cannot be denied,between 85 & 89 he WAS the Best!!
@onlyjoetee Gotta say, I'm a Tyson fan, I always root for him, but a top ten of all time? No sir, not on everybody's list. If Tucker with a broken hand could box Tyson decently, then the boxers better than Tucker could have beaten Tyson (maybe Tucker if his hand wasn't broke could have done it), On the lists I've seen Tyson doesn't make top 10, where Joe Louis, Ali, Liston, Foreman, etc dominate.Look up any Boxing authority's top 10 list. Mike don't make it. He's 14 on ring's list.
@MrPerryrice Tony Tucker was a very very good old school style boxer from Michigan where boxings best come from,he knew all the tricks in the book,he was very well school in the sweet science,trust.He knew how to frustrate,how to stop you from fighting,Michigan fighters specialize in that.Fuck lists man,Mike Tyson was the best HW of the 80s,he had an entire ERA!how many fighters can say that?
@onlyjoetee Yes, but does Tucker stand equal with the best of his generation,Tyson, Lennox, Holyfield, Holmes? The great champions that he never beat? Of course not, to claim so is to diminish them. He is not top of the class like them. The fighting champions that whupped ass as champions stand alone-Tucker is not one of them. Face it. You said Tyson ranked as one of the greatest on anyone's list, when you see he does not, now you switch up and say "Fuck lists man??? Why'd U bring up the lists?
@MrPerryrice The guys Tyson fought were very good fighters,see people forget that now!Berbick,Rudduck,TNT Tubbs,Tucker,Bonecrusher Smith,Spinks,Tyrell Biggs,Pinklon Thomas,Bruno,Mitch green,Quick Tillis,Carl the truth williams,etc etc These were the best Top ranking HW contenders of that time!people forget that!!
@onlyjoetee See? I knew we could get along! That list of fighters you just named that Tyson beat-all are great TOP CONTENDERS; I agree wholeheartedly! Tyson beat them all; but do not call them the top heavies of their era, because the top contenders that stepped up another notch and became great champions kicking ass while champion are the only TOP HWs; others are second tier. Notice too, how Tyson only beat second tiers? Cannot be ignored.
@MrPerryrice its very very easy to dismiss the achievements of any truly great fighter see,thats why Roy jones made that song,Y'all musta forgot!because they forget so easily,what it took for that man to get where he got and to stay there in his time!dont make that mistake reading some silly list made by some fool who dont know shit!!I remember Tysons ERA man,just the sheer aura he had alone,could throw 4punches a second,devastating power,speed,defense,trained by the great cud damato himself!man
@onlyjoetee Not me; I always defend the achievements of the truly greats and insist they get their due by separating them from the second tiers. Roy Jones! Oh my God! One of the greatest ever! Period. He beat the shit outta champions to get all his titles. Tyson never did what Roy Jones did. and Tucker definitely is out of the question. Plus I'm not going by other people's lists, I'm going by who beat who in the ring, period. I mentioned lists only cause you said Tyson was on everybodys list.
@MrPerryrice Mike Tyson beat every significant HW of HIS,HIS era,and unified the belts,thats all you can do,what do you want him to do?build a time machine and go back to fight Joe Louis,dont be ridiculous man.Tyson was the best,most dominant most signicant HW of the 80s with belts to prove it,thats all!!
@onlyjoetee OK, OK, once again we can agree that if you limit Mike's era to his fights of the 1980s only, and ignore his career (loses)in the 1990s and 2000s, then yes I agree wholeheartedly, that just as you say, Mike was and always will be exactly what he earned in the ring, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT OF THE 1980S! And his 80s record proves it. There; you pried it out of me; can we get along now? (You keep your foot on my neck, don't you?)
@MrPerryrice hahahaha just give the man his dues thats all,Lord knows he earned it.The departure of Larry Holmes,left a vacum in the HW division,that no one had the talent,aura or starpower to fill till michael gerard Tyson destroyed Trevor Berbick,and from then on,till he ran into Holyfield and Lewis,Tyson single handedly lit up the HW division and boxing in general like a fireball,and no one can ever take that away from him,ever!oh yes,he was great alright,and history cannot deny him his place
@onlyjoetee OK, damn! Get off my neck, will you? Mike Tyson was without question, a great fighting, ass whupping, ferocious, fearsome, menacing destroyer of a HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION without peer in his era. And yes, Lord knows, and I know he earned it. OK, now? Now that you got your way, can we move on? Name your top 5 heavies of all Time.
@onlyjoetee I'm addressing your post below bout Johnson &Frazier: 1st) going 40 rounds in the olden days dont mean Johnson could beat Ali or any other great champion in 15; that's folklore. 2nd) Liston returned kicking ass after Ali's exile &Frazier ducked him & Shavers in the 60s B4 this eye injury excuse you gave about him being 31;he retired because he couldn't beat Ali,Foreman,Holmes,Norton,or Shavers either. Eye/no eye, Joe's skill level was surpassed by all the 70s big boy contenders.
@MrPerryric 1 Muhammed Ali 2 Jack Johnson 3 Joe Louis 4 Larry Holmes 5 Lennox Lewis 6 Evander Holyfield 7 Rocky Marciano 8 Mike Tyson 9 Vitali Klitchko 10 George Foreman 11 Vladimir Klitchko 12 Joe Frazier 13 sonny liston 14 Jack Dempsey 15 Jersey Joe Walcott 16 Floyd Patterson That should do.....
@onlyjoetee The fight films I've seen of Jack Johnson don't reveal enough for me to objectively rank him, the films don't show him moving all that great to me. I think he was the best in his time but would have a hella time with the big names from the 50s up to now. Frazier, I believe is over rated because he (1) gave Ali hell in 71 & 75, & (2) he for some mysterious reason managed (Foreman aside) to not fight the biggest bangers of 60's and 70's, Liston, Ernie Shavers, Norton and a few others.
@MrPerryrice Jack Johnson could beat any boxer alive in his time,was way ahead scientifically and defensively,fought 30 & 40 rnds,lived a life in a time that for a man like him required some super human fearlessness that most humans do not posess,and is reveared by every HW since!If you wanna know if Joe Frazier was overated,go ask Ali,he'll tell you...
@onlyjoetee Look you, I know all that stuff about Johnson ahead in his era, etc; but could he beat the best of the last 50 or so years? It's not enough evidence revealed in the measly films to positively conclude how he would do against the great ones that came after, at least we have decent films of them to make an assessment by. You cannot even tell how fast Jack was by comparison. No, I'd rather ask the bangers who Joe avoided how over rated Frazier is. I bet Johnson would beat Frazier.
@MrPerryrice Oh theres plenty of evidence,if you know how to judge and determine boxing skill,He was very very quick,could literally catch punches in the air,was almost impossible to hit,how many HW in the last 50yrs would be able to fight 40rnds in one night?Joe Frazier retired from boxing at 31 due to serious retinal damage,he didnt avoid anybody,he went 45rnd with the most dynamic HW ever and left plenty of damage on him,which these "heavies" didnt,you wanna know how good frazier was ask Ali
@onlyjoetee Look, I'm getting tired of you, don't make me get that djk kid on you! Seriously though, how can you look at that clickety clankety film with all the missing frames and judge how fast the man was moving compared to Ali? Or Tyson? Hey, look at Johnson's old footage, and tell me, who was faster, him or Tyson? Does the film show that he was faster or less fast than Ali? What about the film indicates these details? I mean, exactly what do you look at to measure Johnson's speed?
@onlyjoetee Will you please shut up...Your stupidity is annoying as hell...Buster spanked your little boy and was 5 or so years older so shut up asswipe....Do not bring up that prime shit because Buster was older and past his prime...He simply schooled your little boy....FUCKWAD
@djk28161 PARDON?i think you are addressing someother post.I havent mentioned Buster or any Prime,what are you talking about???you're clearly having a lot of problems,its ok i forgive you
@onlyjoetee Ha ha ha! Now it looks like somebody is on your neck (djk28161); ha ha; get'em like you got me; don't back down. LOL. I see Tyson managed to make your top 10. You know, if he managed to beat Holyfield or Lennox he'd make my list too. Why do you pick one handed punching bag face Frazier over Liston? Clearly Fraziers built for Sonny Liston to knock his easily hit head off just as George did; check out Liston's fights sans Ali, the man was a bear for real.
@MrPerryrice Joe Frazier went 45 rnd with Ali staggered him around like a drunken sailor knocked him down and gave him bleeding kidneys for months,Sonny Liston barely laid a glove on him in 2 fights!George Foreman knocked Joe down 7 times and Joe STILL got up after every single one!!!Nobody is on my neck,at all,think that person answered some other post,i never used the words Buster or Prime!and he's clearly got some mental and emotional issues,i feel sorry for him
@onlyjoetee Yeah, after the layoff & Ali had 2 rush tune ups against the likes of Quarry(who he looked terrible against,& Bonevena,who he also looked terrible against),& Frazier never won again, Ali damn near killed him in fights 1 & 3, TKOed him in 3; & Frazier almost got knocked out in 2 & couldn't lay a glove on him in 2. Besides, Liston's prime was mostly 1950s; easy to hit Frazier wouldve been slaughtered by Liston just as Liston's pupil Foreman slaughtered him.Joe ducked 2 many big guns.
@MrPerryrice fuck that man,Ali put both Quarry and Bonavena away convincingly,Ali damn near killed nothing,almost ko nothing,Ali coulnt KO Frazier if he fought him 100 times,go listen to what Ali said about Frazier in the Press conference after Manilla,ask if hes overrated?are you mad?Foreman dropped him so what?he got back up every time!!he didnt duck anybody he retired!!
@onlyjoetee Don't judge fights on stuff said outside the ring,what happened inside counts;We know Ali left the hospital in a few hours; Frazier's mishappen face and head kept him hospitalized for WEEKS! His pressure,kidneys,every damn thing on him malfunctioned,he almost died.Look it up! In 2nd fight, rnd 2, he ran into Ali's right,his knees buckled,he staggered back,& Ali chased him firing,Frazier ran, the ref thought the bell rang & saved him;Ali beat his eye out /TKO/ retired him in Manilla.
@MrPerryrice Joe Frazier fought his whole entire career basically with just one eye,even going way back to the olympics,which is astonishing,today he wouldnt even get a licence.You keep talking about Liston,he coulnt even touch Ali,Joe damn sure did more than that,ruptured kidneys,urinating blood for months!
@onlyjoetee More excuses!Save them.Ali had bruised not ruptured kidney.Post Frazier's damages after 1.Go ahead,how long was Frazier's hospital stay?Ali's? Post it. Post what Ali did to his face and head, post how every ailment under the sun kept Joe hospitalized for weeks. Post it. Why this lopsided stuff? You know nobody damaged Frazier as Ali did. Foreman just knocked him down; he had no telling damage. Ali hospitalized, disfigured, beat his eyes out, TKO'ed and retired his ass 2 fights to 1.
@MrPerryrice Muhammed Ali was the best HW ever,we're all agreed on that,right?So?who was his toughest ever opponent,even by his own admission?not Liston,not Foreman,not Shavers,not Norton,WHO?JOE FRAZIER!!on THAT basis alone,Joe Frazier HAD to be something else...i rest my case....
@onlyjoetee Foreman could have been a real opponent to Ali... And if it have been possible, Tyson against Ali would have been very interesting to see...
@MrPerryrice if this guy was the best,and i shook him harder than the rest,even by HIS OWN admission,then what does that make me?.........case closed,your honour........
@onlyjoetee styles make fights. Yeah sure he gave ali all he could handle but did you see frazier against foreman? He beat him easily. It's all about whos style suits who the best.
@stuntmanjeff423 No, Tyson don't loose big fights by decision, he gets knocked the hell out. His record shows that. Plus Tucker broke his hand early in this fight & still dealt with Tyson with one damn hand.& yeah, Ali would tie Tyson up everytime Tyson got anywhere near him, & beat Tysons ass the rest of the fight. And Mike wouldn't be able to do anything about it except fold, like he always has against the top heavies and champions of his generation.How can he beat the GOAT? In his dreams!
@vgr112261 And you base that on what, exactly? If you believe Tucker and Ali are similar style fighters, did Tyson not completely and totally dominate the Tucker fight? Forget the KO because, believe it or not, Tyson could win matches on decisions. Tyson dominated, Tucker ran and held for much of the fight, and if Tucker decided to get brave and slug it out, he got nailed with bombs. Based off of this fight, your comments mean nothing.
@ph1484 : Tyson's stature is similar to Joe Fraizer who obviously gave Ali the most trouble in his career. However with Ali's speed, his long jab, and strong chin I still think Ali wins simply because Tyson's trainers taught him how to fight and not how to box. If Tyson were to beat Ali it would have to be early.
@D2Kprime Ali was from an era that boxers did not train as much as Tyson and some of his rivals. Just look at Brunos ripped and cut body in their fight, Ali never had any boxer in the ring with him with that type of conditioning...
@SuperMangn : I disagree. Big muscles have nothing to do with conditioning. Big muscles just mean big muscles. LEAN muscle is a sign of good conditioning which is what Ali had. I would take any prime fighter in Ali's era over a prime Frank Bruno in terms of conditioning any day of the week. Those guys trained to be able to go 15 rounds per fight. As far as guys Ali fought that were ripped, Ken Norton and George Foreman come to mind.
@ph1484 : Tyson's stature is similar to Joe Fraizer who obviously gave Ali the most trouble in his career. However with Ali's speed, his long jab, and strong chin I still think Ali wins simply because Tyson's trainers taught him how to fight and not how to box. If Tyson were to beat Ali it would have to be early.
I look out the window and this stupid hurricane is raking us and wish you speak just a word to me. speak to me. I need the one that is greater than me. No one has demolished me as you have; pleaese speak. I submit. Totally submit. You are the greatest. Speak to me. Boo Wooo Whoo! Where are you?
@MrPerryrice: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH I dropped so many clues for you, so many hints but you STILL don't see that it was me the whole time??????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOW STUPID ARE YOU????????? HAHAHAHAHAHA
I laugh SO hard everytime you say "all 5 of you", hahahah, because there is only me!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA. ANd you said you would leave 3 times already, why aren't you leaving? Can't get over the fact that you were PLAYED? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@JamesWilliamsDallas How would I know such a thing? I don't have a crystal ball. Stop talking foolish in desperation. I smashed all 5 of you, and detected your little secret.
@MrPerryrice: HAHAHAHAHAHA still in denial? Kid, you still have lots to learn. I hope you learned your lesson here with the FATHER of lies here, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ok, I'm leaving now but any time you wanna become my protege feel free to PM me. Peace.
HAHAHAHHHAAHHAHAHAH I bet the people looking at this are all talking about how stupid this kid is HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA to believe me HAHAHAH I dropped so many little clues and signs and hints but he's so damn STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HHAHAHAHAHAa
@MrPerryrice: HOLY FUCK HAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE STILL IN DENIAL?????????????? You were PLAYED man, PLAYED by the greatest player of all time- ME!!!!!!!
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@MrPerryrice: Still don't believe me? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you just look like a hurt and confused little retard in denial right now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ok, believe what you will. But HAHAHAHAHAHA that was fun.
@MrPerryrice: The more you deny it the more I laugh my ass off. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@MrPerryrice: FOOL!!!!!!!!!!! It was me the whole time. It was just you vs me the whole time. The other 5 accounts are imaginary account created by me so i can have a little fun with a little troll like you. And you thought we were separate people! HAHAHAHAHA, what a RETARD!!!! You can choose not to believe it, but I'm telling you, you were played like an ant in my palm. And you're STILL in denial? HAHAHAHA
I'm the greatest trickster that ever lived. Be my student and learn from me.
@MrPerryrice: The secret is that @wenpire, @jacksonwenpire, @Thurmanraj, @49kdonggyu94, and me @JamesWilliamsDallas are in fact ONE person- me. LMFAO, I played you like a cat playing a mentally-retarded mouse. Took you WAY too long to catch on, retarded troll. You really thought we were different people? LMFAO. what a dumb ass you are. It was SOO fun to confuse a troll like you. SOOO fun. Never had so much fun in my life. Now I am leaving for good knowing that you were fooled and OWNED.
@JamesWilliamsDallas No way: I'd be stupidier than the 5 of you combined if I believe you were anything but 5 roomates, a bit too close, but not that close! Nice try. I smashed you all, and this is all you nutcases can come up with? Later for you roomates! Fool somebody else, you can not fool me. All of you are roomates. And easy. And I smashed you all to desperate measures. You cannot save face with this lie. Roomates Forever, is what you all are. HA ha ha. Goodbye foulmouthed ones!
@JamesWilliamsDallas You promise for the last time, not to cross me? I've got feelings too you know? Then I'll say yes cause I'm anxious to know your secret. Is there more than one?
@JamesWilliamsDallas Don't play man. If your moms is passed for real, I did not know; and if she is not passed, you should not have said so just for kicks. Tell me the truth. No jokes. No tricks. Your word, ok? What is the truth?
@MrPeryrice: What language are you talking in? Gibberish? Nobody even understands what the fuck you're saying anymore. You're living in your own ass brother.
@49kdonggyu94 And if you all can't understand it anymore it's only because I kicked you alls brains out on here. Thanks, dumbass for admitting that too. You just keep helping me make my points, don't you?
I never told you my price; well here it is, an easy price too:
"Every head must bow, every mouth must confess, that this man here (Ali) is the greatest of all time."
Say that as Mike Tyson said it, as I say it, and as the majority of fight professionals say it, and then I will leave your little House for good. Deal? Will you confess Ali is the greatest? If so, upon my word and honor, I will never comment on this site again. My word.
When dumb wet shit bobble head boxer shake their head they are announcing that it hurt...
hoyfanofboulder 4 hours ago
Tony Tucker said in a 1995 interview in source magazine(Around the time Tyson was getting out of jail)that Tyson at this time had everyone step there game up. He said that what people didnt realize was what a very good boxer Tyson was. At the time people always focused on his power. When it was really his constant pressure, elusiveness, and not being able to hit him with a solid shot that wore you down mentally. It was very interesting what Tucker said from a fighters point of view.
b7r7u7c7e 6 hours ago
Tony Tucker's huge...
truebeliever786 1 day ago
2:59 big hand
dinomagic 6 days ago
Tucker fought like he didn't want to fight
JoeyPencils 1 week ago
Tony Tucker kinda reminds me of that dude in'coming to America' that 'soulglow'guy!!XD
ferryvanextel 2 weeks ago
@ferryvanextel JUST PUT THAT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUULLLLLLLLLL GLOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Atrisk351 3 days ago
Im impressed with Tony Tucker...he done well
MrGoldfish1984 4 weeks ago 2
At 2:20 See Tony Tucker actualy PLAY with an undefeated prime Mike Tyson ? Loooool
That was a brave thing to do considering Tucker was no Muhammad Ali, the greatest !
truthhitmanisback 1 month ago
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truthhitmanisback 1 month ago
tyson the greatest besides Ali of course me ole sausage
curryharrycurry 1 month ago
@curryharrycurry nah...her would have dry fucked ali in his prime.
MrGoldfish1984 4 weeks ago
Tucker was tough. He was a little more aggressive he might have won. I think this how the Buster Douglas/Tyson fight would have looked if this version of Tyson showed up. Tyson fought and defeated a lot of champions. Even though they weren't viewed as great fighters, he still fought and beat a lot of tough guys. Can't take it away from him, Tyson was a great fighter.
mmcneil777 1 month ago
@mmcneil777 Tucker was the best fighter Tyson ever beat, IMHO. Better than Razor Ruddock, as I have read. I think Tucker got caught up in drugs after this fight. This version of Tucker would have beat a lot of ass in the heavyweight division. Mike Tyson was so feared at this time and this version of Tyson would have been tough for anyone.
sinusbradycardia 1 month ago
@sinusbradycardia good call even thou tucker was beaten tyson could not knock him down and failed in my opinon to hit any real banging combo if tyson fort holyfield on this day he may of won
allyroxy1 3 weeks ago
@allyroxy1 I think the Tyson under Kevin that trained him in the peek a boo style form 85/88 would have an easy night with holyfield. The Tyson after jail under Don King was a regular fighter. Nothing like the constant moving, elusive, hard to hit, counter puncher that hit you with 6 to 7 combos behind a hard stiff jab. Just watch the Briggs, Thomson, Holmes, and Spinks fight vs the fights after Frank Bruno and you will see the see the different in skills
b7r7u7c7e 6 hours ago
Tucker`s height and reach kept him alive, It`s hard for Tyson at 5`10 to land a clean and effective headshot on Tucker who towers over him at 6`6.. That`s the same reason Mitch Greene was able to survive with Tyson also.. It would be like a guy 4`11 trying to land a punch on average size man like 5`9
Goldenchild795 2 months ago
@Goldenchild795 Tyson's has height has been measured by numerous different sources and all say he is 5'11.5" and Tucker was 6'4.5" or 6'5". Not what you listed. No need to exaggerate. Tyson's didn't matter as much, he ducked so low he might as well have been 5'6". You noticed he was able to jab Tucker, because as Tyson said jabbing is all about timing. Saying you could be 5'6" and out jab a guy who is 6'5".
sinusbradycardia 1 month ago
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Goldenchild795 2 months ago
what heavyweight now a day can last 12 rounds and be as active as these two? Not even in the lower classes do I see this athleticism
acatl33 2 months ago 9
@acatl33 Chisora against Klitschko
Darksp00n 2 days ago
Mike best ever hw... Ali and Tyson in prime? Mike wins by ko he was most agressive brutal and fastest boxer in hw end.
Darkstalker0000 2 months ago
@Darkstalker0000 Prime Mike can't KO Tucker here,but U think he would KO Ali? You'd be better to base your opinion on Ali &Tyson's records: Tyson was KOd in his prime, Ali never was, even tho Liston,Foreman &Shavers who all are ranked as heavier hitters than Mike tried &failed,plus Ali KOd or TKOd Frazier & Foreman 1x &Liston 2Xs. Judging from their histories, Ali is far more likely to Knock Tyson out. Also, Ali's beat all the top opponents he faced,Tyson's lost to all the best he fought. W-Ali
MrPerryrice 2 weeks ago
@MrPerryrice Your not putting your argument in context. Any fighter in there prime will have a night they cant KO a fighter Tyson got KO when he wasent with Kevin. Tyson was trained in the unique peek a boo style. Which made him almost impossible to hit. From 85/88 Tyson would beat any fighter in history. Unlike slow moving, slow hitting Foremen Tyson had fast explosive power in both hands. When he knock you down you stayed down. Foremen hit Frazier and he got up 7 times! Edge Tyson.
b7r7u7c7e 7 hours ago
@b7r7u7c7e Mike had many nights he couldn't KO 2nd tier fighters in his prime 1986-1991, including Tillis,Mitch Green,Bonecrusher Smith,Tony Tucker,Buster Douglas & 2nd Don Ruddock fight.His early wins- due to low competition;his failures later- all due to better quality opponents,not the absence of Kevin.Tyson is no Frazier,Joe gets up,but Tyson stayed down. Even George got off the canvass to win fights,not Mike. George would survive as others did, eventually hit him,back him up& bang him down.
MrPerryrice 3 hours ago
Daamn at 2:54 mike hit the poor guy so hard he pulverized his jaw into dust!!!!!
uchia001 3 months ago
Tony Tucker was a hell of a Fighter.
mgrealdeals 3 months ago 8
@mgrealdeals He most certainly was . He fought this fight with a broken right hand which he had before the fight . Didn't tell his corner , just got on with it . Respect.
thehitchrules 1 month ago
tyson have an iron chin he is eating some hard punches and he keeps coming
hmdhmd8 3 months ago
@andrewSfix25 Ruddock? Hey, I'm impressed with Liston,Ali,Frazier,Foreman,Holmes,Tyson,Holyfield,&Lennox. I'm not impressed by the people they beat up. Ruddock might be a very good boxer, but the best ones impress me, the ass kicking fighting Champions who suffered and won their belts by beating someone in the ring to get it.They deserve to be separated from the second tier guys who did not do this. They can't be lumped togerher just cause all of them are very good.The best stand Alone! Right?
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@RobotechMacrossGame LOL, Ali was able to take a massive amont of Formans punches without even a blood nose and the head was not snapping back much either. Both those facts tell the true story of the power delivery.
SuperMangn 5 months ago
@SuperMangn Ali took barely any of foremans punches to the head. Maybe 5 in the total fight. And when they landed his head sure as hell did snap back violently.
suprapower101 4 months ago
Love how Tony kissed Mike as if to say..."I know you kicked my ass, but I'm just so happy you didn't knock me out"!!! I made it mom, take a picture! I'm still alive!
capitalismforme 5 months ago
i don't know why this doesn't silence the people that say he couldn't win if he didn't KO in the first round.. wtf do you call this? he still looks quick in the 12th..
basehead617 5 months ago
@basehead617 : Not being able to win in later rounds wasn't something Tyson had to do often, but he proved that he could. The problem Tyson had was that his trainers never gave him a 'Plan B' to go to when 'Plan A' doesn't work. In all the fights he lost you can see that his opponent was able to endure his best attacks one way or another and stand up to him. Had he of been trained as a 'boxer' and not a 'fighter' he would have won some of those fights.
D2Kprime 5 months ago
@basehead617 Beating a Tony Tucker even in the late rounds does not silence us because (1) Tucker is nowhere near the best heavyweight of Tyson's generation, it was a tough fight, but Mike was never behind, was always able to hit Tucker, so was never discouraged, so it's not impressive that Mike could keep going, because it's easier to keep going and have energy when he's was winning the fight. and (2) He's never been able to do it against the BEST HEAVYWEIGHTS he faced of his generation.
MrPerryrice 5 months ago
@MrPerryrice this was a unification fight,Tucker himself was undefeated a champion and a title holder in this fight,THAT makes him one of the best HW of that era,remember that..
onlyjoetee 4 months ago in playlist Mike Tyson
@onlyjoetee A title holder in this fight? This Tucker never, ever won a title. You do know that don't you? It was given to him. Then he set a serious heavyweight boxing record...the shortest reign of any heavyweight champion-2 months! He was given the title, 2 months later he lost it; never even smelled the title again. Please do not mention this guy's gifted title with the earned titleholders of real fighting champions who actually fought for it, and deserved it. Champions win it in the ring!
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice you can SEE with your two eyes in this fight,that Tony Tucker was technically a very good boxer,fucking Stevie wonder could see it!!!!!!!!!!!Remember,this was the time when most people could not last 6mins with Tyson.Tucker WAS one of the top HW of that era,to deny that is simply stupid!!!!!!!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Right, technically a very good boxer is right; but to be named as one of the best of his era? 80s and 90s? Hell no; not one of the tops with Tyson, Holifield, Lennox, Larry Holmes, Riddick Bowe, Cooney, and others around; A top heavy is in the top 5, Tucker don't even make the top 10 of his era. Stevie Wonder is blind, he can't see shyt. Neither can you. Tuckers fight with Tyson proved Tyson wasn't all that great when a dude wasn't scared the death of him. Learn boxing, then talk.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice scared or not,you still have to fight him.This guy went 12rnds with Iron Mike tyson IN HIS PRIME!!not many fighters did!this guy was a title holder and was undefeated,and you are here to diminish him,perhaps its you who needs to learn boxing.How many seconds would YOU have lasted with this era Tyson!!get the fuck outta my face man!!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Take it easy; I couldn't last very long against Tyson, I couldn't do what Tucker did (which is admirable) because I'm not a fighter. It's not about me, it's about discussing fighters.I'm not diminishing Tucker one bit, he was a very good fighter, even fought Mike with a broken hand! But he is not in the top 5 of his era because the others who I named were. To diminsh his accomplishments I would have to lie on him, which I have not and will not do. I spoke only the truth.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice what was Tony Tuckers ranking at the time he fought Mike Tyson???The man came into the ring with an undefeated record and a title for goodness sake!what was his ranking here??He had to be number one with his organization,which means he was definitely top 5 with the others!!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Many boxers come into the ring with undefeated records at the beginning of their careers, proves nothing until they start meeting the best fighters, then they prove themselves.To be tops you have to beat the tops, and Tucker didn't beat any of the top 5 of his generation, so he's not a top fighter. Why mention his unearned title when Tyson had the other 2? Tucker didn't fight anybody to get it did he? He didn't even defend it 1 time successfully. Sorry,Tucker is 2nd tier. No more.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice well,this 2nd tier fighter,was able to take Iron Mike Tyson 12 rounds in his absolute prime,frustrate him,give him one of the hardest nights of his life and finish without a scratch on his face,at a time when most people did not last 3 mins with Iron Mike.Not bad for a 2nd Tier fighter...
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Yes sir, I absolutely agree: not bad for a second tier fighter. Also, let me open a new can of worms: Tyson, just like Tucker, lost when he finally ran into the top heavies of this generation too. Proven fact: the beginning of a fighters career is not his true measure, what he does when he graduates to the inevitable best opponents is how he gets measured. Tyson never beat anybody great either. They all beat him (unless you count Mike Spinks who was a light heavy & old Larry Holmes.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice you can SEE in this fight,that Tony Tucker was a very good boxer,the way he's handling Tyson,considering what stage of Tysons career this was.Mike Tyson between 85 & 89 was the best on earth,he beat everybody there was to beat,unified all the belts,and thats all you can do!Boxing is the sport of excuses Spinks was no 1 contender,Larry Holmes was 38 which is younger than Vitali Klitchko is now!!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee You're right, I see that Tucker is a very good boxer, and I was impressed with his standing up to Mike; and I agree Mike was best on earth 85-89. We agree on that. But we still disagree if you think it doesen't make a difference if Spinks is a light heavy stepping up to fight the most ferocious heavy, and if Holmes was past his prime & fresh out of retirement. Fighters are different, some wash up early, some later. Larry was not the same by the time he met Mike. Weight & Age matters.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Mike Tyson was the best HW of the 80s,NO doubt!he had a whole era,not many fighters can claim an entire era,he will rank in any list as one of the greatest HW ever!The 90s belonged to Lennox Lewis & Holyfield,it is natural that the new King ends the reign of the old,just as Tyson closed Holmes,who closed Ali,who closed Liston etc Lewis & Holyfield also closed Tyson.But Tysons greatness cannot be denied,between 85 & 89 he WAS the Best!!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Gotta say, I'm a Tyson fan, I always root for him, but a top ten of all time? No sir, not on everybody's list. If Tucker with a broken hand could box Tyson decently, then the boxers better than Tucker could have beaten Tyson (maybe Tucker if his hand wasn't broke could have done it), On the lists I've seen Tyson doesn't make top 10, where Joe Louis, Ali, Liston, Foreman, etc dominate.Look up any Boxing authority's top 10 list. Mike don't make it. He's 14 on ring's list.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Tony Tucker was a very very good old school style boxer from Michigan where boxings best come from,he knew all the tricks in the book,he was very well school in the sweet science,trust.He knew how to frustrate,how to stop you from fighting,Michigan fighters specialize in that.Fuck lists man,Mike Tyson was the best HW of the 80s,he had an entire ERA!how many fighters can say that?
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Yes, but does Tucker stand equal with the best of his generation,Tyson, Lennox, Holyfield, Holmes? The great champions that he never beat? Of course not, to claim so is to diminish them. He is not top of the class like them. The fighting champions that whupped ass as champions stand alone-Tucker is not one of them. Face it. You said Tyson ranked as one of the greatest on anyone's list, when you see he does not, now you switch up and say "Fuck lists man??? Why'd U bring up the lists?
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice The guys Tyson fought were very good fighters,see people forget that now!Berbick,Rudduck,TNT Tubbs,Tucker,Bonecrusher Smith,Spinks,Tyrell Biggs,Pinklon Thomas,Bruno,Mitch green,Quick Tillis,Carl the truth williams,etc etc These were the best Top ranking HW contenders of that time!people forget that!!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee See? I knew we could get along! That list of fighters you just named that Tyson beat-all are great TOP CONTENDERS; I agree wholeheartedly! Tyson beat them all; but do not call them the top heavies of their era, because the top contenders that stepped up another notch and became great champions kicking ass while champion are the only TOP HWs; others are second tier. Notice too, how Tyson only beat second tiers? Cannot be ignored.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice its very very easy to dismiss the achievements of any truly great fighter see,thats why Roy jones made that song,Y'all musta forgot!because they forget so easily,what it took for that man to get where he got and to stay there in his time!dont make that mistake reading some silly list made by some fool who dont know shit!!I remember Tysons ERA man,just the sheer aura he had alone,could throw 4punches a second,devastating power,speed,defense,trained by the great cud damato himself!man
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Not me; I always defend the achievements of the truly greats and insist they get their due by separating them from the second tiers. Roy Jones! Oh my God! One of the greatest ever! Period. He beat the shit outta champions to get all his titles. Tyson never did what Roy Jones did. and Tucker definitely is out of the question. Plus I'm not going by other people's lists, I'm going by who beat who in the ring, period. I mentioned lists only cause you said Tyson was on everybodys list.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Mike Tyson beat every significant HW of HIS,HIS era,and unified the belts,thats all you can do,what do you want him to do?build a time machine and go back to fight Joe Louis,dont be ridiculous man.Tyson was the best,most dominant most signicant HW of the 80s with belts to prove it,thats all!!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee OK, OK, once again we can agree that if you limit Mike's era to his fights of the 1980s only, and ignore his career (loses)in the 1990s and 2000s, then yes I agree wholeheartedly, that just as you say, Mike was and always will be exactly what he earned in the ring, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT OF THE 1980S! And his 80s record proves it. There; you pried it out of me; can we get along now? (You keep your foot on my neck, don't you?)
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice hahahaha just give the man his dues thats all,Lord knows he earned it.The departure of Larry Holmes,left a vacum in the HW division,that no one had the talent,aura or starpower to fill till michael gerard Tyson destroyed Trevor Berbick,and from then on,till he ran into Holyfield and Lewis,Tyson single handedly lit up the HW division and boxing in general like a fireball,and no one can ever take that away from him,ever!oh yes,he was great alright,and history cannot deny him his place
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee OK, damn! Get off my neck, will you? Mike Tyson was without question, a great fighting, ass whupping, ferocious, fearsome, menacing destroyer of a HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION without peer in his era. And yes, Lord knows, and I know he earned it. OK, now? Now that you got your way, can we move on? Name your top 5 heavies of all Time.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice LOL,oh the usual suspects,Muhammed ALi,Jack Johnson,Joe Louis,Larry Holmes,Lennox Lewis...thats mine..
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee I'm addressing your post below bout Johnson &Frazier: 1st) going 40 rounds in the olden days dont mean Johnson could beat Ali or any other great champion in 15; that's folklore. 2nd) Liston returned kicking ass after Ali's exile &Frazier ducked him & Shavers in the 60s B4 this eye injury excuse you gave about him being 31;he retired because he couldn't beat Ali,Foreman,Holmes,Norton,or Shavers either. Eye/no eye, Joe's skill level was surpassed by all the 70s big boy contenders.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee The fight films I've seen of Jack Johnson don't reveal enough for me to objectively rank him, the films don't show him moving all that great to me. I think he was the best in his time but would have a hella time with the big names from the 50s up to now. Frazier, I believe is over rated because he (1) gave Ali hell in 71 & 75, & (2) he for some mysterious reason managed (Foreman aside) to not fight the biggest bangers of 60's and 70's, Liston, Ernie Shavers, Norton and a few others.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Jack Johnson could beat any boxer alive in his time,was way ahead scientifically and defensively,fought 30 & 40 rnds,lived a life in a time that for a man like him required some super human fearlessness that most humans do not posess,and is reveared by every HW since!If you wanna know if Joe Frazier was overated,go ask Ali,he'll tell you...
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Look you, I know all that stuff about Johnson ahead in his era, etc; but could he beat the best of the last 50 or so years? It's not enough evidence revealed in the measly films to positively conclude how he would do against the great ones that came after, at least we have decent films of them to make an assessment by. You cannot even tell how fast Jack was by comparison. No, I'd rather ask the bangers who Joe avoided how over rated Frazier is. I bet Johnson would beat Frazier.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Oh theres plenty of evidence,if you know how to judge and determine boxing skill,He was very very quick,could literally catch punches in the air,was almost impossible to hit,how many HW in the last 50yrs would be able to fight 40rnds in one night?Joe Frazier retired from boxing at 31 due to serious retinal damage,he didnt avoid anybody,he went 45rnd with the most dynamic HW ever and left plenty of damage on him,which these "heavies" didnt,you wanna know how good frazier was ask Ali
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Look, I'm getting tired of you, don't make me get that djk kid on you! Seriously though, how can you look at that clickety clankety film with all the missing frames and judge how fast the man was moving compared to Ali? Or Tyson? Hey, look at Johnson's old footage, and tell me, who was faster, him or Tyson? Does the film show that he was faster or less fast than Ali? What about the film indicates these details? I mean, exactly what do you look at to measure Johnson's speed?
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Will you please shut up...Your stupidity is annoying as hell...Buster spanked your little boy and was 5 or so years older so shut up asswipe....Do not bring up that prime shit because Buster was older and past his prime...He simply schooled your little boy....FUCKWAD
djk28161 4 months ago
@djk28161 PARDON?i think you are addressing someother post.I havent mentioned Buster or any Prime,what are you talking about???you're clearly having a lot of problems,its ok i forgive you
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Ha ha ha! Now it looks like somebody is on your neck (djk28161); ha ha; get'em like you got me; don't back down. LOL. I see Tyson managed to make your top 10. You know, if he managed to beat Holyfield or Lennox he'd make my list too. Why do you pick one handed punching bag face Frazier over Liston? Clearly Fraziers built for Sonny Liston to knock his easily hit head off just as George did; check out Liston's fights sans Ali, the man was a bear for real.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Joe Frazier went 45 rnd with Ali staggered him around like a drunken sailor knocked him down and gave him bleeding kidneys for months,Sonny Liston barely laid a glove on him in 2 fights!George Foreman knocked Joe down 7 times and Joe STILL got up after every single one!!!Nobody is on my neck,at all,think that person answered some other post,i never used the words Buster or Prime!and he's clearly got some mental and emotional issues,i feel sorry for him
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Yeah, after the layoff & Ali had 2 rush tune ups against the likes of Quarry(who he looked terrible against,& Bonevena,who he also looked terrible against),& Frazier never won again, Ali damn near killed him in fights 1 & 3, TKOed him in 3; & Frazier almost got knocked out in 2 & couldn't lay a glove on him in 2. Besides, Liston's prime was mostly 1950s; easy to hit Frazier wouldve been slaughtered by Liston just as Liston's pupil Foreman slaughtered him.Joe ducked 2 many big guns.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice fuck that man,Ali put both Quarry and Bonavena away convincingly,Ali damn near killed nothing,almost ko nothing,Ali coulnt KO Frazier if he fought him 100 times,go listen to what Ali said about Frazier in the Press conference after Manilla,ask if hes overrated?are you mad?Foreman dropped him so what?he got back up every time!!he didnt duck anybody he retired!!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Don't judge fights on stuff said outside the ring,what happened inside counts;We know Ali left the hospital in a few hours; Frazier's mishappen face and head kept him hospitalized for WEEKS! His pressure,kidneys,every damn thing on him malfunctioned,he almost died.Look it up! In 2nd fight, rnd 2, he ran into Ali's right,his knees buckled,he staggered back,& Ali chased him firing,Frazier ran, the ref thought the bell rang & saved him;Ali beat his eye out /TKO/ retired him in Manilla.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Joe Frazier fought his whole entire career basically with just one eye,even going way back to the olympics,which is astonishing,today he wouldnt even get a licence.You keep talking about Liston,he coulnt even touch Ali,Joe damn sure did more than that,ruptured kidneys,urinating blood for months!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee More excuses!Save them.Ali had bruised not ruptured kidney.Post Frazier's damages after 1.Go ahead,how long was Frazier's hospital stay?Ali's? Post it. Post what Ali did to his face and head, post how every ailment under the sun kept Joe hospitalized for weeks. Post it. Why this lopsided stuff? You know nobody damaged Frazier as Ali did. Foreman just knocked him down; he had no telling damage. Ali hospitalized, disfigured, beat his eyes out, TKO'ed and retired his ass 2 fights to 1.
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Muhammed Ali was the best HW ever,we're all agreed on that,right?So?who was his toughest ever opponent,even by his own admission?not Liston,not Foreman,not Shavers,not Norton,WHO?JOE FRAZIER!!on THAT basis alone,Joe Frazier HAD to be something else...i rest my case....
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee Foreman could have been a real opponent to Ali... And if it have been possible, Tyson against Ali would have been very interesting to see...
FuckViacom4thJuly 3 months ago
@MrPerryrice if this guy was the best,and i shook him harder than the rest,even by HIS OWN admission,then what does that make me?.........case closed,your honour........
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
@onlyjoetee styles make fights. Yeah sure he gave ali all he could handle but did you see frazier against foreman? He beat him easily. It's all about whos style suits who the best.
mike649fox 2 months ago
Well that was boring!
jamesjr934 5 months ago
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stuntmanjeff423 6 months ago
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stuntmanjeff423 6 months ago
This shows me that the Ali of 1967 would have had NO trouble with this Tyson.
vgr112261 6 months ago
@vgr112261 yea if he holds everytime tyson comes in and he has mills lane as a ref then yea he would win by decision
stuntmanjeff423 6 months ago
@stuntmanjeff423 No, Tyson don't loose big fights by decision, he gets knocked the hell out. His record shows that. Plus Tucker broke his hand early in this fight & still dealt with Tyson with one damn hand.& yeah, Ali would tie Tyson up everytime Tyson got anywhere near him, & beat Tysons ass the rest of the fight. And Mike wouldn't be able to do anything about it except fold, like he always has against the top heavies and champions of his generation.How can he beat the GOAT? In his dreams!
MrPerryrice 4 months ago
@vgr112261 And you base that on what, exactly? If you believe Tucker and Ali are similar style fighters, did Tyson not completely and totally dominate the Tucker fight? Forget the KO because, believe it or not, Tyson could win matches on decisions. Tyson dominated, Tucker ran and held for much of the fight, and if Tucker decided to get brave and slug it out, he got nailed with bombs. Based off of this fight, your comments mean nothing.
LedWhisky69 5 months ago
@vgr112261 True but what heavyweight in any era stood a chance against Ali V. '67? I think even guys like Lennox and Big Vit would lose every round.
ph1484 5 months ago
@vgr112261 Although if anyone has the style to beat Ali, it's a Tyson. Ali has even said that much.
ph1484 5 months ago
@ph1484 : Tyson's stature is similar to Joe Fraizer who obviously gave Ali the most trouble in his career. However with Ali's speed, his long jab, and strong chin I still think Ali wins simply because Tyson's trainers taught him how to fight and not how to box. If Tyson were to beat Ali it would have to be early.
D2Kprime 5 months ago
@D2Kprime Ali was from an era that boxers did not train as much as Tyson and some of his rivals. Just look at Brunos ripped and cut body in their fight, Ali never had any boxer in the ring with him with that type of conditioning...
SuperMangn 5 months ago
@SuperMangn : I disagree. Big muscles have nothing to do with conditioning. Big muscles just mean big muscles. LEAN muscle is a sign of good conditioning which is what Ali had. I would take any prime fighter in Ali's era over a prime Frank Bruno in terms of conditioning any day of the week. Those guys trained to be able to go 15 rounds per fight. As far as guys Ali fought that were ripped, Ken Norton and George Foreman come to mind.
D2Kprime 5 months ago
@ph1484 : Tyson's stature is similar to Joe Fraizer who obviously gave Ali the most trouble in his career. However with Ali's speed, his long jab, and strong chin I still think Ali wins simply because Tyson's trainers taught him how to fight and not how to box. If Tyson were to beat Ali it would have to be early.
D2Kprime 5 months ago
I look out the window and this stupid hurricane is raking us and wish you speak just a word to me. speak to me. I need the one that is greater than me. No one has demolished me as you have; pleaese speak. I submit. Totally submit. You are the greatest. Speak to me. Boo Wooo Whoo! Where are you?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
JamesWilliamsDallas I bet my secret can top yours. Want to know what it is?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice to JamesWilliamsDallas: Where are you my master? Please come back. I miss you.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: PLAYED, idiot. PLAYED BY ME, idiot. PLAYED BY THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME, idiot. PLAYED, and you KNOW it, hahaha.
Don't take it too hard, my friend. You still have lots to learn before you can call yourself the greatest.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas Can't prove it can you?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
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Prove to me you are one person, and I'll submit to the truth. How can you prove it? Otherwise, I still WIN.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH I dropped so many clues for you, so many hints but you STILL don't see that it was me the whole time??????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOW STUPID ARE YOU????????? HAHAHAHAHAHA
I laugh SO hard everytime you say "all 5 of you", hahahah, because there is only me!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA. ANd you said you would leave 3 times already, why aren't you leaving? Can't get over the fact that you were PLAYED? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas Look YOU! YOU ALL! I want you to prove it to me? Prove it.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ok destroyer take care.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas Alright. Take it easy. Father of all LIES! It was fun.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: HAHAHA deep down you know what I say is true, you were PLAYED by the GREATST OF ALL TIME- ME!!!!!!!!
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas How would I know such a thing? I don't have a crystal ball. Stop talking foolish in desperation. I smashed all 5 of you, and detected your little secret.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
Take it easy; I'm gone. The destroyer will leave now.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
All 5 of you are a pack of gay guys tryin to hide it.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
And you still threw your mother under the bus, and don't try to ease your guilt now.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: HAHAHAHAHAHA still in denial? Kid, you still have lots to learn. I hope you learned your lesson here with the FATHER of lies here, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ok, I'm leaving now but any time you wanna become my protege feel free to PM me. Peace.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
HAHAHAHHHAAHHAHAHAH I bet the people looking at this are all talking about how stupid this kid is HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA to believe me HAHAHAH I dropped so many little clues and signs and hints but he's so damn STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HHAHAHAHAHAa
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas Bullcrap; you're just tyin to hide the fact the you ROOMATES are all a pack of Gay Guys. I'm out of here now. Ha ha ha.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: HOLY FUCK HAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE STILL IN DENIAL?????????????? You were PLAYED man, PLAYED by the greatest player of all time- ME!!!!!!!
There are no roommates. There are no Rush Hour buddies. There are no brothers. Those were all fun little lies I spread, and you fell for it!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and you're still falling for it!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa
YOU GOT DESTROYED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
And why am I worthy of such a revealation from you (5) ? I see you revealed it nowhere else.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh shit the FOOL was STUPID hahahahahahahahaha he still thinks we're 5 different people!!!!!!!!!!! Oh shit HAHAHAHAHA cough cough HAHAHAHAHAHA,
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas Hang it up. You 5 roomates cannot save face trying this lame escape from the destruction I leveled your house with.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
Oh yeah! Your moms, tell me the truth. It's on my mind. Is she ok? No jokes dammit!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
HAHAHAHA holy shit that was EPIC!!!! I should give my self a high 5 for luring another victim!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the fool is still in denial and shock!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAa oh god i cant stop laughing HAAHAHAHHAAA
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
That's it; I'm out of here! Can I retract my word, and come back to learn at the master's feet (HA HA HA)?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: Still don't believe me? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you just look like a hurt and confused little retard in denial right now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ok, believe what you will. But HAHAHAHAHAHA that was fun.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: The more you deny it the more I laugh my ass off. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas You mean, all 5 of you are laughing your asses off!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: And you think YOU are the greatest?????? HAHAHA, I played you like a man playing a virgin girl.
I'll leave it at that. Look at you now........ You're SPEECHLESS, in awe of my genius and awesomeness.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas In your dreams! You are just trying to save face; all 5 of you! ha ha Nice try; But I'm still the master here.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: FOOL!!!!!!!!!!! It was me the whole time. It was just you vs me the whole time. The other 5 accounts are imaginary account created by me so i can have a little fun with a little troll like you. And you thought we were separate people! HAHAHAHAHA, what a RETARD!!!! You can choose not to believe it, but I'm telling you, you were played like an ant in my palm. And you're STILL in denial? HAHAHAHA
I'm the greatest trickster that ever lived. Be my student and learn from me.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas Yo ass is crazy! If true, why do you do it? Have you no f_ing Life?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
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MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@Mrperryrice: I am finally leaving forever knowing that you were owned and fooled, just like many of my other enemies.
Two words for you- PAWNED MOTHERFUCKA!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHA, bye Mr. Necrphilia. Don't get into fights.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas One question? Do you think I believe that?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: The secret is that @wenpire, @jacksonwenpire, @Thurmanraj, @49kdonggyu94, and me @JamesWilliamsDallas are in fact ONE person- me. LMFAO, I played you like a cat playing a mentally-retarded mouse. Took you WAY too long to catch on, retarded troll. You really thought we were different people? LMFAO. what a dumb ass you are. It was SOO fun to confuse a troll like you. SOOO fun. Never had so much fun in my life. Now I am leaving for good knowing that you were fooled and OWNED.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas What the hell? Aww, Man!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas No way: I'd be stupidier than the 5 of you combined if I believe you were anything but 5 roomates, a bit too close, but not that close! Nice try. I smashed you all, and this is all you nutcases can come up with? Later for you roomates! Fool somebody else, you can not fool me. All of you are roomates. And easy. And I smashed you all to desperate measures. You cannot save face with this lie. Roomates Forever, is what you all are. HA ha ha. Goodbye foulmouthed ones!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: Before I tell you this secret, I want you to know that I had lots of fun with you. Now ready for the secret?
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas You promise for the last time, not to cross me? I've got feelings too you know? Then I'll say yes cause I'm anxious to know your secret. Is there more than one?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
NO PMs Say it here?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas: Oh dear, this is really gonna give Mr Perry rice a heart attack when you tell him.
49kdonggyu94 6 months ago
@49kdonggyu94 And what do you know about all this? hmmm?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@49kdonggyu94: I'll pm you the secret first.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas Damn! I'm nervous!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: It's not about my Mom.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
If you leave you will never know this secret about me and some of the other people here. Ever. Your choice.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas So, you agree to let me out of my aforementioned committment to leave? Without calling me a wordbreaker if I stay?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
This means I gotta go, you've met my price. Damn; I did not think you all would meet it.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
Do you want to know this secret? It will shock you.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
I swaer on the grave of my mother it is not a trick
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas Don't play man. If your moms is passed for real, I did not know; and if she is not passed, you should not have said so just for kicks. Tell me the truth. No jokes. No tricks. Your word, ok? What is the truth?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
Do you want to know a secret? Mr Perryrice?
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: Want to know a secret?
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas I'm scared to ask.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: You mad at me?
49kdonggyu94 6 months ago
@49kdonggyu94 Is this a trick?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
And everyone on this planet knows Ali is the greatest. Nobody has to confess it.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas Then why the hell have you wasted my time for 3 whole days!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice: Want to know a secret?
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
@JamesWilliamsDallas You mad at me?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
such foul language! And dumbass, if it was gibberish, how on earth have you and them responded? Must mean you understand gibberish, eh?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPeryrice: What language are you talking in? Gibberish? Nobody even understands what the fuck you're saying anymore. You're living in your own ass brother.
49kdonggyu94 6 months ago
@49kdonggyu94 And if you all can't understand it anymore it's only because I kicked you alls brains out on here. Thanks, dumbass for admitting that too. You just keep helping me make my points, don't you?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice to 49kdonggyu94 : Are you mad at me?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
I never told you my price; well here it is, an easy price too:
"Every head must bow, every mouth must confess, that this man here (Ali) is the greatest of all time."
Say that as Mike Tyson said it, as I say it, and as the majority of fight professionals say it, and then I will leave your little House for good. Deal? Will you confess Ali is the greatest? If so, upon my word and honor, I will never comment on this site again. My word.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
Want me to really leave and never come back? I am willing. Will you pay my price?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
49kdonggyu94? You mad at me?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
wenpire? You there? You mad at me?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
ThurmanRaj? You mad at me?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
JamesWilliamsDallas; You mad at mrperryrice?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago