hi there! If it´s your cheeks pushing, why don´t you push at 3:16 - 3:20? Can only be your tongue pushing. Bsw: It´s not possible with your throat, cause you inhale through your throat;-)
it's a bubble mute by Jo-Ral. Also known as a Harmon mute, but using "Harmon" to describe this mute is like using "Kleenex" to describe all tissue, if you know what I mean. I chose this mute because it provides lots of back pressure which can make circular breathing easier.
I can't seem to get this right for some reason but I think that it revolves around my pushing of the air from my cheeks to the trumpet... I don't understand how that works and how you take in a breath really quickly at the same time or simultaneously :S
Yeah, it happens at the SAME time as you blow out with your cheek air. You close off your throat to use the air in your cheeks to keep the sound going. As you do that, breathe in through your nose. Might be easier to read the step-by-step which you can do in my book, Sound the Trumpet: How to Blow Your Own Horn, which you can find on Amazon and lots of other places. Good luck!
I am so going to get this nailed. I really want to get this sorted. Im probably going to start with straw-and-water first. Then I can treat as a game and not practise, which will help me enjoy it more when Im frustrated with my stupid malcoordination. grr...
ha! You're right, it's easier with a Harmon-style mute in because there's more backpressure. If anybody out there is having trouble, try it with a mute. (and btw, I use this w/ didgeridoo much more than with trumpet....;-)
i can alomst do it. but when i do it the air always stopps right before the air contines. like i force the air out and breathe but the air flow stops before and i can't figure out how to keep it going? help? lol
you're almost there! Try blowing BEFORE you run out of the air in your cheeks. Try taking a faster breath thru your nose so you can continue blowing before the air in your cheeks runs out. Keep at it and you'll get it.
@goofchicken95 same thing here i kinda fixed it by making sure i start blowing as fast as i can after ive pushed the air out, the space is very small in between and hardly noticeable.
I have got the coordination part down and I can do it for several minutes while breathing (the straw and water trick), but when I try it on my trumpet, there is always a slight break between when I inhale through my nose and using that air to keep blowing. It doesn't sound clean. Any idea why this is happening?
You've got the hardest part down. It's easier to do w/ the straw-water than with the horn, but that gap you mention is probably there with the straw-water, too, you just can't hear it. The transition is the trickiest part. Try beginning the air flow from your lungs sooner, before the air in your cheeks runs out. It's hard to get perfectly smooth, so throwing some note changes in while you do it will cover the gaps a bit. Hope this helps. Let me know how it goes...
A euphonium is possible, only a short second or two, I play the Tuba and i can manage a split second on my instrument, which is pretty much useless for me cause i only can breathe in <1/10 of my full breath and it can't sustain me,but well, i'm still young.
hmmm.... Are you using the tip of the tongue to stop the air from your lungs while you blow out your cheeks? If so, that's the trouble. It's the back of the tongue that is used to block the air from the lungs. If it's just that the tip gets in the way, practice w/o the horn and just really focus on keeping the tip down. Keep at it. You'll get it!
haha! Good luck with that! Not impossible, but LOTS more difficult than trumpet. You have to sniff in through your nose REALLY fast b/c the air in your cheeks gets used up almost immediately. But you probably already know that.... :-)
It's the same idea, but because you're moving more air with the euphonium it's a little more challenging. You have to sniff in really fast. The skill to do this on euphonium is very similar to playing didgeridoo and circular breathing. That would be a fun way to practice it....
@jharnum i can do the sniffing, but the thing im having problem with is the air you push out with your cheek muscles while breathing in with your nose
yeah, that's tough, especially w/ a large instrument like euphonium. Are you getting any sound at all? If yes, then you're on the right track. If not, try the action w/o the horn on your face. Can you get the buzz? If you explain in more detail what's going on when you try it, I might be able to suggest some fixes....
The sound always stops for a brief second when i switch back to buzzing out of my mouth normally after i finish breathing through my nose, how do I stop this, I've een practicing since May and I can't get it
that's a tough one to diagnose w/o actually seeing/hearing you do it. Try this:
1. before your cheeks run out of air, start blowing again. This should ease the transition some.
2. practice w/o the horn (I just did a few to see/feel how I made the transition). This takes one of the difficult parts out of the process and might help you w/ the coordination of the breath.
3. awesome of you for sticking w/ it since May. Keep at it. Maybe take a lesson if you can.
Finally managed it! It took me 4 days (cca 3 hrs of time in total) but now I can breathe in while blowing the trumpet without interruption:) But it will obviously take much more time to sustain the quality of the tone...and there is no trick for this I guess - it must be a matter of practice. Anyway, thank you for this and other great and very helpful videos!!
Pretty much the same as the cheek version, but the air is stored in the throat/neck and the back of the mouth. Can't get quite as much air packed into those spaces, so it's a little more difficult. In some ways it's better b/c you don't puff your cheeks, which can throw off the embouchure (plus, you don't look like a bullfrog, or a frigate bird....)
Yes, just takes practice.... It's easier to tell when the note is sustained, but if you're changing notes while you do it, changes in tone are difficult to hear....
Would you say circular breathing is easier on the trumpet than it is on the didgeridoo? I already play didge and I'm studying for a music education major, so I'm going to have to learn trumpet, trombone, etc. in brass methods class, something that can't come soon enough. :D I'm anxious to try circular breathing on a brass instrument.
I think it's easier to circular breathe on a trumpet. It's the backpressure--the resistance of the tube to the flow of air through it--that helps w/ circular breathing. Didgeridoos come in various backpressures, right? More pressure=better. As far as I know, there aren't any method books out there that teach circ. breathing. One of my books, "Sound the Trumpet: How to Blow Your Own Horn" has info on this, and I've used it to teach music ed students at Northwestern University for the last 4 yrs.
@jharnum I've found that circular breathing on trumpet is more difficult for myself because of the back pressure. The changes in tone are more apparent on trumpet than on didg for me; I'm guessing because the trumpet embouchure is so much more focused. Also, the coordination issue of fingering notes is thrown in. I wonder if I would still feel the same had I learned to circular breathe on trumpet.
Sweet! That's the first (and probably hardest) step. For moving around while circular breathing, start w/ sth you know REALLY well, totally memorized, so you can focus on the breath and not the notes. Even just one note to another is a good start. Congrats!
haha. Nobody can! You've got to use your cheeks to push out the air you've got stored in them like a chipmunk, and while you're doing that, breathe in through your nose. It just takes practice. Keep at it..
Yes, it is difficult. Take the steps in the vid really slowly. For example, take a week and during your practice session, try to just make a sound w/ just air in your cheeks. In week two, puff up your cheeks (don't blow/buzz), and breathe through your nose. In week 3, combine the two so that you're pushing air w/ your cheeks while inhaling through your nose. It's a lot like rubbing your head and patting your stomach at the same time. If you have a person show you, it's easier.... Good luck!
I lol'd at 2:21 - definitely something i would practice in private and NOT publish on youtube lol. great video, I'll have to try it - i learned the flight of the bumblebee but I cut some of the beats out so i could breath instead of being a real player and circular breathing.
i play trumpet with my bottom lip. idk if u know what that means but what im trying to say is that i have my mouth piece lowered down instead of centered(i used to play off to the side and low it was horrible kindof) but when u try to puff out my checks it messes with my chops(they are really sensitive when i play this way) ive never heard of the putting the air in my throat. is there any way to practice this and how would i do it exactly.
yeah you can put the air in the back of your mouth and throat. Kind of hard to describe, but try filling your mouth w/ air, then closing your lips tightly and pushing air up through from your lungs/stomach. don't open your mouth and don't puff your cheeks and this should expand the back and underside of your mouth and your throat. Keep trying!
I had no idea where to start to learn this technique. Thanks alot man :)
WastedOne111 1 month ago
@WastedOne111
No problem. Glad to hear it. Good luck!
jharnum 1 month ago
i didnt know such a tecnique existed........ im thrilled! but it only took a day for me to get it right so........ cool cool
imtiredoftakennames 2 months ago
@imtiredoftakennames
great!
jharnum 2 months ago
hi there! If it´s your cheeks pushing, why don´t you push at 3:16 - 3:20? Can only be your tongue pushing. Bsw: It´s not possible with your throat, cause you inhale through your throat;-)
didgesbrew 2 months ago
it's a bubble mute by Jo-Ral. Also known as a Harmon mute, but using "Harmon" to describe this mute is like using "Kleenex" to describe all tissue, if you know what I mean. I chose this mute because it provides lots of back pressure which can make circular breathing easier.
jharnum 3 months ago
what type of mute is that??
RuizFelipeDaniel 3 months ago
I can't seem to get this right for some reason but I think that it revolves around my pushing of the air from my cheeks to the trumpet... I don't understand how that works and how you take in a breath really quickly at the same time or simultaneously :S
OxKillah 7 months ago
@OxKillah
Yeah, it happens at the SAME time as you blow out with your cheek air. You close off your throat to use the air in your cheeks to keep the sound going. As you do that, breathe in through your nose. Might be easier to read the step-by-step which you can do in my book, Sound the Trumpet: How to Blow Your Own Horn, which you can find on Amazon and lots of other places. Good luck!
jharnum 7 months ago
wow i have never heard of this before it really helps for my concert piece!
Kern604 7 months ago
@Kern604
Great! Good luck!
jharnum 7 months ago
I am so going to get this nailed. I really want to get this sorted. Im probably going to start with straw-and-water first. Then I can treat as a game and not practise, which will help me enjoy it more when Im frustrated with my stupid malcoordination. grr...
Hugehugo912 7 months ago
@Hugehugo912
Stick with it! If you have a Harmon mute, that might help at first when you go to the horn. Take it slow and you'll get it.
jharnum 7 months ago
you're using a mute cheater! lol
fighterace0 10 months ago
@fighterace0
ha! You're right, it's easier with a Harmon-style mute in because there's more backpressure. If anybody out there is having trouble, try it with a mute. (and btw, I use this w/ didgeridoo much more than with trumpet....;-)
jharnum 10 months ago
i can alomst do it. but when i do it the air always stopps right before the air contines. like i force the air out and breathe but the air flow stops before and i can't figure out how to keep it going? help? lol
goofchicken95 1 year ago
@goofchicken95
you're almost there! Try blowing BEFORE you run out of the air in your cheeks. Try taking a faster breath thru your nose so you can continue blowing before the air in your cheeks runs out. Keep at it and you'll get it.
jharnum 1 year ago
@goofchicken95 same thing here i kinda fixed it by making sure i start blowing as fast as i can after ive pushed the air out, the space is very small in between and hardly noticeable.
gayhorseseathaaay 11 months ago
I have got the coordination part down and I can do it for several minutes while breathing (the straw and water trick), but when I try it on my trumpet, there is always a slight break between when I inhale through my nose and using that air to keep blowing. It doesn't sound clean. Any idea why this is happening?
gandalfpres 1 year ago
@gandalfpres
You've got the hardest part down. It's easier to do w/ the straw-water than with the horn, but that gap you mention is probably there with the straw-water, too, you just can't hear it. The transition is the trickiest part. Try beginning the air flow from your lungs sooner, before the air in your cheeks runs out. It's hard to get perfectly smooth, so throwing some note changes in while you do it will cover the gaps a bit. Hope this helps. Let me know how it goes...
jharnum 1 year ago
A euphonium is possible, only a short second or two, I play the Tuba and i can manage a split second on my instrument, which is pretty much useless for me cause i only can breathe in <1/10 of my full breath and it can't sustain me,but well, i'm still young.
kawerty 1 year ago
@kawerty
yeah, Tuba would be superhard. I'll ask Rex Martin (prof @ Northwestern) if it's a technique ever used by tuba players. Kinda doubt it....
jharnum 1 year ago
@jharnum Thanks in advance! :)
kawerty 1 year ago
impossible !!!
tjames20 1 year ago
@tjames20
nope, just takes practice. Do a YouTube search on Raphael Mendez, and "Flight of the Bumblebee" to see/hear a master do it.
jharnum 1 year ago
@jharnum its true, i use circular breathing
optimusguy1 1 year ago
@jharnum IMPOSSIBLE. . On a tuba.
kawerty 1 year ago
it seems like the main problem i have with this is keeping the tip of my tongue from getting in the way as i start blowing again.
sweeterthananything 1 year ago
@sweeterthananything
hmmm.... Are you using the tip of the tongue to stop the air from your lungs while you blow out your cheeks? If so, that's the trouble. It's the back of the tongue that is used to block the air from the lungs. If it's just that the tip gets in the way, practice w/o the horn and just really focus on keeping the tip down. Keep at it. You'll get it!
jharnum 1 year ago
I finally got!!
WOOT WOOT..
awsomepossum36 1 year ago
Im learning for tuba. . . Basically impossible. T-T
ShinyHunterBWord 1 year ago
@ShinyHunterBWord
haha! Good luck with that! Not impossible, but LOTS more difficult than trumpet. You have to sniff in through your nose REALLY fast b/c the air in your cheeks gets used up almost immediately. But you probably already know that.... :-)
jharnum 1 year ago
@jharnum lol. Yup I've been working on it for probably a year now. It's still really hard.
ShinyHunterBWord 1 year ago
what about circular breathing for euphonium?
jd112460 1 year ago
@jd112460
It's the same idea, but because you're moving more air with the euphonium it's a little more challenging. You have to sniff in really fast. The skill to do this on euphonium is very similar to playing didgeridoo and circular breathing. That would be a fun way to practice it....
jharnum 1 year ago
@jharnum i can do the sniffing, but the thing im having problem with is the air you push out with your cheek muscles while breathing in with your nose
jd112460 1 year ago
@jd112460
yeah, that's tough, especially w/ a large instrument like euphonium. Are you getting any sound at all? If yes, then you're on the right track. If not, try the action w/o the horn on your face. Can you get the buzz? If you explain in more detail what's going on when you try it, I might be able to suggest some fixes....
jharnum 1 year ago
The sound always stops for a brief second when i switch back to buzzing out of my mouth normally after i finish breathing through my nose, how do I stop this, I've een practicing since May and I can't get it
koolmoedee95 1 year ago
@koolmoedee95
that's a tough one to diagnose w/o actually seeing/hearing you do it. Try this:
1. before your cheeks run out of air, start blowing again. This should ease the transition some.
2. practice w/o the horn (I just did a few to see/feel how I made the transition). This takes one of the difficult parts out of the process and might help you w/ the coordination of the breath.
3. awesome of you for sticking w/ it since May. Keep at it. Maybe take a lesson if you can.
Good luck!
jharnum 1 year ago
Finally managed it! It took me 4 days (cca 3 hrs of time in total) but now I can breathe in while blowing the trumpet without interruption:) But it will obviously take much more time to sustain the quality of the tone...and there is no trick for this I guess - it must be a matter of practice. Anyway, thank you for this and other great and very helpful videos!!
maniack68 1 year ago
@maniack68
Sweet! Glad to hear it....
jharnum 1 year ago
how dio you do the neck one?
stepott 1 year ago
@stepott
Pretty much the same as the cheek version, but the air is stored in the throat/neck and the back of the mouth. Can't get quite as much air packed into those spaces, so it's a little more difficult. In some ways it's better b/c you don't puff your cheeks, which can throw off the embouchure (plus, you don't look like a bullfrog, or a frigate bird....)
jharnum 1 year ago
is it possible to use circular breathing without altering your tone?
mrjli 1 year ago
@mrjli
Yes, just takes practice.... It's easier to tell when the note is sustained, but if you're changing notes while you do it, changes in tone are difficult to hear....
jharnum 1 year ago
I do that!!
Blazecyndaquil2 1 year ago
Would you say circular breathing is easier on the trumpet than it is on the didgeridoo? I already play didge and I'm studying for a music education major, so I'm going to have to learn trumpet, trombone, etc. in brass methods class, something that can't come soon enough. :D I'm anxious to try circular breathing on a brass instrument.
mbrsart 1 year ago
I think it's easier to circular breathe on a trumpet. It's the backpressure--the resistance of the tube to the flow of air through it--that helps w/ circular breathing. Didgeridoos come in various backpressures, right? More pressure=better. As far as I know, there aren't any method books out there that teach circ. breathing. One of my books, "Sound the Trumpet: How to Blow Your Own Horn" has info on this, and I've used it to teach music ed students at Northwestern University for the last 4 yrs.
jharnum 1 year ago
@jharnum I've found that circular breathing on trumpet is more difficult for myself because of the back pressure. The changes in tone are more apparent on trumpet than on didg for me; I'm guessing because the trumpet embouchure is so much more focused. Also, the coordination issue of fingering notes is thrown in. I wonder if I would still feel the same had I learned to circular breathe on trumpet.
kristophershaneartz 1 year ago
@kristophershaneartz
Yeah, good points, all of them. I'm glad there is no fingering on didj! Thanks for the contribution!
jharnum 1 year ago
you're better at this then a lot of other people on youtube
jpatton1989 1 year ago
omg wow i dident know how easy it would be to circular breath i just learned about circular breathing in class thx
Darrin1997 1 year ago
I can do it while i'm holding a note, but not while i'm playing up and down.
civicdude101 1 year ago
Sweet! That's the first (and probably hardest) step. For moving around while circular breathing, start w/ sth you know REALLY well, totally memorized, so you can focus on the breath and not the notes. Even just one note to another is a good start. Congrats!
jharnum 1 year ago
dang i went to a music store and blew in to a trumpet it hurt my lips bad
DOUBLEBFACTORY 1 year ago
I can't breathe in and out at the same time =[
ChadA23 1 year ago
haha. Nobody can! You've got to use your cheeks to push out the air you've got stored in them like a chipmunk, and while you're doing that, breathe in through your nose. It just takes practice. Keep at it..
jharnum 1 year ago
This is true. But this is very difficult. I have a lot of trouble not using my lungs to exhale. Or inhaling while puffing my cheeks.
ChadA23 1 year ago
Yes, it is difficult. Take the steps in the vid really slowly. For example, take a week and during your practice session, try to just make a sound w/ just air in your cheeks. In week two, puff up your cheeks (don't blow/buzz), and breathe through your nose. In week 3, combine the two so that you're pushing air w/ your cheeks while inhaling through your nose. It's a lot like rubbing your head and patting your stomach at the same time. If you have a person show you, it's easier.... Good luck!
jharnum 1 year ago
@jharnum Thanks!
ChadA23 1 year ago
Ur vids are awesome
codawsome 2 years ago
2:21 :D:D:D:D
Axolo1991 2 years ago
how do you do it on moving notes
qs3845 2 years ago
I lol'd at 2:21 - definitely something i would practice in private and NOT publish on youtube lol. great video, I'll have to try it - i learned the flight of the bumblebee but I cut some of the beats out so i could breath instead of being a real player and circular breathing.
lukamu 2 years ago
I have to keep breathing all the time and it keeps messing up with my notes. Some notes I just blow instead of buzz because I'm so tired :(
heartofmyocean 2 years ago
maybe you need a better breath? Check out the breathing vids I have on here. Just uploaded a new one last week. That should help some...
jharnum 2 years ago
cool this is kind of like rubbing your belly and taping ur head
Hayesy15 2 years ago
haha. it is!
jharnum 2 years ago
i play trumpet with my bottom lip. idk if u know what that means but what im trying to say is that i have my mouth piece lowered down instead of centered(i used to play off to the side and low it was horrible kindof) but when u try to puff out my checks it messes with my chops(they are really sensitive when i play this way) ive never heard of the putting the air in my throat. is there any way to practice this and how would i do it exactly.
Hector95100 2 years ago
yeah you can put the air in the back of your mouth and throat. Kind of hard to describe, but try filling your mouth w/ air, then closing your lips tightly and pushing air up through from your lungs/stomach. don't open your mouth and don't puff your cheeks and this should expand the back and underside of your mouth and your throat. Keep trying!
jharnum 2 years ago