AE86, 4AGE, new cams at idle and rev happy

[Mooseboy240]

you think carbs are better than Itbs?

[pinkae86]

@Mooseboy240 I didn't say carbs were better. If I had the funds for itb's then I would have went that route. I got a good deal on these and thought I would give them a go. I learned allot from this build; revisiting the old school, figuring out how to convert to carbs(fuel and ignition system), and overall auto mechanics.

[dantemaniak]

every v-tec can suck a dick <3

[HeyMan096]

@dantemaniak Its not a Honda motor.

[dantemaniak]

@HeyMan096 I'm Toyota fan and Honda antyfan so I know what engine is this... =='

That's why I wrote that...

[HeyMan096]

@dantemaniak I Hate youtube sarcasm :p

[CheesySeb]

I know this video is four years old but MAN those carbs are off balance! There's one that sound about 3/4 of a turn off. Look at how much the engine vibrates when revved,

That's got fuck all to do with 'busted mounts' it's the vibration of one cylinder firing more power than the other three.

[MrIpleadthefizif]

@CheesySeb The carbs were in sync. You are hearing a big cam through a crappy camera. It vibrates because I'm not using 2 of the 4 factory braces. Relax guys, this is just the interwebs.

[xstr33tr4cerx]

why carbs over itbs

[0Evilavenger0]

@xstr33tr4cerx if the engine in his car was carbed from factory its much simpler to just fit bigger carbs than change to fuel injection and on a smaller capacity engine it doenst make alot of difference to peak horse power

[xstr33tr4cerx]

@0Evilavenger0 arent 4age motors fuel injected from the factory? So you should just go for ITBs like everyone else. And carbs are supposed to be a pain in the ass to tune am i right?

[0Evilavenger0]

@xstr33tr4cerx acctualy i was slightly wrong toyota did do a carbed 4ag motor but it didnt go into the ae86, but back then alot of the engines were converted to carbs because they are simpler to tune especialy at home as all you need to do is adjust the needle position by turning a screw much easyer to tune than fuel injection, another reason is that the toyota 4age engine is based on a Ford/cosworth BDA engine from a MK2 escort and theyre carbed so larger carb kits were around

[MrIpleadthefizif]

@0Evilavenger0 I chose carbs because that what was readily available to me and allot of people were doing ITB's at the time. I wanted to clean up the engine bay and make it lighter as well. A carb'd engine is easy to diagnose compared to an EFI engine with all the sensors. With a carb'd engine it's easy to go through the checklist for a running engine; fuel, spark, compression.

[rroge5]

thats lignting fast man! my toyota corolas engine would never do that, any ideas for what i can do?

[MrIpleadthefizif]

@rroge5 Not sure what the actual hp/tq numbers were but it was enough for me to get sideways and beat sr20 240's and skylines.

[Transane]

lighter flywheel will help a bit, but youll always have that dip as those race cams are really designed for WOT and not much more.

[imakedookie]

lighter flywheel, better engine mounts

[MrIpleadthefizif]

@imakedookie I had the lightest TRD flywheel but I'm sure the mounts and a few engine braces could have tamed the vibration and help put more power to the ground.

[SkywalkerTibor]

shit throttle response

[SLAiNTRAX]

@SkywalkerTibor u mad?

[truenokid]

hahah love it sounds like a subaru :P

[Twenty47ep3]

needs better motor mounts. 

[pinkae86]

@Twenty47ep3 You got it spot on. Everyone is stating that the carbs are out of sync which they aren't. You can see when it reaches the rev limiter it moves around allot.

[mockys2007]

can a unisync vac adjuster help tune those four holes?

[BallerinaBell]

the 2 haters drive civics

[yourmother2161]

@BallerinaBell lol i drive a civic.. and im actually putting these on my car.

where did you get this logic?

[mctwistman119]

sounds like my lawnmower.

[rowentan]

Weber DCOE? Cool... And to answer all you guys out there... DCOE are supposed to sound like that during low revs and are a bit lazy during idle. When the RPM reaches 3000 then hell breaks loose and the power never seemed to end all the way up to 8000rpm!

[pinkae86]

@rowentan The crappy idle is because of the cams and not the carbs. You're right on the money, the cams were built to make power to 9500+rpm.

[rowentan]

@pinkae86 Well, i guess that i've just got half of the money right then... But it's a nice piece of work you've got there. A job well done!

[lrover03]

Probably would be a good idea to sync those carbs before you do too many more 7000 rpm blasts under no load. Of course seeing as this was made 3+ years ago, the engine has probably grenaded already, LOL!

[runescapeownsnubs]

@lrover03 What makes you think these carbys aren't properly sync'ed. Personally my perspective as an engineer i think they sound well tuned.

[lrover03]

@runescapeownsnubs Possibly 35 years in the mechanic trade and building several Toyota & VW racing engines, one of which had a similar setup with 40 DCOE's. I can *hear* one of those carbs is opening before the other. Anyway, no big deal, it's not my engine. ;)

[1tinyhachi]

@lrover03 your a moron you can hear it opening threw a computer? must have some fuckin bad ass speakers then...

[lrover03]

@1tinyhachi Actually I do have a good sound system, and I'm not a moron, but I don't need them to tell this thing isn't set up right. Here's a video of one that actually is (and you can hear the difference): youtube(dot)com /watch?v=HrXMSCRHwug

Just copy that last part into your address bar...

[pinkae86]

@runescapeownsnubs Agreed with the engineer.

[killercrx91]

WOW I WISH!

[TheCorollagti]

Hi mate, where did you get your 304 cams from? I want to get some exhaust cams too, getting roughly 200BHP with the shopping list I made for my next project...

Thanks.

[pinkae86]

@TheCorollagti Sorry about the late reply but I got them from someone on club4ag.com.

[TheCorollagti]

Hi mate, where did you get your 304 cams from? I want to get some exhaust cams too, getting roughly 200BHP with the shopping list I made. :D

Thanks.

[TheRangersOfWoolley]

dude badass!!!!! where are the air filters on those quad carbs?

[Barrie240]

Sounds of beat not prperly balanced.

[EDDSTER11]

then it will be a ae85

[johnnyXsniper]

what i would give for an ae86, has to be a levin though

[garage187]

that sounds nice!!!!!

[HiroIchiro]

4 cylinder Beast!!!

[kingofbikes69]

Looks great but sounds lazy like it needs a lighter flywheel.

[7mgtesr20det]

Unlike a girlfirend, this engine has four holes that suck

[jeffzahnd]

@7mgtesr20det maybe not your girlfriend.....

[Gin132456]

@7mgtesr20det lmao u have 69 thumbs up

[patrickDK13]

@7mgtesr20det hahahahahaahaha nice comment :)

[ryuukan9]

@7mgtesr20det EPIC! I was just reading my old super street issue with the Top Secret celica article where they used this line :D

[zerohero93]

@7mgtesr20det my girlfriend has 6

[SchizoFilms]

@zerohero93 I take it you like Supras?

[zerohero93]

@SchizoFilms skyline :D

[SchizoFilms]

@zerohero93 Still a nice choice.

[86ToyStory]

sounds nice man

[didderson]

It is PissT!

[alirzb]

that gave me a boner. that engine is so cool, that if it were a human it could sleep with my girlfriend and it would only make me lover her more

[DoubleOhFresh]

ITS A MONSTER!! thats bad butt!

[newyarican]

wtf are race cams......what kinda lift?? lobe seperation???

[sidewaysstarion]

sounds like the carbs are out of sync

[asiancustoms]

shit nigga are those webers? what size

[madeljacky]

Kinda sounds like a scooby because its running on one carb untill you whine it open. A small adjustment will have it as sweet as a nut. Nice.

[jakeae86]

Nice!!! How many degrees are your cams?

[ThisIsAnfield365]

kind of sounds like a scooby. But Sti's wouldnt stand a chance against this engine.

[InvisibleGuest213]

wow sweet i always wanted to put a 4 throttle on my 86 mr2 aw11

[bboyrenzo]

are you using solid lifters?

[deepseadirt]

more, I want more

[CorvetteKilla]

mother of god

[pleaseiwantapass]

sounds like a boxer engine

[ineedajoint]

thats raw to the core well done you've got good taste with an engine like that

[gamejunky420]

the fuck is a full racing cam?

[skyline2008bp]

Yeah thats a 4AGE it looks like a black top 20 valve..man i need to get my hands on one of them make it into a 11,000 RPM monster

[ElDiablo458]

Is that a 4AGE?

[doridoridrifto]

Awesome dude. Are those Webers or Mikuni-Solex carbs? Do you have the write up on how to convert a 4AGE to carb? I've got an SR5 hatch, so I figured I'd just go with swapping the rear, bellhousing, and engine to a 4AGE as a little project. Let me know dude.

[DeadH4nd]

you got a engine tourque damper? cause I noticed the throttle bodies shaking a LITTLE bit in the lower revs. You could make some smoother power with one

[HypnotizeDRFT]

Sweet! dude where did you get the carbs and manifold? im dying to get'em but idk where. =(

[seanhoeltje]

wow thats beautiful @_@

[SpliteR]

Fuck yeah!! LOVED THE SOUNDS! Favorite!

[xinsanepinoyx]

impeccable

[alexrimsrydr57]

haha yea like u said carbs FTW

[xinsanepinoyx]

diggin tha carbuerator !1 !!

[pinkae86]

Thanks guys. A high compression bottom end is being built. It should be up in the next few weeks. Stay tuned.

[MrIpleadthefizif]

@pinkae86 I ended up making a high compression motor. 12:1 and I popped it good because of poor timing. On to another engine setup....13b, ported, 45 Weber carb. Stay tuned.

[FMKoTRITTONo]

@pinkae86 is that a good thing

[pinkae86]

@FMKoTRITTONo It's going to have more power with a lighter weight as well. The new setup is almost complete. The 13b is more balanced than this 4ag that I was running.

[halun99999]

No words to describe!! just love it!

[YeMadAzza]

Fwhaor that sounds horny as :D