Stop the arguing! It is all very simple and no arguing or disputing of either sides opinions is necessary! Simply look around the world and observe what religious or atheist groups help and advance the worlds down trodden and poor and which ones murder and lie! I can only see one group that is always in the news for killing, rioting and mayhem alone! One which is NEVER in the news for helping ANYONE! Can YOU see which one it is?!
There is no verse that was left unwriten inside the quran. The so-called verses that were left out were nothing more than the greatest lies. In arabic, a single sign in a sentence might change the original meaning. Thanx to the Hafiz (the one who memorized the Quran by heart) all over the world for each mistake (unintentinally-printing error or intentionaly-man doings) to be corrected. Quran will 4ever be preserved. That is Allah's promise
An honest truth seeker does not need a Ph.D in theology to understand the truth that If u read Quran, thru out in Quran, Allah (Some say God) is addressing humans directly or through Muhammad (S). On the contrary, when u read so called bibles, u will read thru out in these priest's authored books "Jesus said this and Jesus said that etc". No where in these man-made books God seems to address people.
I have a difficulty on this subject. If Allah (swt) preserved the Quran in a Tablet form then what about the abrogated verses and the verses which were left out (such as the stoning verse?)
Eisa/Jesus had only a few disciples (not 10s of thousand like with Muhammad (S) & even they left Jesus in difficult time. So original Aramaic bible (Injeel) never existed right after Jesus. The books such as of Mathew Mark Luke John & other 72 conflicting editions & doctrines are fake production of these priests, Paul, & Council of Nicea 325 A.D. In fact Roman Pagans are the most deluded people in mankind history. Simply, their fabricated dogma is like a fictitious tree that has no roots
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
How mny people on this planet remember whole over 72 ed of Bible by heart? Not even a single one. Also it does not make any sense to memorize over 72 confecting editions, one ed says Devil tempted to Jesus & other say GOD tempted-->Ridiculous. Now If u call one QARI of Quran frm North pole & other frm South, one frm USA & 2nd frm Australia & they all will recite same verses of whole Quran --- THE BIGGEST Miracle in universe!
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
Part 3/4
Hafiz/Qari Quran (who memorizes whole Quran by heart) when memorizes Quran, GOD preserves it in "Guarded Tablet" which is right inside the REAL Hafiz. Presently there are 10 Million Hafiz in world. So it is fully protected from the first day. If all the scriptures of world thrown in Ocean; Quran will come back with in a few hrs from the guarded tablet of Qari. Proof: from 1400 yrs, not a single word is changed in Quran
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
Part 1/4
What I am saying here can only be understood by who have in depth true approach in the field of Spirituality, True Muslim SUFI path and Noble Quran. Majority will not understand.
In Quran GOD has repeated many times "I am gatherer, Guard and Protective of this Quran, no any single evil can touch it from any side, it is BOOK that is PRESERVED in GURADED TABLET (Lohe Mafooz). Now we see where is this Guarded Tablet?
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
Part 2/4
In Quran Allah says "O Man I am nearer to you than ur Jugular vein". Jesus said Kingdom of GOD is with in you. In fact Louhe Mahfouz is also with in Kingdom of GOD which is with in man.
All u memorize is not saved in ur memory but in LOHE in ur spirit (real person) Brain memory just uses that saved memory (Modern medical research hs already proved this truth). This is why u will keep ur memory fully as it is even after death
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
Part 4/4
The people, who hv more sages & the best thinkers of this world, surely know the name of IQBAL. Who said all what I hv said just in one line: "Qaari Nazar Aata heh, Haqeeqat mein Quran" which means, apparently it looks u a Qari, but in fact she/he is a Quran. There are some brain-wise deaf dumb & blind stupid who raise objection on Quran even w/o understanding this GREATEST BOOK OF GOD which is light and wisdom for MUTAQEEZ
Jesus brought a new covenant. It starts at the book of Matthew. Read it at bible dot com. That is where christianity starts. Jesus does not allowing killing.
There are thousands of hate messages in the koran. Here are two. Chapter 9 verse 29 and chapter 9 verse 50 both tell muslims to force non muslims to pay protection money ( jizya ) and if they don't pay, then the muslim is allowed to kill them.
"chapter 9 verse 50 both tell muslims to force non muslims to pay protection money and if they don't pay, then the muslim is allowed to kill them" LIAR! Here is your verse:
"If good befalls thee, it grieves them; but if a misfortune befalls thee, they say, "We took indeed our precautions beforehand," and they turn away rejoicing." Qur'an 9:50
Also, do you have a problem with having to pay taxes? If so, you shouldn't be living in the United States.
Oh you'd like us not to live here huh, then you could put your Mosques anywhere you want eh? And for you to call those quoting the Quran liars shows your in denial...like justifying Mohammeds slave trade and 9-year old wife...we know what the Quran says, as if the current actions of it's followers confirm, what else could you expect from Antichrists?
"Oh you'd like us not to live here huh, then you could put your Mosques anywhere you want eh?" Ahahaha! Um, actually, I was saying that because you seemed to have a problem with a Qur'anic verse that speaks about paying taxes, and I said if you have a problem with paying taxes, you're living in the wrong country.
No, I'm talking about United Nations Peace Plan adopted from Mulana Muhammed Ali's book entitled The New World Order, a peace plan that is nothing more than an Islamic solution to an Islamic problem (Uprisings, and Jihads, the 'have nots' demanding land or wealth in exchange for peace) i.e. extortion.
Oh and what you said about Prophet Muhammed and his wife: Prophet Muhammad did marry a 9 year old, and he and his wife consummated the marriage AFTER she reached puberty. Puberty is the age that a Muslim -both men and women- are considered to be adults.
It was culture back then to get married young, and people (including non-Muslims) at the time didn't have a problem with it. The 9 year old was even engaged before that to another man, but the engagement was broken off because the fiancée was a non-Muslim; getting married young was culture back then. Even the Virgin Mary had Jesus when she was around the age of 12...people back then lived shorter lives and got married at younger ages, and this isn't so much the case anymore.
So marriage of a 9-year old was acceptable back then because of the short life spans? And now that people are living longer they should wait until the girl is of legal age?
Also to compare the immaculate conception by the Holy Spirit to that of justifying the marrying and impregnating of underage girls makes no sense whatsoever, and still seems odd it would try to be justified, maybe the Catholic Priest should try the same thing...'well they did it back then'
And you know what? People can use facts and turn it around to make ANYTHING sound twisted. For example, I saw a bumper sticker once reading: "Mary was a un-married, pregnant teenager" ...see how they took the example of such a pious, believing woman and made her sound like a promiscuous slut? See how that is insulting and twisting the facts, even though they claim to be just stating them?
Now let's put our assumptions aside and look at Prophet Muhammad's wife's point of view, shall we? She loved her husband dearly, and in fact she is the source of many of the hadith (stories of the Prophet Muhammad) that we have today, as she worked to spread the message of Islam for the rest of her life. She spoke of how wonderful of a husband he was, and how much she loved him.
There are thousands of hate messages in the koran but one person here keeps spamming to try to block out what i say. Chapter 9 verse 29 and chapter 9 verse 50 are just 2 of the messages of hate towards non muslims.
Credits4Carbon, what are you, kidding me? Have you read all the "hate messages" in the Old Testament? I'd be happy to point out all the ones I have a problem with, if you'd like.
Oh, okay where do I begin? With the unjust verses from the OT about women, or those that call for the killing of just about everything? I guarantee you that OTs violent verses faaaaaaaaar exceed those you'll find in Qur'an, buddy.
First we know the koran is not perfect as it says all the planets treavel in retrograde, that is counterclockwise. That is a lie. Second, there is a big difference between allah and ALAH. The first one is the same one carved about the entrance to every mosque. The second ALAH is GOD in arabic, the one true GOD. The both sound the same when spoken, but one is evil. I know the koran says in sura chapter 8 verse 5, chapter 9 verse 5 chapter 9 verse 29. Find out how hateful the koran is.
credits: what in the world are you talking about? It says no such thing! Point out the verse instead of just lying, and then maybe we can discuss it.
As for what you're saying about Qur'an being 'hateful'-I ask you, have you ever read the Old Testament and some of the stuff it says?? I wonder what you think about all of its verses...
You can't have the Old Testement without the New...for one was law, the other grace...wherein Islam is still stuck in 'law' and knows nothing about grace or forgiveness, and use violence and terror as this is how Islam was revealed to Mohammed. Big difference.
Oh my gosh, I've read the OT, it's laws are just insaine. Muslim law is NOTHING like those restrictive crazy laws of the OT. We aren't just 'stuck in law', as we have simple rules that make our lives easy. Islam is VERY much about God's love and forgiveness...shows how much you know.
"Say: 'O My slaves who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of God, indeed God forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.'" (Quran 39:53)
But in order to be forgiven, you must make a journey to Mecca, to the Ka'aba and touch the cornerstone, a black meteorite that removes the sins of Muslims...think of it, a cornerstone capable of removing sins... which is why they rejected the cornerstone
"But in order to be forgiven, you must make a journey to Mecca"...WRONG. All we need to do is sincerely repent to God, and we will be forgiven of our sins. The hajj pilgramage also cleanses us of our sins (so I can understand where you got that idea from), but it isn't necessary for us to do to be forgiven by God. Forgiveness is repentance.
You weirdo, the Kaaba doesn't remove our sins! It is only GOD Almighty who removes our sins. We only face the kaaba when praying...Jews face the wailing wall, but you don't think when they go visit it and face it during prayer that they're worshipping it, do you?
"We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens: now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do."
We simply face it in prayer; it doesn't remove our sins.
when God decreed the Creation, He pledged to Himself: "My mercy prevails over my wrath."
There are numerous verses in the Qur'an such as this one (71;10), "Seek forgiveness from your Lord. Lo! He is ever-forgiving (if you ask for forgiveness)", and many more where that came from, which emphasize God's love, mercy, and forgiveness for His creation.
yeah, Islam is real cool with everybody, as long as they 'submit' to Islamic law. We don't bow...take your faith back to the desert, for this land doesn't belong to you nor Washington, but the Master of Life who gives it to his 'chosen ones' the Saints.
Ok you said a few ignorant things here, so let me break it down in parts: "yeah, Islam is real cool with everybody, as long as they 'submit' to Islamic law"...WRONG. Islam can't be forced on anybody. We're supposed to present the message and if they choose to accept it, then that's great. If they don't, that's fine and we should all live in peace.
In verse 2:256 of the Qur'an; God said "Let there be no compulsion (forcefulness) in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error"
Verse 10:99 goes on to say, "If it had been thy Lord's Will, they would all have believed, all who are on earth! Wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe?"
Then you said, "We don't bow...take your faith back to the desert, for this land"
LOL first of all, your faith came from the desert too, genius.
Secondly, you may not bow down to God, but Prophet Jesus did, and the Bible even says so: "Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed, 'My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.'" (Matthew 26:39)
Guess again....my faith began in the garden, a paradise, before the woman was deceived into believing the voice of evil was actually good...you know like Mohammeds wife convincing him that the demon that choked him must of been Gabriel, and thus the fall...isn't it amazing how the stories repeat themselves?
Have you read about the orignial 'revelation' of Mohammed? When he was in a cave? and visited by the angry angel, the story that he relayed to his Wife, who convinced him it was the angel Gabriel? Are you posting for all to see your denial of this story? funny.
yeah, by choking him, using violence and terrorism to force him to recite the message, that God beget not a Son (voice of Antichrist) face it, you need to turn from your delusion, Islam is Antichrist, end of story.
"violence and terrorism"...again from the Old Testament. I guess you don't have a problem with all those violent verses? I wonder why you like turning a blind eye to thise...
Also, how unfortunate that you don't know what your own religion says about antichrist! Don't you know that the antichrist is a man who will come at the end of times that Jesus will murder? Don't you know Prophet Muhammad has passed, and thus cannnot be the antichirst? Do I need to give you a religious history lesson?
You probably didn't know that we accept Jesus's validity as messiah, and await his second coming. We're the only other religion to accept him, which is something Christians should actually like.
Christ will come at the end times and kill the antichrist, so that goes to show you exactly who the antichrist is and who he isn't. Get your facts straight.
ustaadh: Qur'an is perfect and the direct word of God. there is nothing about a goat eating anything, you weirdo. stop going to hate-filled websites- they're pure lies.
You think i am lying about the moon god? you have eyes to see so go and look at the quarter moon god that is above the entrance to every single moaque in the world. HELLO. time to wake up muslims. search for the truth by asking GOD the creator to reveal things to yu that yu need to know. If yu do this with an open and hinest heart, the HOLY SPIRIT will reveal things, maybe in yur sleep when yu are more open.
Correction..the Angel Gabriel would not have to use terror or violence to get his message accepted...Mohammed was choked out by this Jinn until he agreed to recite the message of this spirit of Antichrist...that God begets not.
I don't know what lies you're telling again about choking, but it's completely false. And no one should ever use violence to get the message accepted! In verse 2:256 of the Qur'an; God said "Let there be no compulsion (forcefulness) in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error" Verse 10:99 goes on to say, "If it had been thy Lord's Will, they would all have believed, all who are on earth! Wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe?"
Actually GOD has cured amputees. Poeple have grown feet back that have been cut off in industrial accidents or war zones. The traditional media gets higher ratings when they cover bad news. Almost every news director of a TV station is left wing. If they were practising christians, you would see more miracle reports.
The qurab is not from GOD. JESUS spoke put about false prophets. You can tell them by their fruits. The muslim religion has over 15,000 hate messages in it. Does that sound like it is from GOD the creator? JESUS warns about the "wild donkey" in the bible which is the root of the muslims. There are no witnesses to GOD acting on behalf of mohammad but many hundreds to GOD acting on JESUS spoken word.
creditsforcarbon: The Qur'an is indeed from God. Moses, Jesus, and Muhammed were all prophets of God who spoke the truth.
"We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to God in submission." Qur'an 2:136
oh you make a difference alright...you call Jesus a liar, for his whole message was that he was the Only begotten of God...even the Old Testement fortold of this Son of God that Islam, like Washington has rejected.
Muslim don't call Jesus a liar at all! I don't know why you like thinking that. Shouldn't you be happy that we believe he only spoke the truth? We believe Jesus is messiah, and we're waiting for his second coming just like you are...you probably didn't know that, did you? We also believe in his immaculate conception from his mother the Virgin Mary, and that he performed miracles by the leave of God Almighty.
CREDITS4CARBON weres your proof because all that your saying is nothing but a liar moon god ???? When islam teachs use 2 worship allah and only he not 2 gods or three, where you quoting from obviously NOT the quran
The arabs refer to 2 gods. One is Allah & the other is Alah. One is the moon god that is carved over every entrance to every mosque in the world. The other is the arabic spelling of "God" of abraham, isaac & jacob. The quran is not from GOD the creator of the world. We know this because that book says that all planets travel in retrograde. This is not true so therfore it is not from GOD the creator.
Dear you should view some of the lectures by Dr. Zakir Naik availabe here and clear your misconceptions and have a better understanding of Islam and your religion.
protestantsep: what in the world are you talking about? there is no such thing as three daughters. God states very clearly that it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a child. He is high above such a thing.
Seek and you will find...there are three daughters of Allah, I can't recall their exact names but you seek the truth and you will find it....I know, it seemed very contradictory to me as well. Some have said these sura's about the daughters of Allah are called the 'satanic verses'
Stop the arguing! It is all very simple and no arguing or disputing of either sides opinions is necessary! Simply look around the world and observe what religious or atheist groups help and advance the worlds down trodden and poor and which ones murder and lie! I can only see one group that is always in the news for killing, rioting and mayhem alone! One which is NEVER in the news for helping ANYONE! Can YOU see which one it is?!
leestauf 1 year ago
There is no verse that was left unwriten inside the quran. The so-called verses that were left out were nothing more than the greatest lies. In arabic, a single sign in a sentence might change the original meaning. Thanx to the Hafiz (the one who memorized the Quran by heart) all over the world for each mistake (unintentinally-printing error or intentionaly-man doings) to be corrected. Quran will 4ever be preserved. That is Allah's promise
songketbiru 2 years ago
An honest truth seeker does not need a Ph.D in theology to understand the truth that If u read Quran, thru out in Quran, Allah (Some say God) is addressing humans directly or through Muhammad (S). On the contrary, when u read so called bibles, u will read thru out in these priest's authored books "Jesus said this and Jesus said that etc". No where in these man-made books God seems to address people.
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
I have a difficulty on this subject. If Allah (swt) preserved the Quran in a Tablet form then what about the abrogated verses and the verses which were left out (such as the stoning verse?)
MrGrandDragon 2 years ago
Eisa/Jesus had only a few disciples (not 10s of thousand like with Muhammad (S) & even they left Jesus in difficult time. So original Aramaic bible (Injeel) never existed right after Jesus. The books such as of Mathew Mark Luke John & other 72 conflicting editions & doctrines are fake production of these priests, Paul, & Council of Nicea 325 A.D. In fact Roman Pagans are the most deluded people in mankind history. Simply, their fabricated dogma is like a fictitious tree that has no roots
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
How mny people on this planet remember whole over 72 ed of Bible by heart? Not even a single one. Also it does not make any sense to memorize over 72 confecting editions, one ed says Devil tempted to Jesus & other say GOD tempted-->Ridiculous. Now If u call one QARI of Quran frm North pole & other frm South, one frm USA & 2nd frm Australia & they all will recite same verses of whole Quran --- THE BIGGEST Miracle in universe!
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
Part 3/4
Hafiz/Qari Quran (who memorizes whole Quran by heart) when memorizes Quran, GOD preserves it in "Guarded Tablet" which is right inside the REAL Hafiz. Presently there are 10 Million Hafiz in world. So it is fully protected from the first day. If all the scriptures of world thrown in Ocean; Quran will come back with in a few hrs from the guarded tablet of Qari. Proof: from 1400 yrs, not a single word is changed in Quran
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
Part 1/4
What I am saying here can only be understood by who have in depth true approach in the field of Spirituality, True Muslim SUFI path and Noble Quran. Majority will not understand.
In Quran GOD has repeated many times "I am gatherer, Guard and Protective of this Quran, no any single evil can touch it from any side, it is BOOK that is PRESERVED in GURADED TABLET (Lohe Mafooz). Now we see where is this Guarded Tablet?
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
Part 2/4
In Quran Allah says "O Man I am nearer to you than ur Jugular vein". Jesus said Kingdom of GOD is with in you. In fact Louhe Mahfouz is also with in Kingdom of GOD which is with in man.
All u memorize is not saved in ur memory but in LOHE in ur spirit (real person) Brain memory just uses that saved memory (Modern medical research hs already proved this truth). This is why u will keep ur memory fully as it is even after death
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
How Quran the final testament of GOD is preserved by GOD?
Part 4/4
The people, who hv more sages & the best thinkers of this world, surely know the name of IQBAL. Who said all what I hv said just in one line: "Qaari Nazar Aata heh, Haqeeqat mein Quran" which means, apparently it looks u a Qari, but in fact she/he is a Quran. There are some brain-wise deaf dumb & blind stupid who raise objection on Quran even w/o understanding this GREATEST BOOK OF GOD which is light and wisdom for MUTAQEEZ
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله , اشهد ان محمد رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم.
Ghassan3052006 3 years ago
Oh,oh don't forget the NIV bible of america !!! Ezekiel 23:19-21 about the donkey balls and horse sperm...my favorite
key2understanding 3 years ago
Jesus brought a new covenant. It starts at the book of Matthew. Read it at bible dot com. That is where christianity starts. Jesus does not allowing killing.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
There are thousands of hate messages in the koran. Here are two. Chapter 9 verse 29 and chapter 9 verse 50 both tell muslims to force non muslims to pay protection money ( jizya ) and if they don't pay, then the muslim is allowed to kill them.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
"chapter 9 verse 50 both tell muslims to force non muslims to pay protection money and if they don't pay, then the muslim is allowed to kill them" LIAR! Here is your verse:
"If good befalls thee, it grieves them; but if a misfortune befalls thee, they say, "We took indeed our precautions beforehand," and they turn away rejoicing." Qur'an 9:50
Also, do you have a problem with having to pay taxes? If so, you shouldn't be living in the United States.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Oh you'd like us not to live here huh, then you could put your Mosques anywhere you want eh? And for you to call those quoting the Quran liars shows your in denial...like justifying Mohammeds slave trade and 9-year old wife...we know what the Quran says, as if the current actions of it's followers confirm, what else could you expect from Antichrists?
protestantsep 4 years ago
"Oh you'd like us not to live here huh, then you could put your Mosques anywhere you want eh?" Ahahaha! Um, actually, I was saying that because you seemed to have a problem with a Qur'anic verse that speaks about paying taxes, and I said if you have a problem with paying taxes, you're living in the wrong country.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
No, I'm talking about United Nations Peace Plan adopted from Mulana Muhammed Ali's book entitled The New World Order, a peace plan that is nothing more than an Islamic solution to an Islamic problem (Uprisings, and Jihads, the 'have nots' demanding land or wealth in exchange for peace) i.e. extortion.
protestantsep 4 years ago
Oh and what you said about Prophet Muhammed and his wife: Prophet Muhammad did marry a 9 year old, and he and his wife consummated the marriage AFTER she reached puberty. Puberty is the age that a Muslim -both men and women- are considered to be adults.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
It was culture back then to get married young, and people (including non-Muslims) at the time didn't have a problem with it. The 9 year old was even engaged before that to another man, but the engagement was broken off because the fiancée was a non-Muslim; getting married young was culture back then. Even the Virgin Mary had Jesus when she was around the age of 12...people back then lived shorter lives and got married at younger ages, and this isn't so much the case anymore.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
So marriage of a 9-year old was acceptable back then because of the short life spans? And now that people are living longer they should wait until the girl is of legal age?
Also to compare the immaculate conception by the Holy Spirit to that of justifying the marrying and impregnating of underage girls makes no sense whatsoever, and still seems odd it would try to be justified, maybe the Catholic Priest should try the same thing...'well they did it back then'
protestantsep 4 years ago
It wasn't just because of lifespans, as I told you that a Muslim is considered to be an adult at the age of adolescence.
I think it's the same with Judaism too, which is why they have their barmitzvas at 13- because they're now considered to be adults in the community.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
And you know what? People can use facts and turn it around to make ANYTHING sound twisted. For example, I saw a bumper sticker once reading: "Mary was a un-married, pregnant teenager" ...see how they took the example of such a pious, believing woman and made her sound like a promiscuous slut? See how that is insulting and twisting the facts, even though they claim to be just stating them?
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Now let's put our assumptions aside and look at Prophet Muhammad's wife's point of view, shall we? She loved her husband dearly, and in fact she is the source of many of the hadith (stories of the Prophet Muhammad) that we have today, as she worked to spread the message of Islam for the rest of her life. She spoke of how wonderful of a husband he was, and how much she loved him.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
There are thousands of hate messages in the koran but one person here keeps spamming to try to block out what i say. Chapter 9 verse 29 and chapter 9 verse 50 are just 2 of the messages of hate towards non muslims.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
Credits4Carbon, what are you, kidding me? Have you read all the "hate messages" in the Old Testament? I'd be happy to point out all the ones I have a problem with, if you'd like.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
yeah, do that and for every one verse you find troubling I'll quote 50 from the Quran.
protestantsep 4 years ago
Oh, okay where do I begin? With the unjust verses from the OT about women, or those that call for the killing of just about everything? I guarantee you that OTs violent verses faaaaaaaaar exceed those you'll find in Qur'an, buddy.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
First we know the koran is not perfect as it says all the planets treavel in retrograde, that is counterclockwise. That is a lie. Second, there is a big difference between allah and ALAH. The first one is the same one carved about the entrance to every mosque. The second ALAH is GOD in arabic, the one true GOD. The both sound the same when spoken, but one is evil. I know the koran says in sura chapter 8 verse 5, chapter 9 verse 5 chapter 9 verse 29. Find out how hateful the koran is.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
credits: what in the world are you talking about? It says no such thing! Point out the verse instead of just lying, and then maybe we can discuss it.
As for what you're saying about Qur'an being 'hateful'-I ask you, have you ever read the Old Testament and some of the stuff it says?? I wonder what you think about all of its verses...
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
You can't have the Old Testement without the New...for one was law, the other grace...wherein Islam is still stuck in 'law' and knows nothing about grace or forgiveness, and use violence and terror as this is how Islam was revealed to Mohammed. Big difference.
protestantsep 4 years ago
Oh my gosh, I've read the OT, it's laws are just insaine. Muslim law is NOTHING like those restrictive crazy laws of the OT. We aren't just 'stuck in law', as we have simple rules that make our lives easy. Islam is VERY much about God's love and forgiveness...shows how much you know.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
watch Islam 101 and read the verses quoted there...if you thinks that's love, then I have a big hug for your kind!
protestantsep 4 years ago
"Say: 'O My slaves who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of God, indeed God forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.'" (Quran 39:53)
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
But in order to be forgiven, you must make a journey to Mecca, to the Ka'aba and touch the cornerstone, a black meteorite that removes the sins of Muslims...think of it, a cornerstone capable of removing sins... which is why they rejected the cornerstone
protestantsep 4 years ago
"But in order to be forgiven, you must make a journey to Mecca"...WRONG. All we need to do is sincerely repent to God, and we will be forgiven of our sins. The hajj pilgramage also cleanses us of our sins (so I can understand where you got that idea from), but it isn't necessary for us to do to be forgiven by God. Forgiveness is repentance.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
You weirdo, the Kaaba doesn't remove our sins! It is only GOD Almighty who removes our sins. We only face the kaaba when praying...Jews face the wailing wall, but you don't think when they go visit it and face it during prayer that they're worshipping it, do you?
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Qur'an 2.144 says:
"We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens: now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do."
We simply face it in prayer; it doesn't remove our sins.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
when God decreed the Creation, He pledged to Himself: "My mercy prevails over my wrath."
There are numerous verses in the Qur'an such as this one (71;10), "Seek forgiveness from your Lord. Lo! He is ever-forgiving (if you ask for forgiveness)", and many more where that came from, which emphasize God's love, mercy, and forgiveness for His creation.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes,
from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
Qur'an 60:08
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
There are alot more verses from the Quran posted on YouTube for the big picture...search 'Islam 101 for Americans' then you'll see the truth.
protestantsep 4 years ago
yeah, Islam is real cool with everybody, as long as they 'submit' to Islamic law. We don't bow...take your faith back to the desert, for this land doesn't belong to you nor Washington, but the Master of Life who gives it to his 'chosen ones' the Saints.
protestantsep 4 years ago
Ok you said a few ignorant things here, so let me break it down in parts: "yeah, Islam is real cool with everybody, as long as they 'submit' to Islamic law"...WRONG. Islam can't be forced on anybody. We're supposed to present the message and if they choose to accept it, then that's great. If they don't, that's fine and we should all live in peace.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
In verse 2:256 of the Qur'an; God said "Let there be no compulsion (forcefulness) in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error"
Verse 10:99 goes on to say, "If it had been thy Lord's Will, they would all have believed, all who are on earth! Wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe?"
This, no force is allowed in religion.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Then you said, "We don't bow...take your faith back to the desert, for this land"
LOL first of all, your faith came from the desert too, genius.
Secondly, you may not bow down to God, but Prophet Jesus did, and the Bible even says so: "Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed, 'My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.'" (Matthew 26:39)
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Guess again....my faith began in the garden, a paradise, before the woman was deceived into believing the voice of evil was actually good...you know like Mohammeds wife convincing him that the demon that choked him must of been Gabriel, and thus the fall...isn't it amazing how the stories repeat themselves?
protestantsep 4 years ago
Nope, your faith was made up by men hundreds of years after Jesus was gone.
You wrote "woman was deceived"...don't blame the woman. It was BOTH Adam and Eve, and the both repented, and God forgave them both.
The lies you write about choking have no basis, sorry.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Have you read about the orignial 'revelation' of Mohammed? When he was in a cave? and visited by the angry angel, the story that he relayed to his Wife, who convinced him it was the angel Gabriel? Are you posting for all to see your denial of this story? funny.
protestantsep 4 years ago
Yes, I have read the revelation God sent to Prophet Muhammed. He was in a cave, and angel Gabriel revealed God's word to him.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
yeah, by choking him, using violence and terrorism to force him to recite the message, that God beget not a Son (voice of Antichrist) face it, you need to turn from your delusion, Islam is Antichrist, end of story.
protestantsep 4 years ago
"violence and terrorism"...again from the Old Testament. I guess you don't have a problem with all those violent verses? I wonder why you like turning a blind eye to thise...
Also, how unfortunate that you don't know what your own religion says about antichrist! Don't you know that the antichrist is a man who will come at the end of times that Jesus will murder? Don't you know Prophet Muhammad has passed, and thus cannnot be the antichirst? Do I need to give you a religious history lesson?
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
You probably didn't know that we accept Jesus's validity as messiah, and await his second coming. We're the only other religion to accept him, which is something Christians should actually like.
Christ will come at the end times and kill the antichrist, so that goes to show you exactly who the antichrist is and who he isn't. Get your facts straight.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
wasnt a vers eaten by a goat
wasnt it uhtman who cared about which koran is to use cos at his time there were many of them
wasnt it uhtman who ordered the koran?
(not the first revealded sura is the first one in the koran...)
ustaadh 4 years ago
ustaadh: Qur'an is perfect and the direct word of God. there is nothing about a goat eating anything, you weirdo. stop going to hate-filled websites- they're pure lies.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
You think i am lying about the moon god? you have eyes to see so go and look at the quarter moon god that is above the entrance to every single moaque in the world. HELLO. time to wake up muslims. search for the truth by asking GOD the creator to reveal things to yu that yu need to know. If yu do this with an open and hinest heart, the HOLY SPIRIT will reveal things, maybe in yur sleep when yu are more open.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
credits4carbon: LOL i can't believe you think there's such a thing as a moon god! Nope, there is only One God, who is the creator of us all.
As for what you said about the Holy Spirit: the Holy spirit is actually the Angel Gabriel.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Correction..the Angel Gabriel would not have to use terror or violence to get his message accepted...Mohammed was choked out by this Jinn until he agreed to recite the message of this spirit of Antichrist...that God begets not.
protestantsep 4 years ago
I don't know what lies you're telling again about choking, but it's completely false. And no one should ever use violence to get the message accepted! In verse 2:256 of the Qur'an; God said "Let there be no compulsion (forcefulness) in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error" Verse 10:99 goes on to say, "If it had been thy Lord's Will, they would all have believed, all who are on earth! Wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe?"
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Actually GOD has cured amputees. Poeple have grown feet back that have been cut off in industrial accidents or war zones. The traditional media gets higher ratings when they cover bad news. Almost every news director of a TV station is left wing. If they were practising christians, you would see more miracle reports.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
LOL. Source?
user192021 4 years ago
The qurab is not from GOD. JESUS spoke put about false prophets. You can tell them by their fruits. The muslim religion has over 15,000 hate messages in it. Does that sound like it is from GOD the creator? JESUS warns about the "wild donkey" in the bible which is the root of the muslims. There are no witnesses to GOD acting on behalf of mohammad but many hundreds to GOD acting on JESUS spoken word.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
creditsforcarbon: The Qur'an is indeed from God. Moses, Jesus, and Muhammed were all prophets of God who spoke the truth.
"We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to God in submission." Qur'an 2:136
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
oh you make a difference alright...you call Jesus a liar, for his whole message was that he was the Only begotten of God...even the Old Testement fortold of this Son of God that Islam, like Washington has rejected.
protestantsep 4 years ago
Muslim don't call Jesus a liar at all! I don't know why you like thinking that. Shouldn't you be happy that we believe he only spoke the truth? We believe Jesus is messiah, and we're waiting for his second coming just like you are...you probably didn't know that, did you? We also believe in his immaculate conception from his mother the Virgin Mary, and that he performed miracles by the leave of God Almighty.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
CREDITS4CARBON weres your proof because all that your saying is nothing but a liar moon god ???? When islam teachs use 2 worship allah and only he not 2 gods or three, where you quoting from obviously NOT the quran
alwaysmuslim98 4 years ago
The arabs refer to 2 gods. One is Allah & the other is Alah. One is the moon god that is carved over every entrance to every mosque in the world. The other is the arabic spelling of "God" of abraham, isaac & jacob. The quran is not from GOD the creator of the world. We know this because that book says that all planets travel in retrograde. This is not true so therfore it is not from GOD the creator.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
Dear you should view some of the lectures by Dr. Zakir Naik availabe here and clear your misconceptions and have a better understanding of Islam and your religion.
saeedi69 4 years ago
Don't forget about the three daughters of Allah..yet Muslims get so upset about Christians claiming Gob beget a Son...can't have it both ways.
protestantsep 4 years ago
protestantsep: what in the world are you talking about? there is no such thing as three daughters. God states very clearly that it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a child. He is high above such a thing.
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Seek and you will find...there are three daughters of Allah, I can't recall their exact names but you seek the truth and you will find it....I know, it seemed very contradictory to me as well. Some have said these sura's about the daughters of Allah are called the 'satanic verses'
protestantsep 4 years ago
protestantsep: I KNOW what we Muslims worship, thank you. And there is nothing like you speak of. There's nothing called 'satanic verses'.
I wonder where you're getting all this false information from...
dhikrAllah 4 years ago
Magic (oop I mean religion) is fun and smart! Whoopee!
Why doesn't god ever cure amputees?
My brain hurts.
Dauist34 5 years ago