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  • I find this really creepy, I don't know why! It's quite ghostly and reminds me exorcism

  • RLS

  • My son Timothy is 6 years old and he has RMD. He has rocked since he was 6-9 months and it's been more of a self soother but since he has been in school it has become a disruption in class and he rocks when he doesn't relize it. I never thought anything wrong with it but I have decided since he hasn't grown out of it and people are starting to notice it was time to speak with a pediatric psyciatrist.

  • I was a head banger, surprisingly it is soothing I am 40+ but I remember doing it up until I was 11 teen, 12 teen 13 something like that. . . It's said try not to stop the behavior b/c it makes the child anxiety increase and want to do it all the more, just make sure he/she is safe when they do it

  • What's the latest? My 10 mth old is doing this. He's fine otherwise?

  • Wow, I did this too. I am a parent and none of my kids do it. I had the top bunk and my older bro would get mad at me for doing it and keeping him up. It is soothing. I did it on the pillow or my hands. Makes for a strong neck for the wrestling team lol. I wouldn't worry about it accept the "disorder" that the experts say. He will grow out of it. We all do.

  • My brother used to bang his head on a pillow or rock back and forth on the couch and bang his head on the cushion to get to sleep. He's 25 now and is quite fine but he said it was soothing (he did it right up until at least 6-7 that I can remember).

  • When I was younger, around his age, I would do the EXACT same thing. I would rock my body and bang my head on the wall. I would wake up with bruises. I am 18 now and I still till this day rock myself to sleep. I do not know why either.

  • it gets self controlable as they get older, took me till i was in year 4. Im 33 and still do it when no one is watching and enjoy it, its like a drug believe it or not as they say a comfort. It something do do with anxiety and anxiousness (having a restless personality).

  • I have this i've done it since i was a kid im 16 now and still do it... my parents make in fun of me for it

  • my twin brothers did this as toddlers for a long time. they got on hands and knees and hit tops of heads on headboard. they did it so much they had bald spots on top of their heads. we had a very abusive childhood, and i attributed it to that. mom would make them stay in thier beds till she was good and ready to deal with you.

  • when i was a kid i would head bang all the time...its sorta like rocking yourself to sleep..i still do it now but it’s on a pillow instead of the floor like i did when i was younger...i think its common among premature children, and the body seems to know its threshold of pain to avoid hurting ones self…

  • my husband is a twin and they are 40 years old, my husband bangs his head off his pillow (or moves it from side to side ) and his brother rocks on his hands and knees .... when they were babys the doctor told his mom to put them in helmet when they went to bed...modern medicine hu? I have adapted to his head banging and it even helps me sleep now lol but seriously I hope all works out for you and your son :)

  • Good quality video- Thank you for using a tripod and thanks for sharing.

  • eh i do the same and im 15... Rhythmic Movement Disorder fucking sucks...

  • Maybe your son has been possessed by the devil, don't you think? :P

  • @tiestomon thats really not helpful or funny.

  • Wow, i thought i was the only one who has sleeping problem, cause i am an student who lives in Switzerland and cant get used to the cold, so i drink a bit of wine. Not suggesting that you give your baby wine, but it is certainly not bad if you once in a while give him a controlled dose mixed with milk. Some parents give a bit of rum to their children but that depends entirely on the parents. Also make him listen to more soothing music and keep the room ventilated. Try some asian/chinese medicine

  • Our son too loves music and rocks and bounces on his knee's to music with a good beat (he loves the Prodigy!!) He too is very bright and sociable and has no other medical problems..... seems like there is a link there.

  • Yea when kids do this, its like when we are rocked in a crib, its soothing. I used to do it and I remember feeling a sense of relief. Even now that Iam 25 I dont do it anymore but sometimes still get the urge to do it.

  • I used to headbang as a child as a way to go to sleep and rock back and forth in the car or when I sat down. Im 25 now and I dont do it anymore but I have to rock my self to sleep swinging my leg or something. Look into autism and ADD/ADHD. When I was born, the doctor told my mom that I was born with alot of energy. Im sure I have ADHD so check some of that stuff out. Hopefully I helped somehow

  • My son has always done this since infancy. He is now four and still does this. Does Andrew have any medical problems? I wonder because my son has had a tracheostomy and g-tube. I just wonder if there is any connection. I don't think my son sleeps very well because of this. He is always tired. My son also rocks to music.

  • im 19 and i do something similar to this but its also forward and backwards on my pillow. I find that it relaxs me when im stressed and calms me down. I think the reson I started doing it was when I was a child I was scared of the dark and sleeping on my own this helped me to get my mind off things. it is common within 20% of babies and most grow out of it by age 3

  • My son does something similar to this.. He doesn't necessarily do it at night but he does it when he's tired or needs a nap.. I actually did it too my whole life.. Once I got older and realized it wasn't "normal" i was able to control it and resist the urge to do it. For me (and according to my 3 year old's pediatrician) its a soothing thing.. It helps him wind down.. I know thats what it is for me.. Even to this day, when I am stressed out i sometimes get that same urge.

  • Its taken me a long time to come to terms with what happens in our house at night time,having recently talked to a different paediatrician I am learning to let our son deal with what he does himself - as long as everything is well padded,so he cant hurt himself we dont go to him, he has started to settle himself it takes a while and its hard to listen to. For any parents going through a similar time - hang in there, I think Melatonin helps too x x x

  • I have that but instead of hitting the wall, I hit the matress while I'm laying down

  • It's weird to find other parents who understand what we had been going through for 13 years. Good luck, if I found some information I'll let you know

  • in one hour of sleep. The fatigue caused by the lack of RMD causes him attentional deficit (he also has dyslexia). He does these movements 3 or 4 times every night and they are abour 30 minutes long. When he was 8 years old a person told me that an hypnosis could be a solution because it would re-educate the subconscious. I haven't dares to do yet. The psychriatrist who assists him, advced me to do it myself so I'd understand what my son would go through, and then we decide.

  • My son suffers form head-banging since he was 8 months old. Now he is 13 years and 8 months old abd he still behaves the same way. He puts himself in a position called ''mahometana'', like the doctors say. He moves backward and forward relying on his hands (body-rocking) and then he is upright on his forearms and hits his head on the pillow (head-banging), this causes him nosebleeds. We haven't received answers yet. The doctors performed a polisomnography on him which shows 34 awakenings

  • Thank you for all of the comments. Andrew is almost five and still body rocks. He will rarely headbang. The neurologist said that he does this for comfort. He loves music and sometimes when he hears it he will begin body rocking regardless of where we are.

  • @thesabias My son does the same thing.. Especially with music.. If he hears music he rocks his head side to side and almost zones out. He's 3 years old and is extremely smart, his preschool said he is far more advanced than the classes even 2 ahead of him. He's very social and well adjusted, he just has this one little quirk, which I believe he inherited from me, although he seems to do it more than I did.

  • Thank you, I was so relieved to see there are others out there doing the same as our son. Do you find it gets worse when you are ill?

  • Hi. our son has been rocking and head banging since he was a baby, we have seen a paediatrician, he takes melatonin now but in the last 6 months his head banging has become extreme on all fours but rocks back and fourth and hits his head hard this has caused abrassions and bruises to forehead.... its so distressing, he is nearly 2 and half. we havent had a full nights sleep since he was 5 months old - he moans very loudly too. How is Andy doing? Any advice?

  • I have a 4 year old daughter who rocks in her sleep and hit her head all the time on floors walls. everything. She too started doing this at 6 months old before she could even walk! I have heard so many different things from dr's that i still do not have the answer but i have an appointment at childrens hospital soon .. If i can get any info i will pass it along. I have heard everything from RMD to autism and ADD but i want answers for my baby too! Good luck with your son he is precious!

  • Right Im 19 and I still do something similar, I hope Im bloody not retarded!

  • @R1cz1000 I do it too & I'm coming up 21. Nothing to worry about. See my previous comment (about 6 months ago)

  • @chris666d Thank you, it is good to know that there are many others out there doing this sort of thing!  Do you find it gets worse when you are ill?

  • im 16 and i have somthing like this....not this extrem though, i never thought about it untill today and looked up this video....i always thought i was like the only one...but there is a problem im awak when this happens...is that usuall with this im guessing "desise" and as iv said im 16 and havnt grown out of it! someone respond!!!

  • @JTelli786 oh and iv had it EVERY SINGLE NIGHT and it last for about 30 min to an hour!

  • @JTelli786 when trying to restrain yourself self and sleep normal, if it causes sickness,high sensitivity and palpitations ,anxiety even then its something you dont want to mess with but if you achieve it without the uncomfort then try keeping it up may just be a habit that hasnt been delt with

  • @JTelli786 its associated with psychiatric conditions or mental retardation but can also just be a habit from being in a rocker or held alot and grow out of it ,with me i use to rock bloody violently as a kid , thump my head to sleep with my fist :P or when sleeping on my front would kick my legs ,id do it in half sleep, in deep sleep it would stop but start again when waking up which is what terrorized my girlfriends :P being honest i have dyslexia and at 19 was diagnosed with schizophrenia

  • not sure if there is a link but have a relative whos the same as me in the army and lives a normal life , i to live normalish heh but i wouldnt worrry to much about it there are many that suffer with this disorder , ive been threw everything at current there is no treatment or anything that stops it alhough vodka works heh but would only resort to that if it was the end of the world,

  • @alexg3001 thanks

  • @JTelli786 in 19 and do it to every night for comfort reasons and relaxation and im perfectly fine and healthy its a habbit at this stage nothing to worry about

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  • thank you for posting this, we all need to get this out there, my son is 2 and he hand-bangs, it has gotten so bad the he bruised his nose mouth eyes and chipped his to front teeth! he does his head banging while laying on his stomach. it is very scary. we had to put him in a pack and play to sleep so he is safe, and we had to pad it up! more research needs to be done on this disorder!

  • My daughter is in her late teens and still rocks in her sleep.

  • @Mija98 wow didnt know girls suffered this :D although thinking about it , costs me enough in beds just for myself not alone double the trouble heh would need to be made out of iron

  • i am a teenager with this im 15 but i dont have a bad case of it only happens few times a year

  • My mother lead me to believe that I did this from when I was born. She recently admitted that it started suddenly around the time that she now believes my father began sexually abusing me. I grew out of the headbanging, but never out of the body rocking. It's beginning to wreck some of my joints. I don't want to start any sort of witch hunt, but if it's a possibility... it should be investigated.

  • My son bangs his head when he sleeps and I am trying to find out more about this. Has your son stopped? Did you go to the Doctors ? I have been video taping my son so I can show the doctors. Thanks for sharing it really helps.. I am trying to attach a video of my son

  • It may seem that he is awake, but he is really not. It's night terrors that kids are very much effected by. It's a sleeping disorder, usually happens about 45 minutes after the child goes to sleep. They will get up, do something like rocking and hitting his head. Unfortunately, in my boyfriends case it's jumping from bed and screaming bloody murder as he runs out of the room, through the living room and out the back door. He never usually wakes up until he's outside.

  • My son does this kind of thing all the time. Usually back and forth on all fours though, or thumping his feet. In a high chaiir if he's banging his head against the backrest and I tell him to stop, he immediately goes to thumping his foot against the foot rest. Right now he's thumping his legs on the crib mattress.

  • why are you letting him hit his head. You should put a helmet on him or something!

  • Why is he on the ground..

  • Good thing you put this video up I was beggining to think I just have the gayest mutant power, the ability to do nonstop half ass crunchies which by the way I have been rocking like this for quiet some time with no detrimental effects

  • I've head banged on a pillow since I was very young, nowhere near as violently in the video though. I'm now 20 and don't have to do it to sleep, I can go days without doing so but I find it comforting when I do. I didn't realise that there were many others that do it, I've looked it up before but never seen a video of others. I havn't seen a doctor about it since I was very young and my parents were told it was nothing to worry about. I have a good IQ and havn't suffered any ill effects.

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  • You may want to get Andrew's vestibular/cerebellar system checked

    There is a test called VNG or ENG that would identify areas of the brain that are effected, in turn vestibular therapy can be structured to help him balance activity in the brain.

  • I am a 2nd year medical student and now studying about sleep disorders. your son seems to have a rhythmic movement disoder which is fairly common among kids. These kids can't fall asleep unless they do a certain repetitive motion (like rocking). this can extend into adult life. If your kid bangs his head like this often, it may affect him mentally and intellectually. Have you seen a sleep specialist? I am so sorry that you have to go through this.

  • wow

  • dose he hate the room? is he afraid of the dark? dose he have any brothers or sisters? if he dosent like his room you could try moving him out. he could be doing this cause he is afraid of the dark other then that idk what else it could be or what else it is

  • My son did that once he could sit up--banged his head against the headboard of the crib. He's 38 now, married with a baby and, well, he stopped doing that a long time ago.

  • done it since i was 1 aggressivly too bruses , cuts etc my parents basicly strapped me to the centre and coushined the sides , growing up they tryed diets and alsorts and was told i would grow out of it , im im late 20 and still do it but not so aggressivly if i try to sleep normal i get dizzyness and hypersensitivity, in relationships i used vodka to hide it but cant keep it up for long :S my cousin whos 40s does it and is in the army so isnt serious just dont let him hit his head as can scar

  • I'm 30 years old and like to rock this way and do other repetitive movements, including shaking a body part. It is relaxing and sometimes makes me sleepy.

  • @meldencook yep, same here.. exactly.

  • im 25 and i head roll. had a sleep study done on me last week. with electrides on my head and video camera. didnt do rolling as was in tindy hospital with very restricted movment.. it drives me mad!

  • wow...does this bring back memories...I rocked or banged my head until I was in my early 20's. I banged my head when I was much younger (resulting in nosebleeds) but then it was mostly rocking. I drove college roommates nuts. I did "grow" out of it...

  • My 8 year old boy does the same thing as your little guy here. He also bangs his head up and down on the mattress. Our doctor said not to worry about it unless it was effecting his energy level during the day. We assume it is RMD and that there isn't much to do about it. Sorry I don't know more.

  • wow i thought i was the only one my mother told me i was doing that since i was a baby im 15 now and still doing it but not as intense as this child and not htting the wall =P

  • omg i am 15 too and still doing it i thorght i was the only one coz i was told that i would grow out of it but i never did. at least im not the only one =]

  • Thesabias, if you haven't, join this forum on jacatatio captitis nocturna. It will help you out. I, too, have this disorder and I'm an adult.

  • Very interesting, I have been doing that since I was an infant . Im 18 now and actually helps me when I am stressed out . I thought for the longest time that I was the only one.

  • I've been headbanging all my life....and I'm 19.

    It's Rhythmic Movement Disorder, it's not life threatening unless he headbangs on something hard, like in this video....

    If he does it when he's awake it's supposed to be a way for us (with this "disorder") to ease up, it's relaxing and helps us sleep.

    When he does it when he's asleep, it's because his body is used to rocking, so it's more of a behavioral thing at that point.

  • My brother and i have been doing this since ... forever! Im 18 and hes 21. and still do it. It's comforting and helps me get to sleep.. Or if im stressed i do it. It can be embarrassing when you have a mate staying over or a new boyfriend and start doing it in your sleep but, Its nice to know we are not the only ones :) . Oh and humming aswell, we both do that to music or in our sleep. And we are both fine, nothing to worry about :)

  • From what i've been able to research, around 8% of kids will develop some form of this (banging, rocking, etc). The onset seems to be around when the brain begins development of the rhythmic center and motor skills. Most kids will grow out of it by their early teens but a few (3%) will end up living with it. i'm 30 now and still do it... either to help me fall asleep or just spontaneously in the middle of my sleep, without being aware of it.

  • my 2 year old daughter rocks back and forth When she is sitting on the couch. She started doing this when she was six months old. Right when she was learning how to sit up. Sometime around her second birthday she started rocking back and forth right before she went to sleep at night. She hums or sings sometimes when she rocks. She also bangs her head when she is having a tantrum.

  • My 7 year old son has done this same this since he was born. It's called Rythmic Movement Disorder. Just got into a good nuero this summer and are trying to do what we can to help him. Would love to chat with ANYONE else who has a child that does this. He looks so sweet, Thesabias. Our son is the most amazing boy...sweet, loving and so kind. But night times have not been easy in our home! Hope you're appointment went well!

  • oh i can imagine, when I was living with my mom and brother living in an apartment was fine but when we moved into a house my head banging was so loud it made my whole house wake up,,,but obviously I felt bad but regardless I wouldnt even know I was doing it... It is very soothing when I did it and I felt embarassed tlaking to anyone else about it, my whole family knew but I wasn't embarassed by them. the worst thing you can do is yell at the kid for doing it.

  • For what it's worth, I have been pretty normal, have a family with the 3 beautiful (non-rocking) kids and always thought my rocking was just something "unique"! Most kids stop in their toddler years as well. Good luck and hope everything works out just fine!

  • I was a head banger, head roller and body mover from the time I was a month old until I started my freshman year in college. My parents had me checked out when I was an infant and the doc (back in 1967) said no worries. I did some checking recently and the same answer seems to apply. There is a risk of autism or some other developmental issues, but it seems rare.

  • Thanks ... we are going today. We will post an update later.

  • Did you ever goto the neurologist about it? I'd be interested to know what happened as my parents never cared to take me to the doctor for it.

    Hope all is well!

  • I've done this my entire life but in a forward-backward motion and more commonly lifting my body up and hitting my head straight down on my pillow with my hands under so my head hit the hard parts of my wrist/hand. From what I know it should stop around 4. I still do it once in a while even now at age 22. It's very relaxing - almost euphoric. He doesnt seem to be hurting himself so I wouldn't worry too much.

  • @miyavioresama2354 That's so funny you said that I was talking to my mom about this the other day because I caught myself doing it. I'm 22 also and I've been banging my head since 6 months old. I'd usually do it on the back of my hands until i got tired or if my hands wouldn't start hurting I would bang my foot. It so theraputic almost hypnotizing but I rarely do it anymore.

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