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  • Catalans have never ever been allowed to vote to have an own state so how in the f ... they could have ever decided that they want to form part of Spain or not ?Being ignorant is not reason enough to say that someone wants to be part of something that they have never been allowed to have opinion about! Spain and spanish people who doesn't understand democratia makes me sick! :(

  • @CatalunyaLLiureJa esp es mentira. se ve a simple vista que es espontanea. aunque salen banderitas preconstitucionales.

  • Take a map and see that Catalonia is actually Spain, no matters what a few people try to say or deceive.

    Catalans approved the Spanish Constitution of 1978 by referendum, so Catalonia belongs to Spain just because catalans want it.

    In the last general elections of 2008 the vast majority of the catalans supported non-independist political parties.

    It's ok that Catalonia has disctintive cultural manifestations, but just as other regions of Spain. Catalonia is Spain because catalans want it so.

  • You can't state the Catalans want to be Spaniards since no referendum has been celebrated in such region. If you're so convinced the Catalans don't want their independence, let them organise a referendum and let's see what happens. Democracy works like that my friend ;-)

  • Make a referendum in Stochkolm region if stchkolm villagers want to be a part of Sweden. Stupid right ? We dont need any referendum cause in Catalonia the vast majority of us we feel spanish. Its simply and easy to understand. And by the way, we vote every 4 years our politicians, if you dont know the situation, dont talk.

  • @Hernanbarna Feeling Spanish doesn't mean rejecting independence. It is more and more obvious that Catalan interest differs from Spanish interest. Besides, every 4 years people vote an election manifesto, but not the independence of Catalonia.

  • @raimon1111 Different interests ?? I should remember you that the catalan-economic society is the most interested to reject that independentist ideas. Furthermore, We don't need to vote any referendum of independence because you have the appropiate political parties to vote (ERC for example) if you want the indenpendence, if ERC doesnt get the needed votes its not our problem, dont blame others because we are "anti-democratic". No more cinism.

  • @Hernanbarna Catalan-economic society doesn't think the same as in 1986 because this gap between taxes paid and inverstment received (so-called fiscal deficit). Furthermore, Catalan companies market is not only Spain but the whole world. We do need a referendum because many voters of other parties a part from ERC are independentist as well. In the end, I didn't accuse you to be "anti-democratic". Don't lie, please.

  • By the way, I forgot to say most Basques voted against the Spanish constitution, and still they belong to Spain just because Spanish laws doesn't let them get independent. If I were Spaniard I wouldn't be proud of it.

  • I am afraid you are wrong. I do not know what would be the result now, but what is 100% sure is that the basques in 1978 voted in favor of the constitution.

    69,12% of the basques' votes were in favor of the constitution

    23,54% of the basques' votes rejected the constitution

    5,74% of the basques' votes were blank votes and 1,6% of the Basques' votes were spoiled votes

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  • BE QUIET HOER!!!

  • Que grans sou! Amb 2 collons, si senyor!

    Felicitats desde Castelló y visca Espanya!

  • habla en español que somos españoles!!!!

  • Tampoco eso hombre...

  • Cataluña es españa, por lo tanto el catalan es una lengua española.

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