@sweetcheeks881 Your thinking of the newer ones made by Fender they were two channel amps. All though this 74 Model T has a master volume it don't nearly have enough dirt for most people.
@InvictvsNox This one's not for sale I am however going to start cloning these amps. I have both power and output transformers built to the same spec's as the original. Also found a dude that will make the big ass chassis for this monster like the original!! These amps swing 150 watts with ease and the one's I'm gonna build will be no exception.
@navdave Understandably. I'm at a point in life where I just can't shell out $2.5k for one of these monsters, but I am an electronics engineer and I plan on trying to make these one of the first amps I attempt to build if I can't find a cheap '73-'75 to fix up.
@navdave I just subscribed. Keep us posted with video updates when you begin making them? I want to learn how to do it as well, so if you could possibly make some vids of you building it as well, I'd be extremely appreciative. I might have to even buy a chassis off you from your friend if I begin to do it as well!
@navdave Sold. I'd love to pick one up. Are you going to REALLY clone it, or are you going to make slight changes to the layout and design? My only request is that you keep the input/preamp output scheme the same. Also, the ability to go to 2 ohms, but if you can't find a set of trannys with the same taps, I guess 4 will have to do. Visually, what do you plan on doing? Same shit, minimal and rugged? I'm excited to see/hear this. I'm sure you'll be flooded with orders when it comes out...
@InvictvsNox $2.5k? I have 2 1974 Sunn Model Ts. I bought my first one in a vintage store for $200. Needed a new power cord and tubes but it's been my main amp ever since. Bought a 2nd off of Ebay for $600. If you look around you can find an original for under $1k.
@sixxteenbits for under 1k? you would have to have the luck of a god to find an original model t for that much now. so many people are selling them for the price of a down payment on a car.
@xCYNICOUTCASTx Your best bet at this point would be to build one. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper and if you use a 100 watt OT and power transformer suitable for 4 6l6s/2 6550s (because there's no way in hell you'd use el34s) you could make it cheaper to run and easier to use in public. I was considering at one point making a 5 watt version of this with 1 6v6.
i'm *really* loving the sound! i read from the older posts it has 4x EH6550s and the cab is loaded with 4x swamp thangs, right? so, which guitar are you using? and what about the rat? is it a new one or an older one? does it have the LM opamp or not? i have a '76 ampeg v4 with 4x TAD 6550s but i can't really take all that low end from it..
@nitraus Read the description: Three different distortion pedals played through a 1974 Sunn Model T.
I used My Gretsch Pro Jet for the Rat and G.I. Fuzz pedals and a BC Rich Mocking Bird with the Grunge pedal.
The Rat is a RAT II had it for about 4 years that's all I know. Bought it new from musicians friend. I ain't much for cork sniffin but I know what sounds good glad you dig it bro.
This head sounds great man, I like the Rat pedal tone the best. I love how fender reissued this head with an almost identical circuit to it's red knob dual showman 100 watt....NOTHING like this original you are playing. Hell, if fender can get away with putting a Sunn badge on that monstrosity, I don't see why all these Marshall nerds get all pissed off when I take the logo off a Crate cab and replace it with a Marshall logo! LOL! Rock on dude, F'in killer riffs!
@navdave dude i was playin this exact riff and i was searchin a plethra of doom bands to see where i remembered it from and it's yours!!! glad i finally found it.. it's a killer riff man cheers!
For those bitching about the distortion pedal....for what I had heard of these types of amps was the fact that because their clean sound is so good they are perfect for taking pedals and pedals turn them into absolute monsters.
sound good, what is the cab? ENGL standard?...looking for a good 412 for one of my Sunn Solarus 1969 (KT-88) and Catalinbred SCOD...it's either Mesa(V-30) or the ENGL (V-60)...on my list...or Sunn 412/612/610 if god will let me me get one...lol!
cool, so I guess a Marshall cab with good speakers can make it...I'm using Emi Wizard 16ohm in a 1969 Sunn 2x12 and pushes like a full 4x12 amazing even the bottom is there?!
@chevoton i had a chance to get a sunn 6x12 for 250 but i woulda had to drive for like 4 hours down south.. so i passed it up how i wish i wooda went and got it!!!
yeah 4h is not that bad specially at that price but I don't want to make it worst for you haha.
I know were to get 2 of them in mint condition but 7-8h drive from me...and I will probably do the ride and hang out there since I know the seller already...he just needs to find something to replace those rad beast 1st...but I know one day I will put my 2 Solarus on top of 2 612 in stereo!!! GOD! and later...Model T's! keep looking I see a few of them for sale lately...!
fuckin hell that 1st part of the video is deff the tone i been hunting for 4 ever i flippin LOVE IT!!!!!!!! specially when you kick the ratt in!!!1 BAD ASS!!!!
Mean amp
CobHatecrewNor 8 hours ago
Amazing sound with the Rat!!!
jimmypage2322 3 weeks ago
Brilliant tone, is your Rat equipped with the 308 chip or is it a new edition?
farbrorpuh 4 weeks ago
@farbrorpuh Chip.... hmmm I like Doritos myself. Had it 5 or 6 years made in USA thats all I know.
navdave 2 weeks ago
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LOl i tried to play the same riff with Blackstar HT-5R 5w tube amp :D soundcloud . com/plateau-1-1/wsysysu
i used one pedal to lower down the volume and another for gain after lowing the volume. then all gain up from amp too. bad signal amplified
Keskusrikospoliisi 1 month ago
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Keskusrikospoliisi 1 month ago
Beautiful tone
kalunda100 1 month ago
Jeeeeeeezzzz...dooom on man \m/
anubis1335 1 month ago
@sweetcheeks881 Your thinking of the newer ones made by Fender they were two channel amps. All though this 74 Model T has a master volume it don't nearly have enough dirt for most people.
navdave 2 months ago
Isnt there distortion on the sunn amps?
sweetcheeks881 2 months ago
@sweetcheeks881 Don't think so. They are pretty clean amps until you turn the volume up all the way
Ombrenuit 1 month ago
model-t w/ rat is rather sexy
beverleebarnes 3 months ago
pretty death doomy funeral doom like nice
Fear2Goth 3 months ago
Any dirty pedal will sound good through that Godly beast.
BiblePit 5 months ago
Dude, sounds like Buried At Sea or some shit. That's totally awesome.
ZombicidalMan 7 months ago
i like the sound of the rat the best might have to get one
christslayer666 8 months ago
What are your Rat settings and the amp settings? They sound pretty damn close to Sunn O)))......
metaldefender13 9 months ago 8
@metaldefender13 Tune your ax to B drop A the results will fallow shortly.
navdave 9 months ago 12
God damnit, I would love to buy this thing off you.
InvictvsNox 10 months ago
@InvictvsNox This one's not for sale I am however going to start cloning these amps. I have both power and output transformers built to the same spec's as the original. Also found a dude that will make the big ass chassis for this monster like the original!! These amps swing 150 watts with ease and the one's I'm gonna build will be no exception.
navdave 10 months ago
@navdave Understandably. I'm at a point in life where I just can't shell out $2.5k for one of these monsters, but I am an electronics engineer and I plan on trying to make these one of the first amps I attempt to build if I can't find a cheap '73-'75 to fix up.
Good luck to the both of us.
InvictvsNox 10 months ago
@InvictvsNox The clones I build will be under $1000.00.
navdave 10 months ago
@navdave I just subscribed. Keep us posted with video updates when you begin making them? I want to learn how to do it as well, so if you could possibly make some vids of you building it as well, I'd be extremely appreciative. I might have to even buy a chassis off you from your friend if I begin to do it as well!
InvictvsNox 10 months ago
@navdave i wil buy. ill keep in touch with you. i was gonna have verellen build me one but ill see what pans out with ur clones. badass.
MIGDHORSE 10 months ago
@navdave Sold. I'd love to pick one up. Are you going to REALLY clone it, or are you going to make slight changes to the layout and design? My only request is that you keep the input/preamp output scheme the same. Also, the ability to go to 2 ohms, but if you can't find a set of trannys with the same taps, I guess 4 will have to do. Visually, what do you plan on doing? Same shit, minimal and rugged? I'm excited to see/hear this. I'm sure you'll be flooded with orders when it comes out...
OfEternalDespair 10 months ago
@OfEternalDespair Well believe it or not the one I'm playing in this video Is modified.
So the one's I build will have the same mods as the one in the video.
And yes the OT will have the 2Ω tap.
navdave 10 months ago
@navdave Holler when you're ready to start pumpin' 'em out. I'll shoot you a deposit...
OfEternalDespair 9 months ago
@InvictvsNox $2.5k? I have 2 1974 Sunn Model Ts. I bought my first one in a vintage store for $200. Needed a new power cord and tubes but it's been my main amp ever since. Bought a 2nd off of Ebay for $600. If you look around you can find an original for under $1k.
sixxteenbits 9 months ago
@sixxteenbits for under 1k? you would have to have the luck of a god to find an original model t for that much now. so many people are selling them for the price of a down payment on a car.
xCYNICOUTCASTx 6 months ago
@xCYNICOUTCASTx Your best bet at this point would be to build one. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper and if you use a 100 watt OT and power transformer suitable for 4 6l6s/2 6550s (because there's no way in hell you'd use el34s) you could make it cheaper to run and easier to use in public. I was considering at one point making a 5 watt version of this with 1 6v6.
MeaQuidemCancer 5 months ago
@MeaQuidemCancer Just another project to add to the list. lol.
CyValkarion 5 months ago
i'm *really* loving the sound! i read from the older posts it has 4x EH6550s and the cab is loaded with 4x swamp thangs, right? so, which guitar are you using? and what about the rat? is it a new one or an older one? does it have the LM opamp or not? i have a '76 ampeg v4 with 4x TAD 6550s but i can't really take all that low end from it..
nitraus 1 year ago
@nitraus Read the description: Three different distortion pedals played through a 1974 Sunn Model T.
I used My Gretsch Pro Jet for the Rat and G.I. Fuzz pedals and a BC Rich Mocking Bird with the Grunge pedal.
The Rat is a RAT II had it for about 4 years that's all I know. Bought it new from musicians friend. I ain't much for cork sniffin but I know what sounds good glad you dig it bro.
navdave 1 year ago
I wanna see this with an HM-2!!!
NintendoDevil 1 year ago
good lord. i have a fucking massive boner for that amp
blueguitarist 1 year ago
Cheers and beers brother damn Marshall geeks eff em!
It's in the works I'm going to start making some Sunn Model T clones
under the Navtone banner built to speck redeye to CRUSH!!!!
navdave 1 year ago
This head sounds great man, I like the Rat pedal tone the best. I love how fender reissued this head with an almost identical circuit to it's red knob dual showman 100 watt....NOTHING like this original you are playing. Hell, if fender can get away with putting a Sunn badge on that monstrosity, I don't see why all these Marshall nerds get all pissed off when I take the logo off a Crate cab and replace it with a Marshall logo! LOL! Rock on dude, F'in killer riffs!
Matthewster 1 year ago
sounded like cult of luna
ReamKovalski 1 year ago
@ReamKovalski Funny never listen to any Cult of Luna.... Which riff?
navdave 1 year ago
@navdave i can't name you exactly, but you should listen their 2004 and 2008th albums, they're my favorite.
i think you will like them, they really like making doom riffs.
ReamKovalski 1 year ago
Dude, I'm usually absolutely not a fan of distortion pedals, but this is pretty damn good sounding. Very nice.
Mandskull 1 year ago
@Mandskull Cheers glad you dig!!
navdave 1 year ago
@navdave dude i was playin this exact riff and i was searchin a plethra of doom bands to see where i remembered it from and it's yours!!! glad i finally found it.. it's a killer riff man cheers!
SouthernDoom666 1 year ago
@SouthernDoom666 Oh damn that's cool glad you like them riffs. Their from the doom band I play in San Joaquin Steamers
navdave 1 year ago
For those bitching about the distortion pedal....for what I had heard of these types of amps was the fact that because their clean sound is so good they are perfect for taking pedals and pedals turn them into absolute monsters.
MMZen 1 year ago
Fuck when that distortion kicked in I creamed my pants
Jerdna3 1 year ago
Try it with a boost pedal, you might get that nice meaty overdrive/distortion we all love sunn amps for :D
nihilnoise 1 year ago
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moriondor 1 year ago
@moriondor Yes sir please don't steal its an opening riff for one of my bands songs San Joaquin Steamers.
navdave 1 year ago
That sounds fat!
JakeLaakkonen 1 year ago
0:50 Its...So.....Beautiful.
Jowellzzz 1 year ago
Can you not get any distortion wtthout the pedals??
rorbalzio 1 year ago
@rorbalzio Yes you can but it's a totally vintage sound. If you like a nice metal sound you need a pedal.
navdave 1 year ago
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rorbalzio 1 year ago
sound good, what is the cab? ENGL standard?...looking for a good 412 for one of my Sunn Solarus 1969 (KT-88) and Catalinbred SCOD...it's either Mesa(V-30) or the ENGL (V-60)...on my list...or Sunn 412/612/610 if god will let me me get one...lol!
nice doom riff by the way, I'm a fan! hehe!
chevoton 1 year ago
@chevoton
It's a Marshall 4x12 loaded with Eminence Swamp Thang speakers.
navdave 1 year ago
@navdave
cool, so I guess a Marshall cab with good speakers can make it...I'm using Emi Wizard 16ohm in a 1969 Sunn 2x12 and pushes like a full 4x12 amazing even the bottom is there?!
chevoton 1 year ago
@chevoton i had a chance to get a sunn 6x12 for 250 but i woulda had to drive for like 4 hours down south.. so i passed it up how i wish i wooda went and got it!!!
SouthernDoom666 1 year ago
@SouthernDoom666
yeah 4h is not that bad specially at that price but I don't want to make it worst for you haha.
I know were to get 2 of them in mint condition but 7-8h drive from me...and I will probably do the ride and hang out there since I know the seller already...he just needs to find something to replace those rad beast 1st...but I know one day I will put my 2 Solarus on top of 2 612 in stereo!!! GOD! and later...Model T's! keep looking I see a few of them for sale lately...!
chevoton 1 year ago
@chevoton i'd love to get my hands on a damn model t!!!!... that shit is just sexy!
SouthernDoom666 1 year ago
It's all about the RAT, I say. That thing seems to loooooove most Sunn amps that I play it on. The old Thin Font Green Muff sounds killer too.
deadredeyes 1 year ago
@iorost The reissue head has nothing in comin with the original.
Frankly the reissue head sucks but it could be modded to sound killer.
Don't know what Cathedral used but their tone is great.
navdave 1 year ago
How is it with a Big Muff?
sexnviolence666 1 year ago
How is it with a Big Muff?
sexnviolence666 1 year ago
@sexnviolence666 Never rocked a Big Muff thru it. Should be as good as the Rat but lil bit more fuzzed out.
navdave 1 year ago
Alright, someone tell me where I can buy one of these and for how much?!?!
mcface5531 1 year ago
@mcface5531 Check Ebay their going for around a grand right now. Got this one in 2005 for $350 oh ya baby!
navdave 1 year ago
Best amp ever made, hands down.
213chud 1 year ago
shit man you got way better
right on
nav amps rock
IndeclineKills 1 year ago
Proco all the way. First riff is soooooo dark.
iamthelazerviking 1 year ago
Perfect tone for some pentagram \o/
GroovyGuitar02 1 year ago
i like the sound with the Proco better than the Digitech
billnoceros 1 year ago
@billnoceros What about the G.I. fuzz?
navdave 1 year ago
@navdave i hadn't heard the G.I. when i commented. Better than the Digtech but still not as good as the Rat.
billnoceros 1 year ago
fuckin hell that 1st part of the video is deff the tone i been hunting for 4 ever i flippin LOVE IT!!!!!!!! specially when you kick the ratt in!!!1 BAD ASS!!!!
SouthernDoom666 1 year ago
What are yours speakers?
I try my 90's model T with celestion GT 12 75 and Jensen C12K, it's really sound different.
ptibilly 1 year ago
@ptibilly The cab is loaded with four Eminence Swamp Thang speakers.
The Sunn reissue that Fender made in the 90's is a totally different beast
from input jack to output jack they have nothing in common.
navdave 1 year ago
@navdave are those speakers Squarebacks?
somegrass1987 1 year ago
@somegrass1987
The cab is loaded with four Eminence Swamp Thang speakers.
navdave 1 year ago
sounds a lot "smoother" than the 2nd gens like mine. Probably due to the different tone stack and lack of that god dammed mid switch!
somegrass1987 1 year ago
I've been waiting for this! Amazing dude... I've been trying to find a first gen Model T like this, know anyone who wants to sell one?
somegrass1987 1 year ago
@somegrass1987 This one's for sale after I die. I'm only one year older than this BAD mofo. Been rocking the same EH6550's for almost 5 years now!!
If 6l6's are a hammer 6550's are a sledge hammer!!
navdave 1 year ago