We left with 72 men in our platoon and came back with 19, Believe it or not, you know what killed most of us? Our own rifle. Practically every one of our dead was found with his M16 torn down next to him where he had been trying to fix it.
Our military purchases M4s from colt for $1799, Izhmash sells brand new AK-100 series rifles for $160 USD, You cant tell me its 7x more accurate. AK's are perfect for combat accuracy. War is not static, fire and maneuver is what wins the fight. Better ergo, accuracy, modularity, range and recoil manageability, lethality, and battery of operations means nothing if your weapon malfunctions 15 yards from the enemy.
5.56 fragments only at velocity at or above 2800fps which with a 20'' bbl would be about 180yards, with a 16'' bbl around 120yards and with a 14.5'' 90-100yards, and with a 10'' bbl the muzzle velocity is around 2100fps. 5.45 tumbles at all ranges and all velocities, out of a 8'' bbl 5.45 is 2500fps. In fact the Chinese tested their New rifle round against the 5.45 and 5.56 and found that 5.45 made the worst torso wounds within 90meters.
unless your in the military, AR= "tatiCOOL" wannabe soldier!, rails and flashlights and lasers oh my!, ready for a call of duty black ops mission or whut?? *sarcasm*
ak my favourite 7'62mm the design is over 60 years old. it will be around for as long as people are around. i prefer a gun that works than a gun that is accurate. A.R is awsome no doubt. us weapons are are over engineered and internal mechanisms are too tight. the us made SUPER V ws built with kalashnikovs system. make every mechanism biger and loose. super v is the beast.
i find funny that in america when people hear weapons shooting is beacuse of this but when u hear that in mexico those shoots are actually killing people
Either way if you have a well trained & skilled shooter with either weapon they are both just as deadly. The AK-47 design has not changed much & has been around for decades so I am guessing it has proven its self more than once. Especially since it is widely used world wide. They are both considered medium range rifles. Both are designed for laying down heavy fire in close combat. They both have pros & cons but I believe neither is better or worse than the other. So buy them both! :-)
@ptgoldman The AK design has changed, look up the AEK-971. It fires dime size groupings in FA. MUCH more accurate than the AR system and it uses the similar AK system.
@esh325 Pretty much it is. Internally, it is completely based of the AK and functions like one. The difference is that it has a recoil balancing mechanism that allows for more control in FA. The reason it hasn't been adopted is because it is very expensive to make. But yea, you can put it in the AK family since it stems off of it. They just took the AK design and pretty much perfected it now.
@MRcalibrecincuenta It might have lots of bugs we don't know about it. The Russians haven't said much about it. They seem more likely to adopt the AK-200.
@esh325 Here watch this video and see how accurately this rifle fires (watch?v=gOozMdEV_AU).
Naw apparently it costs a lot of money like the AN94. The Russians have kept a low key on these rifles though, but from the video they function flawlessly. The AEKs groups are just amazing, especially becasue they are fired on FA.
M16=more accurate, ammo weighs less, easier to modify, lighter. Beat the AK47 in real military trials due to ease in general. More complicated and harder to maintain, maybe, but if you want a precision weapon, an m16 is the best.
@sesshomiru30 The Americans said the M16 beat the AK-47 in military trials, and the Russians say the AK-47 beat the M16 in military trials. Who's right?
@TheForceiam ? Are you going to make me guess as to what the fuck you're getting at? I'm not going to step into an ambush because you want to feel bigger in the pants.
"Metal doesn't expand that much" As if it doesn't expand enough to do something. What, exactly, isn't it expanding enough to do? Be as tight fitting as an AR? Add to the performance of the AK? It doesn't expand enough to please your mother? What is it?
@AlmostCommon First of all, if an AR were to decline in accuracy with heat, wouldn't an AK decline in accuracy with heat? Under that sole principle, the AK would go from bad to worse. Yes, it wouldn't jam, but when your already inaccurate weapon becomes more inaccurate, what use is it to you?
@domitrias I don't know what heat does to an AR's accuracy. I would think it would make the tightly fitted parts even tighter, and more likely to jam.
@AlmostCommon Heat causes the metal to expand, so tolerances actually loosen. What causes guns with tight tolerances to become less reliable is carbon build up from powder residue. Why the AR is more subject to this, is the gas impingement system. The thousandths of an inch of carbon buildup causes increased friction, and because the AR has tighter tolerances (not to mention more surface-to-surface contact than AK's). Thus the references of keeping an AR clean.
@AlmostCommon Nope. The heat causes a loss in accuracy--I'm sure the same would happen with an AK. Doesn't really matter with an AK when all you need to do is spray towards your target.
AK= a Fairly decent girl, who you can treat however you want, and she'll be down for doing "it" any time of the night or day and any place, a bit rough, she doesn't really mind.
AR=Smoking sexy girl. BUT you have to treat her perfect. Any neglecting for too long of time, and she's going to dump your ass. However, keep her clean and give her a bit of loving, and above all keep your relationship with her inline and she's down with anything you suggest.
@JohnCTIV let me start by saying the differances between the 5.56 and 5.45 are so small they really dont matter. the 5.45 dose a slightly better job at penetrating hard cover and 5.56 does a slightly better job regarding tissue damage, this of course withing proper velocity limits.im talking about standard ball rounds
@JohnCTIV the 5.45 is lighter on recoil than the 5.56,since its smaller. are you aware that the 5.56 has an extremly hard time getting through any type of cover, even thin mud walls , sheetrock and car doors. are you aware of the relashionship between velocity and damage when it comes to the 556? if your target is to far or your barrel to short the round wont fragment, only yaw in a straight line with no hydrostatic shock. fragentation range for 16in barrel is only 150 meters, 40 meters 8in
@JohnCTIV if i was in the military i would probably use an AR as well, i mean with all the logistics supplys and support that really supports any defects the AR platform may or may not have, for example targets are behind anything thicker than thin mud walls they blow the fuck outa it with the M2 or some other shit.
have you looked into the structure of the 5.45x39.5? its like a perfected version of the 5.56, the standard ball round has an airpocket in the nose and a steel core wrapped in lead
@JohnCTIV i understand how the AR-15 is in general more accuate than the AK-74 due to its physical structure, but i dont think you need a sub sub MOA rifle to be effective in a combat situation. if you fired a AK-74M then you would know how little recoil is produced, its like a pellet gun, i personally think its lighter than an ARs. higher end AK-74s can produce sub MOA grouping, and in my mind that is more than enough for a battle rifle.
I love the AK47 weapon. I personally am a huge aficionado when it comes to firearms and I really love how both these rifles are built. The thing that sets apart the two rifles is the mindsets that they are made with. The M16 (or AR15/M4 or what have you. All essentially the same thing.) are made with the mindset of being the ideal weapon for the ideal situation. The AK's reason for success is that it was made for realistic expectations. Reliably putting through every shot at 400 meters or less.
When you look at the original manufacturing specs, the M-16 is held as slightly more accurate then the AK47, but that is based on 1947 and 1957 specs. With current technology such as chrome moly barrels, optics and other gizmos, both weapons are about eaqualed in that regard. The beauty of both weapon systems is in the customization. Both can be custom built to a users desire, making them very effective weapons. The debate over which is better is stupid. It is a personal choice, nothing more
@WildEyeIV wrong, even today the M-16 is more accurate than the AK-47 because of a flatter shooting tragectrory and not just by a little. however the AK-74 can produce sub MOA grouping and is just as if not more accurate
@runhorun I got mine for about $350 from a pawn shop. It's the classis one (ie wood stock, fixed butt stock). That's a WASR10 which are romanian, but they are common. Don't let the fact that it's not made in Russia throw you off. It's a beautiful weapon no matter how you slice it. But you can find them for a whole variety of prices (which coincides with higher quality generally) but for the most part you can't go wrong with the good ol build.
in this video is not a ak 47... is romak psl romanian sniper rifle or dragunov russian sniper rifle...is the same...that is not a ak 47...sorry for my english
AK-47: High muzzle climb (recoil), inaccurate, low range, low rate of fire, cheap, mid-high damage, reliable, simple, very heavy. Made of wood and metal.
M16: High rate of fire, almost NO recoil, very accurate, mid-weight, mid-price, once jammed due to ball powder, once replaced with original powder didn't jam much, mid-high damage, long. Made up of steel alloy and plastic.
the Ak is much better and much more reliable. its action is piston operated so it doesnt get gummed up with shit like the gas operated AR. Ak for relianility in battle, AR because of all the cool shit you can do, and im american, not a fucking towel head.
Technically no gun won, they both serve different functions and have different purposes in the battlefield. The Kalash more of a close range high caliber machine gun then it is of a rifle, and vise versa with the AR. The AR is precise, accurate, and long ranged (good for long range engagements) while the AK is high powered, spread, and short ranged better for (close range engagements). They cant be really compared because they serve different roles. But personally, I like the AK more, my opinion
The AR/m4's fire 5.56 which dont always kill clean while the Ak is firing a 7.62 which is much more killer. Why not use an ACR which fires I think a 6.46 round.
@blueflame971 Huh? You have that all wrong, the ACR is a 6.8, 5.56x45 and the 7.62x39, (not 7.62x51) because Magpul designed and Bushmaster and Remington both agreed to reproduce and recreate their Magpul Masada, the and the "AK" has different variants like the 47=7.62x39 and 74=5.45x39 what is the 6.46? And IMO the ACR wins...
You don't want to shoot someone 3 times, watching the bullets poof out the back of his shirt, and have him turn around and shoot back. This too has been documented under many occaisions. I've heard of plently of soldiers that are upset with the lack of firepower in the modern bullets, and rightfully so. You don't want to give your enemy the chance to shoot back. A 7.62 bullet hits hard, especially the more modern "hot" rounds.
What most people fail to understand is that a 5.56 bullet, while designed to yaw, will typically only do so under 200-300 yards. After that, the bullet loses too much velocity and simply becomes a knitting needle, just putting a small hole in the target.
These smaller modern bullets can be quite effective, but I've read plenty of times about soldiers forsaking their M4's for AKMs, M14's, etc, that use larger bullets.
@FreakMeat74 Then why are the M4 and M16 variants in such wide use? This is an honest question, as if they seem to lack killing power due to round size, why isn't this changed or at least what is the reasoning behind it?
@Hissanrach I honestly don't know why the M4 is so damn popular to this day. Not only does it have the 5.56, it's notorious for jamming if not properly maintained, just like the M16 is. I think that it's use in the military is based on performance under perfect, "laboratory" setttings, which isn't at all how it is on the battlefield. What the heads of the military say goes, regardless of what the soldiers want.
the M4 is so popular because i can make my M4 just as reliable as a AK and more,even with a DI M4 i would use it in war because you would get a chance somtime to clean your rifle and lube it up also My M4 can shoot multiple rounds including 5.56,7.62x39,7.62x51,5.45x39,22LR,6.8SPR, and a 50 cal slug, the 5.56 round honestly A better war round because i can blow your head off at 500M+ and i can drop a guy easily in 100-300M and my bullet is going to rip out the back of you. :)
The AK-47 is a very reliable gun. However it is such a piece of shit gun in that matter. Yes you can throw it around and bend the barrel back and forth if you wanted but the AK-47 is very inaccurate the barrel has no rifling. Therefore the bullet does not spin.. Also the 5.56 bullets are unneccessarily large. Any bullet will kill. The 223 is favored for hunting because the bullets are small and fast. If you had an AR you can carry twice as much ammo - shoot faster - and be more accurate. AR win
@Wezzzful Where did you get that info? My AK has rifling, and it is accurate. A 5.56mm round is the same diameter as a .223. 7.62mm is the same diameter as .308. An AK is a 7.62mmx39mm. I don't know many people that hunt with .223. .270, .308 or 30/06, but not .223. I'll take a 30 cal any day over a 20 cal.
@Wezzzful You sound soooooo stupid lol. like really. did you get your damn info from a 6 year old on call of duty? sorry zcode. you left that out when you told him the facts lol
I can consistently hit a target at 100 meters at best and im not gonna lie AK are tanks and will last a long time and barely ever jam but chances are youll miss your target when it comes down to it... yeah AK shoots bigger bullet well both rifles are designed to kill humans and a 22LR is big enough to kill a human... so when it means less recoil and flatter flying bullet why not go with a 5.56 or 223? also 5.556 NATO are made to tumble which really tears someone up... AR is over all a better gun
ok 1st of all that aint an AK thats a $350 Romanian made wanna be AK that really is a peice of junk... I had one i know... thats why he is only shooting 10 rounds and the AR keeps firing all 20... The Romanian special he has there doesnt have a double stack magazine only a single stack which holds only 10 rounds and thats the largest clip... second of all the AR is a much much better rifle all around... with my AR i can constiantly hit target ats 500 metera open sights and with my buddies AK
the ak is more reliable, the ar is more accurate and people say the 7.62-39mm inflicts more damage but they both do pretty much the same damage the 7.62-39mm is bigger but traveling slower and the 5.56-45 is smaller and traveling faster the 7.62-39mm will go right through someone the 5.56-45 still can go through someone depending on the barrel twist , thus, a smaller bullet will tumble inflicting more damage
@BadCompany2player96 The smaller round has more penetration, but thats not what is looked for, the fact that a bullet goes straight through someone isn't necessarily a good thing, if it stops in the body, like an AK round, it does more damege.
Stopping power wins, not penetration.
The AK-47 is less accurate granted, but it's more reliable, doesn't need much maintenance, and will almost always drop a target with one round, whereas the 5.56 cal weapons very rarely do.
The smaller 556/223 rounds just don't penetrate, mass tissues which are the primary human components, can create the dynamics of making it 'yaw' violently inside the human body -(that's causing massive destruction on the internal organs) due to it's boattail design. I have seen wounds created by M16 rounds & it's a mess on the exit side.
On reliability, you probably noticed the array of newer AR/M16 variants that are so reliable that most Ops choose them (HK416) for missions.
@AnakNangTupa Still though, whichever way you may really look at it a 7.62 round will do the most damege to the target.
Whatever way you look at it nowadays the M-Series rifles are better than the AK-47, but it was desined in the 40's, the modern, highly upgraded systems in Russian service today, based off the origional still feature the same 7.62x39 round and the same unbeaten reliability, but modernised and improved.
Much like the modern M rifles are just the origional, but vastly improved.
Thanks sarge, as long as my enemy has them, (and inaccurate at that--heard of numerous tales of the Talibans shooting and not connecting lately?).
I will just maintain my M4, HK614, SCAR, SIG556 religiously, install a my chosen scope (from a variety of choices, mind you--while the AK is very limited in places where you could put them), and reach out and touch those enemies---ACCURATELY!
@AnakNangTupa So what are you trying to say exactly?
And you can fit a scope of any kind on to an AK series rifle, or any rifle based off the AK-47, it isn't hard.
And remember, while yes the AK-47 isn't very accurate, the AEK-971 (essentially a modernised 47 currently serving with Russian armed forces), was designed to be accurate under fully automatic fire, so believe me this is accurate.
Bullet ballistic design are factors in stopping power, flight & tissue damage. The AR's 556 boattail ammo design makes it stable in flight, increasing distance, & 'yaws' as it traverse inside a tissue mass, taking out a huge chunk, creating a massive hole as it exits.
While the AK tends to do this, it's less accurate due to it's design flaw that creates unstable barrel 'harmonics', resulting inaccuracy & lesser bullet distance. Advantage is always key in battle-AR wins.
the range and accuracy of the ar15 are no match for the ak47's reliability and stopping power. yeah, you may be able to hit a head with an ar at 500 yards, but thats sniper range anyways. and in skilled hands, the ak is just as accurate as the ar. furthermore, when youre putting dime size holes in a target thats still shooting at you and your ar 15 jams, youre gonna be wishing to god you had an ak47. anyone who thinks an ar15/m16 is better than an ak47 has some serious research to do.
in jungle fighting or close desert I rather have an AK, for long range AR..... If you keep your gun clean and dry use good ammo and mags both should function fine
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We left with 72 men in our platoon and came back with 19, Believe it or not, you know what killed most of us? Our own rifle. Practically every one of our dead was found with his M16 torn down next to him where he had been trying to fix it.
- Marine Corps Rifleman, Vietnam.
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Our military purchases M4s from colt for $1799, Izhmash sells brand new AK-100 series rifles for $160 USD, You cant tell me its 7x more accurate. AK's are perfect for combat accuracy. War is not static, fire and maneuver is what wins the fight. Better ergo, accuracy, modularity, range and recoil manageability, lethality, and battery of operations means nothing if your weapon malfunctions 15 yards from the enemy.
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5.56 fragments only at velocity at or above 2800fps which with a 20'' bbl would be about 180yards, with a 16'' bbl around 120yards and with a 14.5'' 90-100yards, and with a 10'' bbl the muzzle velocity is around 2100fps. 5.45 tumbles at all ranges and all velocities, out of a 8'' bbl 5.45 is 2500fps. In fact the Chinese tested their New rifle round against the 5.45 and 5.56 and found that 5.45 made the worst torso wounds within 90meters.
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the AR15 is a far supirior weapon in every aspect
range, accuracy, ergonomics, recoil managment, modularity..the list goes on
the AK is a crude bullet hose next to the AR
HunterKiller308 2 months ago
unless your in the military, AR= "tatiCOOL" wannabe soldier!, rails and flashlights and lasers oh my!, ready for a call of duty black ops mission or whut?? *sarcasm*
ridemytube247 2 months ago
@ridemytube247 dumb fuck
HunterKiller308 2 months ago
YEAAH
roger10505 3 months ago
The AK is like a baseball bat and the AR is like a knife. Both do what they do really well for different reasons.
grindorblackout1986 3 months ago
aks are beast. fuck ar15s
4everUSNavy 3 months ago
ar dahhhh dat ar will kill yo azz instilly
TheLilztheg 4 months ago
ak my favourite 7'62mm the design is over 60 years old. it will be around for as long as people are around. i prefer a gun that works than a gun that is accurate. A.R is awsome no doubt. us weapons are are over engineered and internal mechanisms are too tight. the us made SUPER V ws built with kalashnikovs system. make every mechanism biger and loose. super v is the beast.
flossy26 4 months ago
Faggots
kalashnikov47mf 4 months ago
important that the shooter did not grow out of the hands of assholes
redneck10ivan 4 months ago
i own both, i like them both, both proved to be great shooting guns but when it comes to equipment ar hands down
oakleysowner 4 months ago
I'll tale an ar over an ak any day.
teckNine2010 4 months ago
2cond Try: "Guns doesn't kill people, CHUCK NORRIS DOES!"
HolzbierProductions 5 months ago
Guns don't kill people. I DO!
HolzbierProductions 5 months ago
@HolzbierProductions Do you go inside a persons body and stops their system from working? No, therefore ammunition kills people.
MRcalibrecincuenta 5 months ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta "MÖÖÖP!" That was a Joke -.-
HolzbierProductions 5 months ago
@HolzbierProductions -_______- so was mine.....
MRcalibrecincuenta 5 months ago
i find funny that in america when people hear weapons shooting is beacuse of this but when u hear that in mexico those shoots are actually killing people
pprq55 5 months ago
Either way if you have a well trained & skilled shooter with either weapon they are both just as deadly. The AK-47 design has not changed much & has been around for decades so I am guessing it has proven its self more than once. Especially since it is widely used world wide. They are both considered medium range rifles. Both are designed for laying down heavy fire in close combat. They both have pros & cons but I believe neither is better or worse than the other. So buy them both! :-)
ptgoldman 5 months ago
@ptgoldman The AK design has changed, look up the AEK-971. It fires dime size groupings in FA. MUCH more accurate than the AR system and it uses the similar AK system.
MRcalibrecincuenta 5 months ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta The AEK-971 is not an AK, it's a completely new rifle based on an AK though. For what ever reason, it hasn't been adopted though.
esh325 5 months ago
@esh325 Pretty much it is. Internally, it is completely based of the AK and functions like one. The difference is that it has a recoil balancing mechanism that allows for more control in FA. The reason it hasn't been adopted is because it is very expensive to make. But yea, you can put it in the AK family since it stems off of it. They just took the AK design and pretty much perfected it now.
MRcalibrecincuenta 5 months ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta It might have lots of bugs we don't know about it. The Russians haven't said much about it. They seem more likely to adopt the AK-200.
esh325 5 months ago
@esh325 Here watch this video and see how accurately this rifle fires (watch?v=gOozMdEV_AU).
Naw apparently it costs a lot of money like the AN94. The Russians have kept a low key on these rifles though, but from the video they function flawlessly. The AEKs groups are just amazing, especially becasue they are fired on FA.
MRcalibrecincuenta 5 months ago
@MRcalibrecincuenta Yeah, it does seem amazingly accurate. It would be cool if they adopted it. They should go back to the 7.62x39.
esh325 5 months ago
bevees and buthead
Gideon359 5 months ago
your sling is way to fucking long looks like u caught some brass from that 47
StephanieNblake 5 months ago
M16=more accurate, ammo weighs less, easier to modify, lighter. Beat the AK47 in real military trials due to ease in general. More complicated and harder to maintain, maybe, but if you want a precision weapon, an m16 is the best.
sesshomiru30 5 months ago
@sesshomiru30 The Americans said the M16 beat the AK-47 in military trials, and the Russians say the AK-47 beat the M16 in military trials. Who's right?
esh325 5 months ago
@esh325 It's like two women judging their own pies in a bake sale...
domitrias 5 months ago
@domitrias Yeah, a good analogy.
esh325 5 months ago
They say the AK's parts aren't as tight fitting as an AR which adds to it's inaccuracy, and it's overall mechanical robustness.
Metal expands when it heats up. The AK should reach it's peak performance during a battle, somewhere where the AR's performance plummets.
AlmostCommon 5 months ago
@AlmostCommon metal doesnt expand that much!
retard
TheForceiam 5 months ago
@TheForceiam ? Are you going to make me guess as to what the fuck you're getting at? I'm not going to step into an ambush because you want to feel bigger in the pants.
"Metal doesn't expand that much" As if it doesn't expand enough to do something. What, exactly, isn't it expanding enough to do? Be as tight fitting as an AR? Add to the performance of the AK? It doesn't expand enough to please your mother? What is it?
AlmostCommon 5 months ago
@AlmostCommon First of all, if an AR were to decline in accuracy with heat, wouldn't an AK decline in accuracy with heat? Under that sole principle, the AK would go from bad to worse. Yes, it wouldn't jam, but when your already inaccurate weapon becomes more inaccurate, what use is it to you?
domitrias 5 months ago
@domitrias I don't know what heat does to an AR's accuracy. I would think it would make the tightly fitted parts even tighter, and more likely to jam.
AlmostCommon 5 months ago
@AlmostCommon Heat causes the metal to expand, so tolerances actually loosen. What causes guns with tight tolerances to become less reliable is carbon build up from powder residue. Why the AR is more subject to this, is the gas impingement system. The thousandths of an inch of carbon buildup causes increased friction, and because the AR has tighter tolerances (not to mention more surface-to-surface contact than AK's). Thus the references of keeping an AR clean.
domitrias 5 months ago
@AlmostCommon Nope. The heat causes a loss in accuracy--I'm sure the same would happen with an AK. Doesn't really matter with an AK when all you need to do is spray towards your target.
Daydroth 5 months ago
@Daydroth an ak is a lot more accurate then u give it credit for
ALEX19066 5 months ago
@ALEX19066 I didn't mean to say it was inaccurate.
Daydroth 5 months ago
Chinese machine against the American machine
marusino 5 months ago
thumbs up if the vid makes ur computer freeze
unchartedfan818 5 months ago
ak 74 a beast it will take what ever you throw at it ....nice vid ive got the lamenated one like in the vid
ally4free1 6 months ago
AK
PlayKikosS 6 months ago
AK= a Fairly decent girl, who you can treat however you want, and she'll be down for doing "it" any time of the night or day and any place, a bit rough, she doesn't really mind.
AR=Smoking sexy girl. BUT you have to treat her perfect. Any neglecting for too long of time, and she's going to dump your ass. However, keep her clean and give her a bit of loving, and above all keep your relationship with her inline and she's down with anything you suggest.
Hope this cleared any differences up.
PivotB3stZ 6 months ago 82
@PivotB3stZ Heh, clever comment.
DiscordChaos 5 months ago
@DiscordChaos Thanks. I can't take full credit though, I can't remember where I found this. But I believe it sums it up about right.
PivotB3stZ 5 months ago
@PivotB3stZ FAMAS a dude who sucks your dick even if it is covered in rust.
royalstarfish17 5 months ago
@royalstarfish17 hahaha :p
PivotB3stZ 5 months ago
@PivotB3stZ
Most people on the internet dont know girls so they may not understand ;)
Olinolan190 5 months ago 17
@Olinolan190 I forget about this. Hahaha
PivotB3stZ 5 months ago
@Olinolan190 Rule #29 is all i have to say.
DrSusan69 2 months ago
@PivotB3stZ also. AK is better up close an personal. AR is better when wanting to go far and beyond.
Skyde67 5 months ago
@PivotB3stZ ar15s are ugly has buttfuck so no it didnt. why take a shitty weapon over a fucking masterpeice
4everUSNavy 3 months ago
@PivotB3stZ You made my day lol...XD
ISRGOMEZ29 3 months ago
@ISRGOMEZ29 haha thanks :P
PivotB3stZ 3 months ago
@PivotB3stZ That's so true.
AnimusPipboy 3 months ago
@PivotB3stZ AR sounds like to much work for some quick fun that you can get from the AK for free. But thats just me talkin.
MultiMatt888 3 months ago
@MultiMatt888 And that's cool man, it just comes down to how you like your women! :D
PivotB3stZ 3 months ago
@MultiMatt888 Maybe, BUT the AK is a bit rougher...different type of girl thank the AR. . It really comes down to which type you like the best.
PivotB3stZ 2 months ago
@MultiMatt888 Nothing about shooting guns is "free".
MrChrisGrieve 2 months ago
Like on war
Gicus94 6 months ago
5.56
SSminow69 6 months ago
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@SSminow69 5.56 sucks 5.45 dick all night long
wotterful 6 months ago
AK 47 defensive
AK 74 offensive
wotterful 6 months ago
@wotterful AK-74u w/ grip
boipinoi604 6 months ago
@boipinoi604
too much black ops
narekjuu 6 months ago
@narekjuu Not enough black ops
boipinoi604 6 months ago
@wotterful Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
radicalyumk 6 months ago
@wotterful Even 5.56 tumbles... it all depends on the twist of the barrel. 1-7, 1-8, 1-9, 1-12 and the weight of the bullet being used.
bohica991 6 months ago
@bohica991 Tumbling has nothing to do with barrel twist rates. It's all about bullet design and velocity.
adobo777 6 months ago
@JohnCTIV let me start by saying the differances between the 5.56 and 5.45 are so small they really dont matter. the 5.45 dose a slightly better job at penetrating hard cover and 5.56 does a slightly better job regarding tissue damage, this of course withing proper velocity limits.im talking about standard ball rounds
MrDarkwolf1995 6 months ago
@MrDarkwolf1995 you dont know shit about the two!!!! the 5.45 tumbles in flesh while the 5.56 passes clean through dumb ass!
renoretards 6 months ago
@JohnCTIV the 5.45 is lighter on recoil than the 5.56,since its smaller. are you aware that the 5.56 has an extremly hard time getting through any type of cover, even thin mud walls , sheetrock and car doors. are you aware of the relashionship between velocity and damage when it comes to the 556? if your target is to far or your barrel to short the round wont fragment, only yaw in a straight line with no hydrostatic shock. fragentation range for 16in barrel is only 150 meters, 40 meters 8in
MrDarkwolf1995 6 months ago
@JohnCTIV if i was in the military i would probably use an AR as well, i mean with all the logistics supplys and support that really supports any defects the AR platform may or may not have, for example targets are behind anything thicker than thin mud walls they blow the fuck outa it with the M2 or some other shit.
have you looked into the structure of the 5.45x39.5? its like a perfected version of the 5.56, the standard ball round has an airpocket in the nose and a steel core wrapped in lead
MrDarkwolf1995 6 months ago
@JohnCTIV i understand how the AR-15 is in general more accuate than the AK-74 due to its physical structure, but i dont think you need a sub sub MOA rifle to be effective in a combat situation. if you fired a AK-74M then you would know how little recoil is produced, its like a pellet gun, i personally think its lighter than an ARs. higher end AK-74s can produce sub MOA grouping, and in my mind that is more than enough for a battle rifle.
MrDarkwolf1995 6 months ago
i over paid for mine,but i had plenty money 600 for Ak-74 which fires the less expensive 5.56 instead of the 7.62 ammo
kalashnikov47mf 6 months ago
@kalashnikov47mf wtf? your confused. the AK-74 fires the 5.45, not the 5.56 or 7.62
its cheaper than both and proforms better than both. i have no fucking idea why its not more popular
MrDarkwolf1995 6 months ago
@MrDarkwolf1995
yea accidentaly typed that haha,and no sir iam not confused,i own one of each thanx for your concern though
kalashnikov47mf 6 months ago
I love the AK47 weapon. I personally am a huge aficionado when it comes to firearms and I really love how both these rifles are built. The thing that sets apart the two rifles is the mindsets that they are made with. The M16 (or AR15/M4 or what have you. All essentially the same thing.) are made with the mindset of being the ideal weapon for the ideal situation. The AK's reason for success is that it was made for realistic expectations. Reliably putting through every shot at 400 meters or less.
allyourbaseman 6 months ago
@allyourbaseman yeah AKs are great but the AK 74s are the cream of the crop, not the 47
MrDarkwolf1995 6 months ago
When you look at the original manufacturing specs, the M-16 is held as slightly more accurate then the AK47, but that is based on 1947 and 1957 specs. With current technology such as chrome moly barrels, optics and other gizmos, both weapons are about eaqualed in that regard. The beauty of both weapon systems is in the customization. Both can be custom built to a users desire, making them very effective weapons. The debate over which is better is stupid. It is a personal choice, nothing more
WildEyeIV 6 months ago
@WildEyeIV wrong, even today the M-16 is more accurate than the AK-47 because of a flatter shooting tragectrory and not just by a little. however the AK-74 can produce sub MOA grouping and is just as if not more accurate
MrDarkwolf1995 6 months ago
@MrDarkwolf1995 Thats exactly what I said.
WildEyeIV 6 months ago
Iam not Russian or an Insurgent,and i own Kalashnikov Type rifles ONLY
kalashnikov47mf 6 months ago
@kalashnikov47mf how much did you pay for an actual Kalishnikov? I want one.
runhorun 6 months ago
@runhorun I got mine for about $350 from a pawn shop. It's the classis one (ie wood stock, fixed butt stock). That's a WASR10 which are romanian, but they are common. Don't let the fact that it's not made in Russia throw you off. It's a beautiful weapon no matter how you slice it. But you can find them for a whole variety of prices (which coincides with higher quality generally) but for the most part you can't go wrong with the good ol build.
allyourbaseman 6 months ago
@runhorun $200-$3000
MrDarkwolf1995 6 months ago
I don't know squat about guns. I just know that my rifle can kill a deer if I hit it on the base of the neck.
trackguy1 7 months ago
@trackguy1 LOL, does deer meat taste good?
runhorun 6 months ago
M16 more Precision than the AK47
MarinesInternational 7 months ago
@MarinesInternational thats true but ak is powerfull m16 not its more precisoin
MrTheVadimpje 7 months ago
@MrTheVadimpje wrong
MrDarkwolf1995 6 months ago
@MrDarkwolf1995 wrong my ass dude if u don't know about it then Stfu
MrTheVadimpje 6 months ago
SKS - Ftw!
AlaskanPotHead 7 months ago
thats not an ak its a dragonuv
thekillshootable 7 months ago
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BigkKinny 7 months ago
@thekillshootable It is it just has a different stock.Dont get your gun knowledge from Combat Arms and COD.Read the description
BigkKinny 7 months ago
@thekillshootable ura fucking loser
cwalktalk 7 months ago
@cwalktalk and you have genital warts
thekillshootable 7 months ago
ar keeps the target better then the ak
jtlaureda 7 months ago
in this video is not a ak 47... is romak psl romanian sniper rifle or dragunov russian sniper rifle...is the same...that is not a ak 47...sorry for my english
jackrusselleko 7 months ago
Both are worthy weapons that have proved their mettle in combat. I just prefer the feel and look of the AR over the AK.
DrDragon63 7 months ago
7.62x39 dumb asses. You get ones chambered in 5.56 but then why get an ak ;)
Rubyredskin 7 months ago
both are good guns for what they are made to do but i would take my ar-15 over an ak-47 any day but that is me
goldmaz23 7 months ago
You know, I love the AK, but i prefer ARs. And was that a custom stock? Or was it a salvaged SVD stock?
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punxsutawneybarney 7 months ago
come on folks, lets keep the likes/dislikes equal!
MrLolman666 7 months ago
AR wins my vote
xxdiamonddudexx1 7 months ago
ak47 is for terrorists >:O
bananasqueek 7 months ago
@bananasqueek its not idiot Terrorists use it because is not expensive and its easy to handel
MrTheVadimpje 7 months ago
@MrTheVadimpje duhh u think im stupid? i know about guns ok? but ak47 is used most by terrorists and stuff thats all i mean
bananasqueek 7 months ago
@bananasqueek thats true
MrTheVadimpje 7 months ago
@MrTheVadimpje
Nope, It's nor "for" anyone it's used by terrorist because it's powerful reliable and plentiful
tubevideoguy762 7 months ago
@tubevideoguy762 haha dude russia is not a terrorist country lol
MrTheVadimpje 7 months ago
@bananasqueek
Are you saying russians are terrorists?
jopeteus 6 months ago
@jopeteus no! i mean the taliban and stuff
bananasqueek 6 months ago
@bananasqueek than terrorists are smart....lol. ak FTW.
runhorun 6 months ago
Personally, I just look at the results of Vietnam to determine that.
Eyeofnelms 7 months ago
Ak47 is my fuckin address bitch
redsoxandme 7 months ago
we cant compare ak-47 and ar-15, but we can compare ar-15 and ak-74
MrEminemTv 7 months ago
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AK-47: High muzzle climb (recoil), inaccurate, low range, low rate of fire, cheap, mid-high damage, reliable, simple, very heavy. Made of wood and metal.
M16: High rate of fire, almost NO recoil, very accurate, mid-weight, mid-price, once jammed due to ball powder, once replaced with original powder didn't jam much, mid-high damage, long. Made up of steel alloy and plastic.
Most upgraded versions:
AK-47=AKMSN
M16=M16A4
If I had to choose, I would pick the M16.
dnlcod3dnl 7 months ago
the Ak is much better and much more reliable. its action is piston operated so it doesnt get gummed up with shit like the gas operated AR. Ak for relianility in battle, AR because of all the cool shit you can do, and im american, not a fucking towel head.
sebastianholmes94 7 months ago
AK47 Anyday.
chinchek 7 months ago
Technically no gun won, they both serve different functions and have different purposes in the battlefield. The Kalash more of a close range high caliber machine gun then it is of a rifle, and vise versa with the AR. The AR is precise, accurate, and long ranged (good for long range engagements) while the AK is high powered, spread, and short ranged better for (close range engagements). They cant be really compared because they serve different roles. But personally, I like the AK more, my opinion
davedavedaveannoy1 7 months ago
AR-15 best
bassplayer1o1 7 months ago
The AR/m4's fire 5.56 which dont always kill clean while the Ak is firing a 7.62 which is much more killer. Why not use an ACR which fires I think a 6.46 round.
blueflame971 7 months ago
@blueflame971 Huh? You have that all wrong, the ACR is a 6.8, 5.56x45 and the 7.62x39, (not 7.62x51) because Magpul designed and Bushmaster and Remington both agreed to reproduce and recreate their Magpul Masada, the and the "AK" has different variants like the 47=7.62x39 and 74=5.45x39 what is the 6.46? And IMO the ACR wins...
IxPURPLExKUSHxTVxI 7 months ago
@IxPURPLExKUSHxTVxI damn you know your guns
blueflame971 7 months ago
Um why are they using toy guns?
drake108100 8 months ago
you dumbass, the ak shoots a 7.62 x 39
TheMistahRed 8 months ago
It's a large magazine, you can imagine that the caliber of bullets is 7.69 mm X 54mm
Henhen972 8 months ago
noob at least try to recognize weapons from mechanism not from handgrip .... this stock can be used at VSS .... before you say idiotish stupidity
Keso12311 8 months ago
It's not an AK but an SVD Dragunov!
Henhen972 8 months ago
uh wrong
coolohman 8 months ago
@Henhen972
The mag is too long, the barrel is too short, the rounds too short. Learn your weapons, dumbass.
BravoOscar100 8 months ago
@Henhen972 You are absolutely wrong thats a kalashnikov stop playing call of duty and join the military
labmonkey398 8 months ago
Hmmm my computer freezed after watchin' this
RockofVengeance 8 months ago
@RockofVengeance Froze.
m1tchellking 8 months ago
You don't want to shoot someone 3 times, watching the bullets poof out the back of his shirt, and have him turn around and shoot back. This too has been documented under many occaisions. I've heard of plently of soldiers that are upset with the lack of firepower in the modern bullets, and rightfully so. You don't want to give your enemy the chance to shoot back. A 7.62 bullet hits hard, especially the more modern "hot" rounds.
FreakMeat74 8 months ago
What most people fail to understand is that a 5.56 bullet, while designed to yaw, will typically only do so under 200-300 yards. After that, the bullet loses too much velocity and simply becomes a knitting needle, just putting a small hole in the target.
These smaller modern bullets can be quite effective, but I've read plenty of times about soldiers forsaking their M4's for AKMs, M14's, etc, that use larger bullets.
Just something to think about.
FreakMeat74 8 months ago
@FreakMeat74 Then why are the M4 and M16 variants in such wide use? This is an honest question, as if they seem to lack killing power due to round size, why isn't this changed or at least what is the reasoning behind it?
Hissanrach 8 months ago
@Hissanrach I honestly don't know why the M4 is so damn popular to this day. Not only does it have the 5.56, it's notorious for jamming if not properly maintained, just like the M16 is. I think that it's use in the military is based on performance under perfect, "laboratory" setttings, which isn't at all how it is on the battlefield. What the heads of the military say goes, regardless of what the soldiers want.
FreakMeat74 7 months ago
@FreakMeat74
the M4 is so popular because i can make my M4 just as reliable as a AK and more,even with a DI M4 i would use it in war because you would get a chance somtime to clean your rifle and lube it up also My M4 can shoot multiple rounds including 5.56,7.62x39,7.62x51,5.45x39,22LR,6.8SPR, and a 50 cal slug, the 5.56 round honestly A better war round because i can blow your head off at 500M+ and i can drop a guy easily in 100-300M and my bullet is going to rip out the back of you. :)
techdeckdude4 7 months ago
ar less recoil more accurate
boozeye66 8 months ago
@manofman888 I meant to say scuicide but the spell checking thing on my I pod touch is retarded
manofman888 8 months ago
Why do terrorist blind fire like idiots oh well they better stick to avionics bombing lol they have like 40/100 percent lol
manofman888 8 months ago
The AK-47 is a very reliable gun. However it is such a piece of shit gun in that matter. Yes you can throw it around and bend the barrel back and forth if you wanted but the AK-47 is very inaccurate the barrel has no rifling. Therefore the bullet does not spin.. Also the 5.56 bullets are unneccessarily large. Any bullet will kill. The 223 is favored for hunting because the bullets are small and fast. If you had an AR you can carry twice as much ammo - shoot faster - and be more accurate. AR win
Wezzzful 8 months ago
@Wezzzful Where did you get that info? My AK has rifling, and it is accurate. A 5.56mm round is the same diameter as a .223. 7.62mm is the same diameter as .308. An AK is a 7.62mmx39mm. I don't know many people that hunt with .223. .270, .308 or 30/06, but not .223. I'll take a 30 cal any day over a 20 cal.
azcodemonkey 8 months ago
@Wezzzful You sound soooooo stupid lol. like really. did you get your damn info from a 6 year old on call of duty? sorry zcode. you left that out when you told him the facts lol
TheFeral0ne 8 months ago
@Wezzzful Ak47 is one of the best rifles in the world what the hell are you talking about?
Carhat778 7 months ago
I can consistently hit a target at 100 meters at best and im not gonna lie AK are tanks and will last a long time and barely ever jam but chances are youll miss your target when it comes down to it... yeah AK shoots bigger bullet well both rifles are designed to kill humans and a 22LR is big enough to kill a human... so when it means less recoil and flatter flying bullet why not go with a 5.56 or 223? also 5.556 NATO are made to tumble which really tears someone up... AR is over all a better gun
IHmattIHmontana 8 months ago
ok 1st of all that aint an AK thats a $350 Romanian made wanna be AK that really is a peice of junk... I had one i know... thats why he is only shooting 10 rounds and the AR keeps firing all 20... The Romanian special he has there doesnt have a double stack magazine only a single stack which holds only 10 rounds and thats the largest clip... second of all the AR is a much much better rifle all around... with my AR i can constiantly hit target ats 500 metera open sights and with my buddies AK
IHmattIHmontana 8 months ago
you gus should probably just man up and see which weapon is superior in a 10 pace duel.
ccrockatt 8 months ago
you do realize "AR" means assault rifle, which is what an AK-47 is... idiot
randomstuffstuidios 8 months ago
@randomstuffstuidios AR actually stands for ArmaLite
Mayes041 8 months ago
@Mayes041 OOOOHHHH..... I didn't realize AR (ArmaLite) was the brand...my bad
randomstuffstuidios 8 months ago
insultive isnt a word
drworm77 8 months ago
The AK-47 is the most reliable gun but is the most un-accurate gun ever! the ar-15 was way more accurate.
CoD3fan2 8 months ago
the ak is more reliable, the ar is more accurate and people say the 7.62-39mm inflicts more damage but they both do pretty much the same damage the 7.62-39mm is bigger but traveling slower and the 5.56-45 is smaller and traveling faster the 7.62-39mm will go right through someone the 5.56-45 still can go through someone depending on the barrel twist , thus, a smaller bullet will tumble inflicting more damage
BadCompany2player96 8 months ago
@BadCompany2player96 The smaller round has more penetration, but thats not what is looked for, the fact that a bullet goes straight through someone isn't necessarily a good thing, if it stops in the body, like an AK round, it does more damege.
Stopping power wins, not penetration.
The AK-47 is less accurate granted, but it's more reliable, doesn't need much maintenance, and will almost always drop a target with one round, whereas the 5.56 cal weapons very rarely do.
SgtShnackendale 8 months ago
@SgtShnackendale
The smaller 556/223 rounds just don't penetrate, mass tissues which are the primary human components, can create the dynamics of making it 'yaw' violently inside the human body -(that's causing massive destruction on the internal organs) due to it's boattail design. I have seen wounds created by M16 rounds & it's a mess on the exit side.
On reliability, you probably noticed the array of newer AR/M16 variants that are so reliable that most Ops choose them (HK416) for missions.
AnakNangTupa 8 months ago
@AnakNangTupa Still though, whichever way you may really look at it a 7.62 round will do the most damege to the target.
Whatever way you look at it nowadays the M-Series rifles are better than the AK-47, but it was desined in the 40's, the modern, highly upgraded systems in Russian service today, based off the origional still feature the same 7.62x39 round and the same unbeaten reliability, but modernised and improved.
Much like the modern M rifles are just the origional, but vastly improved.
SgtShnackendale 8 months ago
@SgtShnackendale
Thanks sarge, as long as my enemy has them, (and inaccurate at that--heard of numerous tales of the Talibans shooting and not connecting lately?).
I will just maintain my M4, HK614, SCAR, SIG556 religiously, install a my chosen scope (from a variety of choices, mind you--while the AK is very limited in places where you could put them), and reach out and touch those enemies---ACCURATELY!
Case in point: Ue_fWMMAQns
AnakNangTupa 8 months ago
@AnakNangTupa So what are you trying to say exactly?
And you can fit a scope of any kind on to an AK series rifle, or any rifle based off the AK-47, it isn't hard.
And remember, while yes the AK-47 isn't very accurate, the AEK-971 (essentially a modernised 47 currently serving with Russian armed forces), was designed to be accurate under fully automatic fire, so believe me this is accurate.
SgtShnackendale 8 months ago
@BadCompany2player96
Bullet ballistic design are factors in stopping power, flight & tissue damage. The AR's 556 boattail ammo design makes it stable in flight, increasing distance, & 'yaws' as it traverse inside a tissue mass, taking out a huge chunk, creating a massive hole as it exits.
While the AK tends to do this, it's less accurate due to it's design flaw that creates unstable barrel 'harmonics', resulting inaccuracy & lesser bullet distance. Advantage is always key in battle-AR wins.
AnakNangTupa 8 months ago
Show the target and we will see which is better.. AR all the way. USA-Russia
gherb66 8 months ago
AK...cheap to make, reliable in the field, dang near indestructible. an excellent design.
dyhanendra 8 months ago
the range and accuracy of the ar15 are no match for the ak47's reliability and stopping power. yeah, you may be able to hit a head with an ar at 500 yards, but thats sniper range anyways. and in skilled hands, the ak is just as accurate as the ar. furthermore, when youre putting dime size holes in a target thats still shooting at you and your ar 15 jams, youre gonna be wishing to god you had an ak47. anyone who thinks an ar15/m16 is better than an ak47 has some serious research to do.
dvnrbrts022 8 months ago
I dont care who won or lost...Ar all the way!!! Ive shot SKS and ak 47 I dont like them as much as a .223 ar!
2066241 8 months ago
Hahah I agree, Ak47's are pretty decent in combat, and the market price is Hella Low!
AndyWantsSugar 8 months ago
wouldnt the recoil from the ak make it hard to keep hitting the target ?
IbanezSlipknot245 8 months ago
in jungle fighting or close desert I rather have an AK, for long range AR..... If you keep your gun clean and dry use good ammo and mags both should function fine
dannywh1972 8 months ago
blegh, a MAK-90
GeetarGuy505 8 months ago