interesting apature,the power out lay is going?or is this for satelites that do not revolve around the Earth?Where by they remain in orbit at 48,000 notical ft and transpound in frequency at 14891?
Several decades ago, I wrote a short letter to Richard Feynman inquiring as to what would happen if you stop a toy gyroscope from rotating on its stand, i.e. it precesses around on its stand. Surprisingly, he actually answered me by sending back my note-diagram with corrections. Answer: If you stop the precession, the gyroscope will drop like a rock ... as it must, by Newtonian physics. No gyroscopic motion can be used for propulsion. All relevant vectors do cancel out.
@DiscipleOfOne1 I understand that just fine that doesn't mean it is a better system or that it really works. The idea is a good one and used to work great; not so much any more. The patent system has become a war and only serves as a means of mutual self destruction.
Idealized version of WHAT concept? Interlaced gyros -OK, great, is that supposed to be unique? Or is there some function you want to do with them?
Put this in operation and any vehicle would be locked into a single line of motion, resisting pitch, yaw or roll. Been done. So what else is this supposed to do?
Think about it, if UFOs do exist perhaps the outer ring of it is a gyroscope which is spinning so fast, to the naked eye it looks as though it is not moving at all! I believe you need 3 gyroscopes working in tandem to defeat gravity & this design just might be the answer? Only thing difference between the gyroscopes shown in this video & my theory is that my gyroscope set up would be powered using electromagnetism! Though don’t quote me on that as im far from being an expert! haha
@actrapide Yes, you are far from being an expert. Nothing about gyroscopes is mysterious to physicists and nothing about them permits any sort of propulsion. A gyroscope doesn't defy gravity when it seemingly balances off center. Its momentum effectively just transfers its weight to the fulcrum.
I know this will make me sound like a complete crack pot lol but I have had this exact device in my head for close on 15 years now! Why..well I was once thinking about what might power a flying saucer (UFO) of all things haha to give it its extreme speed & manoeuvrability! I had one of those eureka moments & it came to me in an instant! A UFOs must be powered by not 1 but 3 gyroscopes which all work together &/or against each other to defeat gravity & gain extreme propulsion in any direction!...
@actrapide Not possible. Just because you don't understand how gyroscopes work doesn't mean physicists (or even moderately educated people, like myself) don't either. Gyroscopes can make an object angularly stable, but can not magically generate either power or propulsion.
@Libertarianist Why r u speaking to me as if im some kinda idiot? You r the shallow minded cretin about here not i, try thinkin outside the box! Gyroscopic forces produced by spinning wheels keep my motor bike upright when i tip it over at speed to go round a corner! The universe is formed by 3 major factors 1: Gravitation force 2: Magnetic force & 3: Gyroscopic force! If a gyroscope can hold something in mid air..what can a combination of of 2,3,4 gyroscopes working in tandem do? Who knows!
@actrapide Physicists know. Even non-physicists who have a rudimentary education in physics (like myself) know. 2 or more perpendicular gyroscopes working in tandem will create resistance to torsion in all axes. It won't generate any propulsion. And your comment about the "3 major factors" of the universe is laughably ignorant. Study physics before trying to argue about it.
@actrapide Without looking up the answers via the internet, please define these terms. Heat, temperature, force, pressure, energy, power, current, voltage, electricity, magnetism, momentum, thrust, leverage, torsion, compression, and tension. These are basic engineering concepts, I can define them all, accurately, and explain the relationships between them. But you think there are 3 forces in the universe gravity, magnetism, and gyroscopic force. HA! A first year physics student knows better.
the concept has merit, (i dont know enough about physics to prove or disprove weather or not the design will work) keep expermenting to figure what it will actually do in an uncontrolled enviroment. Or even in real life for that matter.
@Libertarianist Umm, I never said it could be used for propulsion, i was meaning it could be used to stabilize something. i.e. keep a space shuttle from tumbling when entering atmosphere, or a plane flying straight when going through rough air. etc. etc. etc...
it will stabilize a craft in a frictionless environment but there's a Newtonian law that prevents it from moving anything that you might have overlooked.
how will you stop the resulting magnetic fields from each conducting wire from interfering with the other rotors consequently inside the outer most ring? on top of that you are assuming that the high speed of the rotors also will not create a feed back system upon each other due to their own magnetic fields produced by said magnets attached to the rings. i would advise looking back into the origin of electromagnetic theory before assuming Newtonian physic holds the key to "free" inertial systems
getting a patent for a device means literally nothing in regards to its potential for actually doing what it is claimed to do. Had the patent examiner actually been literate in high school level physics a patent would have never been issued. What you did manage to do a pretty nifty job of is replicating the device from contact. All you need is jodi foster to sign on and you can go explore the galaxy. Pseudo Science is always a terrible idea.
Very nice construction. I have had a similar idea rolling around in my head for years. I way thinking of using magnets or electromagnets for propulsion of the rings. I never thought of fixed ring positions though. I hope you can get a physical model together. Good luck and nice work
@MrBartimous "Uhh didnt jody foster drop through this in contact?"
Just what I was thinking. Yes, it is the same machine design.
This design reminds me of the propulsion and navigation of smoke rings.
After this mechanical design is squared away in a proof-of-concept prototype, the next step will be to build an Optic 3-dimensional Gyroscope using optic fibers.
Can't model with vector analysis? Of course you can. This won't do anything except burn up energy and not want to move. It doesn't convert any of its rotational inertia into a linear motion.
@cdoftx: Will it not precess depending on where you put it on Earth, thereby potentially being capable of grabbing a component of Earth's rotational energy and providing torque for relevant drives? This looks like a very low-revving motor in that sense.
@KhurrumAsif No, the Earth's movement takes place on such large scales that its impact couldn't overcome friction. Think of how spinning one ring would precess.  Then imagine how two rings would precess when combined. Then imagine how adding a third spinning ring would effect the device. With the device embedded in a cube with all axes aligned, the device would precess around two of the cube's opposing vertices; depending on which way the rings are spinning.
@cdoftx Thanks for your response. Thought experiment for your comment: a very large ring / disc (say 100 miles in diameter) spinning at high speed and located at the equator on an axis fixed in the direction of the Earth's rotation. Could this be seen as a precession drive that lets us grab some of Earth's angular momentum energy? Also, if driven actively could this speed up the Earth's spin? Always wondered about gyroscopic phenomena and am glag to find this thread!
@KhurrumAsif True, the Earth puts a torque on a disk in that position so it would move if it could overcome friction.  That could harness the Earth's rotational energy or speed it up or slow it down if it was driven.
I see a balance of gyroscopic forces. This device will certainly provide a stable reference relating to direction relative to a known base point. But how exactly is this propulsion?
So does this mean that any nonsensical device which has never been built can be patented, even when absolutely no logical explanation of the claimed function is provided (or even exists for that matter)? Does a real patent actually exist for this idiocy? Does that mean I could have a patent approved for an unltrasonic quartz-based scrotum-deshriveler which operates by harnessing the universe-permeating shrieks of dying unicorns?
@DoofNoofem Around the turn of the 20th century, the man running the US Patent office said that we may as well close the office. Because... everything that CAN be invented, HAS been invented. That was about 100 years ago. Good thing we kept it open, for all of those foolish patents that would never amount to anything. If history has taught us anything, it should be to never say never, and never say thats "foolish". You never know where or what these foolish ideas may lead to. Seriously.
@jrdaly83 The point is, even if this gyroscopic device IS crap, it may lead to or inspire in someone else another idea that ISN'T crap. Follow? Therefore, it is not "crap".
@kree1964 The point is stupid. This is a guy playing in AutoCad and talking techno-babble. No one seriously interested in science or engineering would use this video as any sort of inspiration.
@jrdaly83 Just because YOU think so, doesnt make it true. Inspiration often comes from the most ridiculous and absurd of places. Often times totally unrelated. Spend a little more time opening up that mind of yours, and a little less time attempting to ridicule others. The only thing "stupid", is people such as yourself who seem to take pride in shooting something down, just for the sake of doing so. Stick that point in your pipe brother...
@kree1964 Ah yes, the oh so typical "open your mind" nonsense. Opening your mind is fine, for trying new foods, traveling to new countries, but when it comes to you investing money in a scam or believing in psuedoscience, an open mind makes you an idiot. There are plenty of legitimate inventors to inspire someone interested in the field, no need for crackpots like this. I shot it down because that is what people do when something is nonsense. Write a research paper and see what I mean.
@miketwo345 actualy if you put energy in a close system you might get a reaction which can manifest as a force, the system is stil close (: input=output :)
@qtxyz You're mixing up thermodynamic systems with free body diagrams. This is a gyroscope, not a piston engine. Did you learn physics from Wikipedia?
@miketwo345 you say & i quote "1. Draw a box around the whole thing. 2. Sum the external forces. 3. Tada! No motion. Thanks Mr. Newton." What if Newtons theory is wrong? As we all now know Einstein's theory of relativity has all but been proved wrong by the LHC in CERN, only a matter of months back! Warp 9 (9x the speed of light) will be possible once we develop the "Gyroscopic" lol warp engine & inertia dampener system! lol So beam me up Scotty!
The patent's description rambles on about how science is confused about the Coriolis effect, and implies that this thing will act as an anti-gravity device, and then does not mention any of this in the claims section, where it really matters, and instead just describes 3 concentric, hollow-cored, brush less motors positioned in orthogonal planes. Nothing new or revolutionary. Mostly just an abuse of the Patent format to add 'legitimacy' to a crackpot idea born out of knowing almost enough.
Won't work. Nice try and many others have tried similar ideas. The mistake you are making is the same one that Sandy Kidd (Google him) made many years ago. The force you get from Gyros is a turning moment, not a linear force that can be used for propulsion.
im just a regular student. nothing much, and i dont even know what this thing can do. but i really want to know will that rings brush with the coils. coz i think it will wear out
As I looked at the beings, I saw four wheels touching the ground beside them, one wheel belonging to each. The wheels sparkled as if made of beryl. All four wheels looked alinke and were made the same; each wheel had a second wheel turning crosswise within it. The beings could move in any of the four directions they faced, without turning as they moved. --Ezekiel 1:15-18 (Christian Bible)
I would think that the conductivity each ring would cause problems, I suppose it could be balanced out but would require that you insulate the conductive parts from allowing any charge to effect its ring. It suppose it could be balanced by the mass for the conductivity, but I doubt you could mill with that kind of precision. Its an interesting concept.
This is complete nonsense and garbage. Its pseudoscientific BS. This device will NOT create any sort of propulsion. This device will NOT be able to "prevent this model from absorbing outside torque".
Vector analysis can EASILY calculate the effects of these gyros, and the effect is useless and trivial.
This ridiculous device does nothing and is quite useless.
What motivates scientifically illiterate people to create this type of junk? Is this an investment scam of some sort?
this is one of the most ineresting mechisms I have ever seen and I would love to see this thing in action. This one clever idea fellows. I am very impressed, good job
..they used similar gyro since MIR Russian space station, and it doesn't do anything else but holding it's "bank" position in space, nice try though....:)
I do not know how this invention works, but to me it still seems impossible to disprove that precessional acceleration is possible.
There is a problem with the conservation of momentum when torque is applied on a wheel with angular velocity.... it is as if spinning matter truly creates an anchor into the backround itself.
You know people, today we say the "vacuum" is filled with energetic particles....
If he uses superconductors instead of copper bindings and spins the device from the outside by pointing a peta-laser for rotation of the rings powered by fusion and utilizes electrostatic barring for stabilization on each side, then you would have a negative gravity field on the inside of the device, a wormhole. no propulsion. A Time Stop Machine/Fountain of Youth/Immortality Machine.
@watchkey The only problem with your theory is currently superconductors need to be cooled, many with liquid nitrogen. If a peta-laser was used it would heat up the superconductors, In otherwords the energy needed not only to power the laser but to cool the laser and the superconductor is far beyond what we will be capable of producing in the near future.(even if they were powered by fusion thats still a lot of energy).
@watchkey just you wait you and your sarcasm. one day we will have perpetual motion machines that revolutionize the way you live and then you wont be laughing anymore. hahaha just kidding I'm not crazy at all!
@hesellsmystuff well, I can concont two applications for this device: with a secondary device either attached to or placed above/below, it can be "possibly" propel the secondary device; OR create a pinpointed location where "gravity exists in a zero-gravity" environment... just came out of mind.
So why is this an improvement over a traditional gyroscope? Angular momentum adds, so it'll have the same effect as a larger gyroscope pointing in a skew direction...
to be clear, I wouldn't use those words to describe the phenomena, but taken loosely they are physically justified statements. With a 90 degree split between all three gyroscopes in his apparatus, the issued force would be a multiple of a canonical vector in a 3D cartesian plan (i.e. v=(1,1,1)). It would go up, but it would also go sideways simultaneously. In other words it would go diagonally. This is assuming the horizontal gyroscope is spinning counter-clockwise.
@theQuestOfHolyGrail if you spin a gyroscope and hang it sideways off of a string such that the whole system forms something of an L shape, the gyroscope WILL "resist" gravity by diverting its influence and begin to spin around the string maintaining the L shape. Since the gyroscope is already generating a force, gravity's force can but alter the already present force. Hence the concept of gyroscopes "escaping" gravity. Also hence the idea of "resisting" change.
Maybe I missed it but how do you get propulsion out of such an apparatus? Until I get an answer of significant information, I would describe this computer animated object to be a complete waste of time. To be more positive, I hope I eat those words.
Ok very good cad drawings and I can see the egual forces applied in apposing direction when you have 2 at 90 degrees but not the third because its at 90 to one but not the other .
@tallblondesexy@tallblondesexy You are right, until the Release of the iPhone4, which DOES have this to work in conjunction with the accelerometer and magnetic compass making it more accurate, just go and look for yourself, WAY more accurate at making a 3D map of the phones movement in space pin-point accurate even long after the GPS signal is lost., Beat that D R O I D
@tallblondesexy You are right, until the Release of the iPhone4, which DOES have this to work in conjunction with the accelerometer and magnetic compass making it more accurate, just go and look for yourself, WAY more accurate at making a 3D map of the phones movement in space pin-point accurate even long after the GPS signal is lost., Beat that D R O I D
Why such expensive materials for counter weights. Were they just an example or are they in contact with anything? I'm just trying to get my head around how it works
@ronmann606 thats a very good point, and that is exactly what is intended. now imagine that ball or mechanism secured or bolted to a ship. that would make that ship a really stable one on rough seas. feel me?
@sanjieev I thought of that as an invention a long time ago so I googled it and it already exists. Although not with this design, but a gyroscope to stabilize a ship.
Three rings of equivalent inertia rotating about a fixed point- Sounds like the gyroscopes used to balance EVERY instrument in space
The gyroscopic effects of rings is the same centered around a common point or not. If they are all connected in a closed- feedback loop, they can be mounted in any orientation respecting the CG of the "vehicle" see Reaction Wheel As for "propulsion", not happening by a long shot. 3d gyros are very difficult to move. This is truly an ANTI-propulsion device.
I think this guy just got fed up with nothing to render on his nice new high dynamic range 3d package, why do all basically useless invention inventors talk at great length about trivial things such as the metal density and the bearing position and the brush less motor design, the sad thing is if the designer had given all 3 axis freedom to move he would have made a nice inertial guidance unit, all that been made in reality is a big gyroscope that will cancel itself out and do... nothing. :(
@foxabilo because no one actually knows the blueprints of things so the fact that this guy goes into depth shows he knows what hes talkin about for ex everyone knows how to use a computer but if it breaks how do u fix it call someone i pressume for the average person but if you you actually know the product then you just saved yourself 2 3 hundred bucks it iterally pays to know haha
This device is the same thing with the one in the movie "Contact". Judie Foster was in that movie and she was going through a worm hole created by this device.
Congratulations on a remarkable demonstration of an almost two hundred year old concept... the gyroscope! Though the 3D modeling is quite effective, the title of the video is misleading, as there is no "propulsive" output in this closed inertial system. As clever as the use of different materials to maintain equal angular momentum at constant speed may be (which may be unique enough to be patentable) there is no way to translate this gyrostat into any sort of propulsion.
Congratulations on a remarkable demonstration of an almost two hundred year old concept... the gyroscope! Though the 3D modeling is quite effective, the title of the video is misleading, as there is no "propulsive" output in this closed inertial system.  As clever as the use of different materials to maintain equal angular momentum at constant speed may be (which may be unique enough to be patentable) there is no way to translate this gyrostat into any sort of propulsion.
To all the idiots on here, read the Bible, Ezekial (God was on a chariot of wheels within wheels) and understand that this concept was introduced to man many years ago. Those who read the past do not make the same mistakes, they learn from it.
I am working on a similiar concept however I am not using electrical Propulsion. Try reading works by Tesla for a hint if your curious.
"...it takes a trajectory of it's own following the path of least resistance"
So it will uncontrollably fly to a random location in the universe where angular momentum is minimal relative to it? Not buying it.
Cant this design be put in a simulated environment (computer) first? It will at least remove the errors that will come out in manufacturing. ie. not being able to machine the thing accurately and having the imperfections throwing off any acutal and meaningful measurements. Cheaper too!
I'm sorry....What? I am impressed with this, unfortunately the narrator did not tell us what this thing can be used for if it even works. It would have been nice if he had showed us a working model doing whatever it is supposed to do. I think you got something there though, I just don't know what it is. Keep up the good work.
Ganidllc - such a beautiful concept you've invented.
@ Dorbie and Phillidapill85 - you seem to be the most rated posters here, yet disturbingly, you refer to his work as 'Anti-Gravity'. Not once during this demonstration did he mention anti-gravity, nor does he use such a phrase in the title.
Ridicule by negative association, I think it's called. What's described here, is the alignment of angular momentum in one direction, to give directed and positive force.
@rdcfrdcf I think Dorbie make more research then you by simply looking a Ganidllc other video IAfnK7-4Mpc where you can clearly see that there are working on a 'Anti-Gravity' device! Quote from the video at 0:33 "yo your getting a little lift".
Great design, man, you may also want to look up Eric Laithwaite:) the gyroscope king in his day, inventor of the Maglev train....which works, dorbie, just go to Tokyo.
Angular momentum & inertia may be seen as 2 separate properties of mass, allowing for a net force, conservation laws notwithstanding......
Now make a small model of it...
hottse 3 weeks ago
very very very and identical
JaxxBat 1 month ago
Looks nice but we can you make it for real and should it work . I dont think.so
MrThamasterdammer 1 month ago
what program did you use to do that?
crafter2u 1 month ago
interesting apature,the power out lay is going?or is this for satelites that do not revolve around the Earth?Where by they remain in orbit at 48,000 notical ft and transpound in frequency at 14891?
zenthyme 2 months ago
Several decades ago, I wrote a short letter to Richard Feynman inquiring as to what would happen if you stop a toy gyroscope from rotating on its stand, i.e. it precesses around on its stand. Surprisingly, he actually answered me by sending back my note-diagram with corrections. Answer: If you stop the precession, the gyroscope will drop like a rock ... as it must, by Newtonian physics. No gyroscopic motion can be used for propulsion. All relevant vectors do cancel out.
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Build it, test it.
yardgnomer 2 months ago
Gyroscope was found in India, 6000BC
pradeepg2cool 2 months ago
How does it propel?
syberraith 2 months ago
Make it first then patent it? Wouldn't making the patent first be jumping the gun a bit?
zcxvasdfqwer1234 3 months ago
how can you get a patent for that
this is so old the space staion has this to lift it into hi-er obit
take it to the next level and then maybe you sould have a valid patent
erihama 3 months ago
" She said she's ok to go " -
SALESPRODUCTIONS 3 months ago
@watchkey :|
ilifeform 3 months ago
@DiscipleOfOne1 I understand that just fine that doesn't mean it is a better system or that it really works. The idea is a good one and used to work great; not so much any more. The patent system has become a war and only serves as a means of mutual self destruction.
wayofthemetal 3 months ago
Idealized version of WHAT concept? Interlaced gyros -OK, great, is that supposed to be unique? Or is there some function you want to do with them?
Put this in operation and any vehicle would be locked into a single line of motion, resisting pitch, yaw or roll. Been done. So what else is this supposed to do?
Bandaloope 3 months ago 2
Think about it, if UFOs do exist perhaps the outer ring of it is a gyroscope which is spinning so fast, to the naked eye it looks as though it is not moving at all! I believe you need 3 gyroscopes working in tandem to defeat gravity & this design just might be the answer? Only thing difference between the gyroscopes shown in this video & my theory is that my gyroscope set up would be powered using electromagnetism! Though don’t quote me on that as im far from being an expert! haha
actrapide 3 months ago
@actrapide Yes, you are far from being an expert. Nothing about gyroscopes is mysterious to physicists and nothing about them permits any sort of propulsion. A gyroscope doesn't defy gravity when it seemingly balances off center. Its momentum effectively just transfers its weight to the fulcrum.
Libertarianist 2 weeks ago
I know this will make me sound like a complete crack pot lol but I have had this exact device in my head for close on 15 years now! Why..well I was once thinking about what might power a flying saucer (UFO) of all things haha to give it its extreme speed & manoeuvrability! I had one of those eureka moments & it came to me in an instant! A UFOs must be powered by not 1 but 3 gyroscopes which all work together &/or against each other to defeat gravity & gain extreme propulsion in any direction!...
actrapide 3 months ago
@actrapide Not possible. Just because you don't understand how gyroscopes work doesn't mean physicists (or even moderately educated people, like myself) don't either. Gyroscopes can make an object angularly stable, but can not magically generate either power or propulsion.
Libertarianist 2 weeks ago
@Libertarianist Why r u speaking to me as if im some kinda idiot? You r the shallow minded cretin about here not i, try thinkin outside the box! Gyroscopic forces produced by spinning wheels keep my motor bike upright when i tip it over at speed to go round a corner! The universe is formed by 3 major factors 1: Gravitation force 2: Magnetic force & 3: Gyroscopic force! If a gyroscope can hold something in mid air..what can a combination of of 2,3,4 gyroscopes working in tandem do? Who knows!
actrapide 2 weeks ago
@actrapide Physicists know. Even non-physicists who have a rudimentary education in physics (like myself) know. 2 or more perpendicular gyroscopes working in tandem will create resistance to torsion in all axes. It won't generate any propulsion. And your comment about the "3 major factors" of the universe is laughably ignorant. Study physics before trying to argue about it.
Libertarianist 2 weeks ago
@actrapide Without looking up the answers via the internet, please define these terms. Heat, temperature, force, pressure, energy, power, current, voltage, electricity, magnetism, momentum, thrust, leverage, torsion, compression, and tension. These are basic engineering concepts, I can define them all, accurately, and explain the relationships between them. But you think there are 3 forces in the universe gravity, magnetism, and gyroscopic force. HA! A first year physics student knows better.
Libertarianist 2 weeks ago
the concept has merit, (i dont know enough about physics to prove or disprove weather or not the design will work) keep expermenting to figure what it will actually do in an uncontrolled enviroment. Or even in real life for that matter.
aaronissaccfranz 4 months ago
@aaronissaccfranz It can't be used to generate propulsion, sorry.
Libertarianist 2 weeks ago
@Libertarianist Umm, I never said it could be used for propulsion, i was meaning it could be used to stabilize something. i.e. keep a space shuttle from tumbling when entering atmosphere, or a plane flying straight when going through rough air. etc. etc. etc...
aaronissaccfranz 2 weeks ago
Where are you suppose to sit in this thing? ;)
ozcabal 4 months ago
patents hold humanity back
wayofthemetal 4 months ago
Congratulations, you have welded three gyroscopes together and have made an apparatus that is very stable.
ObiTrev 4 months ago
So, what happened to it?
infinitree 5 months ago
it will stabilize a craft in a frictionless environment but there's a Newtonian law that prevents it from moving anything that you might have overlooked.
TheC1c2c3c4c 5 months ago
how will you stop the resulting magnetic fields from each conducting wire from interfering with the other rotors consequently inside the outer most ring? on top of that you are assuming that the high speed of the rotors also will not create a feed back system upon each other due to their own magnetic fields produced by said magnets attached to the rings. i would advise looking back into the origin of electromagnetic theory before assuming Newtonian physic holds the key to "free" inertial systems
zizn8r 5 months ago
getting a patent for a device means literally nothing in regards to its potential for actually doing what it is claimed to do. Had the patent examiner actually been literate in high school level physics a patent would have never been issued. What you did manage to do a pretty nifty job of is replicating the device from contact. All you need is jodi foster to sign on and you can go explore the galaxy. Pseudo Science is always a terrible idea.
SpecialEdAllstar 5 months ago
how do you cool it due to friction?
ElGoonisShive 5 months ago
"a wheel within a wheel.."
landshark501 5 months ago
ok i missed the magnets
SomeReefer 5 months ago
Very nice construction. I have had a similar idea rolling around in my head for years. I way thinking of using magnets or electromagnets for propulsion of the rings. I never thought of fixed ring positions though. I hope you can get a physical model together. Good luck and nice work
SomeReefer 5 months ago
Uhh didnt jody foster drop through this in contact?
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@MrBartimous "Uhh didnt jody foster drop through this in contact?"
Just what I was thinking. Yes, it is the same machine design.
This design reminds me of the propulsion and navigation of smoke rings.
After this mechanical design is squared away in a proof-of-concept prototype, the next step will be to build an Optic 3-dimensional Gyroscope using optic fibers.
DancingSpiderman 5 months ago
@MrBartimous on a larger scale with a supporting frame and it could be so.
ctchreport 3 months ago
269 people knew nothing about physics.
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imd12c4advice 5 months ago
Can't model with vector analysis? Of course you can. This won't do anything except burn up energy and not want to move. It doesn't convert any of its rotational inertia into a linear motion.
cdoftx 7 months ago
@cdoftx: Will it not precess depending on where you put it on Earth, thereby potentially being capable of grabbing a component of Earth's rotational energy and providing torque for relevant drives? This looks like a very low-revving motor in that sense.
KhurrumAsif 6 months ago
@KhurrumAsif No, the Earth's movement takes place on such large scales that its impact couldn't overcome friction. Think of how spinning one ring would precess.  Then imagine how two rings would precess when combined. Then imagine how adding a third spinning ring would effect the device. With the device embedded in a cube with all axes aligned, the device would precess around two of the cube's opposing vertices; depending on which way the rings are spinning.
cdoftx 6 months ago
@cdoftx Thanks for your response. Thought experiment for your comment: a very large ring / disc (say 100 miles in diameter) spinning at high speed and located at the equator on an axis fixed in the direction of the Earth's rotation. Could this be seen as a precession drive that lets us grab some of Earth's angular momentum energy? Also, if driven actively could this speed up the Earth's spin? Always wondered about gyroscopic phenomena and am glag to find this thread!
KhurrumAsif 6 months ago
@KhurrumAsif True, the Earth puts a torque on a disk in that position so it would move if it could overcome friction.  That could harness the Earth's rotational energy or speed it up or slow it down if it was driven.
cdoftx 6 months ago
I see a balance of gyroscopic forces. This device will certainly provide a stable reference relating to direction relative to a known base point. But how exactly is this propulsion?
Cadmandu2000 7 months ago
Can't we all just get along?
DoofNoofem 7 months ago
let's see the prototype in action
txsray1 7 months ago
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DoofNoofem 7 months ago
Ever seen the film 'Contact? Coincidence - I think not! 
kent0n 7 months ago 2
So does this mean that any nonsensical device which has never been built can be patented, even when absolutely no logical explanation of the claimed function is provided (or even exists for that matter)? Does a real patent actually exist for this idiocy? Does that mean I could have a patent approved for an unltrasonic quartz-based scrotum-deshriveler which operates by harnessing the universe-permeating shrieks of dying unicorns?
DoofNoofem 7 months ago
@DoofNoofem Around the turn of the 20th century, the man running the US Patent office said that we may as well close the office. Because... everything that CAN be invented, HAS been invented. That was about 100 years ago. Good thing we kept it open, for all of those foolish patents that would never amount to anything. If history has taught us anything, it should be to never say never, and never say thats "foolish". You never know where or what these foolish ideas may lead to. Seriously.
kree1964 7 months ago 2
@kree1964 Who cares? This is still crap.
jrdaly83 7 months ago
@jrdaly83 The point is, even if this gyroscopic device IS crap, it may lead to or inspire in someone else another idea that ISN'T crap. Follow? Therefore, it is not "crap".
kree1964 7 months ago 3
@kree1964 The point is stupid. This is a guy playing in AutoCad and talking techno-babble. No one seriously interested in science or engineering would use this video as any sort of inspiration.
jrdaly83 7 months ago
@jrdaly83 Just because YOU think so, doesnt make it true. Inspiration often comes from the most ridiculous and absurd of places. Often times totally unrelated. Spend a little more time opening up that mind of yours, and a little less time attempting to ridicule others. The only thing "stupid", is people such as yourself who seem to take pride in shooting something down, just for the sake of doing so. Stick that point in your pipe brother...
kree1964 7 months ago
@kree1964 Ah yes, the oh so typical "open your mind" nonsense. Opening your mind is fine, for trying new foods, traveling to new countries, but when it comes to you investing money in a scam or believing in psuedoscience, an open mind makes you an idiot. There are plenty of legitimate inventors to inspire someone interested in the field, no need for crackpots like this. I shot it down because that is what people do when something is nonsense. Write a research paper and see what I mean.
jrdaly83 7 months ago
@DoofNoofem Yep. Pretty much :DDDDDDD
runbabyrun001 6 months ago
@DoofNoofem did you read the patent? It's well thought out imho.
KhurrumAsif 6 months ago
Mke one thant tallk!
GE24Tony 8 months ago
It's bollocks. Gyros produce a moment not a force. Big difference.
sorova 8 months ago
does it glow?
heligenix 8 months ago
1. Draw a box around the whole thing.
2. Sum the external forces.
3. Tada! No motion. Thanks Mr. Newton.
miketwo345 8 months ago 21
@miketwo345
sit on an office chair with wheels, shuffle forward.
Tada! Motion. Thanks Mr.Newton.
didaloca 2 months ago
@didaloca You don't understand the difference, do you?
Here's a hint: When you shuffle around in an office chair, the building doesn't move.
(If you really don't understand, I'd be happy to explain it over email.)
miketwo345 2 months ago
@miketwo345 actualy if you put energy in a close system you might get a reaction which can manifest as a force, the system is stil close (: input=output :)
qtxyz 1 month ago
@qtxyz You're mixing up thermodynamic systems with free body diagrams. This is a gyroscope, not a piston engine. Did you learn physics from Wikipedia?
miketwo345 1 month ago
@miketwo345 who limited your mind to a constant output ?
qtxyz 1 month ago
@miketwo345 gravity ? =O
h3ll022 3 weeks ago
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@miketwo345 you say & i quote "1. Draw a box around the whole thing. 2. Sum the external forces. 3. Tada! No motion. Thanks Mr. Newton." What if Newtons theory is wrong? As we all now know Einstein's theory of relativity has all but been proved wrong by the LHC in CERN, only a matter of months back! Warp 9 (9x the speed of light) will be possible once we develop the "Gyroscopic" lol warp engine & inertia dampener system! lol So beam me up Scotty!
actrapide 2 weeks ago
The patent's description rambles on about how science is confused about the Coriolis effect, and implies that this thing will act as an anti-gravity device, and then does not mention any of this in the claims section, where it really matters, and instead just describes 3 concentric, hollow-cored, brush less motors positioned in orthogonal planes. Nothing new or revolutionary. Mostly just an abuse of the Patent format to add 'legitimacy' to a crackpot idea born out of knowing almost enough.
eugenerk 8 months ago
Won't work. Nice try and many others have tried similar ideas. The mistake you are making is the same one that Sandy Kidd (Google him) made many years ago. The force you get from Gyros is a turning moment, not a linear force that can be used for propulsion.
sorova 8 months ago
@ganidllc Is that Autodesk Inventor?
Lite619 8 months ago
the three rings?
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
crimsloch 8 months ago 3
It's just like the alien machine from contact:)
SenemmTSR 8 months ago
So, WTH is it for? What does it do?
MegatronAngel 9 months ago
im just a regular student. nothing much, and i dont even know what this thing can do. but i really want to know will that rings brush with the coils. coz i think it will wear out
de0509 9 months ago
BORED NOW!
Itsmeeman1 9 months ago
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As I looked at the beings, I saw four wheels touching the ground beside them, one wheel belonging to each. The wheels sparkled as if made of beryl. All four wheels looked alinke and were made the same; each wheel had a second wheel turning crosswise within it. The beings could move in any of the four directions they faced, without turning as they moved. --Ezekiel 1:15-18 (Christian Bible)
bnewton81 9 months ago
Slapchop.

Greenballed 9 months ago
You can materialize it with a 3D printer now... to metal plastic or glass :D
nogravity60 9 months ago
build a real one k tkz bye
Typho0n86 9 months ago
@Typho0n86 Wouldn't be hard to, using a rapid prototyping maching. AKA a 3d printer.
forrest225 9 months ago
I would think that the conductivity each ring would cause problems, I suppose it could be balanced out but would require that you insulate the conductive parts from allowing any charge to effect its ring. It suppose it could be balanced by the mass for the conductivity, but I doubt you could mill with that kind of precision. Its an interesting concept.
Sliver1978 9 months ago
This is complete nonsense and garbage. Its pseudoscientific BS. This device will NOT create any sort of propulsion. This device will NOT be able to "prevent this model from absorbing outside torque".
Vector analysis can EASILY calculate the effects of these gyros, and the effect is useless and trivial.
This ridiculous device does nothing and is quite useless.
What motivates scientifically illiterate people to create this type of junk? Is this an investment scam of some sort?
dodanimal 9 months ago
Cool, but what does it do?
cachibache777 9 months ago
I can see you're using Inventor by the reflection in the chromesurface, the famous black car in a parkinglot ;) Good Choice!
Smiding 10 months ago
Looks like a miniature version of the machine from the movie "Contact". Did you get the plans from aliens?
shniku 10 months ago
this look like the contact movie machine
0000000NoName0000000 10 months ago
Could you not just make all the rings out of the same material and just alter the rpm of each one untill the three forces balance?
doo0T 10 months ago
@doo0T equal mass its easier this way.
mockhazzard 10 months ago
How the fuck is this supposed to generate any kind of momentum in a single direction?
elatus 10 months ago 2
@elatus It doen't generate any kind of linear momentum. This device travels in a circular path, ie. angular momentum is involved.
supercreamysperm 9 months ago
I work on satellites, and this is bs.
Please stop. You're making actual scientists look bad.
miketwo345 10 months ago 5
@miketwo345 well, according to the history channel, it does work if you were to add mercury.
ThatGuyOverThere428 10 months ago
@miketwo345 No I think you are.
mastershake0505 10 months ago
its been 3 years, where's the prototypes yo ?
firuinthehouse 10 months ago
this is one of the most ineresting mechisms I have ever seen and I would love to see this thing in action. This one clever idea fellows. I am very impressed, good job
nrgjunky1 11 months ago
PLEASE TELL US WHAT IT DOES. Thank you.
scottgdietz 11 months ago
apparently a modification of the "Dean Drive".
dynagravitomagnetic 11 months ago
You invented a 3D model of it? That is retarded, the whole point is to create a real one -_-
sirlinkyalot 11 months ago
..they used similar gyro since MIR Russian space station, and it doesn't do anything else but holding it's "bank" position in space, nice try though....:)
Kimre73 11 months ago
I do not know how this invention works, but to me it still seems impossible to disprove that precessional acceleration is possible.
There is a problem with the conservation of momentum when torque is applied on a wheel with angular velocity.... it is as if spinning matter truly creates an anchor into the backround itself.
You know people, today we say the "vacuum" is filled with energetic particles....
and for some reason, all our planets spin ; )
Nabo00o 11 months ago
weels uppon weels.. just like in the bible..
SIGURDXD 1 year ago
@SIGURDXD Yes, and just like the bible... it doesn't work!
from212 11 months ago
It's a gyro!
theantiredneck 1 year ago
STAR DRIVE i thought of this 40 years ago so the idea has been floating around for longer than that good luck
. you tube stinks to day for posts.have to post when at night when not so much trafic
fredheidrick 1 year ago
What would this be used for? Essentially you have just created a ball that has a much harder time being moved by and outside force. PEACE x_X
picklesnorf101 1 year ago
so what does it do ?!
gomunkul 1 year ago
this capacitor has a power of over nine thousand !!!!
lordcapucino 1 year ago
the comments are funnier than the vid...
knytebyte 1 year ago
this was invented in 1903...
michelXShawn 1 year ago
If he uses superconductors instead of copper bindings and spins the device from the outside by pointing a peta-laser for rotation of the rings powered by fusion and utilizes electrostatic barring for stabilization on each side, then you would have a negative gravity field on the inside of the device, a wormhole. no propulsion. A Time Stop Machine/Fountain of Youth/Immortality Machine.
watchkey 1 year ago 30
@watchkey The only problem with your theory is currently superconductors need to be cooled, many with liquid nitrogen. If a peta-laser was used it would heat up the superconductors, In otherwords the energy needed not only to power the laser but to cool the laser and the superconductor is far beyond what we will be capable of producing in the near future.(even if they were powered by fusion thats still a lot of energy).
rbneville 8 months ago
@watchkey just you wait you and your sarcasm. one day we will have perpetual motion machines that revolutionize the way you live and then you wont be laughing anymore. hahaha just kidding I'm not crazy at all!
twizelby 8 months ago
@watchkey mind fuck....
simple it up?
i feel like this is possible to make and your outcome is not possible?
Cliffordburleson 7 months ago
@watchkey I don't know WHAT the heck that means...
Aeleita1 4 months ago
@watchkey is this a joke or a fact? 
hulago1234 3 months ago
Ok - but one GLARINGLY obvious flaw with this video and the concept itself.
Does it serve any practical purpose whatsoever and/or hope to serve any practical purpose whatsoever ?
Or is this yet another egghead phd grant proposal snow job ?
As in - look at me I made a shiny spinny thing - isn't it cool ?
Ok - but what does it do ?
hesellsmystuff 1 year ago
@hesellsmystuff who said he is a PhD?
I can tell you by the way he is describing this "invention" he has no PhD
trentcreek 1 year ago
@hesellsmystuff well, I can concont two applications for this device: with a secondary device either attached to or placed above/below, it can be "possibly" propel the secondary device; OR create a pinpointed location where "gravity exists in a zero-gravity" environment... just came out of mind.
zerocoolojoia 11 months ago
So why is this an improvement over a traditional gyroscope? Angular momentum adds, so it'll have the same effect as a larger gyroscope pointing in a skew direction...
sivart771 1 year ago
now he just needs jodie foster to come and sit on it
stokes58 1 year ago 5
So, which direction is it supposed to go?
ObserverOfPakleds 1 year ago
So, is it a gyroscope.
guzguz21 1 year ago
@guzguz21 no, its a failoscope
tazbo28 1 year ago
Did he say Motion Feedback Loop???
andyinvietnam 1 year ago
...what a fail...
All that would happen is the gyroscopes would stay still, that is what physics dictates.
mckseal 1 year ago
Whats that software?
wsanriv 1 year ago
@wsanriv looks like Solidworks
andyinvietnam 1 year ago
@andyinvietnam I was thinking Inventor
hosswildcat 1 year ago
@andyinvietnam It's Inventor...you can tell by the reflections in the rendered rings near the end. Should be Inventor V8 or 9.
hosswildcat 1 year ago
to be clear, I wouldn't use those words to describe the phenomena, but taken loosely they are physically justified statements. With a 90 degree split between all three gyroscopes in his apparatus, the issued force would be a multiple of a canonical vector in a 3D cartesian plan (i.e. v=(1,1,1)). It would go up, but it would also go sideways simultaneously. In other words it would go diagonally. This is assuming the horizontal gyroscope is spinning counter-clockwise.
heikkiel 1 year ago
@theQuestOfHolyGrail if you spin a gyroscope and hang it sideways off of a string such that the whole system forms something of an L shape, the gyroscope WILL "resist" gravity by diverting its influence and begin to spin around the string maintaining the L shape. Since the gyroscope is already generating a force, gravity's force can but alter the already present force. Hence the concept of gyroscopes "escaping" gravity. Also hence the idea of "resisting" change.
heikkiel 1 year ago
Maybe I missed it but how do you get propulsion out of such an apparatus? Until I get an answer of significant information, I would describe this computer animated object to be a complete waste of time. To be more positive, I hope I eat those words.
pgvx15 1 year ago
Ok very good cad drawings and I can see the egual forces applied in apposing direction when you have 2 at 90 degrees but not the third because its at 90 to one but not the other .
bscfrnd 1 year ago
Kind of looks like the stereotypical atomic model with the three gyros being the valence electrons.
ChrisGranat 1 year ago
will it blend? that is the question
jtfunkymojo 1 year ago 71
Go to approachconcepts "dot" com for real inertial propulsion.
johnroach1 1 year ago
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@tallblondesexy @tallblondesexy You are right, until the Release of the iPhone4, which DOES have this to work in conjunction with the accelerometer and magnetic compass making it more accurate, just go and look for yourself, WAY more accurate at making a 3D map of the phones movement in space pin-point accurate even long after the GPS signal is lost., Beat that D R O I D
FUNNUMS 1 year ago
@tallblondesexy You are right, until the Release of the iPhone4, which DOES have this to work in conjunction with the accelerometer and magnetic compass making it more accurate, just go and look for yourself, WAY more accurate at making a 3D map of the phones movement in space pin-point accurate even long after the GPS signal is lost., Beat that D R O I D
FUNNUMS 1 year ago
Why such expensive materials for counter weights. Were they just an example or are they in contact with anything? I'm just trying to get my head around how it works
Shawkins49 1 year ago
Thats a cool design. This ball would be very hard to rotate in any direction. Unfortunately thats all it would do.
ronmann606 1 year ago 2
@ronmann606 thats a very good point, and that is exactly what is intended. now imagine that ball or mechanism secured or bolted to a ship. that would make that ship a really stable one on rough seas. feel me?
sanjieev 1 year ago
@sanjieev I thought of that as an invention a long time ago so I googled it and it already exists. Although not with this design, but a gyroscope to stabilize a ship.
ronmann606 1 year ago
Please tell me this is a troll.
LehdaRi 1 year ago
Three rings of equivalent inertia rotating about a fixed point- Sounds like the gyroscopes used to balance EVERY instrument in space
The gyroscopic effects of rings is the same centered around a common point or not. If they are all connected in a closed- feedback loop, they can be mounted in any orientation respecting the CG of the "vehicle" see Reaction Wheel As for "propulsion", not happening by a long shot. 3d gyros are very difficult to move. This is truly an ANTI-propulsion device.
J1nglz 1 year ago
what is this supposed to do?
Fusurugi 1 year ago
so how the fuck does it work?????
Shinkajo 1 year ago
Can you do barell roll with it?
gosucoaching 1 year ago
I think this guy just got fed up with nothing to render on his nice new high dynamic range 3d package, why do all basically useless invention inventors talk at great length about trivial things such as the metal density and the bearing position and the brush less motor design, the sad thing is if the designer had given all 3 axis freedom to move he would have made a nice inertial guidance unit, all that been made in reality is a big gyroscope that will cancel itself out and do... nothing. :(
foxabilo 1 year ago
@foxabilo because no one actually knows the blueprints of things so the fact that this guy goes into depth shows he knows what hes talkin about for ex everyone knows how to use a computer but if it breaks how do u fix it call someone i pressume for the average person but if you you actually know the product then you just saved yourself 2 3 hundred bucks it iterally pays to know haha
N1mfman 1 year ago
So when can I buy my flying car?
mikegLXIVMM 1 year ago
@mikegLXIVMM you cant they wont sell us their ufo's !! lol
MrKlyber 1 year ago
Ok so it's been 3 years now do you have a prototype yet?
randomsrvapps 1 year ago
it has to be negitively charged for it to work. but you might have somthing! good work keep it up!
mrgwaltney 1 year ago
This guy is dumb; vector analysis can solve anything.
Cardgames4children 1 year ago
how can you get a patent for an idea.
aztrucker22 1 year ago
build and test it, and it flies, I'll believe you :D
spencertron88 1 year ago
I don't understand it all, but it seems pretty cool.
jptravers 1 year ago
This device is the same thing with the one in the movie "Contact". Judie Foster was in that movie and she was going through a worm hole created by this device.
Shape is the same with the one in the movie !
CydonianTR 1 year ago
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Congratulations on a remarkable demonstration of an almost two hundred year old concept... the gyroscope! Though the 3D modeling is quite effective, the title of the video is misleading, as there is no "propulsive" output in this closed inertial system. As clever as the use of different materials to maintain equal angular momentum at constant speed may be (which may be unique enough to be patentable) there is no way to translate this gyrostat into any sort of propulsion.
Davroz451 1 year ago
Congratulations on a remarkable demonstration of an almost two hundred year old concept... the gyroscope! Though the 3D modeling is quite effective, the title of the video is misleading, as there is no "propulsive" output in this closed inertial system.  As clever as the use of different materials to maintain equal angular momentum at constant speed may be (which may be unique enough to be patentable) there is no way to translate this gyrostat into any sort of propulsion.
Davroz451 1 year ago
To all the idiots on here, read the Bible, Ezekial (God was on a chariot of wheels within wheels) and understand that this concept was introduced to man many years ago. Those who read the past do not make the same mistakes, they learn from it.
I am working on a similiar concept however I am not using electrical Propulsion. Try reading works by Tesla for a hint if your curious.
Hetman1974 1 year ago
Fuck you, build it and see that it doesn't work.
onlyontuesdays99 1 year ago
"...it takes a trajectory of it's own following the path of least resistance"
So it will uncontrollably fly to a random location in the universe where angular momentum is minimal relative to it? Not buying it.
Cant this design be put in a simulated environment (computer) first? It will at least remove the errors that will come out in manufacturing. ie. not being able to machine the thing accurately and having the imperfections throwing off any acutal and meaningful measurements. Cheaper too!
cheapcutsofmeat 1 year ago
I'm sorry....What? I am impressed with this, unfortunately the narrator did not tell us what this thing can be used for if it even works. It would have been nice if he had showed us a working model doing whatever it is supposed to do. I think you got something there though, I just don't know what it is. Keep up the good work.
cuervo1957 1 year ago
Now just add Mercury in the middle and we have ourselves a UFO.
EDRCASTELLANO 1 year ago
It's just a gyroscope!!! Beats me why you've a patent on it!?!?
bubetlog 1 year ago
Ganidllc - such a beautiful concept you've invented.
@ Dorbie and Phillidapill85 - you seem to be the most rated posters here, yet disturbingly, you refer to his work as 'Anti-Gravity'. Not once during this demonstration did he mention anti-gravity, nor does he use such a phrase in the title.
Ridicule by negative association, I think it's called. What's described here, is the alignment of angular momentum in one direction, to give directed and positive force.
I admire your work, Ganidllc
rdcfrdcf 1 year ago
@rdcfrdcf I think Dorbie make more research then you by simply looking a Ganidllc other video IAfnK7-4Mpc where you can clearly see that there are working on a 'Anti-Gravity' device! Quote from the video at 0:33 "yo your getting a little lift".
JeromeDemers 1 year ago
Dorbie is full of it.
Great design, man, you may also want to look up Eric Laithwaite:) the gyroscope king in his day, inventor of the Maglev train....which works, dorbie, just go to Tokyo.
Angular momentum & inertia may be seen as 2 separate properties of mass, allowing for a net force, conservation laws notwithstanding......
stawmy 1 year ago
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stawmy 1 year ago
i think he watched the movie contact.
zumerian 1 year ago
What CAD software are you usingï