Re: Re: Re: The magnet motor challenge: PART 1

[100roberthenry]

i have made a kids toy but could be used for free energy scaled up, i guess...ive had it running for over three weeks now in my garage...just to test it...why is everyone arguing instead of actually doing something!!!!!!.......wtf.

[BRAIDERMAN]

Oh Oh ! At 2.28 comes that phrase again 'magnetic energy'. I thought 'desertphile' & I had cured you finally of this way of thinking. You should restate the phrase as 'potential energy in a magnetic field' or 'potential energy of a magnetic field'.

[BRAIDERMAN]

Look this video is a complete waste of time ! So far you have spent over a minute talking about what a hypothetical magnetic monopole would do in a magnetic field. Now tell us viewers that a magnetic monopole does not exist, and is a hypothetical abstractiojn in your own mind !

[ChrisThePrick]

So the Internet is so wonderfull for getting the information you want to prove a point. No woinder we all love it. So can I get my wify to get free internet.

So what are your selling?

[supersandor]

I'm selling buttkicks. Only 50 cents each, or 5 dollars for a dozen swift kicks in the butt. All you have to do is show up at my door, open up your wallet, and bend over. Such a deal!

[X00000013]

@ Desertphile, my advice to you is to back off gracefully. walk away with your pants up and keep your crowd.

[Desertphile]

I did not "try" to debunk the video: I *DID* debunk it.

[supersandor]

You tried and you failed. I'm sure dezzielightbulb thinks he successfully debunked the 1st law of thermo. The only difference between you 2 is that he failed to debunk something that's probably correct, while you failed to debunk something incorrect, i.e. your task was possible, and dare I say it, EASY, but you botched it all the same. I say it again, half the NRG contained in electromagnetic radiation is in fact stored in its magnetic field. BTW, signal processing was the other topic I passed.

[kilroy1964]

I hope you understand that my original oversimplified comment (that spurred our conversation) was referring to the methods proposed for magnetic motors. I was indeed ignoring the minute amount of energy in a permanent magnet's field, since no attempt was made to utilize it, and it would be a very poor source of energy even if you did. (Replacing demagnetized magnets would probably take more energy than you'd get out of them in the first place).

[kilroy1964]

Well done supersandor! Five stars!

The only problem I see here is you haven't explained why the proposed magnetic motors won't work. The proponents may in fact see this as proof that their motors will work (as pseudo scientists tend to do), especially the silly guy wagering his motorbike.

(This is why I made an oversimplified statement intended for people with no background in physics.)

[supersandor]

Well, the intended topic of this video wasn't to denounce "magnetic motors" but to object to the way Desertphile did it, insisting that magnetic fields contain no energy. And can you believe, he responded to a comment of mine a week after I posted this video response STILL insisting magnetic fields contain no energy.

Who cares if the free-energy people see this as a proof of their beliefs? They're going to spend their time trying to make perpetual motion machines with or without imagined proof.